The Merge

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• E59 – Business Breakdown: Anduril 04.06.2026 42min

  Anduril Industries raised $5 billion at a reported $61billion valuation—putting a nine-year-old defense tech company in the same conversation as legacy primes that have been building weapons for generations.How did they do it, what is their strategy, and does the math make sense?In this episode, Mike and Matthew take a deep dive inside Anduril’s products, revenue, contracts, and business strategy. They break down the Series H raise, the company’s rapid valuation climb, the difference between contract ceilings and booked revenue, and why visible federal obligations onlytell part of the story.They also examine Anduril’s expanding product portfolio, anddebate the core question behind the company’s $61B price tag: Is Anduril the future of defense industrial production, or is the market pricing in near-flawless execution?Topics include:- Anduril’s $5B Series H and $61B valuation- The gap between reported revenue and visible federalobligations- Why Special Operations and the Border Patrol matter morethan most people realize- The $20B Army enterprise vehicle—and why it is a rail, not acheck- Barracuda, Fury, Arsenal-1, and hyperscale defensemanufacturing- How Anduril compares to Lockheed, Northrop, GeneralDynamics, RTX, and Palantir- The bull and bear case for Anduril’s long-term strategy- What to watch next: IPO timing, task orders, deliveries, andrevenue growth- The real bet: for Anduril to justify today’s valuation, ithas to grow from a $2B revenue company into a $20B+ revenue company very quickly.SUBSCRIBE FOR FREE to get more intel on defense tech, news, and happenings. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠! ----Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ----00:0000:34 intro01:20 Premium newsletter!02:10 Anduril intro02:26 Matthrew intro04:32 Anduril 10106:52 Anduril's fundraising07:25 the next 24 months07:38 revenue breakdown08:23 happenings between the raises14:10 last 5 years of sales15:47 counter-UAS18:22 Steve vs Steve approach19:14 C-UAS durability?21:04 Altius21:52 comparing valuations23:21 sources of new revenue23:33 Barracuda24:08 CCA program27:28 Lattice28:20 Eagle Eye31:18 Golden Dome35:08 Anduril's strategy38:53 next acquisition?41:25 wrap-up
• E58 – Dcode the Pentagon Buying Machine 26.04.2026 51min

  What does it actually take to get new technology into thehands of warfighters—and why is it still so hard?In this episode, Mike sits down with the co-founders ofDcode, Meagan Metzger and Meg Vorland, to unpack the reality behind defense innovation, acquisition reform, and the flow of capital into the sector. Dcode operates at a unique intersection—working withstartups, investors, and the Pentagon—giving them a rare, inside-out view of how the system really works.We break down why most acquisition reform efforts fallshort, whether recent policy changes are hitting the right targets, and what conventional wisdom in defense innovation is simply wrong.If you’re trying to understand how defense actually getsbuilt, funded, and fielded—this is the inside baseball.Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠! • Dcode website• Dcode Capital portfolio• Dcode LinkedIn• Meagan Metzger LinkedIn• Meg Vorland LinkedIn• CTRL + ALT + DEFENSE podcast---- Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0000:44 intro01:19 Dcode origin story04:55 founders, funders, and fighters09:27 acquisition reform12:32 risk vs the no-monster15:58 buying speed vs rigor16:44 contracting officer shortage17:55 bigger worse contracts21:04 defense catalyst21:57 leadership and training23:05 the bigger picture25:33 budget line-item consolidation28:16 pass a budget30:41 investing in companies36:05 misconceptions38:28 colors and fallout39:33 conflicts of interest41:03 RAIC41:30 30042:12 pilot programs46:42 fielding47:29 magic wand48:49 crystal ball50:19 outro
• E57 – The War on Bad Software (Defense Unicorns) 28.03.2026 42min

