Great Women in Compliance
For a long time, compliance was perceived as a part of the larger legal world. Today, compliance is its own profession—a place where people work tirelessly to make the world a better place, one where doing the right thing is the standard for everyone. There are a lot of amazing and inspirational women who have helped the compliance field develop into what it is today, and women are joining this field every day. They are leading the work on cutting-edge issues and breaking barriers for women. Join Hemma Lomax and Lisa Fine as they talk with women in compliance who are making a difference. This podcast is part of the Compliance Podcast Network.
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Raising the Bar on Compliance Training 10.06.2026 32λWhat makes compliance training actually work in 2026? It has come a long way from the days when simply having a training program was considered enough. In this episode, Lisa talks with Kirsten Liston, CEO and Founder of Rethink Compliance, to discuss how expectations for compliance training have evolved over the past two decades and what organizations should be thinking about today. Kirsten discusses her experience in the compliance learning space and shares insights from her recent white paper, “Raising the Bar: A New Standard for Compliance Training.” She reflects on the best ways to create training that is engaging, relevant, and capable of driving real impact in organizations of any size. Kirsten and Lisa discuss the growing focus on engagement and effectiveness, the challenges of reaching global audiences while maintaining consistency, and the importance of helping employees understand why ethics and compliance matter rather than focusing on the rules. They look ahead to the role AI plays now and will play in the future of compliance learning and why, even as technology advances, human-centered communication remains essential. This conversation offers both a look back at how the field has changed and practical insights for compliance professionals seeking to ensure their training programs continue evolving to meet their unique organizational needs.
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Wildly Effective, 10 Years Later 03.06.2026 21λAuthor and compliance professional Kristy Grant-Hart on the 10th anniversary of her book. Sarah Hadden sits down with Kristy Grant Hart to discuss the 10th anniversary edition of her influential book, How to Be a Wildly Effective Compliance Officer. They explore how the compliance profession has evolved over the past decade — from a rules-and-regulations mindset toward a more human-centered approach grounded in influence, resilience, storytelling, and leadership. They also dig into some of the book’s more debated ideas, including personal branding, visibility, networking, and whether being “wildly effective” requires becoming an influencer. Along the way, they tackle burnout, resilience, AI’s rapidly expanding role and why human judgment remains irreplaceable. This is a candid and energizing conversation about what it really takes to thrive in compliance today — and why the future of the profession is bright.
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Designing The Rooms Where Leadership Happens 27.05.2026 50λThis week on Great Women in Compliance, Hemma Lomax sits down with Meredith Anastasio, Managing Director of the Emerging Technology Division at Opal Group, for a thoughtful conversation about leadership, emerging technology, governance, and the power of designing meaningful dialogue. Meredith’s career journey has taken her from law to executive leadership and strategic convening, where she now creates high-impact forums that bring together leaders across compliance, governance, AI, technology, and business. Her work focuses on building spaces where complex ideas can be explored honestly, collaboratively, and with practical impact. Meredith shares why she believes compliance and governance professionals are uniquely important in moments of rapid technological change, and why thoughtful conversations matter more than ever in the age of AI. She and Hemma discuss the difference between simply organizing events and intentionally designing environments where leaders can challenge assumptions, wrestle with complexity, and move industries forward together. The conversation also explores Meredith’s legal background, her passion for leadership development, and her belief that compliance work remains one of the most meaningful and influential professions inside modern organizations. Topics include: Meredith’s journey from lawyer to leadership strategist The vision behind Opal Group’s emerging technology initiatives Why governance and compliance conversations matter now The role of human judgment in increasingly automated systems Designing rooms where meaningful leadership conversations can happen About Meredith Anastasio: Meredith Anastasio, J.D., MSEL, is the Managing Director of the Emerging Technology Division at Opal Group. She leads conferences and executive forums focused on AI, governance, leadership, and emerging technologies, bringing together cross-functional leaders for deeper, more collaborative conversations about the future of business and society. Meredith also serves as the Founder and CEO of MAEvents, LLC, and has a background in law and executive leadership.
