Christ In All Things
Pastors Lance O'Donnell and Jason Schockman
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Christ In All Things is a Christian podcast hosted by pastors Lance O'Donnell and Jason Schockman. The show focuses on the everyday stories of ordinary people and how faith and the Gospel intersect with their lives. The hosts aim to listen to the fascinating narratives that are often overlooked, while taking God seriously but not themselves too seriously. With humor, honesty, and occasional bleeped moments, they celebrate the uncommon moments animated by the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Liturgy and the American Teenager part 2 02.08.2026 33λOur guest, Rev. Allen Strawn, has a unique perspective as the pastor serving Calvary Lutheran Chapel on the campus of the University of Wisconsin - Madison. He regularly interacts with students from a wide range of liturgical backgrounds and shares with us what he has observed, and how a historic, consistent, Scripture based (particularly sung) liturgy is meaningful in their faith formation and expression. -
Liturgy and the American Teenager part 1 01.08.2026 29λOur guest, Rev. Allen Strawn, has a unique perspective as the pastor serving Calvary Lutheran Chapel on the campus of the University of Wisconsin - Madison. He regularly interacts with students from a wide range of liturgical backgrounds and shares with us what he has observed, and how a historic, consistent, Scripture based (particularly sung) liturgy is meaningful in their faith formation and expression. -
St. Paul's Young Adult Mission Education Experience Debrief part 2 05.07.2026 33λWe sat down with the team of young adults that just returned from the Dominican Republic. They went to visit our missionary partners for a mission education experience. This conversation really just touches the surface of what they experienced, Listen for how what they learned and experienced as they saw the gospel proclaimed shaped them, and will continue to stay with them even as they've returned home. -
St. Paul's Young Adult Mission Education Experience Debrief 04.07.2026 29λWe sat down with the team of young adults that just returned from the Dominican Republic. They went to visit our missionary partners for a mission education experience. This conversation really just touches the surface of what they experienced, Listen for how what they learned and experienced as they saw the gospel proclaimed shaped them, and will continue to stay with them even as they've returned home. -
Don and Karen Meyer Part 2 REPOSTED from our first season of Christ in All Things 21.06.2026 23λThis is “Part 2” of our interview with Don and Karen Meyer.June is “Biblical Marriage Month” at St. Paul’s. It is a celebration of God’s design for marriage, even as it is lived out in the brokenness of this world. Christ is “in all things.” (Col 1.17) He is in marriages that are thriving, and in marriages that are struggling. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” (John 10:27, ESV) Christ’s call is to follow, and since—per Ephesians 5—the marriage of Christ and His Church is the true marriage, we all have a vested interest in helping God’s design for marriage be known and practiced. Being a Christian family is about forgiving as we have been forgiven by Christ, and about growing in faith, hope, and love. -
Don and Karen Meyer. REPOSTED from our first season on Christ in All Things 20.06.2026 31λJune is “Biblical Marriage Month” at St. Paul’s. It is a celebration of God’s design for marriage, even as it is lived out in the brokenness of this world. Christ is “in all things.” (Col 1.17) He is in marriages that are thriving, and in marriages that are struggling. He says, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” (John 10:27, ESV) Christ’s call is to follow, and since—per Ephesians 5—the marriage of Christ and His Church is the true marriage, we all have a vested interest in helping God’s design for marriage be known and practiced. Being a Christian family is about forgiving as we have been forgiven by Christ, and about growing in faith, hope, and love.In this episode of Christ In All Things we interview Don and Karen Meyer. Don and Karen are outgoing members of St. Paul’s “Marriage Ministry Team.” We learned a lot from Don and Karen about how God is at work in their lives, and they learned some things about one another. -