  All modern hardware depends on good software, but in theU.S. military, most software sucks.Rob Slaughter, co-founder and CEO of Defense Unicorns, joins the show to unpack why this is happening and what they are doing to fix it.We dive into the rise of “software as a weapon system,” therole of open-source software in national security, and how Defense Unicorns is building an air-gapped, platform-agnostic software delivery model designed for real-world military environments. This episode is a must for anyone in defense. You’ll learn a ton about software—we guarantee! Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠! • Rob LinkedIn• Defense Unicorns website• Defense Unicorns LinkedIn• Defense Unicorns X• Defense Unicorns YouTube---- Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0000:43 intro01:09 Defense Unicorns name04:28 origin story06:38 the 3 I's08:46 software sustainment burden09:13 wrong incentive structure12:31 software as a weapon system14:39 rising tech debt16:18 open source18:46 open is more secure?20:43 SBOM22:24 solutions23:05 fighter jet software updates24:43 submarine software25:52 UDS27:05 disconnected software28:34 Chinese software underneath US systems30:48 competition33:43 crystal ball35:15 $136M fundraise37:56 magic wand - fixed price contracts40:14 McDonald's ice cream #AI #Technology #Tech #Innovation #Cybersecurity #youtube #Military #DefenseTech #MilitaryTech #Startup #Software #Business
• E56 – The Fury Origin Story 01.02.2026 53min

  This is the untold origin story of the Fury CollaborativeCombat Aircraft (CCA), as told by those who lived it.Scott Bledsoe and Joe Murray join Mike to talk about Fury’s very beginning—way back to 2016.Now known as Anduril’s YFQ-44, Fury originated as an SBIR project from Blue Force Technologies and may go on to become a poster child of SBIR success stories. But it’s not all good news.The experience—and the decision to sell to Anduril—motivated Scott and Joe to start a new type of investment fund called the DoD Accelerator. DoD Accelerator bridges the gap between venture capital and private equity, addressing the ‘funding valley of death’ they faced and the factors that led to the decision to sell their company—and Fury—to Anduril.This is packed with never-before-revealed details and serves as the backdrop for a broader conversation about the realities of having a company in the defense industry. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠! • Scott Bledsoe • Joe Murray• WOTR High-Low Mix Part I• WOTR High-Low Mix Part II---- Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0000:26 intro01:50 Scott and Joe07:21 DoD Accelerator09:51 Fury origin story11:24 SBIR16:28 the high-low mix17:11 writing to understand18:29 F-11719:04 no part 319:41 red air use-case24:29 Bandit and ADAIR-UX25:10 funding and the valley of death28:04 the capital void31:11 programs consolidate32:28 Anduril acquisition33:37 the small business divide34:14 DoD Accelerator fit36:12 Baxter Aerospace example41:19 the cheat code44:26 crystal ball45:17 the prime cartel?46:32 magic wand - IR&D policy change49:10 policy hurts start-ups52:51 DoD Accelerator focus areas
• E55 – Christine Fox: the REAL Charlie 18.01.2026 41min

  There is a strange set of organizations that live betweenindustry and government called Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs) and University Affiliated Research Centers (UARCs).They play an important—but largely misunderstood role—in national security.What better way to understand it all than with a guest who’sone of the most famous pop-culture examples: Christine Fox.She was the real person who was portrayed as ‘Charlie’,Maverick’s civilian love interest, in Top Gun! She spent 40+ years working as an analyst in UARCs and a civilian leader at the Pentagon, culminating in serving as the acting Deputy Secretary of Defense. Today, she continues to serve as a Fellow at Johns HopkinsUniversity’s Applied Physics Lab (JHU APL), which is the nation’s largest UARC.This interview has a ton of inside baseball that you won’t find anywhere else! Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!  ----Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ----00:00 intro00:35 Top Gun01:33 Christine Fox02:53 origin of FFRFC & UARC05:36 access to classified info08:30 tech transfer11:33 independence14:42 threat analysis story16:35 misunderstandings20:29 software and competition24:32 fix the gray27:11 what if they disappear?27:39 Navy Red Sea support28:29 hypersonics30:08 Golden Dome31:01 whole of nation approach38:20 2026 resolutions39:42 closing remarks
• E54 – Pryzm: AI to understand the Pentagon 14.12.2025 55min

