Defense Unicorns, A Podcast

Episodios

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  Teaming for the Mission: Why Collaboration Wins in Complex Environments with Bob Ritchie and Lauren Knausenberger 25.09.2025 52m

  Lauren Knausenberger and Bob Ritchie of SAIC join host Rob Slaughter, CEO of Defense Unicorns, to talk about what it takes to drive meaningful innovation in defense at scale. With roots in both the Pentagon and SAIC, they unpack how mission-first thinking, public-private collaboration, and a deep respect for open ecosystems are reshaping the future of national security. From startup partnerships to acquisition reform, this episode blends grounded insight with big-picture perspective.
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  Why Contributing to Open Source Matters for the Mission 19.05.2025 59m

  Brandt Keller joins host Rebecca Lively to talk about what it takes to deliver secure, resilient software in disconnected, mission-critical environments. A former Marine turned CNCF ambassador, Brandt shares how his frontline experience fuels his passion for open source and solving tough infrastructure problems. He unpacks the government’s complicated relationship with open source, the risks of being just a consumer, and why designing for air-gapped systems makes everyone’s software better. From Kubernetes contributions to cereal-soup debates, this episode blends real-world insight with a touch of fun.
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  Shipping Software Faster and Safer with Pepr 05.05.2025 45m

  On this episode of The Defense Unicorns Podcast, host Rebecca Lively sits down with Case Wylie, Software Engineering Lead, to talk all things Pepr—a TypeScript-based operator framework reshaping secure software delivery in air-gapped environments. Case shares how Pepr streamlines Kubernetes operations while empowering developers to move fast without sacrificing safety. From nightclub metaphors to GitOps integration, this conversation unpacks how standardizing security posture can reduce friction and boost team velocity. They also explore the importance of open-source collaboration and what it takes to build tools that scale across some of the world’s most demanding environments.
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  Why DIU Ruined Wayne Starr in the Best Way 14.04.2025 50m

  Unicorn Engineer Wayne Starr joins host Rebecca Lively to share his journey from “ruined by DIU” to rewriting the rules of DevSecOps in the Department of Defense. From flying to Qatar to fix mission-critical planning tools to reflashing smart lightbulbs with open-source firmware, Wayne brings stories that blend innovation with impact. He breaks down how user-centered design, policy fluency, and open source mindset helped him ship real software in some of the most complex environments. Whether you're battling bureaucracy or building the future of defense tech, this episode is packed with insights—and a few laughs about MP3s on paper.
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  Breaking the Myths of DevSecOps 10.03.2025 45m

  On this episode of The Defense Unicorns Podcast, host Rebecca Lively chats with Bryan Finster, Distinguished Engineer at Defense Unicorns, about the real keys to delivering software faster, safer, and smarter. Bryan challenges the myths of DevSecOps, arguing that rigid frameworks and bureaucratic processes don’t create security—they create fragility. Instead, he advocates for continuous delivery, rapid feedback loops, and a culture of ownership to drive better outcomes for users and engineers. Drawing from his experiences in large-scale enterprises and government systems, Bryan explains why adaptability, not process-heavy oversight, is the key to success. If you’re ready for a fresh perspective on DevSecOps, Agile, and leadership, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.
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  Building Trust and Security in the DoD: A DevSecOps Perspective 10.02.2025 48m

  On this episode of Defense Unicorns, host Rebecca Lively sits down with Dr. Noe Lorona, platform engineer at the Army Software Factory, to discuss the pivotal role of DevSecOps in the Department of Defense. Dr. Lorona shares insights on embedding security into every step of development, fostering trust and transparency within teams, and cultivating a culture of innovation even in high-stakes environments. Together, they highlight how secure and agile software development can drive transformational change in defense and beyond. Tune in to explore the intersection of technology, leadership, and national security!
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  Inside Cyber Defense: Col. Sean Kern on Building Agile, Secure Teams 09.01.2025 52m

  In this Defense Unicorns episode, Col. Sean Kern, Director of Cyberspace Operations Strategy at SAIC, shares insights from his transition from military to civilian leadership and the vital role of culture in DevSecOps. He highlights the importance of balancing automation with human judgment in cybersecurity, stressing that strategic oversight is crucial in high-stakes decisions. Kern also discusses the need for unified frameworks across military branches to strengthen cybersecurity operations, emphasizing that adaptability and speed are essential for defense against evolving threats.
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  From Code to Combat: The Tech Transforming the DoD 17.10.2024 45m