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Compliance Week 2026 Highlights with Nick Gallo 15.05.2026 20λTeam #GWIC and the #GWICfam were out in full force at the 2026 Compliance Week conference in Washington, DC. Nick Gallo, a Great Gentleman in Compliance, was gracious enough (or agreed when he was “voluntold”) to be our roving reporter, asking people about their conference highlights, practical takeaways, and about AI in compliance, as that was one key event focus. The episode also highlights the importance of collaboration, mentorship, and authentic connections in our community, and Compliance Week is such a great reminder of that. From discussions about everything from culture to analytics to celebrating Joe Murphy’s Lifetime Achievement Award, the conference reinforced both the rapid evolution of compliance and the generosity of the people working in it. You will hear the themes of friendships, learning, and shared purpose that continue to define the compliance community from our friends and colleagues.
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DOJ’s New Fraud Division: Practical Insights for Compliance Professionals 06.05.2026 44λIn this episode, Lisa and Ellen speak with Leigha Simonton and Jennifer Beidel, former prosecutors and now partners at Dykema Gossett. They discuss the changes in the U.S. Department of Justice, focusing on the National Fraud Enforcement Division and shifts in enforcement priorities. They discuss the spotlight on fraud involving federal funds, especially in healthcare, PPP loans, and other government programs. They discuss the new structure of the criminal fraud division and how that may change the government’s approach to prosecuting cases. At the same time, they also note that many experienced prosecutors and agents have left the DOJ, creating a gap between stated priorities and capacity and expertise. Leigha and Jennifer also provide practical guidance for ethics and compliance professionals. They confirm that a risk assessment is critical and that any company that received federal funds, such as PPP loans, should remain vigilant for possible exposure under the current enforcement trends. Even with these changes, they reiterate that effective, well-tested compliance programs do matter if the U.S. government is considering (or engaging in) prosecution. A proactive program—not the tick-the-box type—demonstrates implementation and remediation, increasing the likelihood of a declination. This is a great episode for those of us trying to understand the US DOJ’s current enforcement landscape amid uncertainty.
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Risk as a Leadership Discipline: Lessons from Internal Audit 29.04.2026 47λGuest Bio: Michelle Wagner is Vice President and Head of Internal Audit at DocuSign, where she leads global audit strategy and helps the organization strengthen governance, risk management, and internal controls while supporting a culture of integrity and accountability. With more than 25 years of experience across consulting and industry, Michelle has held leadership roles at Deloitte, Costco, and SAP, where she led large audit portfolios, built high-performing teams, and drove governance and risk transformation initiatives across complex global organizations. Michelle is known for her practical, people-centered approach to risk leadership and for translating complex risk insights into clear, actionable guidance. She is passionate about mentoring emerging leaders and helping organizations move from reactive risk management to proactive, insight-driven decision-making. Show Notes: Risk is often framed as technical work, but at its core, it is deeply human. In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Dr. Hemma Lomax sits down with Michelle Wagner, Head of Internal Audit at DocuSign, to explore how curiosity, empathy, and partnership help organizations manage risk more effectively and build stronger ethical cultures. Michelle shares insights from a career spanning consulting and global leadership roles, reflecting on the moments that shaped her leadership philosophy and the lessons she has learned about influencing without authority, building trust, and helping teams see risks as opportunities to improve rather than problems to avoid. Together, they discuss the evolving role of internal audit, the importance of collaboration across risk functions, and how emerging technologies such as AI can help leaders identify patterns and generate insights while reinforcing the need for human judgment. This conversation is a reminder that great risk leaders don’t just protect organizations — they help them succeed. Episode highlights: Why risk management is fundamentally a leadership discipline Lessons from moving from consulting to executive leadership roles What makes an internal audit function truly valuable How audit, compliance, and business teams can partner effectively The role of curiosity and psychological safety in surfacing risks Michelle’s perspective on AI and the future of risk management Leadership lessons from mentoring and building teams
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Culture Check: Are Your Speak Up Channels Effective? 22.04.2026 30λEver wish you could benchmark your Speak Up channels against more than volume, types of issues raised, and time to close? The Speak Up Self-Assessment (SUSA) was designed to help you go deeper by assessing organizational infrastructure—including reporting channels, confidentiality safeguards, follow-up processes, and governance of whistleblowing systems. In this roundtable episode, we speak with guests: Professor Jessica McManus Warnell Dr. Mary Gentile Allison Narmi about the work they are doing to bring a free, anonymous diagnostic tool to self-assess speak-up channels. Building on the work done in the EU, our guests today are members of the project team that has developed an American version of the tool, with support from the Notre Dame Deloitte Center for Ethical Leadership. Link to the EU version here – https://edhec.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_eleMjkHraHzw6Hk U.S. version coming soon.
