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  $100M YouTube Lawyer Reveals How to Protect Your Channel in 2026 | Tyler Chou | 145 10.09.2026 1t 17min

  What does it take to turn a YouTube channel into a valuable, sellable business? That's what I wanted to explore with this week’s guest, Tyler Chou (aka The Creators' Attorney). Having spent 20 years as an entertainment attorney at giants like Disney and BuzzFeed, Tyler now represents some of YouTube's biggest channels, helping them navigate exits and build sustainable enterprises.In this episode, Tyler pulls back the curtain on the legal mistakes creators often make, the crucial steps to take to protect your assets, and why sometimes, a creator doesn't need to sell at all - they just need a sabbatical. Tyler shares insights on how to build a business that can eventually sell for 8 or 9 figures, and what investors are really looking for beyond just views.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:09 Private equity looks to buy YouTube channels03:52 Creator burnout04:52 Protecting your IP and avoiding mistakes08:20 Diversifying revenue beyond AdSense and brand deals10:43 Avoiding misclassification lawsuits12:46 The problem with reaction channels17:45 Why buyers love recurring revenue and technical products23:11 The power of artificial scarcity28:20 How to make your brand less dependent on the creator37:48 Should creators sell their business?43:49 You might need a sabbatical, not an exit45:00 How to protect yourself from predatory buyers51:08 Hiring operators to run products54:19 The power of angel investors on your cap table56:29 The value of books for creators1:11:08 Building a network of channels1:14:10 Where to find TylerIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Tyler:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCreatorsAttorneyLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thecreatorsattorneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecreatorsattorneyFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHighlights:01:38 - Why private equity is buying YouTube channels07:50 - The power of building independent revenue streams12:58 - Why reaction channels are worthless to buyers38:00 - The surprising downsides of taking an exit59:20 - The power of books for creator credibility
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  How to ACTUALLY Sell a Creator Business | Pat Flynn & Liz Wilcox | 144 03.09.2026 1t 18min

  What does it actually take to sell a creator business? That’s what I wanted to get into with Pat Flynn and Liz Wilcox, who sat down with me to share some big news. After 18 years of building Smart Passive Income, Pat has officially sold the business - and Liz is the new owner.In this episode, Pat and Liz take us through the entire process, from why Pat decided it was time to let go, to how they valued and structured the deal, why Liz was the right person to take over, and how they planned the transition to make sure the audience felt supported. We also get into what makes a creator business sellable, including building systems, community, recurring revenue, and a brand that can thrive beyond its founder.If you're building a creator business and want to understand how to make it more valuable, transferable, and ultimately sellable, I think you'll get a lot out of this conversation.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:15 Pat's big announcement02:48 Liz's journey to acquiring SPI04:30 How SPI became a sellable business06:27 Pat's massive success with Pokemon08:21 The impact of SPI's community10:47 Why Pat let go of SPI12:38 Prioritizing community over profit14:10 The financial aspects of the deal16:15 The future of Smart Passive Income: Team WIN18:30 What makes a business sellable20:00 Merging Liz's brand into SPI21:23 10x is easier than 2x22:50 The challenge of selling a personal brand24:50 The intentional transition processIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Pat:X: https://twitter.com/PatFlynnWebsite: https://patflynn.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@patflynnLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patflynnFollow Liz:Website: https://www.lizwilcox.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thelizwilcoxLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-wilcox-58740b1b0Featured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comSmart Passive Income: https://www.smartpassiveincome.comBuilt to Sell: https://builtosell.comWill It Fly?: https://patflynn.com/book/will-it-flyThe Virtual Campground: https://thevirtualcampground.comHighlights:01:15 - The big announcement07:12 - Liz's personal mission for SPI14:32 - The Pokémon channel's incredible growth25:27 - The profound impact of communities35:40 - Negotiating and structuring a business sale
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  How the Author of Atomic Habits ACTUALLY Makes Money | James Clear | 143 27.08.2026 59min