  Mike sits down with Matt Hawkins and Nick LaRovere,co-founders of Pryzm.Pryzm is building an Operating System for defense innovation—software that uses AI to generate capture intel to make sense of Pentagon budgets, Congressional legislation, program offices, and much more. It’s AI to understand the Pentagon.They help connect the dots between missions, markets, andpeople to power the future of national security. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!• Pryzm homepage https://pryzm.io   ---- Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0001:43 intro02:30 origin story05:57 disclosure07:07 2 PMs08:47 Air Force tanker program21:47 Golden Dome28:12 sales vs business development33:04 proactive vs reactive34:59 intel to flip the script37:56 a bubble?41:18 flat toplines43:05 requested vs executed46:38 fundraise48:27 DIU project50:58 2026 outlook55:29 outro
• E53 – The Fighter Pilot Spirit 10.12.2025 58min

  Chris "Snooze" Kurek, Rob “Trip” Raymond, and Erik“EZ” Brine chat with Mike “Pako” Benitez on all things fighter pilot culture—toast, roast, and lore.Better known as Dos Gringos, Snooze, and Trip put out 4albums of fighter pilot songs that are famous (and infamous) in squadrons around the world. EZ joined the duo to form Operation Encore in 2012, a non-profit that helps veterans get their music into the world.We dig into a century of fighter pilot history and traditions, from the origins of Dos Gringos, the squadron culture, roll call,Jermiah Weed, the ribbing and roasting, and all the camaraderie associated with military aviation.They recently brought all of that into their latest venture, Winglore Spirits, and are doing it in a unique way that brings you into the fold. Links• Sign up for the ⁠newsletter⁠⁠! • Support us on ⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠!• ⁠Winglore Spirits⁠ • ⁠Winglore Spirits⁠ investing• ⁠Dos Gringos⁠ YouTube channel  ---- Follow us on...• ⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠• Instagram⁠⁠• ⁠⁠X⁠⁠• ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠• ⁠⁠Website⁠⁠ ---- 00:0001:47 Dos Gringos17:22 Operation Encore24:03 AI music27:27 The culture and bar origins34:27 Jermiah Weed38:13 Winglore Spirits42:03 Bogey Dope43:16 Nickel on the Grass45:29 Winglore squadron50:42 the Nellis Club52:02 Dos Gringos concert?54:45 outro55:04 Carlos jumps in56:23 I wish I had a gun like the A-10
• E53 – The Fighter Pilot Spirit 25.11.2025 56min

  Chris "Snooze" Kurek, Rob “Trip” Raymond, and Erik“EZ” Brine chat with Mike “Pako” Benitez on all things fighter pilot culture—toast, roast, and lore.Better known as Dos Gringos, Snooze and Trip put out 4 albums of fighter pilot songs that are famous (and infamous) in squadrons around the world. EZ joined the duo to form Operation Encore in 2012, a non-profit that helps veterans get their music into the world.We dig into a century of fighter pilot history and traditions, from the origins of Dos Gringos, the squadron culture, roll call, Jermiah Weed, the ribbing and roasting, and all the camaraderie associated with military aviation.They recently brought all of that into their latest venture, Winglore Spirits, and are doing it in a unique way that brings you into the fold. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!• Winglore Spirits • Winglore Spirits investing• Dos Gringos YouTube channel  ---- Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0001:47 Dos Gringos17:22 Operation Encore24:03 AI music27:27 The culture and bar origins34:27 Jermiah Weed38:13 Winglore Spirits42:03 Bogey Dope43:16 Nickel on the Grass45:29 Winglore squadron50:42 the Nellis Club52:02 Dos Gringos concert?54:45 outro55:04 Carlos jumps in56:23 I wish I had a gun like the A-10
• E52 – Top Secret Offices 25.10.2025 51min

  Nooks co-founder and CEO Sean Blackman spills all thesecrets about what it takes to do classified business with the Pentagon. Nooks is a venture-backed startup founded in 2021 to solve amassive pain point: access to classified offices and networks to perform sensitive national security work.Nooks is attacking the problem in an innovative way called Classified-Infrastructure-as-a-Service (CIaaS), which is a subscription access to a nationwide network of classifiedworkspaces and IT.If you are in the defense industry—or even thinking about it—and there is even a sliver of a chance you will touch classified work, this episode is everything you need to know.  Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!• Nooks website• Nooks LinkedIn ---- Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0000:46 intro01:49 Nooks02:52 origin story09:49 name and logo12:30 locations and spaces13:30 location and the real value unlock17:57 COVID19:20 fractional labs20:06 fundraising for a weird company22:01 information disadvantage23:33 myth of hiring security clearances30:00 SCIF34:09 mobile SCIF39:23 touchpoints and impact42:13 security in shared spaces46:48 the real impact47:36 magic wand - crystal ball49:50 make the problem go awaysecrets, top secret, military, technology, tech, defense, national security, air force, navy, army, marine corps, usmc
• E51 – Red 6 and the Military Metaverse 05.10.2025 58min

