Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast

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  Your First To São Paulo 06.10.2026 54Min.

  Ryan takes us on his first trip to São Paulo, Brazil sharing the restaurants, coffee shops, and museums, that make the city. From mortadella sandwiches at the Mercado Municipal and dinner at A Casa do Porco to MASP, the Pinacoteca, and the historic Centro, he breaks down the places worth building a first visit around. Along the way, he dives into São Paulo's food culture, modern art, history, and sprawling urban energy. Coffee CoffeeTaste, República https://www.instagram.com/coffeetaste.republica_sp/ 1908 Coffee Station https://www.instagram.com/1908coffee.station/ A2 Café Especial https://www.instagram.com/a2caffee/ Santuário do Café https://www.instagram.com/santuario.docafe/ Food A Casa do Porco Bar https://acasadoporco.com.br/ CoffeeTaste, República is nearby for pre-dinner coffee. Shin-Zushi 新寿司 https://www.instagram.com/shinzushioficial/ Clementina Bar de Vinhos https://www.instagram.com/clementina___sp/ Mercado Municipal de São Paulo https://www.instagram.com/mercadaospoficial/ Bar do Mané https://bardomane.com.br/ Epic fucking mortadella sandwich. Pastel de camarão com Catupiry: a giant fried pastry stuffed with shrimp and creamy Brazilian cheese. Mocotó Vila Medeiros https://mocoto.com.br/ Dadinhos de tapioca (dah-JEEN-yos jeh tah-pee-OH-kah): Fried cubes made from tapioca and queijo coalho, usually served with a sweet-spicy sauce. Baião-de-dois (bye-OWN jeh DOYS): A Northeastern Brazilian rice-and-beans dish with rice, black-eyed peas, carne-seca, sausage, and queijo coalho. Mocotó's fuller version can also include bacon and extra meat. Caldo de mocotó (KAHL-doo jeh moh-koh-TOH): A rich broth made from cow's foot, cooked down until gelatinous and deeply savory. It's the dish that gives the restaurant its name. TAN TAN https://www.tantan.com.br/en/tantan Nelita Restaurant https://nelitarestaurante.com.br/ LITA Wine Bar https://winelita.com/ Museums: Art Pinacoteca de São Paulo https://pinacoteca.org.br/ MASP, Museu de Arte de São Paulo https://masp.org.br/ Instituto Tomie Ohtake https://www.institutotomieohtake.org.br/ Beco do Batman https://prefeitura.sp.gov.br/web/turismo/w/conhe%C3%A7a-o-beco-do-batman-reduto-de-arte-urbana-da-cidade-com-o-turistou-tarifa-zero Galeria Alma da Rua https://www.galeriaalmadarua.com.br/ Museums: History Memorial da Resistência https://memorialdaresistenciasp.org.br/ Museu do Ipiranga https://museudoipiranga.org.br/ Parque da Independência https://prefeitura.sp.gov.br/meio_ambiente/w/parques/regiao_sul/5747 Casa do Grito https://www.museudacidade.prefeitura.sp.gov.br/sobre-mcsp/casa-do-grito/ Monumento à Independência https://prefeitura.sp.gov.br/web/cultura/w/patrimonio_historico/noticias/13064 Tosto Café https://www.instagram.com/tosto.cafe/ Historic Centro Mosteiro de São Bento https://www.mosteirodesaobentosp.com.br/ Farol Santander https://www.farolsantander.com.br/sp Praça do Patriarca https://prefeitura.sp.gov.br/web/obras/w/prefeitura-de-s%C3%A3o-paulo-avan%C3%A7a-na-revitaliza%C3%A7%C3%A3o-da-pra%C3%A7a-do-patriarca-e-viaduto-do-ch%C3%A1-1 Viaduto do Chá https://www.sp.gov.br/sp/conheca-sp/pontos-turisticos Theatro Municipal de São Paulo https://theatromunicipal.org.br/ Edifício Copan https://www.copansp.com.br/ The Last Stop: Ryan: 100 Best Soups in the World, TasteAtlas https://www.tasteatlas.com/best-rated-soups-in-the-world
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  Chicago with Children 22.09.2026 45Min.