  When James Clear last spoke on the Craft & Commerce stage, Atomic Habits hadn't even been released. Now, it's sold over 30 million copies worldwide. I was delighted to welcome James back to the same stage 8 years later to unpack what he’s learned from creating one of the bestselling books of the last decade. In this conversation, James shares his insights on how to create a timeless product, how he built an email list of over 4 million subscribers, and the revolutionary publishing model he’s building with Authors Equity. James also answers burning questions from the audience on simplifying complex ideas, building lasting entrepreneurial friendships, protecting your identity as a creator in public, and James’s personal mission in life. If you’ve ever wondered what goes into creating a bestselling book, I think you’ll get a lot out of this episode.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:07 Expectations for Atomic Habits' success02:54 Selling 30M+ copies04:48 Timeless marketing principles07:18 Positioning for long-term book sales09:39 Building the world's largest single-author newsletter12:44 Current effective growth tactics14:01 Cross-pollinating platforms for growth16:51 The vision behind Authors Equity20:51 The Atomic Habits tipping point23:09 Why books are an underrated business model24:48 Simplifying complex ideas27:54 Cultivating lasting entrepreneur friendships31:33 Protecting your identity as a public creator35:30 Why choose traditional publishing over self-publishing?39:17 Mining for stories and metaphors43:24 What makes Authors Equity different?48:50 Daily habits for rebuilding momentum51:50 James’s life mission54:24 Authors Equity: working with self-published authors58:05 James's parting thoughts: 10-year and 1-hour timeframesIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow James:Website: https://jamesclear.comNewsletter: https://jamesclear.com/3-2-1X: https://twitter.com/jamesclearLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesclearInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamesclearFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comAtomic Habits: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habitsAuthors Equity: https://www.authorsequity.comHighlights:02:10 - James's initial expectations for Atomic Habits09:39 - How James built the world's largest single-author newsletter23:09 - Why books are an underrated business model48:50 - James’s daily habits for rebuilding momentum51:50 - James’s life mission
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  How to Turn Your Creator Business Into an Empire | Ben Greenfield | 142 20.08.2026 53min

  Many creators dream of building an empire, but how many actually pull it off while still making time for family and personal passions?That's what I wanted to dig into with Ben Greenfield. He’s been podcasting since 2008 and has built a massive personal brand around health and wellness. But what really fascinated me is how he's leveraged that brand to launch not just one, but two other businesses that are scaling to entirely different levels: a supplements company and a revolutionary health tech platform.I sat down with Ben to break down his entire revenue pie, his strategies for growing multiple companies, and how he keeps his personal brand from becoming the bottleneck in his rapidly expanding empire.If you've built a creator business and are wondering what it would take to turn it into something much bigger, I think you'll get a lot from this episode.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:12 The early days of podcasting03:00 Early revenue and online ventures04:15 The lightbulb moment: Scaling IP online05:59 Mapping out Ben Greenfield Life revenue06:33 Audience and platform scale07:31 Podcast revenue breakdown09:18 Coaching and its growth potential11:03 Life Network and Life Market12:16 Total personal brand revenue breakdown13:19 Integrated ad packages and whitelisting16:09 Affiliate revenue and long-term partnerships17:27 Team structure for Ben Greenfield Life20:29 Lessons for scaling content businesses22:45 Lifestyle design and work-life balance23:52 Launching Kion28:44 Disentangling personal brand from Kion31:32 Leveraging brand for launch, then scaling independently35:44 The new venture39:55 Life OS's rapid growth and scale42:47 The power of recurring revenue models44:31 Intentional scaling beyond personal brand47:47 Building an empire vs. a lifestyle business49:30 Ben's daily lifestyle and routine52:16 Wrap-up and where to find BenIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Ben:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bengreenfieldlifeInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/bengreenfieldfitnessLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengreenfieldWebsite: https://bengreenfieldlife.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comBoundless: https://shopbengreenfieldlife.com/products/boundless-updated-revisedKion: https://getkion.comHighlights:04:15 - The lightbulb moment: Scaling IP online12:16 - Total personal brand revenue breakdown20:29 - Lessons for scaling content businesses31:29 - Don't let your brand be the bottleneck47:47 - How to build both empire and lifestyle businesses
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  The $10 Offer That Made $750,000 | Shawn Blanc | 141 13.08.2026 1t 10min

  I recently sat down with Shawn Blanc, a creator I've known for years, to talk about what it takes to keep reinventing yourself and your business over a long career. Shawn has spent the last 15 years building and evolving his business, from an ebook and sponsorships to his flagship Focus Course, masterminds, retreats, and eventually a completely new direction. In this episode we discuss what Shawn calls “the burden of opportunity”, how to decide which opportunities are worth pursuing, and what happens when you realize the thing holding your business back might actually be you. Shawn also shares how he knew it was time to move on from the business that had built his career, and how that decision ultimately led to one of the biggest breakthroughs his business has ever had.If you're building a creator business and thinking about what the next version of it should look like, you'll get a lot out of this conversation.Timestamps:01:13 Early Days: From Apple Blogger to Product Creator04:35 First Product Launch13:00 The "Bling Ding": $100K in a Week20:37 The Burden of Opportunity: How to Say No30:00 Business Stagnation35:45 The Power of Community45:40 The Pivot51:00 The Big Breakthrough55:10 Biggest LessonsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Shawn:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnblancLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnblancX: https://twitter.com/shawnblancWebsite: https://shawnblanc.netFeatured in this episode:The Focus Course: https://special.thefocuscourse.comHighlights:20:37 The Burden of Opportunity: How to Say No45:40 The Pivot51:00 The Big Breakthrough
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  $1M CEO: How to ACTUALLY Sell Online Courses in 2026 | Sam Vander Wielen | 140 06.08.2026 1t 1min

