It's Not About The Money
Catherine Morgan
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It's Not About The Money is a podcast for women business owners who want to change their relationship with money. Host Catherine Morgan explores the patterns behind overgiving, undercharging, and income ceilings, alongside practical steps to earn more, keep more, invest, and build wealth. Episodes also cover financial coaching, self-sabotage, nervous system responses, and the psychology of money. The show was formerly known as the In Her Financial Shoes Podcast.
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5 Signs You're Developing a Secure Relationship With Money 12.10.2026In this episode, I explore five signs that indicate you're developing a more secure relationship with money, often without realising it. I share personal stories, practical tools, and insights from attachment theory to help listeners recognise their progress and build trust in their financial journey. Chapters 00:00 Introduction: Recognising Financial Security 02:01 Trust in Uncomfortable Financial Decisions 05:24 Feeling Worthy of Support and Care 10:23 Recognising and Expressing Money Emotions 14:50 Supporting Yourself with Emotional Practices 19:07 Giving and Receiving Money Freely 22:19 Embracing Uncertainty and Building Trust 24:53 Developing Trust in Your Money Journey 25:27 Celebrating Progress and Self-Trust Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth Take the Money StoryTypes® quiz and discover your Money StoryType Watch the Money & Attachment Styles Series -
Why You Swing Between Controlling Money and Avoiding It (Fearful Avoidant Attachment) 05.10.2026 21minIn this episode, I explore the emotional and psychological patterns behind money behaviors, focusing on the fearful avoidant attachment style. I share personal stories and signs to recognize these patterns, offering insights into how to notice and break free from cycles of financial anxiety and avoidance. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to emotional money patterns 02:10 The ping-pong relationship with money 04:43 Signs of fearful avoidant attachment to money 07:10 Emotional triggers behind spending decisions 09:52 The cycle of control and avoidance 12:37 Why discipline alone doesn't fix money patterns 14:13 Building financial self-trust 16:41 The influence of childhood and upbringing 18:19 Moving towards balance and self-awareness 20:27 Practical steps to notice and pause Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth Take the Money StoryTypes® quiz and discover your Money StoryType Watch episode one in this series: The 4 Money Attachment Styles (And How To Spot Yours) Watch episode two in this series: Why Knowing You're Financially Safe Doesn't Make You Feel Safe -
Why Knowing You're Financially Safe Doesn't Make You Feel Safe 28.09.2026 26minIn this episode, I explore the emotional side of financial safety, attachment styles, and how our feelings about money often don't match our actual financial situation. I share insights on how to build trust in ourselves and experience financial security beyond numbers. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to emotional safety and money 02:01 The disconnect between financial facts and feelings 03:49 Attachment styles and their influence on money behavior 06:11 The anxious attachment style and fear of loss 08:52 Trust, trustworthiness, and financial decision-making 12:07 The impact of financial milestones on emotional safety 15:13 Recognizing and sitting with financial discomfort 18:09 The importance of lived experience over reassurance 21:12 Building a secure relationship with money 24:08 Practical steps to notice and bridge the gap Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth Take the Money StoryTypes® quiz and discover your Money StoryType Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller, and my episode on the best money books that aren't about money Catch up on my Who Do You Trust With Your Money episode Watch episode one in this series: The 4 Money Attachment Styles (And How To Spot Yours) -
The 4 Money Attachment Styles (And How To Spot Yours) 21.09.2026 31minIn this episode, I explore how attachment styles influence our relationship with money, revealing patterns that can help us understand and improve our financial behaviors. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and personal story 01:07 Why attachment styles matter in money 02:33 The four attachment styles and their relevance to money 04:37 The anxious attachment style and its signs 14:54 The avoidant attachment style and avoidance behaviors 18:33 The cycle of financial yo-yoing and emotional patterns 24:01 The secure attachment style and emotional regulation 28:37 Recognizing your current attachment style and next steps Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth Read Attached Catch up on last weeks episode - Who Do You Trust With Your Money Uncover the best books that teach you about money that are not money books -