  This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan and his family head to Chicago to explore playgrounds, kid-friendly museums, hot dogs, and Presidential Centers (okay, just one Presidential Center.) Plus, Pope Leo is a looker! Things We Talked About: First Trip to Chicago Episode https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/first-trip-to-chicago/id1438098925?i=1000662387126 Devil Dawgs https://www.devildawgs.com/  Williams Inn https://www.williamsinnpizza.com/  Giordano's https://giordanos.com/  Firecakes Donuts https://firecakesdonuts.com/  Doughnut Vault https://www.doughnutvault.com/  Maggie Daley Park https://www.maggiedaleypark.com/things-to-do-see/play-garden  Lincoln Park Zoo https://www.lpzoo.org/  Field Museum https://www.fieldmuseum.org/blog/sue-t-rex  Mold-a-Rama https://www.mold-a-rama.com/  Griffin Museum of Science and Industry https://www.griffinmsi.org/  The U-Boat https://www.griffinmsi.org/exhibits/u-505-submarine  Swiss Jollyball https://www.griffinmsi.org/exhibits/swiss-jolly-ball  606 Trail https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/606  Bird Eyes Art on The 606 https://www.wpr.org/shows/to-the-best-of-our-knowledge/100-bird-eyes-are-watching-you  Obama Presidential Center https://obama.org/visit/  Pope Leo's Birthday Statue https://www.americamagazine.org/news/2026/09/08/tallest-statue-pope-leo-peru/  Lucas Museum of Narrative Art https://lucasmuseum.org/ 
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  Your First Trip To Rio de Janeiro 08.09.2026 1Std. 7Min.

  This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan heads to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil! He takes in the city's beaches, mountains, museums, historic sites, restaurants, natural wine bars, and more, with everything you need to know for your first trip to Rio. Things We Talked About: History Book Brazil: A Biography https://www.amazon.com/dp/0374280495 Attractions + Culture Parque Bondinho Pão de Açúcar (Sugarloaf) https://bondinho.com.br/ Christ the Redeemer + Corcovado Train https://www.tremdocorcovado.rio/ Cais do Valongo https://www.rio.rj.gov.br/web/muhcab/cais-do-valongo-patrimonio-mundial Real Gabinete Português de Leitura https://www.realgabinete.com.br/ Paço Imperial http://www.pacoimperial.com.br/ Jardim Botânico do Rio de Janeiro https://www.gov.br/jbrj/pt-br Museums MAM Rio https://mam.rio/ Museu da República — Palácio do Catete https://www.gov.br/museus/pt-br/museus-ibram/museu-da-republica Museu Nacional https://museunacional.ufrj.br/ Restaurants Talho Café https://talhocapixaba.com.br/ Casa do Chef Jota https://www.casadochefjota.com.br/ Artigiano https://restauranteartigiano.com/ Quinta da Henriqueta https://www.instagram.com/quintadahenriqueta/ Haru Sushi Bar https://haruichiban.com.br/ Mocellin Steak https://www.mocellinsteak.com.br/ OCYÁ Ilha (Taking a Boat!) https://ocya.com.br/ Wine Virtuoso Vinho https://www.instagram.com/virtuosovinho/ Casa Tão Longe, Tão Perto (Botafogo) https://www.instagram.com/casatltp.botafogo/ Belisco Bar de Vinhos  (Botafogo) https://www.instagram.com/belisco.rj/ Cocktails Babbo Osteria https://www.instagram.com/babboosteria/ ÊTTA Bar https://www.instagram.com/etta_bar/ Coffee Coffee Five https://coffeefive.com.br/ LAB Café https://www.instagram.com/labcafe.rio/ The Last Stop Ryan: Dolly Parton + Great Smoky Mountains https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/knoxville-the-great-smoky-mountains/id1438098925?i=1000495407828 Kiernan: Rick Steves Purchases Edmonds Theater https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/movies/rick-steves-purchases-edmonds-theater-moviehouse/
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  London, with Mom! 25.08.2026 44Min.