  Are online courses really dead? I recently sat down with attorney-turned-entrepreneur Sam Vander Wielen to discuss her latest course launch that generated over half a million dollars in just four days.In this episode, Sam shares the exact strategies she uses to consistently achieve massive success with her webinars and online courses, proving that these methods are far from "dead" in today's creator economy.We also discuss the power of personalized customer interactions, Sam’s genius email list strategy that keeps her audience engaged and growing, and how she tackles the challenges of AI while maintaining an authentic and profitable brand.If you have a course or are thinking of building one, you need to watch this entire episode.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction: Courses, Launches, & AI01:20 Breaking Down a $500k Launch02:49 Consistent Revenue Beyond Launches04:48 Refilming with Kit Studios06:17 Webinar Sign-ups & Email List Growth14:00 The Weekly Lead Magnet Newsletter Strategy20:30 The Unscalable Strategy: Personalized Videos25:00 Unreasonable Hospitality & Handwritten Notes31:00 The Impact of Podcasting on Business Growth35:00 Order Bumps: Adding $100k to a Launch36:00 AI and the Legal Industry41:00 Financial Splurges: Cars & Property44:00 Investing in Your TeamIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Sam:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samvanderwielenWebsite: https://www.samvanderwielen.comPodcast: https://www.samvanderwielen.com/podcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samvanderwielenFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comTypeform: https://www.typeform.comSam's book: https://www.samvanderwielen.com/bookHighlights:01:20 Breaking Down a $500k Launch14:00 Newsletter Strategy20:30 The Power of Personalized Videos
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  Forget Courses, Launch This In 2026 To Double Your Revenue | Layla Pomper | 139 30.07.2026 1t 10min

  What does it take to build a $1.5M business with only a 20,000-person email list and a YouTube channel? I sat down with Layla Pomper, the founder of ProcessDriven, who has done exactly that. Layla built her business to 150,000 YouTube subscribers teaching small business owners how to systemize their operations. What I found particularly insightful was her journey from services to courses, and back to a hybrid model that's now allowed her to triple her income. She shares what she's seeing many creators miss, her unique approach to sales calls, and the "one weird trick" that made all the difference in her business. If you have a course or are thinking of building one, you need to watch this entire episode.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:16 Layla's revenue ceiling with courses02:47 Layla's original course model04:32 How Layla added services to break through the ceiling06:45 Pricing model of Layla's services08:15 Explanation of Layla's pricing structure11:00 Layla's counterintuitive sales strategy14:08 Key metrics Layla tracks in her business17:13 Finding and fixing bottlenecks20:44 The power of a small, engaged email list23:19 Revenue per subscriber analysis25:26 Simplifying complex business models32:46 The best of products and services combined40:15 Turning client questions into YouTube content49:00 The value of customer conversations in services57:24 The tailored productized service structure1:01:36 Mistakes when adding services1:03:07 The critical mistake of undercharging1:04:09 Layla's lead generation strategy1:07:08 YouTube content strategy and calls to actionIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Layla:Website: https://www.processdriven.coYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LaylaPomperLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laylapomperFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comThe Goal: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11128.The_GoalBuilt to Sell: https://builtosell.comSCORE: https://www.score.orgHighlights:01:29 – Breaking through the infamous revenue ceiling12:07 – The powerful impact of listening in sales30:30 – The circularity of business growth43:10 – Creating content by answering real questions55:18 – Giving customers what they actually want
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  How To Stand Out as a Writer in the Age of AI (2026) | David Perell | 138 23.07.2026 1t 36min

  My conversation with David Perell, host of the "How I Write" podcast and a truly prolific creator, took my understanding to a whole new level. He's one of the few people who has consistently challenged my thinking on how we communicate ideas effectively. In this episode, I dove deep with David into critical questions like: Does writing still hold its weight in today's crowded digital landscape? What specific elements should creators prioritize to make their words resonate? And importantly, how do you stand out when everyone else is shouting? David shares his incredible insights into the craft of writing, the power of observation, and his unique philosophy on identifying and leveraging "currents" to amplify your message. This was easily one of my favorite conversations on the show.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:15 Obsessed with the Craft of Writing02:45 The "Bit" as a Writing Concept05:10 Why People Struggle with Writing07:11 From Seeking Attention to Having Something to Say10:40 The Discipline of Public Writing13:58 Capturing and Curating Ideas20:05 Riding Internet Currents26:50 Identifying and Leveraging Currents32:10 Tying Timeless Ideas to Timely Moments39:15 Uncorrelated Sources of Inspiration45:36 The "How I Write" Podcast47:20 Production Value and Set Design1:00:40 YouTube Growth and Packaging1:04:40 The Guest Maximization Strategy1:10:00 Creating "The Modern World" Series1:16:00 The Modern Pollution of Man-Made Environment1:19:30 Interplay of the Creator Economy and the Modern World1:22:15 Creating the World You Want to Live In1:29:26 Using Art and History to Hone Taste1:34:00 The Soul-Stirring Work1:35:40 Where to Find DavidIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow David:X: https://twitter.com/david_perellWebsite: https://www.perell.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannelLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidperellFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comModern World (YouTube Channel): https://www.youtube.com/@TheModernWorldBuilding a Second Brain: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.comThe Artist's Way: https://juliacameronlive.com/books/the-artists-wayHighlights:01:15 – The obsession with writing as a craft.20:05 – Understanding and leveraging internet "currents" for content.40:30 – Why consuming uncorrelated content elevates your work.59:20 – The art of deep communication in interviewing.1:29:26 – Cultivating taste by actively discerning what you love and hate.
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  I Asked a Speaking Coach to Roast My Biggest Speech | Mike Pacchione | 137 16.07.2026 1t 15min