  In this episode of the Defense Unicorns Podcast, Collen Roller, Founder of Dark Saber, shares his journey in bringing DevSecOps to the forefront of defense technology. He discusses how Dark Saber empowers airmen to build secure, production-ready applications and explores the future of generative AI in military operations. From automating tasks to enhancing data access with Nipper GPT, Collen highlights the transformative impact of AI in the Department of Defense. Tune in to learn how DevSecOps and innovation are shaping the future of defense.
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  Keeping Open Source Software Secure with Eddie Zaneski 02.10.2024 48m

  In this episode of Defense Unicorns Podcast, we chat with Eddie Zaneski, the tech lead for open source at Defense Unicorns. Eddie shares his journey from an aspiring math teacher to a leading figure in the tech industry, discussing his contributions to Kubernetes and his work on software supply chain security. We also explore the security of open-source communities, the evolution of software deployment, and Eddie’s passion for leveraging government funding to support open-source projects.
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  Connecting DevSecOps to Boyd’s Theories with Mark McGrath 19.09.2024 52m

  In this episode of the Defense Unicorns Podcast, Rebecca interviews Mark McGrath, a Marine Corps veteran and asset manager, about the synergy between DevSecOps practices and John Boyd's theories. Mark discusses how Boyd's OODA loop and concepts like rapid iteration and "Destruction and Creation" apply to modern software development and business strategy. The conversation also explores the importance of psychological safety and cross-functional collaboration in fostering effective DevSecOps environments and navigating complex challenges.
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  From Marine to Cyber Security Expert 05.09.2024 59m

  In this episode of Defense Unicorns Podcast, we sit down with Kurt Sanger, a retired Marine and former Deputy Staff Judge Advocate at US Cyber Command, to discuss his journey from military justice to cyber operations law. Kurt shares insights on the evolution of cyber partnerships, the challenges of providing legal counsel in military operations, and the rapid transition of cyber operations from theory to practice. He also explores the interplay between technology, law, and international relations in shaping future conflicts.
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  Blueprint for Catastrophic Success with Lt. Col. Casey “Waldo” Miller 04.06.2024 1h 4m

  In this podcast episode, host Rebecca talks with Lieutenant Colonel Casey Waldo Miller, Deputy Commander of the 67th Cyberspace Operations Group. Covering topics from his family history of military service to his role in transforming cyber operations, Lt. Col. Miller shares his journey into the Air Force, the lessons learned from commanding the 90th Cyberspace Operations Squadron, and his philosophy of leadership, including concepts like catastrophic success, ‘sucking less’ and strategic intent. Highlighting key moments like influencing Air Force policy changes and briefing top military leaders, this episode provides an in-depth look at how strategic thinking and prioritizing people can lead to significant organizational change.
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  Shaping Modern Defense with Luke Shabro 14.05.2024 50m

  In this episode of Defense Unicorns Podcast, host Rebecca Lively engages with Luke Shabro, a former intelligence specialist and current Army Growth Lead at Defense Unicorns, in a comprehensive dialogue focusing on Luke’s journey from the navy to a pivotal role in shaping the future of military operations. They delve into Luke’s experiences with DevSecOps, cybersecurity, and how his work in intelligence and organizational transformation has contributed to anticipating and preparing for future warfare challenges. The conversation highlights the importance of innovative thinking and collaboration across the defense sector to proactively address the evolving landscape of global security and technological advancement. 
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  Redefining Disruption in Defense with Captain Will Walker 30.04.2024 37m

  On this episode of Defense Unicorns, a Podcast, Air Force Captain Will Walker’s journey from university to the Air Force, focusing on his involvement in software development, DevOps technologies, and cybersecurity. It touches on his experiences with ROTC, passion for software, and the balance between technical involvement and leadership. The conversation delves into creating CICD pipelines, driving innovation in structured organizations, and the importance of questioning the status quo for change. Additionally, Will reflects on the value of software development, emphasizing its disruptive potential, impact on pushing boundaries, and the power of open-source collaboration in the tech field. 
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  How Law School Led to Software Leadership with Rebecca Lively 26.03.2024 45m

