Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow with Kevin Bupp
Kevin Bupp
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This podcast focuses on commercial real estate investing for cash flow and generational wealth, moving beyond residential fix-and-flips. Host Kevin Bupp interviews industry experts on topics like multifamily apartments, syndication, and passive income. The show aims to help both new and experienced investors scale their real estate businesses.
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How to Lock in 99 Years of Cash Flow (Today) with Commercial Ground Leases | Ep. 997 20.07.2026 42minImagine owning a property with enormous upside, but one that’s operationally complex and requires hundreds of thousands or even millions in capital improvements. What do you do? Selling leaves value on the table. A joint venture dilutes control and introduces unnecessary risk. So what’s the alternative? One of commercial real estate’s most underutilized capital structures: the ground lease. Danielle Ash, partner and co-chair of the ground lease practice at Adler & Stachenfeld, has helped countless investors generate predictable cash flow, preserve long-term ownership, and even unlock trapped equity with this often-overlooked strategy. She unpacks the three main “buckets” of ground leases, along with the sale-leaseback option that allows owner-operators to create liquidity for other projects. Danielle also shares a real-world case study involving a New York City property with massive potential and a $200 million renovation, managed and paid for by the lessee. Whether the goal is to free up capital for future acquisitions or create a long-term passive income stream while benefitting from capital improvements, the ground lease is a powerful tool worth exploring. Insights from today’s episode: How to create long-term cash flow with commercial ground leases A real case study of a New York City ground lease deal involving a $200 million renovation (paid by the lessee!) The biggest risks to consider before entering into a ground lease agreement Why a ground lease is often a win-win for both owner and operator What lenders look for when underwriting ground lease tenants How owner-operators can create liquidity through sale-leasebacks
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How to Fund Your Next Commercial Real Estate Deal with USDA Financing | Ep. 996 13.07.2026 37minWhen investors hear the term USDA loan, they tend to picture small towns, farmland, and niche financing. In reality, they may be overlooking one of the best—and least understood—government-backed loan programs available for commercial real estate. In many cases, the USDA loan is an even better option than both the SBA loan and conventional financing. To explain why, we’re joined by Jordan Blanchard, commercial lending expert and co-founder of X-Caliber Rural Capital. With more than 30 years of banking and lending experience, Jordan has built a career out of helping investors unlock borrowing opportunities—like USDA financing—many don’t realize exist. Jordan unpacks the loan’s biggest advantages and trade-offs while dispelling the biggest misconceptions surrounding it. He also shares exactly what investors need to know before applying, as well as how to layer other financing options and tax credits into an efficient capital stack. There’s no sugarcoating it: USDA loans can be difficult to qualify for. But for investors needing large amounts of capital, flexible terms, and a lower-money-down alternative to conventional financing, the payoff is well worth it. Insights from today’s episode: USDA loans—how they work, who they’re for, and common misconceptions How to quickly determine if you’re eligible for a USDA loan USDA versus SBA versus conventional financing (pros and cons) The ideal capital “stack” for funding commercial real estate deals Inside the $185 million deal Jordan and his team recently closed The five most common reasons why operators default on commercial loans 00:00 Intro 03:05 USDA Lending 101 08:12 2 Common Misconceptions 11:52 Longer, More Flexible Terms 14:36 Creating Your Capital "Stack" 21:20 Who Is USDA-Eligible? 22:55 Biggest Investor Mistakes 32:08 5 Rapid-Fire Questions! 35:42 Connect with Jordan! — Connect with Jordan on LinkedIn X-Caliber Rural Capital Email Jordan at jordanb@xrcusda.com Recommended Resources: If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, click here for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial, tax, or legal advice. Consult with a qualified professional before making any investment decisions.