Who Do You Trust With Your Money? 14.09.2026 14minIn this episode, I delve into the complex relationship between trust and money. I explore who we trust with our finances, the importance of self-trust, and how our emotional attachments to money influence our financial decisions. The conversation highlights the need for a deeper understanding of our relationship with money, especially in times of uncertainty, and sets the stage for future discussions on money psychology and financial independence. Chapters 00:00 Exploring Trust in Financial Relationships 08:08 The Importance of Self-Trust with Money 12:57 Understanding Attachments to Money Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth -
Money, Independence and Caring For A Parent with Jayne Sibley, Sibstar 07.09.2026 37minfinancial tool supporting vulnerable individuals. This episode explores the importance of independence, safety, and innovative solutions in financial inclusion for at-risk groups. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Jane and her story 01:45 Caregiving challenges and personal motivation 04:12 The problem of financial management for vulnerable adults 07:12 Experiences with scams and managing risks 09:47 Initial workarounds and their limitations 13:03 Deciding to create a solution and the journey to Dragon's Den 17:10 The impact of public exposure and support from investors 20:11 Why widening access to financial tools matters 22:52 Features of the Sibstar debit card and app 25:45 How to approach conversations about financial safety 30:01 The social impact of empowering vulnerable populations 32:57 Navigating caregiving responsibilities and financial planning 35:14 Next steps for Sibstar and future collaborations 36:12 Closing thoughts and encouragement for caregivers Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth Learn more about Sibstar See Jayne on Dragon's Den Connect with Sibstar on LinkedIn Connect with Sibstar on Instagram Read How to talk about money with someone you care for -
The Part Of You That Doesn't Feel Worthy Of Money 31.08.2026 25minI explore the deep connection between worthiness and money, offering practical and mindset strategies to overcome financial fears rooted in systemic and personal beliefs. This episode provides insights into how to reframe your relationship with money and increase your capacity for abundance. Chapters 02:10 Understanding Internal Family Systems and Money Blocks 03:53 Systemic Influences on Women's Financial Beliefs 05:57 The Power of Past Tense Visualization 07:55 Using the Reticular Activating System to Achieve Goals 09:53 Practicing Visualization and Role-Playing 11:51 Recognizing Feelings of Excitement and Contraction 14:11 The Role of EFT Tapping in Releasing Money Blocks 15:57 Creating a Sense of Safety and Worthiness 18:10 The Importance of Relaxing the Nervous System 20:05 Practical Steps to Increase Worthiness 21:52 Community Resources and Next Steps Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth -
Why Irregular Income Feels Like Panic (Even in a Good Month) 24.08.2026 25minIn this episode I explore how irregular income impacts emotional well-being and provides practical strategies to create financial stability. I share insights on managing money anxiety, establishing reference points, and building resilience with actionable tips. Chapters 00:00 – Introduction to Irregular Income and Its Challenges 00:28 – The Emotional and Physical Toll of Fluctuating Income 01:22 – Three Numbers to Bring Financial Certainty 04:18 – Why Earning More Doesn't Reduce Stress 08:24 – An Alternative to Traditional Budgeting 13:40 – Using Separate Accounts for Security 18:32 – Regulating and Naming Money Feelings 23:25 – Practical Tools and What's Next Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth -
The Best Money Books Are Not About Money 17.08.2026 23minIn this conversation, I explore the intricate relationship between money and emotions, emphasising how our financial behaviors are influenced by attachment styles, internal conflicts, inherited beliefs, and systemic issues. I discuss various books that have shaped my understanding of these connections, highlighting the importance of recognising the emotional and psychological aspects of money management. Chapters 00:00 Understanding Money and Emotions 02:45 Attachment Theory and Money 06:01 Internal Conflicts and Money Behavior 11:05 Inherited Patterns and Money Beliefs 17:38 The Concept of Enoughness 21:07 The Role of Systems in Financial Behavior Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls Discover The Body of Wealth BOOKS MENTIONED: 1. Attached, by Amir Levine & Rachel Heller (2010) 2. No Bad Parts, by Richard Schwartz (2021) 3. It Didn't Start With You, by Mark Wolynn (2016) 4. The Power of Enough, by Elizabeth Husserl (2025) 5. Conscious Capitalism, by John Mackey & Raj Sisodia (2013) Plus: It's Not About the Money: 3 Steps to Become a Wealthy Woman, by Catherine Morgan -