  This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan heads back to London for the first time post-COVID—with his mother! The two revisit old standbys, new attractions, and musicals, musicals, musicals! Things We Talked About: Harbor Country in Michigan https://www.bonappetit.com/story/where-to-eat-harbor-country-southwestern-michigan?srsltid=AfmBOopMgZXXv0akMPuyVKPCwWrPAI2f7GlZ6apBb3rrjyT3faojo_j4  Benjamin Pollock's Toy Shop https://www.pollocks-coventgarden.co.uk/  Oliver https://oliverthemusical.com/ Six https://sixthemusical.com/london/  Operation Mincemeat https://operationmincemeat.com/  Churchill War Rooms https://www.iwm.org.uk/visits/churchill-war-rooms  V&A East Storehouse https://www.vam.ac.uk/east/storehouse/visit#things-to-see-and-do  LIDAR podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-archeological-tech-is-rewriting-everything-we-know/id1237796990?i=1000784018446  Big Bend Construction https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/17/us/big-bend-border-wall-texas-construction.html
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  New York State's Odyssey 11.08.2026 42Min.

  This week on the pod, the boys talk about New York State's Odyssey, from Troy to Ithaca in about two hours. Also, Ryan interviews historian Daniel Koch about why so many upstate towns have classical names. Things Talked About on the pod: Land of the Oneidas: Central New York State and the Creation of America, from Prehistory to the Present https://a.co/d/0i15zgNN Classical Place-Names and the American Frontier https://antigonejournal.com/2021/10/classical-place-names-america/ "Coming Into the Country" by John McPhee  https://www.amazon.com/dp/0374522871?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback    Greek cities of the South https://www.weirdsouth.com/post/greek-cities-of-the-south   Mr. Peanut Novel https://www.amazon.com/dp/0307454908?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback    
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  Traveling The Odyssey 28.07.2026 52Min.

  This week on the pod, the boys talk The Odyssey, and Ryan speaks with Laura Coffey about her Homeric travels chronicled in her book, Enchanted Islands: Travels Through Myth & Magic, Love & Loss. Things We Talked About: Enchanted Islands: Travels Through Myth & Magic, Love & Loss https://a.co/d/0e1iMY8Z MAP - The Odyssey: A Mythical Journey through The Real World https://a.co/d/0hOUJ8Cf Laura Coffey on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/l_j_coffey/  
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  Parkitecture 14.07.2026 36Min.

  This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan takes us through the history and artistry of Parkitecture—the architectural design of America's National Parks! Plus, Ryan researches the ideal number of days to go on vacation. Things We Talked About in This Episode: Colombia's Literary World Cup shirt https://sports.yahoo.com/article/magical-realism-colombia-unveil-world-155300778.html  Insight Guides https://www.insightguides.com/  Parkitecture https://www.nps.gov/subjects/architecture/parkitecture.htm  President Truman tickling those rustic ivories https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/photograph-records/63-1333  "Park and Recreation Structures" https://archive.org/details/parkrecreationst00good/page/n237/mode/2up  Ideal Vacation Length https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10902-012-9345-3  Conor Knighton is a Patriot https://www.instagram.com/conorknighton/reel/DaYM4m6OtQQ/?hl=en 
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  Traveling The USA For The World Cup With NPR's Ava Berger 30.06.2026 49Min.

  This week on the pod, the boys talk about their favorite subject: sports. The World Cup is captivating everyone, and the many visitors to the USA are soaking up all the Americana. Ryan chats with NPR's Ava Berger about what's captivating them. Things We Talked About in This Episode: https://www.nprillinois.org/2026-06-19/big-dogs-buc-ees-and-the-great-bbq-debate-world-cup-fans-discover-everyday-america https://www.npr.org/2026/06/13/nx-s1-5856514/the-joys-of-reporting-on-3-teenagers-chasing-glory-in-the-world-series-of-birding https://x.com/FreddyLA7 https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/19/sport/video/merlin-the-duck-is-mexicos-unofficial-mascot-digvid-vrtc
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  The Foods of Lebanon with Anissa Helou 16.06.2026 48Min.

  This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan chats with one of our all-time favorite guests—food writer and researcher Anissa Helou. She's just published "Lebanon: Cooking the Foods of My Homeland" and spills the secrets of tabbouleh, falafel, skewered meat, hummus, labneh, and many other Lebanese specialities.  Things We Talk About in This Episode: Anissa's last interview with us https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925  "Lebanon: Cooking the Foods of My Homeland" https://bookshop.org/p/books/lebanon-cooking-the-foods-of-my-homeland-anissa-helou/77fff24da4bf58f4?ean=9780063334922&next=t  Pope Leo at the Sagrada Familia https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/10/world/europe/pope-leo-sagrada-familia-barcelona-visit.html
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  Return Trip: Rocky Mountain National Park 02.06.2026 49Min.

  This week we take a return trip to episode 122 of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast. Kiernan talks about Rocky Mountain National Park ahead of the busy summer season. From majestic peaks to glassy lakes, RMNP is one of America's premiere parks with hikes and sights accessible to all age ranges and abilities. Plus, Ryan talks about Peru prep. Rocky Mountain National Park https://www.nps.gov/romo/index.htm  The Stanley Hotel https://www.stanleyhotel.com/  Grand Lake Lodge https://www.grandlakelodge.com/  Allenpark Lodge https://allensparklodgebnb.com/  Smokin' Dave's BBQ https://smokindavesbbq.com/  The Donut Haus http://www.donuthaus-estespark.com/  Falcon Guide https://www.amazon.com/Best-Hikes-Rocky-Mountain-National/dp/1493046780/ref=sr_1_1?crid=LNBPCIWSMUAE&keywords=rocky+mountain+easy+day+hike&qid=1654717385&s=books&sprefix=rocky+mountain+easy+day+hi%2Cstripbooks%2C74&sr=1-1  "The Motorcycle Diaries" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Motorcycle_Diaries_(film)  The New Yorker's "Flight Attendants Fight Back" https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/05/30/flight-attendants-fighting-back
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  Standout Beaches 19.05.2026 55Min.

  This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," 2 of the palest podcast hosts in the business spotlight 6 amazing beaches across the US, Mexico, South America, and Southeast Asia. Things We Talk About on Today's Episode: Ocean City, Maryland https://www.ococean.com/  Northern Shore MA Beaches – Crane Beach, Wingaersheek Beach, Plum Island, Coffins Beach https://www.visit-massachusetts.com/northofbostoncapeann/beaches/  Barú, Colombia https://colombia.travel/en/cartagena-de-indias/visit-beach-baru  An Bang Beach, Vietnam https://www.vietnamairlines.com/us/en/plan-book/travel/travel-guide/an-bang-beach-hoi-an  Puerto Vallarta, Mexico https://visitpuertovallarta.com/things-to-do/beaches  Brighton, England https://www.visitbrighton.com/things-to-do/attractions/beachfront  Pope Leo's Peru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziN1QrXh5vs  Harvard's ties to slavery https://www.harvardmagazine.com/university-news/harvard-enslaved-people-database-descendants 
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  Bronx Zoo 05.05.2026 45Min.

  This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan covers the history and highlights of the Bronx Zoo. We also touch on Scientology, Mitt Romney, callings to the priesthood, and Colombia's biodiversity. Things We Talk About on Today's Episode: Little Red Lighthouse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red_Lighthouse  Bronx Zoo https://bronxzoo.com/  William Temple Hornaday and the Bison https://siarchives.si.edu/history/featured-topics/stories/william-temple-hornaday-saving-american-bison  The Atlantic's "Best Free Restaurant Bread in America" by Caity Weaver https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/05/best-free-restaurant-bread-america/686582/  Trump's photo added to US passports https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exclusive-state-department-introduces-new-us-passports-celebrating-america250 
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  Spain's Andalusian Costa del Sol 21.04.2026 38Min.

  This week on Out Of Office, Ryan and Kiernan explore Spain's Costa del Sol, from Málaga's layered history of Roman and Moorish influence to Marbella's relaxed, sun-soaked Old Town. It's a quick dive into how this region became a global tourism hotspot, blending culture, beaches, and just the right amount of indulgence.
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  Croatia's Plitvice Lakes National Park 08.04.2026 31Min.

  This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan takes us to one of Europe's greatest natural treasures: Plitvice Lake National Park in Croatia. Beautiful ice-blue lakes and gorgeous waterfalls are lined with easy-to-navigate boardwalks, and hiking trails traverse the whole park. Plus, Ryan isn't moving to Austria as early as we thought! Things We Talked About in Today's Episode: Rick Steves is on tour! https://www.ricksteves.com/about-rick/wheres-rick  Rick Steves interview https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/rick-steves-is-back-for-episode-200/id1438098925?i=1000704427247  Plitvice Lakes National Park https://np-plitvicka-jezera.hr/en/  Plitvice Hikes https://www.afar.com/magazine/visiting-plitvice-lakes-national-park-in-croatia  Titanic drone show https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tv/video-3629983/Video-Drone-recreates-Titanics-historic-Belfast-departure.html  Map of art and cultural destruction in Iran https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2026/03/25/we-are-trying-to-preserve-the-memory-of-our-people-archaeologists-create-map-tracking-damage-to-iran-heritage-sites 
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  National Park Match Making 24.03.2026 37Min.

  This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan recommends national parks for you to visit this summer, based on your preferences. Looking for zero crowds? Yearning for high-adrenaline action? Searching for variety? KPS unleashes his NPS knowledge. Things we talked about in today's podcast: Kiernan on NPR https://www.wgbh.org/podcasts/the-culture-show/march-10-2026-shaina-taub-on-suffs-a-secret-boston-st-patricks-day-and-fabiola-mendez  National Parks of the Pacific Northwest https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/national-parks-of-the-pacific-northwest/id1438098925?i=1000442664674  State Parks with Peter Kujawinski  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/id1438098925?i=1000445675724  Things from up children's noses https://apps.bostonglobe.com/2026/03/opinion/ideas/graphics/lost-found/  Burning PA Town https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/centralia-pennsylvania-rebirth  
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  Sheltering In Place in Puerto Vallarta 10.03.2026 49Min.

  On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks about sheltering in place in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico during the 2026 Jalisco Operation. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-3608909/Tourist-stranded-Mexico-El-Mencho-operation.html
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  Return Trip: Skiing for the Skeptical 24.02.2026 49Min.

  This week, as Kiernan is skiing in real life and Ryan is freshly back from Puerto Vallarta, Out of Office: A Travel Podcast takes a return trip. The boys talk about their holiday breaks and discuss why ski trips are well worth the expense and the steep learning curve. Plus, Ryan has a onesie. Here's what we cover in this episode: NYT on European Skiing https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/19/travel/europe-skiing-budget.html Beaver Creek https://www.beavercreek.com/ Cannon Mountain in New Hampshire https://www.cannonmt.com/tickets
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  Most Memorable Food Experiences 10.02.2026 40Min.

  This week on the pod, the boys talk about their favorite food experiences, from Peru to Dubai, with a little Eastern Shore of Maryland thrown in. Plus, learn which European cities are the most densely packed and perfect for traveling on foot. LAST STOP: Ryan: https://www.travelawaits.com/3021526/most-walkable-cities-in-europe-from-new-study/ Kiernan: https://www.datarescueproject.org/save-our-signs-the-peoples-archive/
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  New York Times Editor Stephen Hiltner on the "52 Places to Go in 2026" 27.01.2026 51Min.

  This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan chats with Stephen Hiltner, the New York Times editor in charge of this year's "52 Places to Go in 2026." Stephen walks us through this year's top picks and themes. Here's what we cover in this episode: "52 Places to Go in 2026" https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/travel/places-to-travel-destinations-2026.html  "Top 10 Reader Favorites from our '52 Places to Go' List" https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/travel/places-to-go-readers-picks.html 
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  Your First Trip To Madrid 13.01.2026 54Min.

  Ryan's guide to a perfect Madrid weekend, whether Salvador Dalí is your thing or not. Museums, parks, palaces, and the restaurants you should avoid, with plenty of great food instead. Eat Here: https://www.instagram.com/gotawine/ https://www.instagram.com/marcelle_madrid/