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She Oversees $150M Acquisitions: Here’s What “Smart” Operators Are Doing Today w/Hannah Hammond 06.07.2026 50minThe real estate investors who are thriving in today’s market are the ones who ignored the pressure to buy questionable deals during the boom years. While many operators fell for floating-rate debt, banked on unrealistic rent growth, and underwrote for best-case scenarios, a more “patient” group focused on the fundamentals. Hannah Hammond, founder and CEO of the capital advisory firm and commercial mortgage brokerage HB Capital, has a unique vantage point on this dynamic. Through thousands of relationships with operators and lenders nationwide, she sits at the intersection of capital markets and commercial real estate investing. Not to mention, Hannah has scaled her own multimillion-dollar residential real estate portfolio. But the principles that guide her investment decisions today were shaped by more than market cycles. Raised in a family that struggled financially, Hannah believed money was the key to peace, happiness, and opportunity. This was only partially true. What she discovered after quitting corporate America for entrepreneurship, starting multiple businesses, and achieving financial freedom was that real “wealth” had much more to do with a life rooted in flow, not force. In today’s conversation, she shares about the painful experiences that shaped her, lessons from failed partnerships, and why the “disciplined” investors from a few years ago are the ones capitalizing on opportunities emerging from market distress. Insights from today’s episode: Hannah’s personal journey from financial hardship to financial freedom Why Hannah quit her comfortable engineering career to go all-in on real estate Lessons learned from failed partnerships and risky private lending experiences How Hannah’s engineering background has influenced her underwriting and risk tolerance The three fatal mistakes that cause operators to go underwater on assets Why true wealth stems from being fully aligned with your values and purpose—not money How to craft a daily routine that allows you to live through flow, not force — Connect with Hannah on Instagram HB Capital Recommended Resources: If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, click here for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 From Scarcity to Abundance 04:09 Quitting Corporate at 21 06:15 Where Operators Are Winning 12:17 Inside the Phoenix Market 18:56 Taking "Calculated" Risks 21:59 Learning from Loss & Failure 25:44 Launching HB Capital 30:08 Attracting Top Talent 34:58 What Is Real "Wealth"? 41:18 Hannah's Daily Routine 45:43 The Next 5 Years 49:36 Connect with Hannah! Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial, tax, or legal advice. Consult with a qualified professional before making any investment decisions.
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He Left Goldman Sachs to Bring Residential Real Estate to “Normal” Investors | Ep. 994 29.06.2026 36minReal estate has arguably been the largest wealth generator in history, but for many years, most opportunities have been out of reach for those without large bank accounts. Alex Blackwood is on a mission to change that with fractional real estate. While working at Goldman Sachs’ private equity group and delivering 15%-20% annual returns to investors, he started dreaming of a company that would lower the barrier to entry and bring these opportunities down to the average person. In 2022, that dream became a reality when he launched Mogul, a real estate investing platform that allows users to buy fractional shares of residential properties in a matter of clicks. Think Airbnbs in vacation markets, quadplexes with long-term tenants, and even single-family homes that are rented by the room. With new offerings weekly, investment minimums of just $250, and all the benefits of direct ownership—but without any of the normal landlord responsibilities—everyday people can now buy affordable shares of rental properties in top markets across the U.S. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just beginning your journey, this conversation will challenge what you thought was possible with real estate investing and the resources required to build real, long-term wealth. Insights from today’s episode: Why Alex left Goldman Sachs to start a fractional real estate investing platform How to reap all the benefits of rental property ownership without being a landlord The Mogul “model” that delivers higher annual returns than many REITs Residential real estate opportunities with $250 investment minimums The high-ROI real estate markets Alex and his team are targeting across the Sun Belt — Connect with Alex on LinkedIn Mogul Recommended Resources: If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, click here for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 Intro 01:21 What Is the Mogul "Model"? 06:22 Managing the Properties 09:06 High-ROI Sun Belt Markets 16:03 Mogul Property Performance 21:50 Advantages Over REITs 26:28 Weathering the Airbnb "Storm" 34:03 Investing with $250! 35:26 Connect with Alex!
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Industrial Real Estate Did the Last Thing He Expected (And It Made Him Wealthy) | Ep. 993 22.06.2026 57minIndustrial real estate might look simple from the outside. You buy a large box, lease it out, and collect rent. But like with any asset, you can lose your shirt just as easily as you can make a fortune. Joel Friedland, founder of Brit Properties, understands this better than most. Two years ago, he and his team were bracing for another industry lull, largely driven by high interest rates and sluggish rent growth. In the industrial space, the opposite happened. As new construction came to a screeching halt in many of Joel’s markets, supply constraints drove rents higher, particularly for many of his class-B investments. But that’s just the most recent cycle. Joel’s thesis has been tested repeatedly throughout his 40-plus-year career, and he’s survived it all—not because he’s immune to failure, but because he stuck to fundamentals while the syndicators around him played with fire and got burned. His no-debt model has made raising capital significantly more challenging, but it’s also helped him weather storms that have wiped out riskier investments. Joel doesn’t use unrealistic pro forma to gain an edge. Instead, he focuses on mitigating risk, playing the long game, and hunting down off-market opportunities most operators don’t have the patience to pursue. It’s helped him win strong deals—and it could help you do the same. Insights from today’s episode: Why industrial real estate has outperformed other asset classes in many markets The three biggest red flags Joel avoids on industrial real estate deals The economic factors that caused industrial rents to double in the last four years Creating an edge in your market with off-market investing opportunities Why location and size matter more than the purchase price of industrial buildings The conservative approach to leverage that gives you more staying power — Hear Our Last Interview with Joel Connect with Joel on LinkedIn Brit Properties Recommended Resources: If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 Intro 02:00 What Happened to Industrial? 10:20 Creating an Edge 14:37 Joel's "Problem" Property 15:29 The 4 D's 27:46 Managing LP Expectations 35:39 The No-Debt Investing Model 50:48 Biggest Deal "Killers" 54:58 Connect with Joel!
