The Terrible Creative

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  Before Episode 081 08.09.2026 12λ

  Dear Terrible Friends,This episode is going to be a little different. I wanted to let you know that I'm going to be taking a little bit of a break for a bit. I’m actually about to leave (in a few days) for a three-week trip with my daughter. We’re going to bounce around the East Coast a little bit. Spending some time around the mountains of Virginia, then DC, then Philly, NYC, Boston then into the sticks of New England. By the way, if you’re in those areas, and want to grab coffee or a beer, let me know. I can try to make it work. I would love to meet some people.But yeah, I’m going to take some pictures actually. I’m bringing my camera, with one 35mm lens and make some stuff and to document our trip obviously. And beyond that, I’m going to catch up on some reading. I’m going to think a lot. I’m probably going to write some things down that turn out to be completely stupid and irrelevant later.And rather than frantically making a bunch of episodes before I leave so there’s something sitting in your podcast feed, I’m just… not going to do that.But really though, I’m going to start figuring out what the next version of The Terrible Creative looks like.I don’t know exactly what that is yet. And I actually think that’s a good thing.I’m not announcing a new season. I’m not making some grand promise about what happens next. I don’t even know exactly when I’ll be back.  I just know that after 80 episodes, I want episode 81 to feel like we’re going somewhere.But before I go, I really do want to say thank you.There are some of you who have been listening to this weird little project since the beginning. That was April of 2025.Some of you listen every week. You’ve sent me emails. You’ve shared episodes with people. You’ve bought the book. Some of you have even supported this show with your own hard-earned money.And I don’t take any of that lightly.The fact that I can make something like this, put it out into the world, and there are actual people on the other side who choose to spend part of their day listening to me is still kind of incredible to me.So to everybody who has listened to any of these first 80 episodes, and especially those of you who have stuck around through all the different versions of this thing…Thank you.Follow me at the links below. Email me, DM me and check in. I would love to hear from you.So until...I come back with Episode 81, I will see you later, whenever later is.PatrickThe Book Lessons From a Terrible PhotographerThe Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Worth - Why Great Photographers Get $600 Clients 01.09.2026 1ώ 2λ

  Episode 80 — WorthPhotographers love telling each other to “know your worth.”Okay. What’s mine?One client trusts you with a production worth tens of thousands of dollars. Another pays you a few hundred bucks and tells you that you didn’t do a very good job.Same photographer. Same experience. Same eye.In this episode, I’m trying to figure out what those numbers actually mean. We talk about day rates, lowball inquiries, why better photography isn’t always more valuable to the person buying it, and what happens when we take economic information from the market and turn it into a judgment about our work—or ourselves.Because maybe the estimate tells us something useful about the business.But I’m not sure our worth has any business being on it.Featured clip: Moneyball — used in Act Three as we get into how markets assign value, what they measure, and what they sometimes miss.Handshake music: Instrumental version of “Take On Me” — a small nod to entering the 80s.Episode artwork: Photograph by César Rincón.ResourcesThe Book Lessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Show terriblephotographer.com/supportStay Connected Subscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Photography - The Voice - What Do You Actually Want To Make? - Part Three 25.08.2026 41λ

  You can buy the camera. You can learn the lighting. You can spend years mastering the technical side of photography until the camera finally gets out of the way.Then comes the harder question: What do you actually want to photograph?In the final episode of Photography: Gear, Craft & Voice, I’m talking about what happens when technical competence is no longer the problem—and you’re left alone with your own ideas, or the uncomfortable lack of them.We’ll talk about creative avoidance, why inspiration so easily turns into imitation, the strange difficulty of making work nobody asked for, and why your voice may have less to do with developing a “style” than paying attention to the things you can’t stop thinking about.Because eventually, the question stops being whether you know how to make the photograph.It becomes: What do you actually care about?ResourcesAPA (Advertising Photographers of America) Find your local chapter at apanational.orgThe Book Lessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Show terriblephotographer.com/supportStay Connected Subscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Photography - The Gear, The Craft, and The Voice - Part Two 18.08.2026 47λ