  Red 6 CEO and co-founder Dan Robinson discusses augmented reality for pilots, the military metaverse, and the future of high-end training and tactics development.Red 6 was founded in 2018 around a revolutionary approach to military flight training called ATARS—the Advanced Tactical Augmented Reality System—that creates virtual outdoor worlds to deliver threat-relevant,near-peer-level training scenarios.It’s much more than an augmented reality helmet—it's rethinking the entire pilot training and readiness experience. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!• Red 6 homepage• Red 6 LinkedIn• Red 6 IG• Red6CEO IG ---- Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0000:42 intro01:41 origin story05:22 thesis of Red 606:17 co-founder meeting10:43 lack of adversaries to train against16:03 realism that gets missed17:58 surface threats21:03 progress and iteration25:25 all of the technical challenges27:20 suspension of disbelief30:37 replacing helmet-mounted cueing32:09 Enders Game34:18 the Red 6 name35:59 UK Royal Air Force38:33 manned + unmanned45:08 validating tactics and training51:34 quality vs quantity training54:30 the technology is coming55:21 flying 56:43 the chief morale officer
• E50 – JDAM: the GPS-Guided Bomb 14.09.2025 47min

  Mike sits down with Steve “Wingie” Wingfield to discuss the Joint Direct Attack Munition, aka the JDAM—the world’s first operational GPS-aided bomb.Wingie played a big role in the Air Force, doing weaponsflight testing and requirements writing, then went on to have another career at Boeing working on JDAM and other weapons. He’s one of the few people who got to see the entire storyarc, from the pain points in Desert Storm that started the whole thing, to other evolutions like Laser JDAM and extended range JDAM, and how those programscame to be.If you want a rare inside look at how one of the most successful acquisition programs in the past 30 years happened, this episode is for you. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠! ---- Follow us on...• LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0001:02 intro05:43 JDAM name origin06:56 accuracy spec origin10:43 Desert Storm McPeak Memo11:16 GAM before JDAM12:29 Kosovo combat debut14:39 40k for 40k competition17:44 JDAM adoption22:50 production feast & famine25:19 9/11 demand signal26:33 surging with standards28:43 Iraqi Freedom GPS jamming29:53 Laser JDAM origins33:38 the impact36:01 hitting moving targets37:54 106 mph!39:39 MOP41:33 JDAM-ER41:47 Ukraine42:53 integration and modularity43:41 aerial mining46:22 outro #military #airforce #navy #aviation #tech #technology #JDAM #boeing #GPS #defense #desert storm #iraq #syria #afghanistan #miltech #engineering #USA #security
• E49 – Ursa Major Solid Rocket Motors 31.08.2025 31min

  In this episode, Mike sits down with Dan Jablonsky, CEO ofUrsa Major, to discuss solid rocket motors and how Ursa Major is doing it differently.Once dominated by just two suppliers, America’s SRM propulsion base has been stretched thin—leaving gaps exposed by today’s conflicts. Dan explains how Ursa Major is tackling that challenge withmodular production, 3D printing, Highly Loaded Grain propellants, and advanced manufacturing using what they’ve learned from their liquid motor product lines.We also talk about the big picture: hypersonics, cruisemissiles, and upcoming programs with RTX (Raytheon), the U.S. Navy (SM-2, SM-3, SM-6), the Army, and Stratolaunch.If you want to understand why missile production is one of the biggest defense challenges of our time—and how new entrants like Ursa Major are building solutions—this episode is for you. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!• Ursa Major website• Ursa Major LinkedIn• Ursa Major Instagram • Ursa Major X ---- Follow us on... • LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ---- 00:0000:42 intro01:04 Ursa Major02:22 company name03:48 getting into the SRM business05:29 SRM industrial base07:15 doing SRMs differently09:14 SRM 10112:07 Highly Loaded Grain13:08 increasing missile range15:34 rapid development16:44 scale with safety22:25 rapidly adapting SRMs to the threat23:03 3D printing everything?24:59 hypersonic motors27:20 missiles in space27:47 affordable mass29:14 outro
• The Future of Air Warfare: Offensive Electronic Attack (Sponsored) 13.07.2025 25min