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Pioneering a Prudent Path in Industrial Real Estate | [Replay Ep. 686 ] 22.06.2026 42minBefore you check out episode 993, get up to speed with Building a Resilient Industrial Portfolio: Lessons from Joel Friedland. In this episode, Joel Friedland, founder of Brit Properties and seasoned industrial real estate operator, shares his journey of transforming his investment philosophy after the lessons learned from the 2008 financial crisis. Discover how a focus on risk control, no debt strategy, and deep tenant relationships have shaped his resilient approach to real estate investing. Main topics - Key insights: Joel's early entrepreneurial start and entry into industrial real estate The lessons learned from the 2008 recession and their impact on his investment philosophy The shift from leveraging assets to pursuing low or no debt deals for stability How to identify and source industrial properties with strong tenant stickiness Strategies for deal structuring, including sale-leasebacks and niche tenant focus The importance of location, layout, and deal assumptions in industrial real estate Current market conditions and outlook for distressed assets and overbuilding risks Joel’s vision for the next three to five years, emphasizing stability and long-term value Hear Our Last Interview with Joel Connect with Joel on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-friedland) Brit Properties (https://www.britproperties.com/) Recommended Resources: If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com (http://investwithkb.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=rei4cf&utm_content=ep993) for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club (https://kevinbupp.com/join/) to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club (https://kevinbupp.com/join/)! Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 - Introduction to Joel Friedland and his investment philosophy 00:58 - Joel’s entrepreneurial beginnings and early real estate experience 01:44 - Lessons from the 1981 leasing market and mentorship influence 04:16 - Transition from brokering to property ownership and syndication 05:55 - Unpacking Joel's first industrial deal and key learnings 08:07 - The importance of property geometry and tenant needs in industrial 09:34 - Structuring early deals: legal and investor considerations 11:05 - Managing vacancy and lease strategy to attract user buyers 12:48 - Why the property was vacant and how tenants are typically found 14:19 - Impact of the 2008 recession and Joel’s personal and business recovery 16:38 - The shift to no-debt or low-leverage investing post-2008 17:35 - How Joel evaluates risk and manages investor expectations 20:06 - Market evolution and current overbuilding concerns 22:24 - Stress cracks in the real estate market and risk mitigation 24:39 - Market segments Joel is focusing on for stability 26:21 - Tenant-centric strategy and exit paths for industrial buildings 27:46 - Sale-leaseback opportunities and niche tenant strategies 30:22 - The ideal size and price points for industrial properties today 32:23 - Market catalysts that could challenge the industrial sector 34:58 - Overbuilt assets and overbuilding risks in large distribution centers 37:08 - Joel’s business outlook for the next three to five years 39:16 - Approach to deal sourcing and maintaining a conservative portfolio 41:53 - The importance of location, fundamental quality, and timing in industrial investing 42:22 - How to connect with Joel and stay updated on his ventures
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What $100M Institutional Investors Look for Before Cutting the Check | Ep. 992 15.06.2026 52minMany real estate operators assume institutional capital is simply retail capital at a larger scale: fewer investors, bigger checks. It’s not. What they’re missing is that institutional capital often requires you to build more infrastructure, create tighter procedures, and relinquish some control of the asset itself. The question is: Is the consolidation you get from institutional capital worth all the extra effort? If you ask John Azar, founder and CEO at Peak 15 Capital, it depends. For the operator who’s growing steadily, tackling smaller multifamily deals, and having no trouble sourcing capital from dozens and sometimes hundreds of limited partners (LPs), perhaps not. But for the investor who has the means, it can immediately level up their business. As a liquidity provider for real estate sponsors, John is helping unlock some of these institutional-level opportunities. He shares how to make the jump from retail capital, how to underwrite passive and active investing opportunities properly, and what LPs must do to avoid getting burned by bad operators in 2026 and beyond. Insights from today’s episode: The infrastructure operators must build out before delving into institutional capital Why institutional capital isn’t automatically a better option than retail capital John’s two biggest lessons learned across a multi-decade career in real estate Why the quality of the sponsor matters more than the quality of the deal itself What passive investors must do to avoid getting burned by bad sponsors — Connect with John on LinkedIn Peak 15 Capital Recommended Resources: If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, click here for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 Intro 01:47 Is Institutional Capital Better? 09:57 “Upgrading” Your Business 16:44 Preparing for Institutional Capital 24:09 Recent Syndication Challenges 35:26 What Is Peak 15 Capital? 45:27 How to (Properly) Vet Sponsors