  I recently sat down with my speaking coach, Mike Pacchione, for this totally unprecedented episode where we dissect, minute by minute, my full keynote speech from this year's Craft + Commerce conference. We’re not holding anything back. Mike points out my flaws, celebrates my strengths, and reveals all the chaos that happens backstage that the audience never sees. If you've ever delivered a product launch, feared public speaking, or just want to understand the art of a compelling presentation, you'll learn so much from our candid conversation.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:03 Breaking Down the Keynote02:22 The Chaos Before the Stage04:02 The Missing Walk-Out Music07:44 The "Be a Zero" Concept09:47 Avoiding Speaker Voice13:17 Building Tension and Specificity19:19 The Stephen Colbert Joke20:52 The Dad's Wisdom Story28:16 The Challenge of Technical Terms34:03 Debating Product Announcement Timing40:35 The Elusive Applause Moment48:29 Katie's Spotlighting an Audience Member53:05 The Landing Page Humiliation Slide01:01:00 The New York City Event Space Announcement01:07:07 The Closing and Audience Reaction01:12:00 Rehearsal Techniques and Speaker NotesIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Mike:Freebie: https://bestspeech.co/nathanWebsite: https://bestspeech.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpacchioneInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mpaccX: https://x.com/mpaccFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comJohn Koenig - The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnkoenigThe State Change Method - Wes Kao: https://weskao.comThe Happiness Project - Gretchen Rubin: https://gretchenrubin.com/books/the-happiness-projectTim Urban TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/tim_urban_inside_the_mind_of_a_master_procrastinatorFramer: https://www.framer.comHighlights:01:03 – Mike critiques my keynote opening11:50 – The secret behind my opening pause25:06 – How real-world stories prove product value31:09 – The unexpected success of a borrowed joke53:10 – The power of a critical feedback slide 
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  #1 Speaking Coach Explains How to Master Speaking (In Just 58 Minutes) | Mike Pacchione | 136 09.07.2026 58min

  I've always brought Mike Pacchione in to coach every speaker at my Craft + Commerce conferences, including myself, because he has an uncanny ability to help people transform their talks from good to truly great. Mike's number one goal? For the audience to forget it's even a speech. In our conversation, Mike unpacks his framework for crafting compelling stories, why you should almost never tell them in chronological order, and his genius TED acronym for tension, editing for emotional impact, and the right details. He also shares invaluable insights on designing an ending that resonates and even how to strategically use humor (especially if you're not naturally funny). This episode is packed with lessons I've learned firsthand from Mike over the years.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:00 Making the audience forget it's a speech04:06 Setting the room up for success06:14 The power of stories in speeches08:39 Story selection and placement10:42 Why you don't need to tell stories in order11:11 Mike's TED acronym for storytelling: Tension14:55 Editing for emotional impact20:02 Crafting an engaging middle of a speech22:57 Asking questions to build tension24:37 Describing people in vivid detail (loglines)30:48 Crafting a powerful ending33:09 The "one more thing" strategy40:07 Controlling the emotional arc of a talk40:50 Using humor effectively44:09 The power of awkward silence and tension45:53 Cueing the audience for laughs and applause48:14 Leading the audience with your emotions50:57 Mike's take on using AI for speeches55:24 How to work with Mike Pacchione56:47 Mike's free resourceIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Mike:Freebie: https://bestspeech.co/nathanWebsite: https://bestspeech.coLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpacchioneInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mpaccX: https://x.com/mpaccFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comDuarte: https://www.duarte.comAtomic Habits: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habitsWP Engine: https://wpengine.comConvertKit: https://convertkit.comHighlights:02:01 – Getting the audience to forget it's a speech15:30 – Ending your story in the middle for maximum impact26:06 – Sarah: The person who eats quinoa for a cheat meal37:05 – Why you should never end your talk on Q&A53:02 – The point of a speech is to make an emotional connection
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  From Zero to $1M Before 30 - My Exact System | Mallory Rowan | 135 02.07.2026 1t 4min