  There is a quiet, infuriating moment every creator faces: looking at the LCD screen and realizing the image in front of you isn't even in the same conversation as the one living in your head.In Part Two of our series on Gear, Craft & Voice, Patrick Fore breaks down what it actually takes to close the gap between imagination and execution. From late-night isolation sessions trying to light reflective acoustic guitars to nearly blowing a high-stakes commercial architecture shoot by blindly following an online tutorial, this episode explores the unglamorous reality of building instinct.We look at why repetition without an audit is useless, how recipes differ from underlying principles, and the dangerous trap waiting for you at the top of technical execution.Key TakeawaysThe Comparison Ritual: How placing your raw work side-by-side with a target image strips away ego and isolates the only question that matters: "What's different?"The Audit Over Mindless Reps: Putting in "ten thousand hours" doesn't teach you anything if you aren't changing one variable at a time and auditing the result.Practice Without an Institutional Studio: You don't need five-figure gear or a commercial space to learn light. A kitchen mug, a single desk lamp, and a piece of foam board obey the exact same laws of physics.Recipes vs. Principles: Recipes sell certainty by encoding someone else’s controlled environment. Principles give you the framework to solve unfamiliar problems under live client pressure.The Dark Side of Craft: Technical capacity answers how, but it never touches why. Flawless execution can easily become a comfortable, expensive hiding place.ResourcesThe Book Lessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Show terriblephotographer.com/supportStay Connected Subscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Photography - The Gear, The Craft, and The Voice - Part One 11.08.2026 40λ

  Photography: The Gear, The Craft &  The Voice — Part OneEvery photographer inherits a definition of good before they've earned one. This episode is about where that definition actually comes from, why gear ends up being the evidence of it, and why the real question was never which camera to buy.Patrick walks through camera store tribalism, the teachers nobody asks to have (YouTubers, algorithms, magazines, the guy at the counter), a British portrait photographer who rewired how he thought about images during a COVID-era Clubhouse call, a viral coffee photo he's since made peace with, and why he was wrong to blame Canon for any of it. First of a three-part series on gear, craft, and voice.In this episode:The quiet neurosis of buying a new camera, and the specific lie it tells youWhy brand loyalty (Canon vs. Sony vs. Fuji vs. Leica) is never really about the gearThe trend history nobody wants to own: shallow depth of field, HDR, orange and teal, drone reveals, LUTs, AI skinTom Hoops and the conversations that happened on Clubhouse during lockdownA photo Patrick made that went semi-viral, and what he now understands about whyWhy "gear doesn't matter" and "gear matters" are both the wrong questionWhat actually changed his relationship to his own cameras, four to five years in the makingMentioned in this episode:Tom Hoops, portrait photographer — tomhoops.com / @tomhoops on InstagramPeter McKinnon — YouTubeCasey Neistat — YouTubeJared Polin (FroKnowsPhoto) — YouTubeResourcesAPA (Advertising Photographers of America) Find your local chapter at apanational.orgThe Book Lessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Show terriblephotographer.com/supportStay Connected Subscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Creep - You don't need a harder no. You need a better sentence. 04.08.2026 49λ

  A client says "we love these." Then they ask for more images, for the same money, and call it a collaboration. This episode is about what that word is actually doing to you, why the moment feels impossible to say no to, and why the fix was never confidence. It was having the sentence ready before you needed it.In this episodePatrick breaks down the psychology behind scope creep and the "collaboration" ask, drawing on Dan Ariely's market norms vs. social norms, the classic foot-in-the-door effect, and a scene from The Negotiator that changed how he thinks about saying no. Along the way: four types of clients who are all testing the same thing without knowing it, why a rigid system is actually what makes generosity possible, and why bringing up your contract after the shoot has already happened means something already went wrong.The three lines to saveThese are built to do the same three things every time: validate the ask, protect the scope, offer a real next step. Swap in your own numbers and your own voice, the shape is what matters, not the exact wording.At the proposal, before anything's shot: "We'll lock down these five hero shots. If we spot extra opportunities on the day, I'm happy to grab them, we'll just treat those as separate add-ons so it doesn't mess with today's scope."On set, when the ask shows up live: "Love that shot idea. Let's finish our main list first so we hit our schedule, and then I'll pull together a quick add-on price for the extras before we wrap."After delivery, when the compliment arrives with a bigger ask behind it: "I'm so glad the set landed. If you want to expand delivery to twenty images, I can open up the rest of the gallery for an extra [your rate]."Is it a real collaboration? The three-part testBefore you say yes to a trade instead of a fee, check for all three:Named upfront. Offered before the work happens, not as a consolation after the client can't hit their own number.Specific. Which posts, tagged how, to how many actual followers, not "some exposure."Reciprocal. Both sides chose it on purpose, not one side discovering it after delivery.If it shows up after the invoice as a replacement for the invoice, it's not a trade. It's the same ask wearing a nicer word.Referenced in this episodeDan Ariely, Predictably Irrational (market norms vs. social norms)Freedman & Fraser, 1966, the original foot-in-the-door compliance studyThe Negotiator (1998), starring Samuel L. Jackson and Kevin Spacey, "never say no to a hostage-taker" scene. ResourcesAPA (Advertising Photographers of America) Find your local chapter at apanational.orgThe Book Lessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Show terriblephotographer.com/supportStay Connected Subscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  The Audit Part II - The Soul of the C-Stand - What does competence actually look like? 28.07.2026 49λ