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Top U.S. Universities Have a $1T Real Estate “Problem” (And He’s Solving It) 09.06.2026 35minMost investors chase opportunities in familiar asset classes like multifamily, self-storage, or mobile home parks, but today’s guest has carved out a narrow lane within the industry: university-aligned real estate investing. America’s top universities are facing a $1 trillion infrastructure problem over the next decade, and to continue attracting top talent, they need upgraded facilities and amenities. Josh Parker, founder, chairman, and CEO of Ancora, has built a business that collaborates with these anchor institutions to breathe new life into college towns throughout the U.S. By creating strong ties with premier universities and forming strategic partnerships to access resources beyond just capital, Josh and his team have been able to bring economic stability to several disjointed communities. This level of specialization has allowed him to stand out at a time when other investors are swimming upstream against cutthroat competition and deteriorating margins. Josh’s message isn’t for more investors to try their hand at complex urban redevelopment deals. Rather, it’s that there are just two ways to create an edge in today’s market: become the next Blackstone, or niche down and dig deep. Insights from today’s episode: Josh’s journey into university-aligned real estate redevelopment Solving the $1 trillion problem that universities are facing over the next decade The two ways real estate operators can create an edge in today’s market Partnering with anchor institutions to revitalize “disjointed” communities Leveraging tax credits and government programs to offset development costs — Connect with Josh on LinkedIn Ancora Recommended Resources: If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, click here for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 Intro 01:12 Strategic University Partnerships 05:31 Josh's "Lightbulb" Moment 09:43 The South Bend Project 13:22 The $1T Development "Gap" 19:04 Identifying Top Opportunities 23:40 Structuring the Capital Stack 30:04 Niching Down in Real Estate 34:18 Connect with Josh!
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Real Deals: The Biggest Mobile Home Community We’ve Ever Bought 01.06.2026 36minNo matter how much you underwrite, budget, plan, and strategize, nothing ever goes exactly to plan. On our biggest mobile home park investment yet (700+ lots), we thought we had accounted for every obstacle that could have been thrown our way—boy, were we wrong. But with the right team, tactics, and pivots, we turned what many would have given up on into a property with close to $3M in annual NOI—and even more room to grow. Welcome back to another case study episode, where I’m sharing real deals we’ve taken down at Sunrise Capital Investors, giving you an under-the-hood look at what went wrong, what went right, the real returns, and the money we spent. This time, we’re in Fort Wayne, Indiana, taking a look at Ridgebrook Hills mobile home park, a community of over 700 lots, hundreds of residents, and huge infrastructure. What was supposed to be a homerun from the start turned into a steady stream of challenges for multiple years, but ended up being a rock-solid property we’re proud to own with huge upside. I’m sharing all the challenges, budgets, and real return numbers in this episode so you can dodge some of the headwinds we hit along the journey. Insights from today’s episode: How we landed a massive mobile home park by being disciplined when others were on buying sprees The real NOI numbers from this hugely improved mobile home park investment The upside and value-add potential you can unlock with mismanaged mobile home parks The staffing disaster that almost brought this deal to a halt (on day three!) An expense many investors overlook (we did!) that can cost you six-figures per year The one thing that saved this deal (every investor or investment team needs this) — Check Out our Free Guide on Investing in Mobile Home Parks! Full Ridgebrook Hills MHP Case Study Real Deals: A $10M Win by Taking on This “Complex” Parking Garage Deal | Ep. 985 Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast.
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The “Captive Insurance” for Landlords That Pays You to Protect Your Property 25.05.2026 32minLandlord insurance has slowly become a major cost for many operators. After 2020, insurance prices began to rise rapidly, and making a claim became even harder when disaster struck. For many operators, it feels like throwing tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, into the furnace every year, for a benefit you’ll rarely use. And who stands to profit from it? Insurance companies. But an overlooked insurance structure is becoming increasingly common among operators, saving them 20% on their premium costs and sometimes even making them a profit on insuring their properties. Nicolas Lares, CEO of Insur3Tech, worked as an insurance agent for years before ever hearing of "captive insurance” or “risk pooling.” When the small businesses he was tasked with insuring were being priced out so badly they could barely operate, he began building alternative structures, all federally backstopped, but without the middlemen. Now, Nicolas’s clients are profiting from their insurance investment, getting premiums on average 20% lower, and getting claims paid out in a matter of days, not weeks. How would your NOI improve if one of your greatest costs became a profit driver? Insights from today’s episode: The “risk pooling” insurance model that drops your insurance cost significantly How to get paid to pay your premium (the insurance company actually pays Nicolas’s clients) Who can (and should) opt for "captive insurance” instead of the traditional route The real reason why your landlord insurance premium is so high (it’s making insurance companies billions) How do these alternative providers make money without baking in a profit margin? — Connect with Nicolas on LinkedIn Insur3Tech Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 Insurance Is Broken in 2026 03:40 They're Making Billions off of Us 06:19 Cutting Out the Middlemen 11:58 The Insurance "Pool" Structure 16:23 Getting Paid to Insure Your Property 19:33 Who Can (and Should) Do This? 26:28 How Do THESE Providers Make Money? 31:15 Work with Nicolas!