  How do you build significant wealth in a way that feels sustainable and joyful, rather than sacrificing your mental and physical health? That's what I explored in my conversation with Mallory Rowan, who achieved a million-dollar net worth by age 29, but not without first hitting a wall of burnout at 22. Her story isn't just about financial metrics; it's a testament to redefining success and building a life where financial freedom supports personal well-being. I was particularly struck by her "Six Solutions Theory" and how she challenges the conventional wisdom about ambition versus balance. Join me as Mallory shares her unique approach to turning profit into compounding assets and creating a business that serves her life, not the other way around.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:06 Burnout at 22: Ignoring the whispers03:59 The toxic cycle of business, health, and happiness07:22 When you realize the limit keeps moving10:14 The collision of creativity and finances13:17 Rebuilding after burnout18:03 The difference between revenue and profit21:02 Making investing goals exciting27:26 Getting specific about building wealth30:45 The cottage purchase and creative financing32:02 Active income and first down payment34:03 The million dollars invested goal41:17 Why net worth goals matter more52:27 Having it all: Ambition and avoiding burnout55:28 Why behind the goal: The Toddler Test57:38 The categories: non-negotiables, nice-to-haves, experiments01:00:04 How a nest egg enables lighter living and creativityIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Mallory:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/malloryrowanYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theinbetweenerscoTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@malloryrowanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malloryrowan?originalSubdomain=caWebsite: https://malloryrowan.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHighlights:01:06 – Ignoring the whispers before burnout screams15:00 – Strategically building "boredom" into your business model25:21 – The "Thumbnailing" approach to problem-solving41:17 – Why net worth goals offer true financial freedom01:00:04 – How a solid nest egg allows for lighter, more playful business decisions
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  How I Went From $0 To 6 figures on Instagram (67-Minute Masterclass) | Gannon Meyer | 134 25.06.2026 1t 5min

  How do actually make meaningful money on Instagram? That's what I wanted to find out when I sat down with Gannon Meyer. He's figured out how to turn social media attention into actual revenue. My guest today, Gannon, went from living with his girlfriend's mom to building a thriving business in just 12 months, and he credits a huge part of that transformation to what he shares in our conversation. We dive deep into his "free, segment, upsell" framework for converting Instagram followers into paying customers, and I even get a direct critique of my own content strategy. If you're looking to monetize your audience on Instagram, you won't want to miss Gannon's insights.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:14 Converting Instagram attention into revenue03:33 Client examples and creator income levels06:47 The "Free, Segment, Upsell" funnel framework08:39 Using open-ended questions for better segmentation10:50 How ManyChat and AI interpret responses13:12 Real-world example: Adrian's camera business15:52 Good vs. bad open-ended questions18:18 Crafting a CTA for your free content22:00 Storytelling frameworks for strong retention30:07 Maximizing engagement with Instagram Stories33:22 The impact of CTAs on Instagram reach35:01 Why comments are crucial for discoverability44:19 The truth about views vs. revenue47:55 Deep diving into solving problems for revenue51:08 How Gannon's 'whiteboard' videos attract clients53:22 Gannon's life transformation in 12 months58:50 The realization: being willing to be wrong in public1:04:15 The power of putting yourself out thereIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Gannon:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gannon.meyerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@gannonmeyerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gannonmeyerFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHighlights:01:30 Gannon's approach to helping people sell their products16:17 How to ask open-ended questions effectively30:57 The PSA story framework for Instagram46:12 Why high views don't always equal high revenue59:57 The power of being willing to be wrong in public
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  Million Dollar Founder Explains How To Avoid Burnout In 2026 | Steve Kamb | 133 18.06.2026 1t 5min

  Why did this founder fire himself from his own company? That's what I wanted to find out when I sat down with Steve Kamb, founder of Nerd Fitness. We've known each other for a long time, and I've watched him build an incredible audience and business. But then, to my surprise, he "fired" himself – twice! Steve shares the surprising truth about chasing growth, the pitfalls of wearing the wrong hat in your own business, and how he rediscovered his passion for writing. His journey is a powerful reminder that sometimes, the true path to fulfillment means stepping away from the very thing you've so diligently built.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:10 Firing myself (twice!) from Nerd Fitness05:37 The five years I spent in the wrong seat07:20 The "If you're not growing, you're shrinking" myth10:37 How I realized writing is what lights me up12:55 When to double down on strengths vs. fix weaknesses18:19 The curated "all I do is win" internet vs. real life20:20 Sharing my failures: cancer, Google changing, divorce23:09 The overwhelming positive response to vulnerability24:06 How my book was born and evolved30:17 My visit to the Museum of Failure33:55 My PACT framework: Pause, Accept, Change, Try40:22 Everything old is new again in content49:00 The value of Craft + Commerce and community56:14 Longevity in creative work: falling in love with the craft1:02:43 How to Try Again: Where to find the bookIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Steve:How To Try Again (Book): https://howtotryagain.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevekambLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevekambYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/stevekambX: https://x.com/SteveKambNerd Fitness: https://www.nerdfitness.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comHow to Try Again: https://howtotryagain.comNerd Fitness: https://www.nerdfitness.comThe Museum of Failure: https://failuremuseum.com
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  Business Expert: The Secret Power of IP To Grow Your Business | Mo Bunnell | 132 11.06.2026 1t