  This podcast episode features a candid conversation with Rebecca Lively, former Deputy Director at the Air Force's Shadows Edge Software Factory, now part of Defense Unicorns. Rebecca shares her unique career journey, from an impulsive decision to attend law school, to intellectual property litigation, and eventually leading roles within the military’s cyber and software development sectors. She discusses the challenges and realizations she faced in various roles, including her struggle with imposter syndrome and the importance of diversity and humility in tech. The episode also delves into broader issues like some flaws within the government’s hiring system, the impact of diversity on software development, and the shift towards creating a more inclusive and innovative work environment.
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  Jeff McCoy’s Journey from Enlisted Service to Startup Success 11.03.2024 47m

  Join us as we dive into the story of Jeff McCoy. His journey wasn't a straight line. He went from blowing up his dad's laptop as a kid to making big changes in military tech with his work at Kessel Run, and Platform One and Space Camp. Now, he's taking on the tech world with his own startup, Defense Unicorns, which he co-founded. We'll talk about the ups and downs, the challenges he faced, their recent Series A investment for $30 million and other wins along the way. If you're curious about how someone goes from serving their country to shaking up the tech scene, this is the podcast for you.
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  From Teen Developer to Defense Tech Leader: A Journey Unveiled with Nicolas Chaillan 05.03.2024 58m

  In this episode titled we delve into the extraordinary journey of Nicolas Chaillan, who started as a teen software developer, revolutionized PHP adoption in enterprises, pioneered secure e-commerce in Europe, and went on to found and scale multiple companies across the globe, to include becoming the Department of the Air Force’s First Chief Software Officer. Listen as Nic shares insights from his early days of building game server hosting companies and e-commerce websites, navigating the challenges of being a young entrepreneur in a rapidly evolving tech landscape, and transitioning into a pivotal role in the U.S. Department of Defense. This story is not just about technological innovation, but also about resilience, adaptability, and the drive to make a significant impact on national security. Join us as we uncover the lessons learned from bridging the worlds of startups and cybersecurity, and how embracing change and seizing opportunities can lead from teenage coding projects to leading tech initiatives in defense. Connect with Nic on LinkedIn.
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  Startups in the AI-Driven Defense Arena with Courtney Barno 24.10.2023 56m

  In this episode with Courtney Barno, we dive into the intricacies of navigating the challenging market for startups, especially when it comes to interfacing with government agencies. Discover the policies, strategies, and technologies that are shaping the defense sector and influencing global values. Learn about the significance of Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) and Small Business Technology Transfer (STTR), the art of crafting impactful proposals, and the importance of understanding the unique persona of government buyers. Furthermore, we explore the evolving global landscape, with the U.S. and China at the forefront of a race for technological leadership, particularly in the realm of artificial intelligence. As commercial entities surge ahead in AI adoption, is the U.S. military keeping pace?
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  AI on the Frontline: Modern Defense with Col Rhet Turnbull 10.10.2023 48m

  Join us on this episode of Defense Unicorns as host Robert Slaughter sits down with Col Rhet Turnbull, Deputy Director, Space Systems Integration Office, to discuss the significant shifts in the Department of Defense. After two decades of counterterrorism focus, the spotlight is shifting back to the looming threats posed by global superpowers. Col Turnbull sheds light on the critical role of the Space Force in securing national interests and the profound impact of space on our everyday lives. How is AI revolutionizing defense strategies? What are the challenges it poses? And as the world powers position themselves, is the U.S. military equipped to handle the competition? Col Turnbull shares his insights into the future of military strategies, the necessity of embracing innovation, and his advice for the next generation of defense leaders. Listen now to delve deep into the strategies that are reshaping global defense dynamics.
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  Lessons from TSA’s former Chief Innovation Officer, Daniel McCoy 12.09.2023 51m

  In this episode, we sit down with Daniel McCoy, the former TSA Chief Innovation Officer, to delve into the complex task of fostering innovation within a massive, regulated organization. From his "first principle" mantra to localized pain points and employee apprehensions about innovating, Dan shares invaluable insights for anyone leading change. Tune in to learn why agility is the government's unwavering advantage and get a masterclass on sparking innovation no matter where you work. Subscribe now so you don't miss out!