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Clarity, Confidence, Results: Women Over 50 at Work 15.04.2026 32λIn this episode, Sarah Hadden and Caveni Wong explore the unique strengths women over 50 bring to today’s workplace—and why those strengths are often overlooked. Drawing on a career that spans consulting, sales, and ethics & compliance leadership, Caveni reflects on the power of experience, the value of judgment and relationship-building, and the kind of leadership that doesn’t rely on title or authority. They talk candidly about nonlinear career paths and what it means to reach a stage where you can choose what’s next with clarity and confidence. Along the way, they find an unexpected metaphor in sourdough bread—patient, resilient, and built over time—much like the careers and capabilities we develop across decades.
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Pretty in Pink: Inside the World of Women Fraudsters 25.03.2026 37λListen in to hear from two renowned fraud experts, Kelly Paxton & Professor Kelly Richmond Pope, talk about pink collar crime: What is it Why it happens How to spot it and What we can do to stop it With our guests, Sarah Hadden and Ellen M. Hunt, explore whether there are differences between women and men fraudsters, what tools are available or may become available in the future to detect fraud before it happens, and whether biases or preconceived stereotypes hinder our ability to prevent and identify pink-collar crime. Hear from two of the most experienced fraud professionals by tuning in on your favorite podcast platform, on Corporate Compliance Insights, and the Compliance Podcast Network.
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SCCE ECEI 2026 - Berlin Highlights 18.03.2026 22λLisa Fine and Ellen Hunt were at the SCCE ECEI in Berlin earlier in March and asked some members of the #GWIC community to share their experiences and insights from the event. They asked people to reflect on something that stood out from the presentations, a takeaway to apply when they return home, and something memorable to them. And, no surprise, the answers were insightful and thought-provoking. Their reflections highlighted themes including the growing importance of behavioral science, third-party risk, and AI, as well as creativity and engaging our audience. Everyone mentioned the sense of community - from conversations over lunch to reconnecting with global peers, both inside and outside the sessions. Whether it was hallway discussions, shared meals, or cultural experiences in Berlin, the conference underscored the energy and innovation that come from the global ethics and compliance community, as well as the meaningful relationships built in person at the event.
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Reflections on Investigations, Culture and the Future 11.03.2026 22λIn this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa Fine speaks with Becky Rohr, Chief Compliance Officer and Head of Investigations at Ericsson. Becky talks about how her career journey led her to join Ericsson during a monitorship to strengthen their investigations function. To do that, she focused on conducting fair, thorough, and efficient investigations, enhancing investigator training, and improving processes for collecting and reviewing digital evidence within a global organization. This led to her being named Chief Compliance Officer at Ericsson and to the benefits of integrating investigations and compliance. Not only did this lead to the continued evolution of their compliance function, but it also connected hotline reports, investigations, and remediation by using creative approaches to reinforcing ethics at Ericcson. Lisa and Becky also discuss how the Ericcson team has addressed workplace misconduct globally, sustaining compliance improvements after a monitorship ends, and the importance of leadership communication in maintaining a strong ethical culture. The conversation also touches on culture change, addressing workplace misconduct globally, and how organizations can sustain strong compliance programs even after regulatory oversight ends. Finally, Becky reflects on her decision to leave Ericsson and take a “power of the pause” moment before deciding on her next chapter—an approach that highlights the value of reflection and intentional career choices.