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Don’t Get Wiped Out: The Multifamily Investing Strategy That Beat 3 Downturns | Ep. 988 18.05.2026 38minWhat do the 2000 dot-com crash, the 2008 Great Financial Crisis, and the 2022 interest rate shock have in common? They wiped many multifamily operators out. Dwight Dunton survived all three. As founder and CEO of Bonaventure, Dwight and his team are responsible for $2.8 billion in assets under management (AUM). But Dwight didn’t start a fund, raise capital, and figure it out as he went. He learned to grow and protect his own money first. At just 25 years old, while his peers chased flashy internet stocks, Dwight acquired a 378-unit apartment community. He was stepping into a struggling asset that demanded sizable improvements and millions in repairs, but this experience provided a crash course in operations, value-add investing, and asset management. Dwight says to become an old, rich investor, you’ve got to 1. get old and 2. not get wiped out along the way. So, he focuses on “asymmetric” investing opportunities that have capped downside but plenty of upside for good operators. Then, he further de-risks these assets by insourcing the things most operators would outsource. In today’s conversation, we discuss all of this—the power of vertical integration, protecting assets and capital through downturns, and why long-term, buy-and-hold investing remains the surest path to generational wealth. Insights from today’s episode: - How Dwight protects his assets and capital with “anti-wipeout” investing - The keys to building a business that can survive any “Black Swan” event - Acquiring and managing a 378-unit apartment community at 25 years old - How to dramatically improve revenue with vertical integration - Why supply constraint, not job growth, is the surprising main driver of multifamily success — Connect with Dwight on LinkedIn Bonaventure Internet Subway Vest Residential Recommended Resources: - Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! - If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. - Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 Intro 00:45 Buying 370+ Units at 25 07:09 Surviving (& Winning) in 2008 11:17 Don't Get Wiped Out! 18:12 Buy-and-Hold (Forever!) 23:20 Vertical Integration 101 32:40 What's Next for Dwight? 37:27 Connect with Dwight!
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Private Air Travel Is Coming: But the “Smart” Investing Play Is on the Ground | Ep. 987 11.05.2026 38minWhen new technology emerges, the biggest winners aren’t the headline watchers or the reluctant investors. Rather, it’s those who already control the infrastructure when that technology becomes mainstream who profit most. The next major infrastructure wave? Advanced air mobility. It’s not a matter of if, but when private aircraft become the next popular mode of travel in the United States, and Lisa Wright, founder of Landings, will be waiting at the runway when it arrives. With decades of experience as a commercial real estate architect, Lisa is asking the question most people aren’t thinking of just yet: where will these aircraft actually land? As an early adopter, Lisa’s company is currently in a race to develop over 2,000 vertiport sites over the next five years. With little more than angel investments and bootstrapping, her team has already secured two-year land lease options throughout many rural communities where these amenities are likely to appear. In today’s conversation, Lisa shares the strategy that has helped her stay fluid without major capital raises, her long-term vision for building out a coast-to-coast vertiport network, and the revenue-share model that gives landowners an almost irresistible investing opportunity. Insights from today’s episode: Lisa’s five-year plan for developing a 2,000-site vertiport network How early adopters of advanced air mobility stand to profit in the years ahead Why private aviation is poised to become the new frontier of transportation The revenue-share model that gives rural landowners unique investing opportunities Creating multiple revenue streams with low-cost, low-maintenance landing sites — Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn Landings Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 The Spark for Landings 00:50 Intro 02:23 Why Private Aviation? 07:36 eVTOL Is Already Here 12:21 "Viable" Vertiport Sites 19:15 Costs & Revenue Share 25:19 How Does It Make Money? 27:09 Lisa's 5-Year Plan 30:58 Funding Vertiport Development 33:54 Connect with Lisa!