  A lot of photographers assume it’s your portfolio. Your lighting. Your gear. Maybe your day rate.I’m not so sure anymore.A few weeks ago I spent three and a half days photographing hardware products in a twelve-by-fifteen room. White seamless. Capture One. Cardboard boxes. SKU spreadsheets. The kind of commercial job nobody posts on Instagram because it isn’t glamorous enough to be interesting.On the drive home after the third day, I got rear-ended sitting on the on-ramp of Interstate 15.The next morning I still had one day left to shoot, but my back had other plans.That experience forced me to rethink something I’ve been saying for years about professionalism, leadership, pricing, and what clients are actually paying us for.This episode is the follow-up to Episode 56, The Audit. That episode asked whether our work was replaceable. This one asks a different question:Are we?Along the way we talk about Photo Jail, why I strangely love my Canon AC adapter, the hidden physical labor of commercial photography, why leadership begins with understanding the jobs you’re asking other people to do, and why the best commercial photographers don’t just know how to make photographs—they know how to make sure the job survives when reality inevitably gets in the way.I also share why I think most photographers have a distorted view of this industry, what a nine-thousand-dollar commercial assignment actually looks like once the math is finished, and why I still think there’s something valuable about loading C-stands into the back of a Subaru before sunrise.Sometimes the most important lessons in photography aren’t learned behind the camera.Sometimes they’re learned in the parking lot after the shoot is over.In this episodeWhy I started calling one commercial assignment “Photo Jail”The hidden, unglamorous side of professional photographyGetting rear-ended during production week—and finishing the job anywayWhy leadership starts with understanding the work yourselfThe difference between being a boss and being someone your crew trustsWhy I think professionalism is really about building marginWhat a commercial photography budget actually looks like after the expensesWhy small commercial jobs deserve more respect than they getThe real meaning behind The Soul of the C-StandMentioned in this episodeEpisode 56 — The AuditThe Bear (FX), Season 2 – Garrett and Richie polishing forksCapture OneCanon EOS R5ResourcesThe Book Lessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Show terriblephotographer.com/supportStay Connected Subscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Good Faith - The Small Decisions That Destroy Photography Careers 21.07.2026 1ώ

  Every creative career begins with an invisible handshake.Before the photographs exist, before the campaign launches, before the work is delivered, someone decides to trust you.In this episode, Patrick explores what happens when that trust is broken, beginning with North Carolina Attorney General Jeff Jackson’s May 2026 press conference announcing the state’s lawsuit against Holly Christina Photography, a wedding photography company accused of defrauding more than 200 couples out of nearly $1 million through overbooking, undelivered work, and broken promises. Audio clips from that press conference are used throughout the episode.  From there, the conversation becomes much more personal.Patrick shares the story of an early freelance assignment he never should have accepted, and how one difficult phone call in a 7-Eleven parking lot changed the way he thinks about professionalism forever.Because professionalism isn’t about never making mistakes.It’s about telling the truth before someone has to chase you for it.Key idea: Good faith isn’t believing nothing will go wrong. It’s the promise that when it does, you’ll remain reachable.ResourcesAPA (Advertising Photographers of America) Find your local chapter at apanational.orgThe BookLessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Showterriblephotographer.com/supportStay ConnectedSubscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  The Imposter Filter - What If Confidence Was Never the Requirement For Success? 14.07.2026 27λ