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Resilience is a Muscle You Can Build 04.03.2026 28λIn this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa Fine talks with Trish Ashman, Senior Director of Ethics & Compliance (AMEA & APAC) at Cushman & Wakefield, about resilience, integrity, and knowing when it’s time to move on. Trish shares her journey from private practice in London to Singapore and into the Ethics and Compliance space. Trish was at Wirecard and then at Twitter, both of which had her working through two major corporate crises – the fraud at Wirecard and the ownership change at Twitter. Trish candidly shares her experiences and lessons learned from both of those roles. At Wirecard, she stayed to support employees during the collapse, focused on fairness and doing what she could to make a difference. At Twitter, after the acquisition dramatically reshaped the company and its compliance function, she considered whether she could still meaningfully influence ethical decision-making and if this role aligned with her values. This episode is an honest conversation about ethics and compliance as a calling, resilience as a muscle, and how these experiences shaped Trish and helped her become resilient and find a role where she would thrive.
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Proof, Patterns & Power: The Real Art of Workplace Investigations 25.02.2026 36λIn this roundtable episode, Sarah Hadden and Ellen M. Hunt explore the real art of workplace investigations with guests Lloydette Bai-Marrow and Onyinye Asala-Olojola through these three lenses: Proof: What evidence do you need to support your finding that not only holds up in a court of law but also withstands scrutiny Patterns: How to connect the dots so that the investigation tells a meaningful story that leads to action Power: How to manage leaders so that the best resolution for the organization is the path forward If you are looking for expert advice on how to increase the value of workplace investigations to your organization, tune in on your favorite podcast platform, on Corporate Compliance Insights, and the Compliance Podcast Network #WorkplaceInvestigations #RootCause #CorrectiveMeasures #Retaliation #EthicalLeadership
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The New Architecture of Legal and Compliance with AI 18.02.2026 47λIn this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Dr. Hemma R. Lomax speaks with Sam Flynn, co-founder of Josef, about the transformation of legal and compliance functions through technology. They discuss the importance of human-centered design, the role of AI in legal architecture, and the need for trust in AI tools. Sam shares his journey from creating Myki Fines to building self-service legal solutions that bridge the access-to-justice gap. The conversation emphasizes the importance of user experience, governance practices, and the need to rethink traditional professional roles in the legal field. Takeaways: Legal and compliance functions must evolve to be more human-centered. AI can significantly enhance legal decision-making processes. Trust in technology is crucial for successful implementation. User experience should be prioritized in legal tech solutions. Automation can free up valuable time for legal professionals. Access to justice is a critical issue that can be addressed with technology. Rethinking traditional roles in law can lead to better outcomes. Data-driven insights can improve compliance practices. Collaboration between experts and end-users is essential for success. Legal technology should focus on delivering real value to users. Sound Bites: "AI should unleash human potential." "Trust is the key to unlocking value." "We need to build trust in our technology." Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Legal Transformation 02:32 The Journey of Sam Flynn and Mickey Finds 05:30 Rethinking Legal Systems and Design 08:10 Substance Over Form in Legal Processes 10:56 The Role of AI in Legal Architecture 13:39 Building a Legal Front Door 16:24 User Experience in Compliance 18:54 Engagement and Data Utilization 21:56 The Future of Legal Workflows 24:29 Deciding Between Automation and Human Input 26:56 Navigating High-Risk Inquiries 27:50 Strategic Automation for Stakeholder Engagement 28:58 The Importance of Human Expertise in AI 30:57 Transforming Fear into Opportunity with AI 32:59 Building Trustworthy AI in Legal Settings 36:56 Governance Practices for AI Deployment 43:51 Access to Justice: Bridging Gaps with Technology Guest Biography: Sam Flynn is the Co-Founder and Chief Operating Officer of Josef, a legal automation platform that empowers legal and compliance teams to create reliable, self-serve tools — no coding required. In his role, Sam leads Josef’s business operations, governance, marketing, and customer success functions, scaling both product impact and organizational trust. An ex-BigLaw litigator and experienced legal technologist, Sam has long been passionate about using technology to bridge the access-to-justice gap and elevate the delivery of legal services. In 2016, he built Myki Fines, a public-facing legal tech solution that attracted more than 60,000 users in its first month and helped catalyze reforms to unfair laws. At Josef, Sam combines legal expertise with product and operational leadership to help teams rethink how legal and compliance work gets done — shifting from inbox-driven bottlenecks to strategic architectures that deliver decision-useful guidance at scale. He is a frequent speaker on generative AI in legal, a board member of the Center for Legal Innovation, and an advocate for human-centered legal design.
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Why Decision Rubrics Matter in the Age of AI with Hemma Lomax and Shalini Rajoo 11.02.2026 57λIn this conversation, GWIC host Dr. Hemma R. Lomax and Shalini Rajoo explore the critical role of decision rubrics in governance, accountability, and trust, especially in the context of AI. Shalini shares her journey from law to compliance, emphasizing the importance of understanding systems and the impact of leadership on decision-making processes. They discuss how transparency and clarity in decision-making can build trust within organizations and the necessity of responsible AI governance. Practical tips for improving decision quality are also provided, highlighting the importance of self-awareness and critical thinking in leadership. Takeaways: The biggest risk in governance is unclear decisions. AI amplifies existing clarity or confusion in decision-making. Systems and rules reflect the identities of their architects. Everyone has an impact on those around them every day. Leadership is about improving the people around you. It's not just about rules; it's about how people behave. Decision rubrics provide consistency and predictability in outcomes. Transparency in decision-making processes builds trust. Slowing down to ask questions can lead to better decision-making. Writing down the reasons for decisions brings clarity and accountability. Sound bites: "Systems and rules are not inherently neutral." "Transparency in decision making builds trust." "Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast." Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Decision Rubrics and Governance 02:55 Shalini's Journey: From Law to Governance 06:09 The Impact of Systems on Leadership and Accountability 09:09 Transitioning to Compliance and Ethics 11:49 Understanding Decision Rubrics in Compliance 15:06 The Role of Leadership in Decision Making 18:03 Designing Conditions for Effective Decision Making 20:47 The Importance of Transparency in Decision Processes 24:09 Decision Rubrics: Building Trust in Organizations 26:49 AI and Governance: Leadership Infrastructure Failures 29:47 Responsible AI: The Role of Ethics and Compliance 32:55 Practical Tips for Improving Decision Quality 36:00 Conclusion: The Future of Decision Making in AI Guest Biography: Shalini Rajoo is the Founder and Principal Consultant of Shalini Rajoo Advisory, LLC, where she partners with organizations to design governance, compliance, and decision-making systems that are resilient, trustworthy, and aligned to real operational pressures. Across more than two decades in law, compliance, HR, and organizational leadership, Shalini has helped companies and leaders move beyond check-the-box frameworks to build structures that embed accountability, clarity, and performance into everyday decisions. She began her career in South Africa, first as a public prosecutor and then leading regulatory work with the Department of Trade and Industry, collaborating with legislative and executive stakeholders on corporate, competition, and consumer law. After relocating to the U.S., Shalini practiced commercial litigation. She later served as Director of Global Business Conduct for a Fortune 500 company, where she redesigned ethics and compliance systems, led global risk assessments, and championed psychological safety and integrity-based practices. Today, Shalini’s work centers on helping leaders clarify decision rights, governance architectures, and accountability pathways — especially as organizations adopt AI and automation. She recently spoke at the Opal Group’s Corporate Governance & Ethics in the Age of AI conference, where she reframed AI governance as a leadership-infrastructure challenge rather than a purely technical or compliance one.
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GWIC 300 - The GWICies 04.02.2026 16λToday is a milestone. It is episode 300, and marks 100 episodes since Hemma joined Lisa as a co-host and Ellen and Sarah made us what we call “Team GWIC.” To recognize this, we go together to recognize some of the individuals and values that define our profession. We highlight some of the amazing people who have supported us and the profession, including culture carriers, change agents, mentors, Great Gentlemen in Compliance, and collaborators and supporters. We also wanted to recognize some true MVPs – those who have stood up at personal and professional risk to strengthen integrity, support whistleblowers, and push the profession forward. It also shines a light on the often-unspoken challenges of ethical decision-making and the consequences that may come from speaking out, including well-being and professional isolation. Their work and stories reaffirm the reasons we do what we do and why we are committed to the mission. We should have an award for the entire GWIC community for your support and for sticking with us. We are excited for what comes next, including new branding, materials, and exciting content.