  Codifying your knowledge into intellectual property (IP) is a crucial step for scaling any business, but what my guest Mo Bunnell shared in this episode completely changed my perspective on how to do it and the incredible impact it can have. Mo, author of Give to Grow and founder of the Bundle Idea Group, has built an astonishing career training professionals at some of the world's most prestigious organizations. He walked me through the evolution of his IP, from humble beginnings to the sophisticated materials he uses today to secure multi-six-figure contracts. This isn't something he typically breaks down publicly, and I was genuinely surprised by the tangible examples and actionable steps he provided for transforming a service-based business into an IP-driven powerhouse.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:29 Codifying your system in a weekend05:07 From intuition to framework: creating IP08:00 The evolution of training materials11:20 Essential elements of effective IP18:30 The economics of B2B and corporate clients21:00 How to get your first pilot clients26:00 Overcoming B2B objections29:00 Translating B2C IP to B2B corporate world31:00 Identifying high-leverage industries and roles34:00 Lowering the bar on perfection for B2B37:00 Lead magnets for decision-makers vs. users41:40 Advanced lead magnet strategies45:20 The power of public workshops49:40 Scaling beyond yourself: travel and certification52:45 Michael Hyatt's Business Accelerator growth56:00 The annuity effect of corporate trainingIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Mo:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mobunnellBunnell Idea Group: https://bunnellideagroup.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd0dvX8kfxF_MMz6IZT17kwGive to Grow: https://bunnellideagroup.com/givetogrowFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comThe Snowball System: How to Win More Business and Turn Customers into Raving Fans: https://www.amazon.com/Snowball-System-Business-Customers-Raving/dp/1640950343Unreasonable Hospitality: https://www.amazon.com/Unreasonable-Hospitality-Remarkable-Giving-People/dp/0593418193Highlights:01:04 – How Mo started codifying his IP04:08 – The power of IP to scale a business11:22 – Four components of world-class IP18:49 – The "this changes everything" B2B opportunity37:04 – Lead magnets for buyers versus users43:09 – James Clear's strategic review request56:00 – The annuity model of B2B corporate training
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  Russell Brunson: How To Build a Mass Movement | 131 04.06.2026 1t 1min

  I’ve always been fascinated by how some companies manage to create not just customers, but passionate communities who become true advocates. My guest today, Russell Brunson, has mastered this, building ClickFunnels to a staggering 100,000+ users *without any outside funding*. In our conversation, Russell broke down the exact framework he used to achieve this, a framework born from studying thousands of successful movements across history, politics, and even religion. If you've ever wondered how to inspire loyalty that goes beyond a simple transaction and transforms your audience into a committed tribe, this episode reveals the secrets to building a movement, not just a business.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:16 Studying Successful Movements03:30 From Educator to Movement Leader04:58 The Three Core Elements of a Movement06:25 The Attractive Character (The Guide)07:05 The New Opportunity (Not Just an Improvement)09:24 The Future-Based Cause12:12 Universal Principles in Movements13:17 The Power of Positioning18:47 Crafting the New Opportunity27:12 The Importance of Customer Alignment28:16 Cutting Through the Noise with Your Message33:23 The Power of Customer Stories35:12 Why General Messaging Can Be More Powerful46:17 Milestones and Awards for Motivation50:50 Creating Belief and Encouraging Progress52:33 Scaling with Progressive Achievement59:55 Where to Learn More from Russell BrunsonIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Russell:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/russellbrunsonYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2qUDKqTsz00csykCYgdLuALinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russellbrunsonFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/russbrunsonX: https://x.com/russellbrunsonWebsite: https://russellbrunson.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comExpert Secrets: https://expertsecrets.comClickFunnels: https://www.clickfunnels.comHighlights:06:09 – Every Movement Needs a Guide11:00 – The Power of a Future-Based Cause24:50 – The Importance of Actively Choosing Your Dream Customer47:50 – The Two Comma Club: Gamifying Entrepreneurial Success57:20 – Why People Care More About a Plaque Than Money
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  How To Actually Break Free From Your Limiting Beliefs (Nir Eyal) | 130 28.05.2026 49min