How to Stop Worrying About Money: The One Question That Changes Everything with Jesse Mecham, founder of YNAB 10.08.2026 35minIn this episode, Catherine is joined by Jesse Mecham who shares insights from his journey with money, the importance of understanding what money is for, and how to develop a healthy relationship with it through a simple yet powerful question: 'What is it for?' Discover practical frameworks and personal stories that can transform your approach to money. Chapters 00:00 Introduction: Why Money Is More Than Numbers 01:07 Jesse's Journey: From Basement Spreadsheet to YNAB 02:20 Early Money Memories and Realizations 04:45 Money as a Skill: Learning to Swim 06:35 Aligning Money Decisions with Values 08:23 Money as a Reflection of Self 13:03 The Power of the Question: What's It For? 17:00 The Framework of Five Money Pots 23:22 Decentralization and Trust in Money 33:59 Legacy and Personal Purpose in Money Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls About Jesse Mecham: Jesse Mecham is the founder of the beloved money app YNAB, bestselling author, and host of the top-rated podcast The Jesse Mecham Show. As seen in WIRED, Fortune, and The New York Times, Jesse is a leading voice in the personal finance space. He has helped millions of people get good at money and never worry about money again. He lives in Utah with his wife and family. Pre-Order your copy of Never Worry About Money Again Try YNAB free for one month -
1 Letter That Can Change Your Relationship With Money (Audio) 03.08.2026 12minIn this conversation, I explore the multifaceted relationship individuals have with money, emphasising the importance of understanding the different parts of oneself that influence financial behavior. I encourage listeners to shift from a fixed identity of being 'good' or 'bad' with money to recognising the various parts that contribute to their financial decisions. By fostering self-compassion and curiosity, individuals can navigate their financial patterns more effectively and create a healthier relationship with money. Chapters 00:00 - You are not bad with money 03:15 - Why old money patterns keep repeating 05:30 - Three money parts you may recognize 09:23 - How to respond with curiosity instead of shame Resources: Join the Money Circle - Our free monthly calls -
How much should I charge? (5 Signs You Fear Being Paid) 27.07.2026 17minHave you ever been asked what you charge, and felt something happen before you had even said the number? That half a second where your mind is already running. Is that too much? Is it not enough? What will they think of me? If you know that feeling well, you are in very good company. This is part two of the Love and Money Series, and today I explore the fear of being paid what you are worth. It shows up most for us as sole traders, because when the business is you, being paid can feel deeply personal. But the fear is rarely about the number itself. It is about the meaning we have attached to it. In this episode I walk through the five ways this fear shows up: Overdelivering to feel you have earned the right to be paid Dropping your price before anyone has even asked Rushing or softening the number as it leaves your mouth Overexplaining and justifying your fee Avoiding naming a price at all Chapter Timestamps: 00:12 Introduction to the Fear of Pricing 02:50 Understanding Personal Value in Pricing 05:27 Signs of Fear in Pricing Conversations 10:49 The Impact of Undercharging 14:08 Shifting Mindsets: From Sole Trader to CEO 15:54 Practical Steps to Embrace Your Worth We look at the resentment cost of undercharging, the shift from sole trader to CEO of your own business, and the questions that opens up. What does the business need to run profitably? What is the market willing to pay for the result I create? What is the cost of undercharging? And I leave you with one practice for this week. Say your price, then pause. Don't soften it. Don't explain it. Just sit with it, and notice what arises in your body. This is my fee. I am allowed to be paid for the work I do. It is safe for me to receive. Because being paid what you are worth rests on a much bigger question underneath the number: whether you believe you are allowed to receive, and whether you can hold your price steady enough for someone else to trust it. So carry this with you. What do you make money mean, in the moment when someone offers to pay you for your work? A lot of this work is about worthiness, boundaries, people pleasing, and inner worth. If you would like a safe space for these deeper conversations, come and join us in the Money Circle. It is our free online community, with a monthly newsletter of resources and a live monthly call where we hold space for exactly this. Head to https://themoneypanel.co.uk/newsletter and you will receive an invite for the next circle call in your welcome email. If you missed part one of the Love and Money Series, on why love and money are so deeply connected, listen to that first. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://yt.openinapp.co/op9cg Much love, Catherine x -
3 Ways Money Mirrors How You Give and Receive Love 20.07.2026 33minIn this episode, I explore the intricate relationship between love and money, emphasizing how our capacity to receive and give is deeply intertwined with our self-worth and emotional safety. I discuss the patterns that emerge from our early experiences and conditioning, highlighting the importance of awareness and new positive experiences in healing our relationship with money. The conversation delves into generational trauma and the impact of our upbringing on our financial behaviors, offering practical steps to begin the healing process. Chapters 00:00 - Why love and money mirror each other more than you think 01:57 - How childhood conditioning shapes your capacity to hold wealth 03:21 - Family patterns, early trauma, and the nervous system's relationship with safety 08:22 - The three ways love and money show up the same: receiving, giving, and letting go 13:24 - Intergenerational patterns, attachment, and inherited unworthiness 22:41 - Practical ways to expand your financial and emotional comfort zone 35:09 - Healing your relationship with money by nurturing your self-worth Resources: Read It Didn't Start With You by Mark Wolynn Take the Money Story Types Quiz Join the Money Circle Discover this previous episode revealing why you can't hold onto money and how it's linked to love -