  Have you ever sat in a high-stakes room, looked around at the expensive titles and corporate validation, and quietly wondered when the actual adults were going to arrive to take over?Eventually, you realize they aren't coming. Everyone is waiting on everyone else.In this episode, Patrick Fore breaks down the messy, internal reality of managing high-stakes commercial sets when self-doubt is screaming in your ear. From a midnight operational collapse in a mildew-ridden Chicago elementary school to the quiet realization that authority isn't announced—it’s just transferred—we look at why the room doesn't actually need your internal confidence. It just needs your presence.Audio ClipMark Watney (The Martian): "You just begin. You do the math. You solve one problem. Then you solve the next one, and the next. And if you solve enough problems, you get to come home."What We Cover in This Episode:The Silent Room Rotation: What happens when an agency producer panics, an interpreter doesn't show up, and a room full of people quietly decides you are the grown-up in charge.What Clients Actually Buy: Why a commercial day-rate isn't an invoice for an f-stop or a camera body—it’s a premium insurance policy to absorb chaos and shield the client's timeline.The Insecurity Tyrant: How to spot the director who treats authority like a volume knob, and why micromanaging your crew forces them to let you fail.Borrowing Nervous Systems: The psychological power of co-regulation on a stressful set. Why clients don't hire cocky geniuses; they hire stable anchors.The Universal Shift: Why the Impostor Filter isn't a photography problem. How teachers, parents, and business owners all navigate the exact moment responsibility arrives long before certainty does.Deep-Dive ReferencesThe Impostor Phenomenon (1978): Shifting the perspective on the foundational study by psychologists Pauline Clance and Suzanne Imes, and exploring why the people who feel like frauds are often the least fraudulent minds in the room.ResourcesAPA (Advertising Photographers of America) Find your local chapter at apanational.orgThe BookLessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Showterriblephotographer.com/supportStay ConnectedSubscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  The Missing Map - How To Become A Commercial Photographer in 2026 07.07.2026 42λ

  A friend of mine named Megan has spent more than a decade making beautiful, deeply human photographs of families. The kind of work that makes you feel something long after you’ve put the camera down. More than once I’ve told her she should be shooting commercial lifestyle campaigns.Every time I do, she smiles and says the same thing.“I couldn’t.”Not because she lacks talent.Because somewhere along the way, she decided that world belonged to someone else.That conversation sent me down a rabbit hole I wasn’t expecting. I started asking a deceptively simple question:How do you actually become a commercial photographer in 2026?The longer I looked for the answer, the stranger it became.This episode isn’t really about AI. AI simply exposed a much older problem. It’s about invisible career paths, inherited knowledge, and the possibility that commercial photography has spent decades telling origin stories without ever drawing a map.Maybe the next generation isn’t failing to find commercial photography.Maybe commercial photography is failing to find them.In This EpisodeWhy “How do I become a commercial photographer?” is much harder to answer than it should be.Why photographers like Megan may already have the eye for commercial work without realizing it.The surprising difference between a profession built on pathways and one built on folklore.Why AI isn’t the story, it’s the stress test.A challenge to every working commercial photographer: if we care about the future of this profession, maybe it’s time we start drawing the map.ResourcesAPA (Advertising Photographers of America) Find your local chapter at apanational.orgThe BookLessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Showterriblephotographer.com/supportStay ConnectedSubscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramEmail Me (Patrick Fore)Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Let's Talk Money (Again) - A Terrible Conversation with Shelly Waldman 30.06.2026 1ώ 45λ