  Electronic warfare is a crucial element of armed conflict involving controlling and protecting the electromagnetic spectrum, which is vital for communication, navigation, and target identification. EW also permits the disruption and denial of adversaries' use of the spectrum, hindering their ability to operate effectively.Benjamin “Chuck” Angus, Director of Business Development in Naval Power at Raytheon, a business of RTX, joins us this week to discuss Raytheon's involvement in EW, specifically offensive electronic attack, with its NextGeneration Jammer—an advanced electronic attack system that denies, disrupts, and degrades enemy technology, including communication tools and air-defense systems.
• E48 – Golden Dome, DIU, and the Innovation Reckoning 22.06.2025 54min

  In this episode, Mike and Jake catch up on defense techhappenings. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!• ⁠⁠Website⁠⁠ ---- Follow us on... • LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠---- 00:36 intro03:31 defense tech investing17:25 Anduril & Golden Dome18:13 Golden Dome25:51 frequency auctioning28:12 Ukraine forcing a US reckoning34:27 DIU criticism42:24 the 4th offset?46:39 Sun Tzu terrain47:45 the torpedo50:05 Ukraine drones and Israeli pagers
• The Future of Air Warfare: Modeling & Simulation (Sponsored) 05.06.2025 30min

  Tomorrow’s fight will be fast, complex, and contested. Victory won’t come from a single platform, weapon, or payload—it will depend on how well everything works together. That’s where modeling and simulation (M&S) matters.This week, Raytheon (an RTX company) joins us to discuss how they are leading the way with Rapid Campaign Analysis and Demonstration Environment (RCADE), a campaign-level M&S capability built to help decision-makers think beyond individual systems and enables them to see the entire operational ecosystem.
• E47 – Cumming's Hellhound 27.04.2025 38min

  Don’t miss our newsletter!That's where we drop weekly knowledge bombs to help you make sense of defense!In this episode, Mike sits down with Sheila Cummings,founder, president, and CEO of Cummings Aerospace. Cummings Aero started in 2009 supporting the Huntsville,Alabama missile market, but recently decided to launch their own product—the Hellhound.The Hellhound S3 is a man-portable, 3D-printe,d jet-powered kamikaze drone...and we have the FIRST-PUBLIC views of the actual drone—audio and video!BREAKING NEWS: Sheila also announced a new variant—theHellhound S4. It’s tube-launched, bigger, better, and even faster than the S3! If you're into military drones, cutting-edge tech, and thestart-up culture of finding ways to help the warfighter—this episode is for you. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!• Mike Benitez on LinkedIn• Cummings Aerospace• Sheila’s op-ed----Follow us on... • LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠ ----  00:00 start01:18 intro01:56 origin story05:03 high speed background06:34 Hellhound origin story10:54 introducing the Hellhound11:27 3D-printed12:31 finding an engine13:34 See the Hellhound21:20 naming the Hellhound22:39 family of drones24:38 supersonic variant29:22 China & Industrialization32:32 Industrial Mobilization Board35:47 outro
• The Future of Air Warfare: Radars (Sponsored) 03.03.2025 38min

  Joe “Grip” Beissner, Director of Requirements and Capabilities for Radio Frequency Solutions at Raytheon, a business of RTX, joins us to discuss the cutting-edge AESA radars Raytheon delivers for our warfighters.
• The Future of Air Warfare: Weapons (Sponsored) 23.02.2025 22min

  Jon "Stormin" Norman, Vice President of Requirements & Capabilities at Raytheon, a business of RTX, joins us to discuss the cutting-edge air-to-air and -surface weapons and effectors Raytheon delivers for our warfighters.
• E46 – Expendable Tech for F-35 Threat Training 16.02.2025 53min