Biblical Marriage Month: Remembering Marcus and Carolyn Pankow part 2 07.06.2026 33λCelebrating Biblical Marriage Month, several members of the St. Paul's Marriage Ministry team gathered to remember one of the founding couples of the St. Paul's Marriage Ministry Team. This is part 2 of that conversation. Marcus and Carolyn Pankow served the church for most of their lives. Marcus as a teacher and Principal, Carolyn from the organ bench on Sunday mornings. They both left a deep and lasting impact in our life together at St. Paul's. It seemed good to us take some time to remember and rejoice in the example the Lord of Love gave us in Marcus and Carolyn Pankow. -
Biblical Marriage Month: Remembering Marcus and Carolyn Pankow part 1 06.06.2026 30λCelebrating Biblical Marriage Month, several members of the St. Paul's Marriage Ministry team gathered to remember one of the founding couples of the St. Paul's Marriage Ministry Team. Marcus and Carolyn Pankow served the church for most of their lives. Marcus as a teacher and Principal, Carolyn from the organ bench on Sunday mornings. They both left a deep and lasting impact in our life together at St. Paul's. It seemed good to us take some time to remember and rejoice in the example the Lord of Love gave us in Marcus and Carolyn Pankow. -
Margie Hertneky part 2 17.05.2026 30λMeet Margie Hertneky, who this year completes 42 years of teaching in Lutheran Schools, the last 32 here at St. Paul's Lutheran School, Oconomowoc WI. As Margie prepares to retire at the end of the school year, we couldn't think of a better interview to share with you listeners. This "warrior pearl" has shares what she's learned from her students and how Christ in all things has been shaping her. -
Margie Louise Hertneky part 1 16.05.2026 28λMeet Margie Hertneky, who this year completes 42 years of teaching in Lutheran Schools, the last 32 here at St. Paul's Lutheran School, Oconomowoc WI. As Margie prepares to retire at the end of the school year, we couldn't think of a better interview to share with you listeners. This "warrior pearl" has shares what she's learned from her students and how Christ in all things has been shaping her. -
"One Baptism" and Confirmation 02.05.2026 32λAt St. Paul’s the first Lord’s Day in May is “Confirmation.” In this episode we talk about what confirmation is for Lutherans. We address the questions asked—and promises made—in confirmation. As listeners will hear, there is a deep connection between the third article of The Nicene Creed and Baptism. In the Nicene Creed we confess, “. . . And I believe in one holy Christian and apostolic Church, I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins. . .” In the Rite of Confirmation, the pastor asks, “Do you this day in the presence of God and of this congregation acknowledge the gifts that God gave you in your Baptism?” What do those things mean? What do they have to do with one another? What are those being confirmed actually confessing and promising when they are confirmed?Recorded 29 April, 2026 -
Liturgy and Evangelism, a Conversation 19.04.2026 43λBuckle up. This might be the most important episode we've recorded in three seasons of Christ In All Things. “’Liturgy and Evangelism,’ a Conversation” is deeply theological and personal for both pastors here. It’s about being lost and being found by Christ. The conversation flows from “Liturgy and Evangelism” by Dr. Kurt Marquardt (Please listen to the previous episode for the full reading of that essay.). We make application to the life of the Church in general and at St. Paul’s. We pray that reflecting on this essay will be as challenging—and as enlightening—for you as it was for the pastors involved here. We think you’ll hear that in spades.For the text of Dr. Marquardt’s essay, see “Liturgy and Evangelism” in Lutheran Worship: History and Practice (St. Louis, CPH, 1993) 58-76.Recorded 6 February, 2026 -
Liturgy and Evangelism by Dr. Kurt Marquardt 18.04.2026 1ώ 6λWelcome to “Liturgy and Evangelism by Dr. Kurt Marquardt.” In this episode you’ll hear a personal introduction to the late +Rev. Dr. Kurt Marquard+ by Pastor Lance O’Donnell, which became—much to his surprise—a deeply emotional live-mic moment. We decided to leave it because it helps provide a sense of the man who wrote the essay that so faithfully and clearly explains why a consistent, Scripture-based order of service or “liturgy”—especially sung liturgy—is best not only for Christian faith formation, but for evangelism. This episode has the introduction and the essay. The next episode, “’Liturgy and Evangelism,’ a Conversation,” provides deeper personal and churchly reflection. We encourage you to listen to both.For the text of Dr. Marquardt’s essay, see “Liturgy and Evangelism” in Lutheran Worship: History and Practice (St. Louis, CPH, 1993) 58-76. Used by permission. Copyright 1993. Concordia Publishing House. CPH.org. All rights reserved.Recorded 6 February, 2026 -