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From Zero to 1,200+ Multifamily Units in 7 Years (Replacing His W2 Income) | Ep. 986 04.05.2026 41minMany investors talk about financial freedom, but few ever scale to the point where they can leave their W-2 jobs and live off the cash flow from their real estate investments. Jason Kenney did it. Completely burned out after two decades of climbing the corporate ladder, Jason and his wife started allocating their W-2 income to real estate assets with the goal of buying back their time. Within only a few years, Jason was able to quit his W-2 job and replace his income with cash-flowing investments. Now, as the founder of Novo Capital Management, Jason focuses exclusively on multifamily apartments, with a 1,200-unit portfolio spanning several markets. Having been on both sides of syndications, Jason offers a rare, dual perspective on operations and the process of vetting sponsors. Using his “SMART” framework, investors can do their own due diligence on general partners, syndication deals, and even active investments. In this conversation, Jason shares about some of his recent acquisitions, candid lessons from deals that didn’t pencil, and what investors need to do to truly stand out in today’s high-interest-rate environment. Insights from today’s episode: How Jason traded corporate burnout for financial freedom with real estate The “SMART” investor’s framework for analyzing real estate deals How to properly vet sponsors and syndication deals before committing capital Why so many secondary markets are ripe with multifamily investing opportunities How operators can stand out in today’s high-interest-rate environment — Novo Capital Management Connect with Jason on LinkedIn Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 0:00 Buying Back Your Time 6:29 The "SMART" Framework 15:19 Re-rank Your Markets 25:21 When to Walk Away 30:10 Value-Add Apartment Deals 33:15 Pivoting to Multifamily 35:19 Best Opportunities in 2026 40:49 Connect with Jason!
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Real Deals: A $10M Win by Taking on This “Complex” Parking Garage Deal 27.04.2026 20minThis single property created more than $10M in value, but it was the most complex real estate deal we’ve ever done. We had to put a million dollars at risk to even start the transaction—and it was non-refundable. Multiple buyers, a cross-collateralized property in receivership with a parking lot, a hotel, and office space. This wasn’t going to be easy, but it definitely paid off. Today, I’m peeling back the curtain, showing you the full numbers and story of this commercial real estate case study that proves if you put in the work, the reward is there—and it could be an eight-figure payoff. I’ll walk through how we got this off-market, underpriced property sent to us, how we found buyers to take over the parts of the property we had no interest in, the substantial non-refundable earnest money we had to put down to close, and the hiccup at the eleventh hour that almost completely killed the deal. Plus, I’ll share exactly what we did to take this parking garage investment from $31M to $35M to now being worth north of $40 million. This is how we did it. Insights from today’s episode: A full real estate case study of the most complex deal we’ve ever done Why I put a seven-figure non-refundable deposit on a property that had low chances of closing How we immediately walked into $4 million of equity from purchase The value-add improvements we made to grow this property’s value by over $10 million The #1 reason why a broker sent this off-market deal to us before anyone else How we subdivided and sold parts of the property while we were buying it Our exact loan structure (LTV, debt, terms) to reduce risk — Investing in Parking Lots: Real Estate’s #1 Overlooked Opportunity | Ep. 977 Charlotte Parking Facility Case Study Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cashflow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 0:00 Intro 1:38 Off-Market Broker Deal 4:11 You CANNOT Beat This! 5:20 This Could Have Killed It 11:23 $4M in Instant Equity 12:36 Adding Value Immediately
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Developing a $140M “Passion Project” to Turn Dirt Into a Community Dream 20.04.2026 45minFor many real estate investors, development is the next level of property investing. Instead of renovating, you’re building from the ground up, turning dirt into something hundreds or even thousands of people will use daily. But how do you start, get in good graces with the local government, and build projects you can be truly proud of? Kristi Kandel went from zero development experience to running her own office in a year, with undeniable success. She built 30 Family Dollar locations in one of the hardest markets in America—California. But that’s not all—she even took on extraordinarily complex projects like building hydrogen fueling stations, something most developers wouldn’t even dare to entertain. She’s done some of the hardest development jobs and is sharing exactly how you can get your foot in the door, from planning what to build based on your market, to getting the local government on your side, who should be developing, and the mistake that almost cost her millions. Plus, Kristi shares details on the $140M passion project she’s building with public-private partnerships—the kind of legacy project every investor dreams of. Insights from today’s episode: How to get into real estate development, even if you have no experience The first thing to check before you plan on developing any piece of land The one person you must get in contact with to get the city’s approval One big utility mistake that could have cost Kristi’s team millions of dollars How locals can develop in their own communities and stop outside builders from taking over The one project Kristi says was impossible to finish—and swears she'll never do again — Connect with Kristi on LinkedIn Follow Kristi on Instagram Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cash Flow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 WHAT to Build 05:46 New City? Find This Person 08:05 Where Deals Get "Stuck" 14:14 Starting in THE Hardest Market 18:39 What She's Building Now 21:17 Developing YOUR Community 29:13 $140M Passion Project 35:40 This Mistake Could Have Cost Millions 43:43 Connect with Kristi!