Why Your Brain Feels Different in Perimenopause — ADHD, Hormones & RSD with Kate Moryoussef 25.05.2026 40minI am joined by Kate Moryoussef, as we explore the intricate relationship between ADHD, hormonal changes, and women's health. We discuss personal experiences with late ADHD diagnoses, the impact of perimenopause, and the significance of understanding rejection-sensitive dysphoria (RSD). The conversation also highlights the benefits of Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) as a tool for emotional regulation and self-acceptance, particularly for neurodivergent women navigating these challenges. In this conversation, Kate and I explore the transformative power of Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT) in managing overwhelm, guilt, and shame, particularly for women navigating ADHD and hormonal changes. We provide practical demonstrations of EFT, discuss the importance of self-compassion, and highlight the significance of understanding women's health issues. Kate shares insights from her book, the ADHD Women's Wellbeing Toolkit, emphasising the need for accessible resources and self-empowerment. The conversation concludes with a focus on sustainable growth and the importance of rest in both personal and professional lives. Chapters 00:00 Understanding ADHD and Hormonal Influences 10:10 The Impact of Diagnosis on Personal Growth 20:02 Navigating Perimenopause and ADHD 30:01 Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD) Explained 39:53 Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) and Its Benefits 26:05 Demonstrating EFT for Overwhelm 30:30 Understanding Guilt and Shame in EFT 34:14 Navigating Women's Health and Hormones 35:55 The ADHD Women's Wellbeing Toolkit 39:25 The Journey of Writing a Book with ADHD 40:36 Sustainable Growth and Rest in Business Resources: Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money' Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz Sign up to my FREE Newsletter Become a Certified Financial Coach Reveal and Heal The Inherited Money Patterns Keeping You Stuck with the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs Framework Guide Enroll for Wealth Resonance Discover the Body of Wealth Check out the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs If today's conversation stirred something in you, Kate's self-paced workshop library might be a great next step. There's a wide range of topics covered - from emotional wellbeing and nervous system regulation to identity and everyday ADHD life- all created with late-diagnosed women in mind. You can dip in at your own pace, without any pressure to do it all at once. Browse the full library here: https://www.adhdwomenswellbeing.co.uk/workshops -
Why Success Feels Unsafe: The Nervous System Block That Keeps You Broke 27.04.2026 28minIn this conversation, I explore the concept of money set points and how our nervous system influences our relationship with wealth. I discuss the biological responses to financial success and introduce three somatic techniques to help expand our capacity for wealth. These techniques focus on creating a sense of safety in the body, allowing individuals to navigate their financial journeys with greater ease and confidence. Chapters 00:00 Understanding Money Set Points 02:57 The Nervous System and Money 05:50 Somatic Techniques for Financial Safety 08:40 Safety Anchoring Technique 12:00 Capacity Expansion Technique 17:01 The Expanded Heart Technique 23:49 Recap and Conclusion Resources: Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money' Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz Sign up to my FREE Newsletter Become a Certified Financial Coach Reveal and Heal The Inherited Money Patterns Keeping You Stuck with the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs Framework Guide Join the waitlist for Wealth Resonance Discover the Body of Wealth Learn more about The Great Release Check out the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs -
Why You Fight About Money (It's Not About the Money) 20.04.2026 24minIn this episode, I explore the complex dynamics of money arguments in relationships, emphasising that these conflicts often stem from deeper emotional and nervous system responses rather than the financial issues themselves. I introduce the concept of Money Story Types, which are shaped by early life experiences, and discuss how understanding these types can help couples navigate their financial conversations more effectively. The episode provides practical strategies for reframing discussions about money to foster collaboration and acceptance between partners. Chapters 00:00 Understanding Money Arguments 02:48 The Role of Nervous System in Money Conversations 06:04 Identifying Money Story Types 08:58 Conflict Between Money Story Types 12:03 Strategies for Harmonious Money Conversations 14:59 The Importance of Acceptance in Money Dynamics 17:58 Practical Reframes for Money Discussions21:08 Conclusion and Next Steps Resources: Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money' Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz Sign up to my FREE Newsletter Become a Certified Financial Coach Reveal and Heal The Inherited Money Patterns Keeping You Stuck with the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs Framework Guide Join the waitlist for Wealth Resonance Discover the Body of Wealth Learn more about The Great Release -