  This week, we are throwing a match into one of the most heavily guarded hiding places in the creative industry: financial trauma, pricing shame, and the business choices we make when the market goes cold. In this special "pod swap" episode, Patrick joins forces with Shelly Waldman from the Creative Campfire podcast. This isn't a sterile lecture on spreadsheets or corporate accounting pipelines. It is a raw, trench-level interrogation into why independent creators systematically undercharge, how childhood conditioning shapes our adult business anxiety, and what it actually takes to maintain your premium pricing integrity when you are trapped in a financial desert.Meet Shelly WaldmanShelly Waldman sits at the rare, hyper-focused apex of analytical data and pure creative execution. Before launching her commercial photography business in 2009, she earned a degree in economics and spent ten years working as a corporate financial analyst for Citibank. Today, through her commercial portfolio, her podcast Creative Campfire, and her educational platform at Creative Camp, she teaches creative entrepreneurs how to strip the emotional baggage out of their pricing models, look flatly at the data, and run a business that actually builds long-term wealth.Portfolio: shellywaldman.comEducation & Resources: creativecamp.proKey Moments & Deep Dives1. Blue-Collar Anchors vs. Corporate ExpectationsPatrick and Shelly dissect where our foundational money scripts are written. Patrick shares the memory of his father being laid off from a Midwestern factory job at age twelve, creating a permanent, tight-rope anxiety of living between "poor and doing okay." Shelly details growing up with stable, thirty-year career educators who couldn't fathom why their children would abandon secure office desks to chase volatile, high-risk creative fields like professional sports or freelance lifestyle photography.2. The $7 Latte and the Illusion of ControlWe have all heard the exhausting, surface-level financial advice telling struggling freelancers to cut out their daily premium coffee habits to balance their books. Patrick and Shelly flip the script on this narrative. In highly volatile, economically stressful environments, that expensive drink isn't a math error—it is a cigarette. It is a deliberate, calculated hit of micro-joy and environmental control when the larger financial structures around you are completely collapsing.3. The "Spicy Take" on Second Shooter ExploitationPatrick drops a heavy indictment on the direct-to-consumer wedding market. When a primary studio hires a second shooter for a ten-hour day, drops a five-hundred-dollar Venmo payment, and uses a one-sided contract to strip away the rookie's copyright and portfolio rights, it isn't "just business." It is photographers actively capitalizing on the ignorance of other photographers. They break down the legal realities of B2B transactions and why the industry standard day rate for second shooters has criminally stalled for over fifteen years.4. The Ballpark Trap: Walking Away in a Money DesertShelly breaks down a real-time contract negotiation drama from her recent work in London. A corporate charity client handed her an incredibly complex orchestra brief—complete with multiple conductors, split lightning keys, backstage portrait demands, and a requirement for perpetuity image usage across three separate companies. When they tried to slash her estimated rate completely in half, she walked away from the table—despite being in a dry market."If you reward the screaming toddler with a cupcake, you are punishing the entire creative industry. You teach the client that whatever an independent artist quotes, it can always be sliced in half."5. Gamifying the "No" vs. Rooting Out the TraumaWhen a creative professional is terrified to raise their rates, Shelly and Patrick deploy two completely different, equally necessary coaching frameworks:Shelly’s Data Method: Break down your cost of living into a hard, non-negotiable survival line. Then, increase your rates incrementally by fifty dollars on every single new inquiry until the market explicitly tells you "No." Run the 100 No Project and treat rejection like a game of Monopoly.Patrick’s Identity Method: Stop looking at the spreadsheet and look in the mirror. Identify the ghost inside your ego. Ask yourself if you are undercharging because your portfolio is weak, or because your family history has trained you to believe you don't deserve to hold capital.Surviving Another Day in 2026Patrick shares the whiplash reality of his first few years of complete independence: bringing in $123,000 in 2024, only to watch the entire client pipeline vanish into complete silence throughout 2025, forcing him to stand on his front porch and sell his backup camera gear just to cover his California rent.The underlying consensus of this pod swap is simple: if you are operating an independent creative business in 2026, navigating the structural shifts of AI and platform manipulation, and simply managing to survive to shoot another frame—you get the gold star. Survival is a badge of honor.Connect With the Show:Patrick’s Portfolio & Archive: patrickfore.com | terriblecreative.comGrab the Audiobook: Check out Lessons From a Terrible Photographer on Audible, Apple Books, or find the direct links at terriblecreative.com/the-book.Shelly’s Podcast: Tune into Creative Campfire on all major streaming platforms. (00:00) - Intro: Money Shame & Pod Swap (00:39) - Origin Stories: Where Our Money Beliefs Come From (43:30) - Licensing, Usage & Second Shooters (01:01:14) - Practical Tactics: Getting to the Number (01:03:06) - Why Photographers Undercharge — & How to Fix It (01:31:51) - Coaching Corner: Advice for the Scared Photographer -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Money Talks - Audiobook Preview: The psychology of undercharging and how financial stability creates true creative freedom. 23.06.2026 43λ