Meet Rev. Dr. Ross Shaver. Part 2 05.04.2026 34λWhat a joy it was to talk with Ross Shaver! In Part 2 of this interview, which was recorded shortly before the Shavers deployed for their missionary work in the Dominican Republic. This episode is really an extended discussion of pastoral and missionary formation. It is an insight into the unique ways Christ forms men for the work to which He calls them. We also have a fascinating discussion about Christian education and what Dr. Shaver has learned, both from his youth and the education of his family, about how best to educate humans. There’s a fruitful discussion of the classical model and how model can—and should—be considered by modern Christians.Recorded 5 April, A.D. 2024 -
Meet Rev. Dr. Ross Shaver. Part 1 04.04.2026 31λRev. Dr. Ross Patrick Shaver is a missionary and theological educator with the Dominican Republic Lutheran Mission. We, at Christ In All Things, have had this in the hopper for some time and are pleased to finally publish it. This episode was recorded just before he and his family deployed to the mission field. As you’ll hear, Dr. Shaver was deeply impacted by a faithful Christian upbringing, by his marriage and parish life, and by his special path to fatherhood. By virtue of his family upbringing, you’ll hear a fascinating correspondence between things that Al and Kathy Mueller talked about in our conversation about what they learned by moving. As a congregation that has a deep history of support for the Lutheran mission in the Dominican Republic, it is our delight to have more personal connections with that mission.Recorded 5 April, A.D. 2024 -
Meet Al Mueller. Part 2 22.03.2026 31λWelcome to Part 2 of our interview with Alfred Paul “Al” Mueller. This episode continues the previous discussion about servant leadership; in particular, about Al’s parents and family. You’ll hear a classic “Al and Kathy” courtship story. You’ll hear some beautiful reflections about the Mueller’s family joy in service. You’ll hear some faithful advice about how to become part of a congregational family when you move, and you’ll hear a really beautiful golf story that isn’t so much about golf, but about service; that is, about Christ In All Things.Recorded 6 March, A.D. 2026 -
Meet Al Mueller. Part 1 21.03.2026 28λBack in the day at St. Paul’s, Alfred Paul “Al” Mueller was known for giving “a little elbow” to someone who ran the baseline too vigorously in the men’s pick-up basketball games. You’ll find a different Al in this interview: gentle, deeply thoughtful, thankful, at rest of soul in Christ. A couple weeks back listeners heard from Al’s effervescent wife, Kathy. Here you’ll find a man deeply thankful for the lessons in servant-leadership he learned from his boyhood that impacted everything about his life.Recorded 6 March, A.D. 2026 -
Meet Kathy Jane Mueller. Part 2 08.03.2026 32λPart 2 of our interview with Kathy Jane Mueller centers in the importance of worship in the Christian life. Kathy—in her own charitable and humorous way—helps us understand how following Christ into active participation in the congregation is important. As Kathy notes, when you make yourself available, the Lord will send someone in your path to welcome you and make you feel at home and include you, and it will strengthen your faith. Kathy points out that each of us “have gifts to give. And if you don’t come, you can’t give the gift.” As the conversation continues, you’ll hear a beautiful reflection on what it means to be part of a christian congregation, which is the family of God.Recorded 26 February, A.D. 2026 -
Meet Kathy Jane Mueller. Part 1 07.03.2026 31λListeners might remember Kathy Jane Mueller from episodes 94-95, when she sat alongside her mother, Ruth Polcha, for her Christ In All Things interview. We’re very excited to have Kathy back to talk about her own journey in Christ. As you will hear, Kathy blends a great reverence for Christ, a love of His Church, true honor for her family, and a terrific sense of humor. Recorded 26 February, A.D. 2026 -
The Salutation is NOT a Holy Howdy. Part 2 22.02.2026 38λWelcome to Part 2 of “The Salutation is Not a Holy Howdy.” As our guest, Rev. Dr. Timothy Quill notes, when—as a pastoral greeting—The Salutation is given, “the knot of love between pastor and people is strengthened.” We speak about how and when the pastor is to speak The Salutation, and we move from there into a broader conversation about different aspects of the liturgy, the pastor’s conduct of the liturgy, and the evangelical and missiological power of liturgical hospitality.Recorded 29 January, A.D. 2026
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