  Don’t miss our newsletter! That's where we drop weekly knowledge bombs to help you make sense of defense!In this episode, Mike sits down with Brett “Snappy”Abbamonte, a former Marine Corps F-35 pilot now at Advanced Strategic Insight (ASI) Inc. Snappy is the program manager for ELITE (ExpendableLower-cost Integrated Training Emitter), a compact, cost-effective system designed to mimic high-end surface-to-air missile (SAM) threats.Dive into how this innovative tech is reshaping training,enhancing readiness, and solving a critical warfighter problem—offering a firsthand look at how operators are using ELITE in the field to sharpen their edge.If you're into military training, cutting-edge technology,and boosting warfighter readiness—this episode is a must-listen. Links• Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠!• Mike Benitez on LinkedIn• Brett “Snappy” Abbamonte on LinkedIn• ASI company• ELITE product ----Follow us on... • LinkedIn• Instagram⁠• ⁠X⁠• ⁠Facebook⁠• ⁠Website⁠----00:00 start01:11 intro03:08 Snappy 04:49 F-35 magnifies a growing problem07:21 the 3-solution problem10:31 good-enough solution space12:12 ELITE13:51 size and power15:35 as a target17:45 customers20:27 remote controlled22:00 how to keep it low cost23:34 creative training25:09 how the training looks26:47 RAF Lakenheath31:19 SBIR experience38:02 valley of death38:34 end of year money40:27 squadron innovation funds42:14 expendable concept validated42:50 Marine Corps weapons school example44:40 expendable allocation46:14 tools for innovative training49:30 memory lane49:45 callsign story51:40 outro#military #nationaldefense #warfare #nationalsecurity#defense #nationaldefense #tech #technology #defensetech #army #navy #airforce #usmc#innovation #war #strategy #aerospace #china #airpower #f35 #training #readiness #electronicwarfare
• E45 – Operational War w/ John Warden 17.01.2025 1h 20min

  Don’t miss our newsletter! That's where we drop weekly knowledge bombs to help you make sense of defense! In this episode, Mike interviews retired Air Force Colonel John Warden. John is an Air Force pioneer who shaped how the modern world thinks about warfare—specifically the concepts of the operational level of war, parallel attack, and centers of gravity. He is most noted as the creator of Warden’s Five Rings and the architect of the Gulf War air campaign—but there’s much more than that. We talked about how his thoughts were shaped in Vietnam and the 1980s, how he ended up in the Pentagon, and what series of events led to his framework being used to create Operation Desert Storm. We applied the real lessons from Desert Storm to discuss China, why it’s a strategic threat, and the blind spot in US national security. If you’re into history, strategy, warfare, military tactics, and national security—this episode is for you.   Links • Sign up for the newsletter⁠! • Support us on ⁠Patreon⁠! • Mike Benitez (LinkedIn) • Winning Peer Wars ---- Follow us on...  • LinkedIn • Instagram⁠ • ⁠X⁠ • ⁠Facebook⁠ • ⁠Website⁠ ---- Show Notes 01:31 intro 03:31 Vietnam experience 05:56 Vietnam reshaped the Air Force 10:36 post-Vietnam thinking about the Middle East 13:56 command structure in the 1980s 16:14 Bitburg to Georgia to Italy 17:38 the 5 Rings - War College origins 18:13 missing the operational level of war 26:17 Warden's 5 rings 29:36 the other usefulness of the 5 rings 32:13 Checkmate 34:25 Checkmate, 5 Rings, and the Soviet Union 35:20 Fuel and the Fulda Gap 39:37 context for Desert Storm 42:44 Checkmate and Desert Storm 45:34 Checkmate gets into Desert Storm 48:26 the original 3-week plan 54:01 Not learning from Desert Storm? 57:24 today's challenges 58:29 China revelation #1 1:00:44 The Gulf War...on US soil 1:02:41 The US cyber vulnerability 1:06:52 China 2027 2035 2049 1:08:36 homeland defense blindspot 1:09:49 coastal defense 1:11:38 self-deterrence? 1:14:42 global reach global power 1:17:48 commitment to defense 1:18:51 outro #military #nationaldefense #warfare #nationalsecurity #defense #nationaldefense #tech #technology #defensetech #army #navy #airforce #usmc #innovation #war #strategy #aerospace #china #desertstorm #gulfwar #airpower #militaryhistory #militarypower #iraq #middleeast #desertstorm #gulfwar