  We are doing something a little different this week. To give the live microphone a brief rest, we are pulling back the curtain on a project that has been built in the dark for months. In this episode, you are getting an exclusive, unedited listen to an entire chapter from my newly released audiobook: Chapter 14 — "Money Talks."This chapter cuts straight down to the bone of creative capitalism. It’s about the raw, visceral panic of quoting a number that makes your palms sweat, why the romanticized "starving artist" trope is an absolute lie, and how your pricing is a profound statement about your creative self-worth, not just a line item on an invoice.🎧 THE AUDIOBOOK IS OFFICIALLY OUT IN THE WILDThe wait is over. The complete audiobook version of Lessons From a Terrible Photographer is officially live and streaming onsite at Audible, Apple Books, and everywhere else you consume audio.If you want to grab your copy, listen to the rest of the book, or check out what people are saying, head directly to the link below:👉 Get the Audiobook Here: theterriblecreative.com/the-bookIn This Chapter:The Starbucks Recalibration: The story of the first time I quoted a five-figure rate ($32,000) that made my hands sweat in Irvine, California—and the epiphany that followed.The Trust Fund Myth: Why the "starving artist" romance loses its appeal the exact second your electricity gets turned off, and who actually invented that narrative.The $500 Downtown LA Disaster: A painful look back at my early freelancing days on Upwork, lugging backgrounds up thirty flights of stairs, and realizing my business was just a very expensive hobby.The Discount Photographer Death Spiral: The exact self-perpetuating psychological trap that keeps talented creatives broke, resentful, and suffocated.The Intention Effect: How walking away from a corporate salary at Taylor Guitars forced my brain's Reticular Activating System to prioritize non-negotiable financial targets.The Freedom Equation: Why financial stability isn't for "sellouts"—it is the literal foundation that gives you the breathing room to take true artistic risks.🪵 NEXT WEEK: Money Shame & Trauma with Shelly WaldmanThis audiobook drop is the exact intellectual foundation for where this show is heading next week. Next week, we are continuing our dive into the financial muck with a massive pod-swap conversation featuring Shelly Waldman from the Creative Campfire podcast.We are leaving the dry business strategies at the door and getting entirely real about money trauma, freelance precarity, and what happens when an empty inbox makes you feel like a failure as a human being.Go grab the audiobook, digest Chapter 14, and brace yourself for next week.Connect With the Show:Audiobook Links: theterriblecreative.com/the-bookMain Website & Archive: theterriblecreative.comEmail is Always Open: Send your thoughts, questions, or unfiltered hate mail directly through the link in the show notes. I read everything.Stay curious. Stay courageous. Stay terrible. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  We’ll See - The quiet anxiety of marketing 16.06.2026 39λ

  She said two words and I haven't stopped thinking about them since.This episode started at an APA event in La Mesa, in an artist's studio, in a conversation with a commercial photographer who's doing everything right. Personal work that matters, cold pitches going out every day, a real strategy executed with discipline. I asked how it was going."We'll see."This one is about that phrase. What it actually means to operate a creative business in 2026, where the feedback loops are fast, the wins are public, and the silence feels personal even when it isn't. About confidence as a product people sell you. About the gap between effort and outcome that nobody's content calendar accounts for. And about a camera I had to sell on Facebook Marketplace, and what it felt like to hand it to a stranger on my front porch.Your marketing not working isn't a referendum on your talent. Sometimes it's just the weather.In This EpisodeAPA (Advertising Photographers of America) Find your local chapter at apanational.orgThe BookLessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Showterriblephotographer.com/supportStay ConnectedSubscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramPodcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Playing Hurt - How Professional Creatives Perform at Full Capacity When Everything Goes Wrong 09.06.2026 39λ

  There is a version of this job that looks incredible from the outside. The gear. The clients. The portfolio. What nobody sees is what it costs to produce it.In this episode I'm talking about the part of the creative life nobody puts in the brochure. What it actually means to be a professional. Not the romantic version. The real one. Where you photograph a CEO with a fractured finger, shoot a full day with walking pneumonia, and drive to Los Angeles at 4am for a job you agreed to six months ago when it seemed manageable.The amateur has the luxury of the craft. The professional has the obligation of it. And nobody tells you that from the outside.This one is about divided focus, muscle memory, and the strange, specific capacity to override every biological alarm you have because there is a job to do and you are the only one who can do it.Lessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the showSubscribe to Pub NotesTerrible Photographer on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramPodcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Episode photography from Adobe Stock and Unsplash. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Death Grip - Google AI Just Changed How Clients Find You. Here's What It Can't Replace. 02.06.2026 25λ