  Can you truly break through your own limitations and achieve what seems impossible? Today, I sit down with my friend Nir Eyal, the author of three bestselling books, including his latest, *Beyond Belief*, which just hit the New York Times bestseller list. Nir recently blew my mind when he told me he doesn't "believe in jet lag" after flying from Europe to Asia, and that was just the appetizer for our conversation. In his typical science-backed style, Nir reveals the surprising research behind why some people persist where others quit, and how our beliefs—not always our circumstances—are often the key to unlocking our full potential. He shares practical, data-driven strategies I'm already applying in my own life and creative work, and I think you will too.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:26 Belief and Placebos05:25 Why Placebo Effect is Getting Stronger06:59 When Pain is Not Suffering10:10 Hypnosedation and Unlocking Potential15:35 Applying Beliefs to Creative Process19:10 Chasing Happiness vs. Decreasing Suffering21:47 Why Positive Thinking Can Be Harmful26:34 Applying Belief-Shifting to Relationships31:03 Changing Your Mind and Beliefs35:35 Belief Problems, Not People Problems37:25 High Expectations, Low Control Leads to Burnout40:03 Internal vs. External Locus of Control44:27 The Rat Experiment and Persistence47:47 What's Next for Nir EyalIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://www.kit.comFollow Nir:Website: https://www.nirandfar.comX: https://twitter.com/nireyalLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyalBeyond Belief: https://www.nirandfar.com/beyondbeliefFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comBeyond Belief: https://www.nirandfar.com/beyondbeliefHighlights:01:31 – How belief separates suffering from symptoms06:17 – Why I don't want to hear about side effects15:06 – How I stopped suffering in my creative process25:29 – Visualizing how to deal with discomfort30:39 – Who I become when I hold onto a belief38:40 – Formula for burnout: high expectations, low control44:45 – How a change in belief increased a rat's persistence
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  James Clear: How To Actually Make It As An Author In 2026 | 129 21.05.2026 1t 4min

  What actually makes a bestseller? My two guests this episode, James Clear, author of Atomic Habits, which has sold over 30 million copies worldwide and is the best-selling book of the last decade, knows a thing or two about it. I also sit down with Madeline McIntosh, CEO of Penguin Random House US, where she's overseen the publication of over 1000 books. Together, James and Madeline have co-founded Authors Equity, a publishing model that completely inverts how authors are typically paid and how books are brought to market. In our conversation, they break down everything you need to know about publishing today, what works, what's broken, and how they're revolutionizing the industry with a win-win approach for authors.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:21 Publishing transformations Madeline has witnessed02:59 Madeline's motivation for founding Author's Equity05:14 The Author's Equity model compared to traditional publishing09:20 Why the author's equity model is beneficial14:03 The power of aligned incentives18:22 Author pain points solved by Author's Equity21:00 Selecting custom teams for each book24:45 Author's Equity's willingness to learn from authors28:22 Self-published authors joining Author's Equity31:07 Who Author's Equity is not for34:00 The win-win philosophy of Author's Equity36:05 Crafting books that sell for years39:00 The importance of building an audience as a nonfiction author41:40 The timeless desire and new vessel for delivering information46:00 Getting your best work in front of readers50:08 What makes books keep selling in year two and beyond53:10 Leveraging seasonal buying and promotional efforts55:22 The New York Times Bestseller list: commercial vs. psychological1:00:30 The most accurate bestseller list1:02:10 Reaching out to Author's EquityIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.com/?utm_campaign=29661554-nathan_barry_show&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=podcast&utm_term=nathanbarryshow&utm_content=youtube_descriptionFollow James:Website: https://jamesclear.comX: https://twitter.com/JamesClearInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jamesclearLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesclearFollow Madeline:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madelinemcintoshInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/madmciFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comAuthors Equity: https://authorsequity.com/Atomic Habits: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habitsHighlights:01:21 – Publishing before the internet and email09:20 – Authors no longer have to choose21:00 – Hand-selecting custom teams for each book31:07 – Avoiding books with a short shelf life47:03 – Value in the push and pull of ideas50:28 – The book has to sell itself1:00:30 – The most accurate bestseller list
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  How to Build a Million Dollar Creator Business (Masterclass) | Grant Baldwin & Bryan Harris | 128 14.05.2026 1t 42min