Why Money Affirmations Don't Work (And What Does Instead) 13.04.2026 21minIn this episode, I explore the emotional and somatic aspects of money mindset, emphasising acceptance over resistance. I discuss research on affirmations, the importance of emotional scale, and practical techniques like embodied heart breathing to transform your relationship with money. Chapters 00:00 The Power of Positive Thinking About Money 02:58 Understanding Emotional Responses to Money 07:23 The Importance of Acceptance in Financial Well-being 12:53 Embodied Heart Breathing Practice for Money Emotions19:20 The Great Release: A Path to Financial Freedom Resources: Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money' Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz Sign up to my FREE Newsletter Become a Certified Financial Coach Reveal and Heal The Inherited Money Patterns Keeping You Stuck with the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs Framework Guide Join the waitlist for Wealth Resonance Discover the Body of Wealth Learn more about The Great Release -
EFT & Money with Theresa Lear Levine 06.04.2026 45minn this episode I am joined by Theresa Lear Levine - EFT Master Practitioner, Hypnotherapist, and bestselling author of "Becoming More Me, to explore the transformative power of somatic practices like EFT, hypnotherapy, and binaural beats in shifting beliefs, managing stress, and embodying new identities. Theresa shares her personal journey, techniques, and practical tips for harnessing these tools to create lasting change. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to EFT and Personal Journeys 00:12 The Impact of Trauma on Success 03:09 Awakening to Change and Self-Discovery 06:05 The Power of EFT Tapping 09:07 EFT in Practice: Personal Experiences 12:12 Understanding the Science Behind EFT 15:13 Demonstrating EFT Tapping Techniques 21:20 The Impact of Affirmations on Beliefs 27:13 Transitioning to a New Reality 35:05 The Power of Binaural Beats 40:40 The Importance of Breath Awareness Resources: Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money' Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz Sign up to my FREE Newsletter Become a Certified Financial Coach Reveal and Heal The Inherited Money Patterns Keeping You Stuck with the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs Framework Guide Join the waitlist for Wealth Resonance Discover the Body of Wealth Watch the first episode of the Body of Wealth series Watch the Second episode of the Body of Wealth Series Find out more about Theresa Learn more about Becoming More Me (Please note we are an affiliate for this product which means we may earn an affiliate commission for any purchases) -
The 4 Emotions That Block Every Money Decision 30.03.2026 28minIn this episode I explore the four major emotions - grief, fear, shame, and resentment - that influence money decisions. I discuss how these emotions are stored in the body, their impact on financial behavior, and practical tools like emotional freedom technique (EFT) to release them. Chapters 00:00 The Emotional Body and Money 01:03 Understanding Somatic Patterns in Money 01:37 Why Logical Advice Isn't Enough 02:31 Research on Emotional Mapping in the Body 05:56 Financial Grief and Its Impact 12:13 Fear as a Major Money Emotion 14:32 Shame and Its Silent Power 18:42 Resentment and Systemic Money Beliefs 22:31 Tools for Emotional Release and Change Resources: Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money' Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz Sign up to my FREE Newsletter Become a Certified Financial Coach Reveal and Heal The Inherited Money Patterns Keeping You Stuck with the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs Framework Guide Join the waitlist for Wealth Resonance Discover the Body of Wealth Watch the first episode of the Body of Wealth series -
Money Comes In, Then Something Always Happens 23.03.2026 20minI explore the somatic and emotional aspects of our relationship with money, revealing how body patterns rooted in past experiences influence our financial behaviors and feelings of security. Over this series, I offer practical tools like emotional freedom technique and heart breathing to help shift these deep-seated patterns. Chapters 00:00 Understanding Financial Patterns and Emotions 10:46 The Role of Somatics in Financial Well-being 18:51 Exploring Possibilities for Healing Financial Relationships Resources: Get my FREE book 'It's Not About The Money' Take the Money StoryTypes® Quiz Sign up to my FREE Newsletter Become a Certified Financial Coach Reveal and Heal The Inherited Money Patterns Keeping You Stuck with the 5 Hidden Money Beliefs Framework Guide Join the waitlist for Wealth Resonance Discover the Body of Wealth
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