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Senior Housing’s Inflection Point: Demand is Quickly Outpacing Supply 13.04.2026 50minSenior living investments are at a critical inflection point. Demand is sharply rising as the Baby Boomer generation ages, but supply hasn’t kept pace. The “silver tsunami” is starting to send waves our way, and skilled operators are already taking advantage. Value-add senior living investments, like the example shared by today’s guest, are seeing values multiply—and diligent operators have huge opportunities not only to make sizable returns but also to provide better lives for their residents. Lynn Jerath, founder of Citrine Investment Group, has a battle-tested background in REIT investing, hospitality, multifamily, and real estate private equity. She’s pivoted to senior housing investments not only because of the profit potential, but also because of the purpose behind them. And she’s not just buying managerially distressed assets, flipping the operator, and walking away. Lynn’s team is delivering significant value add and, as a result, increasing the facility's value by 2x–3x on their total investment. She says demand is still growing while supply is constrained—and this trend could accelerate. Between independent living, assisted living, memory care, and active adult investments, Lynn proves (with real numbers) that this space is far from saturated as the silver surge begins to wash ashore. Insights from today’s episode: Real return numbers on senior living investments as Lynn operates heavy value-add improvements Why senior living has a long road ahead as demand grows and supply stagnates Thinking of going from multifamily to senior living? Lynn has crucial advice to share The #1 way to get more senior living residents in your community Most popular niches of senior living (and their current cap rates) Lynn’s exact buy box for senior living investments—what has to work for her to buy — Connect with Lynn on LinkedIn Citrine Investment Group Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cashflow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 00:00 Intro 01:54 Senior Living is a Different Ballgame 07:18 Undersupplied with Growing Demand? 13:59 Why Senior Living CAN'T Be Replaced 21:15 Big Players Are Getting In 24:52 Value-Add Senior Living in 2026 28:12 Case Study (2Xing Value) 31:07 How to Value-Add Senior Living 35:27 Getting New Residents 37:44 Most Popular Niches (and Cap Rates) 42:05 Lynn's Buy Box 47:55 It's About More Than Money 49:39 Connect with Lynn!
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Operational “Landmines” That Will Wipe Out Your Mobile Home Park Cash Flow 06.04.2026 49minMobile home parks are often labeled “recession-proof,” and it’s largely true. They were some of the most resilient assets throughout the Great Financial Crisis, when single-family homes, multifamily apartments, and most other asset classes saw deep distress. But what is it about mobile home parks that make them seemingly “safe,” and is there a catch? Jack Martin, co-founder and CIO of 52TEN, was investing in real estate before, during, and after the 2008 housing market crash, and the fallout caused him to reconsider where he wanted to invest for the next 10, 20, or 30 years. In this episode, he shares exactly why he pivoted from multifamily apartments to “safer,” more recession-resistant mobile home parks, and delivers crucial advice on gauging market demand, “conservative” underwriting, and scaling your investments in today’s market. The truth is, mobile home parks are strong investments, but only with good operators. Those who understand the asset, market, and tenant dynamics usually stay profitable—even in a worst-case scenario. But those who underwrite mobile home parks just like they would any other real estate asset are in for a rude awakening. Insights from today’s episode: Why Jack exited multifamily apartments for mobile home parks after 2008 Why mobile home parks are more “recession-proof” than other asset classes Practical ways to gauge mobile home park demand in a new market The three biggest challenges mobile home park investors face in 2026 Why “cheaper” is rarely better when buying a mobile home park — Connect with Jack on LinkedIn 52TEN Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cashflow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 0:00 Intro 0:58 Jack's Investing Journey 3:52 The Fallout of 2008 10:17 Pivoting to Mobile Home Parks 18:14 "Recession-Proof" Assets 28:10 Gauging Market Demand 36:19 "Painful" Lessons Learned 48:33 Connect with Jack!
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The Passive Investing “Traps” Most Limited Partners Never See Coming 30.03.2026 41minOver the last few years, many real estate investors learned a painful lesson: a polished pitch deck and impressive projections don’t guarantee a “safe” investment. Deals went south, capital got stuck, and naturally, passive investors are now far more cautious about where they deploy their hard-earned money. Sarah Miskelly, founder of Hylee Capital, has witnessed this shift firsthand. Today, smart limited partners are no longer chasing flashy pro formas. They want risk-mitigated, institutional-grade opportunities that once felt out of reach for everyday investors. At the same time, there’s been a growing shift toward debt investments, many of which Sarah believes aren’t nearly as safe as they appear. Sarah shares how she evaluates sponsors and syndication deals through both the “hard” and “soft” sides of due diligence, along with the red flags she watches for—mistakes that have burned countless LPs in the past. She also breaks down the return metrics that matter most to hands-off investors and highlights the most compelling opportunities emerging in today’s housing market—from multifamily apartments to mobile home parks. Insights from today’s episode: Sarah’s step-by-step process for vetting operators and syndication deals The return metrics that matter most to passive investors in today’s market Why many LPs are moving toward debt investments (that aren’t as safe as advertised) How to build a resilient portfolio by blending high-IRR deals and steady cash flow How building multiple cash flow streams can lead to greater lifestyle freedom — Connect with Sarah on LinkedIn Hylee Capital Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cashflow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. 0:00 Intro 0:49 Total Lifestyle Freedom 9:02 Better "Hands-Off" Investments 10:54 Operator Red Flags 18:54 What Has Changed? 22:39 LPs Are Being "Cautious" 28:44 Playing "the Long Game" 37:00 2026's Biggest Opportunities 40:49 Connect with Sarah!