  How do you break through that elusive $1 million revenue ceiling in a creator business? That's the question I dove into with two incredible founders on this episode: Grant Baldwin of The Speaker Lab and Bryan Harris of Growth Tools. Both have scaled their businesses far beyond that mark, not with flashy tactics, but by building fundamentally great businesses. We chat about the counter-intuitive strategies that got them there, why simplifying your offer is often the fastest path to growth, and how tracking actual customer outcomes is a superpower that most businesses ignore. It's a candid conversation about the foundational shifts that unlock real, sustainable growth.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:27 Building a business without being the "dancing monkey"06:40 The million-dollar ceiling for creators12:01 Bryan's first million: simplifying to one core product16:21 Overvaluing sales and marketing vs. a great offer22:04 The "steakhouse vs. buffet" analogy for niche26:58 The shift in the creator economy with AI31:47 The future of SaaS and the role of relationships37:13 Bryan's shocking AI experience saving thousands42:33 Navigating the opportunities and concerns of AI48:08 The problem with tracking success rate53:29 Less information, shorter path, higher success rate coaching01:00:07 The importance of product and rallying a team01:06:52 The near-death experience of a refund-based guarantee01:13:51 Bryan's mistake: stopping getting your hands dirty too soon01:21:40 Grant's decision to wind down his businessIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Bryan:Website: https://growthtools.com/nathanLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harrisbryannashFollow Grant:Website: https://grantbaldwin.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gbaldwinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grant-baldwinFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comRework: https://basecamp.com/books/reworkStop Guessing: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59388878-stop-guessingWealth, Riches, and Money: https://www.amazon.com/Wealth-Riches-Money-Kingdom-Principles/dp/0984183864Highlights:06:10 What's the outcome if I stay on this path?12:01 SImplifying to one core product made everything easier.15:47 A great offer makes sales and marketing easier.31:12 When AI solutions are fundamentally 10x better.39:09 People's number one competitor is quitting.01:01:09 Track your outcomes to be in the top 0.01%.01:13:51 You need to keep your hands dirty as a founder.
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  Unreasonable Hospitality: The Secret to an Audience That Never Leaves | Will Guidara & Brian Canlis | 127 07.05.2026 1t 21min

  What's the secrets to unreasonable hospitality? That's what I wanted to find out when I sat down with Will Guidara and Brian Canlis. Will spent over a decade running Eleven Madison Park, the restaurant voted number one in the world, and Brian is the force behind Canlis in Seattle, one of the most respected fine dining institutions in the country. Their insights on hospitality extend far beyond the restaurant world, and I was particularly struck by how they've systematically approached building meaningful connections, both online and off. Their approach to "unreasonable hospitality" has completely reshaped how I think about every customer touchpoint in my own business, and there are so many actionable ideas here for any creator or entrepreneur.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:07 How Will and Brian started working together03:07 The first big project they worked on04:47 Brian's "friend internship" and meeting his wife05:56 Brian's career running Canlis08:26 The vision for their current business14:16 Shifting from consulting to creative studio16:18 The broad applicability of hospitality30:53 Chewy's pattern recognition and customer experience35:16 "What would have to be true?" for seemingly impossible goals45:40 Mapping every tiny guest interaction54:19 The value of "fresh eyes" and notebook feedback1:07:47 Why doing the "right thing" matters long-term1:09:15 The 95/5 rule for managing resources1:11:49 Opportunities to elevate the Kit platform experience1:15:16 Making powerful tools accessible and fun1:18:18 Celebrating user milestones and personalized momentsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Will:Website: https://unreasonablehospitality.comThe Field Guide: https://uhthefieldguide.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/wguidaraLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willguidaraFollow Brian:Website: https://unreasonablehospitality.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/bcanlisLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-canlis-2820122a6Featured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comUnreasonable Hospitality: https://unreasonablehospitality.comUnreasonable Hospitality Field Guide: https://uhthefieldguide.com
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  Inside a 1M+ Subscriber Newsletter (My Exact Strategy) | Sean Devlin | 126 30.04.2026 57min

  He's running a newsletter with over a million subscribers and an engagement rate that turns traditional wisdom on its head. Sean Devlin, a veteran in the newsletter space, pulled back the curtain to reveal the strategies behind his success. Having scaled "Nice News" to over 800,000 subscribers before its acquisition by Encyclopedia Britannica, and currently running "All Healthy" with an astounding 1.3 million subscribers and a 52% open rate, Sean is doing something different. He shares his unconventional approach to content, monetization, and growth that prioritizes reader value and long-term relationships over short-term metrics. If you're building an audience and want them to genuinely look forward to your emails, this episode is packed with actionable insights you won't want to miss.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:01 The power of habit-forming newsletter sections02:47 Why creators get email formats wrong04:09 The long-term perspective on engagement metrics06:40 Balancing clickbait with true value07:19 Achieving high open rates with a massive list09:46 Monetization through seamless sponsorships18:01 The art of increasing sponsorship rates20:56 Taking responsibility for advertiser performance22:14 Newsletter design and structure essentials27:10 Leveraging lead magnets and quizzes for acquisition30:51 Optimizing for subscriber payback period38:38 The content creation flywheel45:30 The overlooked importance of newsletter design47:27 Crafting an engaging newsletter opening51:11 Fixing underperforming emailsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comKit: https://kit.comFollow Sean:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seancdevlinAll Healthy: https://www.allhealthy.comFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comFeedly: https://feedly.comAirtable: https://www.airtable.comMidjourney: https://www.midjourney.comSpark Loop: https://www.sparkloop.appHighlights:01:01 – Designing sections for reader habit formation07:19 – Maintaining 50%+ open rates with 1.3M subscribers09:46 – Integrating sponsorships seamlessly within content15:01 – Iterating on flexible pricing for sponsors22:14 – Importance of visual design in newsletter trust30:51 – Reducing subscriber payback period strategies45:30 – Why newsletter design is a critical hot take