  Something shifted last week. Not dramatically. Quietly, the way things in this industry tend to change — while you're working, while you're trying to keep the phone ringing.Google's AI Mode is rewriting how clients find photographers. The search box that used to send people to your website now answers their question and keeps them inside Google. The content you spent years building to get found is being consumed by the machine that replaced you.So I did what I always do. Stayed up too late, rebuilt half my website for an algorithm, and unpublished pages I'd spent months on.This episode is about that night. About what it costs to hold the wrong things too tight. About a portrait subject who sat in her car for ten minutes before she could walk through my studio door — and what happened in the room after she did. And about the part of this work that no platform update, no search algorithm, no AI announcement has ever been able to touch.The ninety percent is window dressing. This episode is about the ten.Resources and LinksLessons From A Terrible Photographer (The Book) https://www.terriblephotographer.com/the-bookSupport the show https://www.terriblephotographer.com/supportSubscribe to Pub Notes, the newsletter https://the-terrible-photographer.kit.com/223fe471fbThe Terrible Creative on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/terriblephotographer/Patrick Fore on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/patrickfore/Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Mute - You've Spent Years Getting Good. Do You Have Anything Left to Say? 26.05.2026 44λ

  There is a man standing in a clearing in Arkansas with a yellow guitar, singing about insulin prices to nobody in particular.Three million people found him. Not because of the production value. Because he was saying the thing.This episode is about the gap most professional creatives never talk about — the distance between the skills that pay your rent and the thing you actually have to say. How years of executing other people's briefs can quietly atrophy a different kind of muscle. And what happens when you finally try to use it.I talk about Jesse Welles, Oliver Anthony, a series of images I made in 2024 that landed in silence, and why Marcus Aurelius titled his most important work "To Himself."This one took a while to say out loud.In This EpisodeJesse Welles — "War Isn't Murder" Watch on YouTube wellesmusic.com Jesse Welles on BandcampOliver Anthony — "Rich Men North of Richmond" Watch on YouTube oliveranthonymusic.comCNN News Coverage — Sandy Hook Elementary School, December 14, 2012 Watch on YouTube Used for editorial purposes.The BookLessons From a Terrible PhotographerSupport the Showtheterriblecreative.com/supportStay ConnectedSubscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter)The Terrible Creative on InstagramPatrick Fore on InstagramPodcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot SessionsRecorded from my garage in San Diego, California -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Clown Nose - What the Creator Economy Actually Costs a Working Creative 19.05.2026 43λ

  There's a composite photographer in this episode named Nate. His details have been changed. His situation has not.This episode is about the creator economy — what it actually costs, who it was actually built for, and the quiet compromise most creative professionals are making every day. Not loudly. Not dramatically. Just quietly, in parking garages, watching the blue light of a phone, waiting for a signal that isn't coming.I talk about the Gilded Age, the algorithm, and a system so elegant it doesn't need to be cruel. I also name something I've been avoiding saying out loud for a while.If this one lands close, send it to someone who needs to hear it.Nate is a composite character. Details altered to protect identity.THE BOOK Lessons From a Terrible Photographer is out now. It’s part memoir, part field guide, and part honest conversation about what it actually costs to build a creative life. If this episode landed, the book goes deeper into finding the "Source" when the "Resource" runs dry.LINKSWebsite: terriblephotographer.comSupport the show: terriblephotographer.com/supportSubscribe to Pub Notes: the-terrible-photographer.kit.comInstagram: @terriblephotographerPatrick on Instagram: @patrickforeEmail Patrick: [email protected] is always open. Questions, thoughts, hate mail. I respond to everything. Link above.The Terrible Creative is written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Images Licensed through Adobe Stock. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California.  -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Terrible Conversations - Tom Wright - Tom Wright on Creative Work and Photography 14.05.2026 1ώ 7λ