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A Next-Gen Video of Ethics and Compliance 28.01.2026 30λIn this episode of the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, Lisa Fine and Sarah Hadden (Gen X) are joined by Rebecca Anker and Emily Frank for an engaging conversation on what the next generation needs from ethics and compliance. Rebecca, Gen-Z, and Emily, a millennial, share candid insights shaped by their experiences as part of the emerging workforce. The discussion explores the real-life impact of generational influences—from questioning hierarchy and outdated practices to prioritizing transparency and usability— minimizing the traditional reliance on hierarchy. Rebecca and Emily discuss how the rising stars in the profession are taking the evolution to a collaborative, service-oriented function that partners with the business and clearly explains the why behind policies and decisions to new levels. They also discuss current topics, including creative, shorter training approaches, balancing regulatory requirements with innovation, responsible AI use, and rethinking speak-up programs. They discuss why language matters, why “whistleblower” may no longer resonate, and how normalizing the act of raising concerns can strengthen speak-up culture across generations. The episode wraps with practical advice from Rebecca and Emily for more “seasoned” compliance professionals to stay curious and engage with new voices and ideas. It is exciting to see where they and their peers will take the profession.
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Don’t Freak Out: Compliance from a Prosecutor-Defense Lens 21.01.2026 35λDive into the world of compliance and high-stakes investigations! In this episode of #GWIC, Hemma Lomax talks with Jamie Hoxie Solano, Partner at Dynamis LLP and former federal prosecutor, about how compliance and legal teams can lead with precision when incidents become investigations—especially where cyber risk and digital assets raise the stakes and the speed. We cover: What prosecutors look for when assessing credibility and cooperation The “first 72 hours” of an internal investigation: triage, scope, evidence, and governance Why cyber and digital assets matter in changing the evidence trail and the decision timeline How to protect privilege while still moving fast Practical guidance for cross-functional leadership under pressure Jamie's Bio Jamie Hoxie Solano is a Partner at Dynamis LLP and a former federal prosecutor. She represents individuals and companies in high-stakes matters spanning government and internal investigations, white-collar and regulatory defense, and cybercrime and digital asset disputes. Before returning to private practice, Jamie served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in both the Northern District of Texas and the District of New Jersey, working in units including cybercrime and national security, and serving (among other leadership roles) as the Digital Asset Coordinator for the District of New Jersey. She is also an adjunct professor at Seton Hall Law School, where she teaches Persuasion and Advocacy.
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When Women Speak Up: Gender, Whistleblowing and Retaliation 14.01.2026 39λIn this roundtable episode of the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, Lisa Fine and Ellen Hunt are joined by whistleblower attorney Mary Inman and Professor Kate Kenny from the University of Galway to explore what really happens when women speak up. Drawing on Professor Kenny’s decade-long research on whistleblowing—including recent work with Transparency International—the conversation examines why women whistleblowers often face greater challenges, which deter them from raising concerns or from deciding to leave a job, rather than speaking up. The discussion unpacks how gender stereotypes, gaslighting, and organizational culture shape how concerns are received, and why women are more likely to speak up when strong protections, anonymity, and collective reporting options are in place. Mary Inman adds a practitioner’s perspective, sharing what she sees in real cases and why many women choose to report together rather than go it alone. As Ethics and Compliance practitioners consider how to help people speak up, this episode challenges us to review our programs and make improvements to support anyone raising concerns.
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Both Sides of the Desk: Managing Layoffs & Thriving Through Them 07.01.2026 42λLayoffs, no matter which side of the desk you are on, are one of the most difficult realities of the workplace. Leaders demand empathy, clarity, and responsibility. For employees, they can bring shock, uncertainty, and the need to rebuild. In this episode, Lisa Fina and Ellen Hunt invited Gina Lakatos and Gwen Hassan to explore what it means to manage layoffs with integrity and how individuals can survive and even thrive in the aftermath. Our conversation focused on the human experience of layoffs: the decisions, emotions, mistakes, and opportunities that shape what comes next. 🔍 What We Cover Compassion and clarity matter on both sides of the desk Why the corporate math of layoffs is not a judgment of value or performance How leaders can communicate with clarity, empathy, and respect Acknowledging the emotional impact of layoffs on those who remain Practical strategies for thriving after job loss: mindset, skills, and next steps Layoffs may close one chapter—but they don’t have to define your story. This episode offers insight, empathy, and actionable guidance for navigating one of work’s hardest realities with dignity and resilience.
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