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Value-Add Multifamily: Risks, Opportunities, & “Deep” Upgrades That Drive NOI 23.03.2026 33minIn multifamily real estate, it used to be that “a rising tide lifts all boats.” In this market cycle, that’s no longer the case. Apartment deals aren’t profitable by luck. They’re run by disciplined operators who understand the difference between surface-level updates and deep, value-add strategies that drive tenant retention, rent growth, and higher returns. After starting his career as an architect, Mark Shuler transitioned into ownership and development, and today, he leads a private equity firm that delivers sizable returns to passive investors through value-add multifamily properties. Mark has overseen thousands of apartment units and over $600 million in assets under management, so he understands, better than most, what actually moves the needle on NOI. When interest rates rose and cap rates followed suit, multifamily valuations tanked. Will there be more turbulence in 2026, or should operators and limited partners prepare for some of the best buying opportunities we’ve seen in years? Mark provides insights on the industry “reset” that’s taking shape, addresses the red flags that too many investors overlook when analyzing deals, and even shares about his latest real estate-adjacent venture—a pure cash flow play that complements his long-term multifamily investments. Insights from today’s episode: High-ROI property upgrades that actually move the needle for multifamily investors Common deal “killers” that operators often miss during due diligence The biggest risks and opportunities that multifamily investors face in 2026 Why strong multifamily operators are thriving amid an industry “reset” Regulatory pressure that is forcing operators out of certain markets Lessons from managing thousands of apartments and $600 million in assets — Connect with Mark on LinkedIn Email Mark at: mark@shulerarchitecture.com or mark@sgreinvestments.com Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cashflow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast. Chapters: 0:00 Intro 0:56 What Is "Value-Add" in 2026? 6:46 Multifamily Red Flags & "Dealbreakers" 13:14 Regulatory Pressure on Operators 17:46 2026 Opportunities & Risks 24:27 Mark's Latest Business Venture 32:42 Connect with Mark!
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$250,000/Year Cash Flow from One “Small” Commercial Property | Ep. 979 16.03.2026 48minImagine replacing an entire rental property portfolio with just one “small” commercial asset. You can either manage 80+ rental units or just one building, with a fraction of the tenants, turnover, and headaches. Saul Zenkevicius did just that. He netted $250,000/year in cash flow from one small bay industrial real estate deal which quickly replaced the entire cash flow from a rental property portfolio he’d built over the years. These small bay properties still have strong demand in most markets, with limited supply, and durable cash flow potential that institutional investors are finally starting to recognize. Saul made the leap and is now investing heavily in the small bay sector. He shares his exact buy box, the demographic signs of a strong market, and the biggest mistakes beginners can make in small bay warehouses. Saul's contrarian thinking doesn't stop at small bay. We get his profitable take on why malls may be the most underrated investing play around. He’s got real numbers to back it up—malls aren’t dead; instead, they can be converted into cash flow machines. Insights from today’s episode: How Saul replaced an 86-unit rental portfolio with just one small bay investment Still undersupplied? Why small bay may see strong demand for decades to come Saul’s point-by-point buy box of what to look for when buying a small bay warehouse Mall conversions: Saul’s contrarian investment strategy that’s seeing huge payoffs The market conditions that destroy small bay cash flow—and Saul's exact process for avoiding them — Connect with Saul on LinkedIn Sign Up for Saul’s Newsletter Recommended Resources: Accredited Investors, you’re invited to Join the Cashflow Investor Club to learn how you can partner with Kevin Bupp on current and upcoming opportunities to create passive cash flow and build wealth. Join the Club! If you’re a high-net-worth investor with capital to deploy in the next 12 months and you want to build passive income and wealth with a trusted partner, go to InvestWithKB.com for opportunities to invest in real estate projects alongside Kevin and his team. Looking for the ultimate guide to passive investing? Grab a copy of my latest book, The Cash Flow Investor at KevinBupp.com. Tap into a wealth of free information on Commercial Real Estate Investing by listening to past podcast episodes at KevinBupp.com/Podcast.
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