  Terrible Conversations w/ Tom WrightTom Wright is a photography consultant based in Burnley, UK. He calls himself a phototherapist, and no, he's not a doctor. But photographers that work with him tend to leave unstuck.Tom started in 2011 teaching photographers how to shoot Impossible Project instant film. From there he shot weddings for over a decade, moved into commercial photography, and eventually traded client work for consulting after discovering that helping photographers was the thing that actually got him out of bed.In this conversation, we talk about what it means to develop a style versus chasing trends, why AI is eating the bottom of the photography market, and what most photographers are missing when they look at their own work.We also spend way too long talking about British food. You're welcome.What we get into:Why Tom calls himself a phototherapist and what that actually meansThe difference between fashion and style in photographyWhat bifurcation is doing to the industry right nowWhy the artists are still there, just quieterHow Tom identifies what's already working in someone's portfolioThe Polaroid workshops that started it allWhy commodity photography has a shrinking runwayWhat to do if you don't feel like you have anything interesting to sayFind Tom at bytomw.com and on Instagram at @bytomw. Consultations are free. Go get unstuck.-----THE BOOK Lessons From a Terrible Photographer is out now. It’s part memoir, part field guide, and part honest conversation about what it actually costs to build a creative life. If this episode landed, the book goes deeper into finding the "Source" when the "Resource" runs dry.LINKSWebsite: terriblephotographer.comSupport the show: terriblephotographer.com/supportSubscribe to Pub Notes: the-terrible-photographer.kit.comInstagram: @terriblephotographerPatrick on Instagram: @patrickforeEmail Patrick: [email protected] is always open. Questions, thoughts, hate mail. I respond to everything. Link above.The Terrible Creative is written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Images Licensed through Adobe Stock. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  Stop Being A Tool - Why Creatives Were Never Just Useful 12.05.2026 40λ

  We’ve spent a century conditioning ourselves to believe that if we aren’t "producing," we aren't "valuable." But in 2026, the machines can out-produce us all. This episode is about The Great Decoupling—the moment we stop being high-end processors and start being the source. We dive into the "Productivist Fallacy," why Maya and Chris are grieving the loss of their utility, and why your "Why" is the only proprietary data left that the machines can't touch.It’s time to move from being a resource to being the source.MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODEYale Budget Lab – March 2026 Report on Creative Automation.Immanuel Kant – The distinction between Instrumental and Intrinsic Value (Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals).IDIBELL UB Brain Cognition Group – 2026 study in Advanced Science on human imaginative leaps.James Taylor – SuperCreativity and the concept of Centaurs vs. Cyborgs.THE BOOK Lessons From a Terrible Photographer is out now. It’s part memoir, part field guide, and part honest conversation about what it actually costs to build a creative life. If this episode landed, the book goes deeper into finding the "Source" when the "Resource" runs dry.LINKSWebsite: terriblephotographer.comSupport the show: terriblephotographer.com/supportSubscribe to Pub Notes: the-terrible-photographer.kit.comInstagram: @terriblephotographerPatrick on Instagram: @patrickforeEmail Patrick: [email protected] is always open. Questions, thoughts, hate mail. I respond to everything. Link above.The Terrible Creative is written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Images Licensed through Adobe Stock. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
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  The Cost of Getting Good - The Cost of Getting Good - How Success Becomes a Creative Trap for Creatives 05.05.2026 31λ

  Getting good at your craft is supposed to be the goal. But for a lot of us, competence became the cage. This episode is about the feedback loop nobody warns you about: the better you get, the harder it is to leave. And what we build around the good thing to protect it.Also, some honesty about why I called this show "Terrible" that I haven't said out loud before.MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODEBartleby the Scrivener - Herman Melville (1853)The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock - T.S. Eliot (1915)Robert Berglas - Self-Handicapping researchTHE BOOKLessons From a Terrible Photographer is out now. It's part memoir, part field guide, and part honest conversation about what it actually costs to build a creative life. If this episode landed, the book goes deeper.Get it here: https://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Terrible-Photographer-Photography-Probably/dp/B0GRGLYKYS/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0LINKSWebsite: http://terriblephotographer.comSupport the show: https://www.terriblephotographer.com/supportSubscribe to Pub Notes: https://the-terrible-photographer.kit.com/223fe471fbInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/terriblephotographer/Patrick on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrickfore/Email Patrick : [email protected] is always open. Questions, thoughts, hate mail. I respond to everything. Link above.The Terrible Creative is written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with PatrickStuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy?Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective.$99Learn more or book your session:https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours