The Credit Clubhouse

Technology, Capital & the Future of CRE with Samir Tejpaul of Madison Realty Capital 01.07.2026 50λ

This episode is presented by ⁠Cardo AI⁠, the operating system for asset-based finance. Curious to see the platform in action? Book a demo to learn more - https://cardoai.com/book-a-demo/.⁠DealCatalyst Homepage⁠ - https://www.dealcatalyst.io/DealCatalyst Events⁠ - https://www.dealcatalyst.io/events⁠Private Credit Club⁠ - https://www.dealcatalyst.io/private-credit-club Listeners can save 10 percent on conference tickets by using the promo code CREDIT at checkout.00:00 - Kicking Off the Episode with Samir Tejpaul02:19 - Samir Tejpaul's evolving perspective on risk and opportunity04:16 - Navigating commercial real estate in the second half of 202608:23 - Why the debt market now sets the tone in CRE12:45 - Bullish on Bay Area, cautious on bifurcated office18:29 - The journey of alternative lending post-GFC26:01 - Innovating in today's competitive debt market29:21 - Data centers: real estate or infrastructure?31:25 - How AI is reshaping office, industrial, and housing37:24 - AI: Enhancing data, not replacing human judgment39:50 - Preparing for equity capitulation and market stability in 202743:23 - Samir Tejpaul's hobbies, leadership, and optimistic future viewSamir Tejpaul, Head of Investments, Madison Realty Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/samir-tejpaul-198bb553/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Transparency, Technology, and the Next Frontier of Private Credit with Altin Kadareja of Cardo AI 25.06.2026 54λ

This episode is presented by ⁠Cardo AI⁠, the operating system for asset-based finance. Curious to see the platform in action? Book a demo to learn more - https://cardoai.com/book-a-demo/.DealCatalyst HomepageDealCatalyst EventsPrivate Credit ClubListeners can save 10 percent on conference tickets by using the promo code CREDIT at checkout.00:00 - Welcome to The Credit Clubhouse with Altin Kadareja02:22 - From Buy-Side Frustration to Founding Cardo AI05:37 - Overcoming Challenges and Gaining Market Trust08:12 - Cardo AI's Role in Private Credit Strategies10:50 - Why Insurers are Investing in Private Credit13:26 - Challenges for GPs Seeking Insurance Capital15:51 - The Industry's Move to Continuous Data Transparency19:19 - A New Structural Dynamic in Credit Markets22:20 - Emerging Asset Classes and Cardo AI's Adaptability25:52 - Technology's Role in Streamlining Private Credit Deals28:47 - Enhancing Valuation Transparency with Technology31:05 - Addressing Regulatory Concerns and Market Stability36:04 - Analyzing the Private Credit Market's Future38:04 - Tangible Applications of AI in Finance Today41:13 - Defining the Future of Work in Finance43:43 - Ensuring Trust and Compliance in Financial AI47:06 - The Backbone of Scaling Private Markets50:08 - Personal Insights and Future Market Outlook54:17 - Thank You for Listening to The Credit ClubhouseAltin Kadareja, Co-founder and CEO, Cardo AI - https://www.linkedin.com/in/altinkadareja/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Specialization Wins: Navigating Today's Credit Markets with Ali Meli of Monachil Capital Partners 19.06.2026 44λ

Visit https://www.dealcatalyst.io/ to see our remaining events in 2026, non-conference opportunities, and much more.Listeners can save 10 percent on conference tickets by using the code CREDIT at checkout.This episode is presented by CARDO AI, the operating systemfor asset-based finance. Visit https://cardoai.com/ to learn more.00:00 - Welcome to The Credit Clubhouse: episode introduction01:53 - Host Todd Anderson welcomes Ali Meli to the show02:21 - Navigating the late stages of the private credit cycle03:28 - Identifying top risk-adjusted opportunities in credit markets05:15 - Outperforming: scale or specialization in private credit?08:02 - Understanding Monachil Capital Partners' niche lending strategy09:48 - Market shift: from direct lending to specialty finance12:15 - Exploring interesting opportunities in asset-based finance13:25- Finding value in under-capitalized specialty finance markets15:11 - Overcoming disadvantages for non-scaled fintech lenders19:20 - The transformative impact of AI on fintech lending19:48 - Rethinking Liquidity Management in Private Credit Funds21:50 - Skepticism on private credit secondary market liquidity26:31 - LP demand: selective allocation in private credit30:39 - Unpacking Underappreciated Trends in Private Credit Markets35:25 - What excites Ali Meli most about lending today37:57 - Concerns about market correction and second-order impacts39:57 - Personal insights and a prediction for the next yearAli Meli, Founder, Monachil Capital Partners - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-meli-92ab33167/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

CLO Awards Series - Private Credit CLOs: Innovation, Expansion, and Opportunity with Monroe Capital 16.06.2026 18λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:28 - Celebrating Monroe Capital's boutique CLO manager awards02:31 - How Monroe Capital balances scale with innovation06:08 - Private credit CLOs: A permanent shift09:05 - Differentiating private credit CLOs and investor preferences12:15 - Middle market loan resilience14:27 - Seth Friedman's hobbies, books, and future predictionsSeth Friedman, Managing Director, Head of Structured Solutions, Monroe Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/seth-friedman-4943432/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Back to Basics: The Core Middle Market with Aaron Kless of Andalusian Credit Partners 11.06.2026 35λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - Introducing Aaron Kless and The Credit Clubhouse episode01:57 - The core middle market opportunity05:10 - The growing importance of covenants in private credit07:33 - Differentiating through sports finance as an asset class13:04 - Navigating legislative uncertainty in collegiate sports finance15:46 - Investing in media & entertainment's evolving landscape19:54 - Assessing stress in software lending and consumer health21:49 - Scaling credit with discipline24:15 - Addressing misconceptions and educating private credit investors27:14 - AI's impact on entrepreneurialism and middle market growth29:53 - The need for a private credit terminology refresh31:45 - Personal insights and future predictions for private credit35:25 - Thank you for listening to The Credit ClubhouseAaron Kless, CEO & CIO, Andalusian Credit Partners - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-kless/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Private Credit Plus with Kanav Kalia of Oxane Partners 04.06.2026 45λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 – Welcoming Kanav Kalia of Oxane Partners to discuss the evolution of private credit markets.01:30 – Why private credit feels different in 202603:00 – The Rise of “Private Credit Plus”04:00 – What’s driving the expansion beyond direct lending06:00 – Why asset-based finance is scaling fast08:00 – Back to First Principles: it’s still lending11:00 – Data, surveillance & operational complexity in private credit14:30 – AI’s growing role across credit markets18:00 – Real-world AI use cases for credit investors22:00 – Banks, private credit & the new ecosystem26:00 – Where investors are finding opportunity today30:00 – The future of private credit infrastructure & technologyKanav Kalia, Chief Sales & Marketing Officer, Oxane Partners - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaliakanav/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Democratizing liquidity in private markets with Khalil Hibri of Tangible 29.05.2026 45λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:01:31 — Introducing Tangible and the mission to democratize liquidity00:02:10 — Why individual investors need secondary market access00:05:15 — Bringing technology and standardization to private market transactions00:08:10 — The rise of smaller NAV loans in private markets00:10:00 — Building the operational infrastructure for NAV lending00:13:00 — Liquidity demand across private equity, venture, and credit funds00:17:00 — How embedded secondary markets reduce risk for NAV lenders00:21:30 — Responsible use of NAV lending and market discipline00:25:00 — Competitive price discovery and LP best execution00:29:30 — Why LP transactions are moving toward digital platforms00:33:30 — Overcoming the stigma around secondary sales and fund-level liquidity00:40:30 — Career lessons, global experience, and final reflectionsKhalil Hibri, Founder and Managing Partner, Tangible - https://www.linkedin.com/in/khalilhibri/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

NAV Lending Moves Down Market with Tim Ivers & Dan Nolan of Warana Capital 21.05.2026 43λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 – Introduction & the state of NAV lending03:00 – NAV lending’s shift toward the middle market07:00 – The evolution of NAV loan use cases10:00 – A breakdown of buyout, venture, growth equity, infrastructure, and private credit strategies—and how underwriting differs across each.14:00 – How documentation, loan structures, and lender expectations have matured as the market scales.18:00 – Why early LP engagement and clearer governance around NAV facilities are becoming increasingly important.22:00 – The operational realities of underwriting fund structures, collateral packages, and bespoke financing solutions.26:00 – Capital calls, liquidity pressure & bridging solutions30:00 – Regulatory risk, leverage levels & market hype35:00 – Best practices for GPs + closing personal insightsTim Ivers, CEO, Warana Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-ivers-28317412/Dan Nolan, Managing Director - Head of Origination, Warana Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-nolan-2626a341/NAV Lending Whitepaper - Warana Capital LLCTodd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

TCC Live Series - Benchmarking Private Credit with S&P Dow Jones Indices and Lincoln International 14.05.2026 37λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - Kicking Off: Welcome to the Clubhouse and Guest Introductions02:36 - Unpacking the S&P Lincoln Senior Debt Index: What It Is and Why Now06:39 - Addressing Opacity: The Critical Need for Private Credit Benchmarking09:58 - LP Reactions, Asset-Level Data, and the Index's Future Evolution16:36 - Comparing Private and Public Markets: The Enduring Liquidity Premium21:21 - The Democratization of Private Credit and Retail Investor Education25:54 - Navigating Competing Benchmarks and Identifying the Market's Biggest Unlock31:33 - Fun Facts, Future Predictions, and Podcast ConclusionEszter Hauber, Director, S&P Dow Jones Indices - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eszterhauber/Brian Garfield, Global Head of Portfolio Valuations, Lincoln International - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-garfield-asa-cfa-49290813/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

TCC Live Series - Liquidity, Leverage & IRR: The Borrower’s Toolkit in Fund Finance with Dina Kook of Monroe Capital 06.05.2026 25λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - Welcome to The Credit Clubhouse with Dina Kook of Monroe Capital01:57 - Assessing today's borrower and lender fund finance market06:00 - Dina Kook's lender-to-borrower insight and Monroe's differentiation09:22 - Monroe Capital's core borrowing objectives and product utilization13:17 - Increased LP transparency and diverse investor participation in fund finance16:25 - The natural progression of fund finance market convergence18:33 - The future of fund finance: non-banks, AI, and the human element21:25 - Personal insights, hobbies, and a 12-month market prediction25:09 - Thank you for listening to The Credit Clubhouse PodcastDina Kook, Managing Director, Head of Fund Finance, Co-Head of New York Office, Monroe Capital -https://www.linkedin.com/in/dinakook/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

TCC Live Series: Fraud, Covenants & Course Correction in Direct Lending with Tom Quinn of 9fin 04.05.2026 31λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - Kicking off with market status and sponsor insights02:35 - Unpacking private credit's crisis and investor responses04:56 - Getting to know 9fin's private credit reporter06:02 - Understanding redemption requests and semi-liquid funds07:45 - Analyzing credit blow-ups and loosening of underwriting standards12:00 - Exploring AI's uncertainty across tech and other industries14:24 - How fraud cases are reshaping market standards and docs19:43 - The push for transparency and secondary market challenges22:52 - Uncovering overlooked issues and hidden distress in credit26:34 - Predicting the next 3 - 4 years in private credit markets28:44 - Quick takes and personal insights with Tom Quinn31:06 - Wrapping up Tom Quinn, Reporter, 9fin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tmichaelquinn/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

The Credit Convergence Happening in Plain Sight with Jeff Hobbs of Voya Investment Management 30.04.2026 49λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.Jeffrey Hobbs, Chief Investment Officer - Fixed Income, Voya Investment Management - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-hobbs-03b93712/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Kroll StepStone Partnership Brings Transparency to Private Markets 23.04.2026 32λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.Tod Trabocco, Head of Private Debt Advisory, StepStone Private Debt - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tod-trabocco-cfa-9a122a/Nino Nicotra, Director - Private Capital Markets, Kroll - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nino-nicotra-5906515/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Structured Capital in Focus: Flexibility in a Changing Market with Patrick Turner of VSS Capital Partners 17.04.2026 29λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 – Welcome to the Credit Clubhouse, show setup, and listener promotion.02:45 – Background on Patrick Turner and the firm’s history in structured capital.05:30 – What structured capital means in practice and how it differs from traditional lending.08:15 – How the market has developed and where structured solutions fit.11:00 – Why flexible capital solutions are increasingly important for sponsors.13:45 – Use Cases & Deal Structures16:30 – How VSS approaches underwriting, risk, and capital preservation.19:15 – Discussion of today’s credit conditions, volatility, and opportunity set.22:00 – Investor Demand & Capital Flows25:30 – Outlook for Structured Capital & Closing ThoughtsPatrick Turner, Partner and Senior Managing Director, VSS Capital Partners - https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-turner-1331b91a/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Filling the Credit Gap: ABF & the Lower Middle Market with Clark Briner at Revere Capital 10.04.2026 29λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - The Credit Clubhouse: Welcome and Clark Briner Introduction01:55 - Founding Revere Capital: Addressing Lower Middle Market Gaps05:07 - The Evolving Definition of the Lower Middle Market06:45 - Lessons from 20 Years: Structure Matters in Lending08:14 - Revere Capital's Discipline: Avoiding Style Drift09:54 - Navigating Liquidity, Duration, and LP Education Gaps12:50 - Exploring Mispriced Opportunities in Specialty Finance14:16 - Prioritizing Structural Alpha Over Cyclical Opportunities15:17 - Understanding Direct Lending's Impact on Asset-Backed Finance17:29 - LP Shift to Risk and Credit Market Convergence19:47 - Leveraging Data and AI for Scaling Credit Platforms22:54 - Investment Pitfalls: Avoiding Market Bailout Reliance24:17 - Hobby, Superpower, and a Must-Read Negotiation Book25:59 - The Significant Economic Impact of Non-Bank Lenders27:25 - Clark Briner's Prediction for the Next 12 Months28:17 - Thank You for Listening to The Credit ClubhouseClark Briner, Founder & Principal - https://www.linkedin.com/in/clarkbriner/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

E57 - Navigating Liquidity in Private Equity with Yann Robard of Dawson Partners 03.04.2026 39λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00:11 – Welcome to the Credit Clubhouse with Yann Robard 00:00:46 – Yann’s Journey: From CPPIB to Founding Dawson Partners 00:02:05 – The Idea Behind Dawson: Better Liquidity Solutions for Private Equity 00:03:54 – Dawson Today & How Private Markets Have Evolved 00:04:18 – Dawson’s Four Pillars: Tech, Innovation, Scale & Culture 00:08:36 – Maintaining Culture While Scaling to 250 People 00:14:09 – Private Equity Outlook: Performance, Challenges & Governance Edge 00:21:52 – Private Equity vs Private Credit & The Rise of Secondaries 00:28:56 – GP-Led Continuation Vehicles & Future of Secondaries 00:34:31 – Fun Wrap-Up: Hobbies, Surprises & Biggest Opportunities AheadYann Robard. Managing Partner at Dawson Partners - https://www.linkedin.com/in/yann-robard-84b07b109/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

E56 - Trust but Verify: Fraud & Counterparty Risk with Fulcrum Diligence 27.03.2026 49λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - Kicking Off: Welcome to The Credit Clubhouse & Sponsor Messages01:31 - Russell Corn on Founding Fulcrum Diligence and Objective Research05:38 - James Devey Details the Patrick James First Brands Investigation13:28 - Why Private Credit Funds Miss Red Flags in Due Diligence20:03 - Balancing Privacy and Transparency in Commercial Dealings26:43 - Why Traditional Due Diligence Often Fails to Uncover Fraud35:44 - The Double-Edged Sword of AI in Due Diligence Investigations41:59 - How Uncovering Fraud Shapes Private Credit Markets44:25 - Guests Share Personal Insights and Final PredictionsRussell Corn, CEO, Fulcrum Diligence - https://www.linkedin.com/in/russell-c-2b6218b/James Devey, Senior Analyst, Fulcrum Diligence - https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-devey-42a879252/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

E55 - Separating Signal from Noise in Direct Lending with David Robbins of StepStone 21.03.2026 33λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams. Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - Introducing David Robbins and StepStone Group's Role02:44 - Separating Signal from Noise in Private Credit Headlines05:10 - Why Private Credit's Growth Attracts Scrutiny07:27 - The Push for Retail Access to Private Markets10:13 - Assessing Risk and Volatility in Private Credit13:31 - How Asset Managers Address Private Credit Critiques16:31 - Diversifying Beyond Sector in Private Credit Portfolios21:12 - Distinguishing Macro Trends from Media Sensationalism25:22 - The Critical Role of Education in Private Markets29:59 - David Robbins' Personal Insights and Predictions32:31 - Closing Remarks and Deal Catalyst InformationDavid Robbins, Director, StepStone Group - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidarobbins1/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

E54 - A No Good Very Bad Week for Direct Lending 14.03.2026 27λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - Welcome to the Clubhouse: Special Offers & Sponsor01:31 - Unpacking the 'No Good, Very Bad Week' for Direct Lending04:34 - Understanding Redemption Requests and the Investor Education Gap08:47 - AI's Unknown Impact and JP Morgan's Lending Restrictions11:40 - Navigating Fraud, Strong Returns, and Retail Investor Influx16:00 - Apollo's Daily NAV Push and Declining Retail Inflows19:57 - Future Outlook for Direct Lending and Institutional Confidence24:41 - The Broader Private Credit Market & Upcoming EventsTodd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

E53: Everything Is a Portfolio: Asset-Based Finance with Joel Holsinger of Ares 06.03.2026 46λ

This episode is presented by 9fin. The AI-native platform for modern credit teams.Head to https://www.9fin.com/demo to request a 30-minute personalised demonstration.00:00 - The Credit Clubhouse: Episode Introduction and Sponsor Spotlight01:31 - Joel Holsinger Defines Asset-Based Finance at Ares02:16 - Joel Holsinger's Core Definition of Asset-Based Finance03:18 - Key Drivers Behind Asset-Based Finance's Institutional Embrace06:44 - Attracting LPs: Insurance and Non-Insurance Capital in ABF10:20 - Trade-offs Between Captive and Flexible Investment Approaches12:57 - Good and Bad Innovations in Fund Structures and Market Risks18:16 - Viewing Fund Finance as a Sub-Segment of Asset-Based Finance22:15 - The Expansion of NAV Lending and Secondary Market Liquidity26:11 - Why Markets Are More Resilient: Less Systematic Risk Today32:09 - Joel Holsinger's Personal Journey to Promote Giving35:31 - Ares' Initiative: Compounding Purpose Through Philanthropy40:05 - Joel Holsinger's Sports, Hobbies, and Life Philosophy42:28 - Market Prediction and Strong Skepticism on Cryptocurrency Value45:29 - Thank You for Listening to The Credit Clubhouse PodcastJoel Holsinger, Co-Head of Ares Alternative Credit, Ares Management - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-holsinger-0739a74/Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast