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Jonathan & Brad explore the world of Financial Independence. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate. How to pay off debt, Crush your grocery bill and travel the world for free. No topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.
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617 | The Hidden Assumption in Every Retirement Calculator 14.09.2026 1tMost retirement calculators assume your money needs to last until age 95. But if you're 55 years old today, average life expectancy is actually 79 for men and 82 for women. This single hidden assumption could mean the difference between retiring five years earlier or leaving millions unspent. Key Topics Discussed 00:00:00 - Introduction: The Hidden Assumption Brad introduces the concept that retirement calculators make an invisible assumption about longevity—typically planning to age 90-95—and explains why this matters for financial independence planning. 00:05:30 - Why Planning to 95 Is the Default Dr Bobby Dubois and Aubrey Williams explain why financial advisors default to age 95, the fear of running out of money, and how this ignores the risk of over-saving and under-living. 00:12:00 - Layers of Financial Conservatism Brad discusses multiple layers of conservative assumptions in retirement planning: lower returns, lower withdrawal rates, zero Social Security, and now longevity assumptions. 00:15:45 - Real Life Expectancy Numbers Dr Bobby provides actuarial data showing average life expectancy from birth (71-76) versus age 55 (79-82), and the probability of reaching age 90. 00:21:00 - The Financial Impact of Longevity Aubrey presents modeling showing how nest egg requirements change dramatically based on longevity assumptions—from $714K at age 79 to 41% higher at age 90. 00:28:30 - Dynamic Planning and Annual Updates Discussion of how mortality-adjusted planning changes over time and why annual plan updates are essential rather than lock-and-load strategies. 00:35:00 - Tools to Estimate Your Longevity Dr Bobby outlines practical methods: actuarial calculators, family history, cardiovascular risk calculators like the AHA Prevent tool, and genetic testing including APOE for dementia risk. 00:45:00 - Biological Age vs Chronological Age Discussion of biological clock testing and why these tests aren't ready for prime time, despite heavy marketing in the longevity space. 00:50:00 - Extending Your Healthspan Dr Bobby covers evidence-based interventions to reduce risk of heart disease and dementia: exercise, sleep, blood pressure control, weight management, and avoiding smoking. 00:58:00 - Wrap-up and Resources Final thoughts on updating assumptions, where to find Dr Bobby and Aubrey, and invitation for community feedback on future analysis scenarios. Notable Quotes Brad Barrett: "Every financial calculator has to make assumptions... but there's one assumption that's almost never discussed, even though it might be the single biggest one in the entire model. How long does your money need to last?" Dr Bobby Dubois: "The nest egg you need depends a lot on how long you're going to live. Imagine you're sixty-five and you're only going to live five years. Well, you don't need a whole lot of money. Imagine you're sixty-five and you're going to live to be one hundred five." Aubrey Williams: "Planning to ninety-five does answer one question, but by far, it's not the only question we should be looking at... it completely ignores the opposite risk that we live a shorter life and either we've saved too much, worked too long or spent too little." Dr Bobby Dubois: "If you are 60, what's the likelihood you'll live to be 90? For men, it's about a third, meaning two thirds won't. Women, it's about half might live to be 90." Aubrey Williams: "If hitting FI at 65, you live to age 79, you need $714,000. But if you live to 90, 11 years longer, then that nest egg needs to be 41% higher." Key Takeaways Calculate your own life expectancy using actuarial tools from the Society of Actuaries rather than accepting calculator defaults of 90-95 Research your family history of longevity—genetics account for roughly 50% of how long you'll live, especially for those reaching 100+ Use the American Heart Association's Prevent calculator to assess your 10-year and 30-year cardiovascular disease risk Consider genetic testing for APOE status to understand dementia ris… -
616 | How Should You Give Money to Your Kids? | 529s, UTMAs, Trump Accounts & More 07.09.2026 1t 9minMost parents rush to open 529 plans for newborns, convinced they're building their child's future. But here's what financial experts won't tell you: that decision might be destroying more value than it creates. The accounts marketed most aggressively to new parents often provide minimal benefit while eliminating the flexibility you'll actually need. Topics Discussed Introduction and Episode Framework (00:00:00) Brad Barrett sets the stage with Sean Mullaney and Cody Garrett for a discussion on gifting to children, account options, and the critical importance of maintaining optionality in financial planning. Motivations for Saving for Children (00:03:15) Cody Garrett presents ChooseFI community research revealing four primary motivations: giving children more options, helping them avoid debt struggles, protecting from hardship, and developing healthy money habits. Parental Financial Sufficiency First (00:10:30) The oxygen mask principle—parents must secure their own financial stability before transferring wealth to children. Parental financial instability creates burden for adult children. Three Objections to Early Transfers (00:15:45) Sean Mullaney outlines three major objections: profile mismatch between parent and child needs, destruction of option value, and the superiority of the step-up in basis alternative at death. Gift Tax and Estate Tax Framework (00:22:00) Discussion of the annual gift tax exclusion ($19,000 per recipient), lifetime exclusion ($15 million), and how the step-up in basis works to eliminate capital gains tax at death. 529 Plans Deep Dive (00:28:30) Cody Garrett explains 529 mechanics, qualified expenses, restricted use, and flexibility options. Sean Mullaney identifies optimal profiles: financially successful parents of teens, grandparents, or state tax benefit scenarios. Trump Accounts Overview (00:42:15) Sean Mullaney details the new Trump accounts: $1,000 government seed for 2025-2028 births, $5,000 annual contribution limit, domestic equity index requirement, and conversion to traditional IRA at age 18. UTMA/UGMA Custodial Accounts (00:52:00) Cody Garrett explains custodial brokerage accounts, the kiddie tax, asset transfer at age of majority, and alternative strategies using parent-owned accounts with identifiers for tracking. Custodial Roth IRAs and Earned Income (01:02:30) Discussion of Roth IRA contributions for children with earned income, the importance of legitimate work arrangements, and FAFSA implications of Roth withdrawals. Summary and Order of Operations (01:08:45) Cody Garrett summarizes the proper order: understand motivations first, assess sufficiency second, then explore mechanics. Start with the assumption of 'no' rather than optimizing toward 'yes.' Notable Quotes "The greatest financial gift you can give your child is your own financial stability." — Sean Mullaney "We don't want the product to lead the plan." — Cody Garrett "The best tax planning is both free and inevitable - the step up in basis at death." — Sean Mullaney "Minor children have no need for financial assets and can't even use them. My toddler goddaughter can't go to the grocery store and buy groceries with one thousand dollars." — Sean Mullaney "If you can have more options, you would always rather that than fewer, especially if the option that got you fewer options didn't really give you any significant benefit." — Brad Barrett Key Takeaways Assess your own financial sufficiency before considering any transfers to children—ensure your retirement is fully funded and you won't become a burden to adult children If you have a child born between 2025-2028, open a Trump account to claim the $1,000 government seed contribution, even if you don't plan to fund it further For children age 18+, verify account ownership transfer procedures at your brokerage if you hold UTMA/UGMA accounts—set up new logins and transfer procedures Consider using parent-owned taxable brokerage accounts with naming identifiers (e.g., 'Child's Name… -
615 | How to Get More Years of Freedom | Fritz Gilbert 31.08.2026 1t 17minEight years into financial independence, Fritz Gilbert discovered something surprising: learning to spend money is harder than learning to save it. After decades of optimizing every dollar toward early retirement, he found himself in a 90-minute internal debate over whether to spend an extra $3,500 on a better e-bike—despite being financially secure and ahead of his retirement projections. The Starting Line, Not the Finish 00:08:15 - Fritz introduces his core philosophy that FI isn't the finish line but the starting line. The accumulation phase requires one set of skills—discipline, frugality, optimization—but thriving in retirement demands completely different capabilities: curiosity, experimentation, and the ability to design an unscripted life. 00:12:45 - The two favorite words for post-FI life: curiosity and experimentation. Fritz explains how continuously trying new activities, volunteer opportunities, and ways of spending time creates a fulfilling retirement that evolves over time. 00:18:20 - Freedom for Fido charity work provides purpose and fulfillment. Fritz shares how his wife started a 501(c)(3) that builds free fences for low-income families with dogs on chains. They've completed 225 fences helping over 700 dogs with 200 volunteers, and Fritz offers mentorship to anyone wanting to start similar chapters. 00:32:10 - The natural shift from obsessing over numbers to focusing on non-financial aspects of life. Fritz describes how the financial planning that dominated pre-FI thinking fades into the background, replaced by questions about meaning, purpose, and how to spend time well. Fitness: The Other Side of the Freedom Equation 00:36:45 - A paradigm-shifting connection between saving and fitness. Fritz explains that while saving money buys years of freedom on the front end of life, physical fitness buys healthy years of freedom on the back end. Brad calls this "one of the most consequential ideas ever shared on ChooseFI." 00:45:30 - Learning the surprisingly difficult skill of spending money after decades of frugality. Both Brad and Fritz share personal struggles with spending decisions, from hotel room upgrades to gym memberships, illustrating the psychological challenge of the post-FI transition. 00:52:15 - The e-bike decision story: Fritz spent 90 minutes debating whether to buy a $5,000 e-bike versus a $1,500 traditional bike, despite being financially secure. He eventually realized he was ahead of his retirement projections and gave himself permission to spend. 00:58:40 - Reframing spending as "investments for non-financial returns." Fritz introduces the powerful mental shift of viewing retirement expenditures not as expenses but as investments that return health, memories, relationships, and experiences. Tax Planning and Portfolio Management 01:04:20 - Roth conversion strategy evolution. Fritz discusses his initial aggressive approach to Roth conversions and how his thinking changed after learning about risk-based guardrails from ChooseFI episode 566 with Aubrey Williams. 01:10:35 - How to achieve a zero percent effective tax rate in retirement. Brad explains the strategy combining standard deductions (about $32,000 for married filing jointly), Roth withdrawals, and long-term capital gains at 0% (up to about $96,000 of taxable income), allowing many FI retirees to cover expenses while paying zero federal income tax. 01:16:00 - Bond ladder strategy using Invesco BulletShares. Fritz details his shift from bond ETFs to specific bonds with staggered maturity dates, providing guaranteed income streams and tax planning flexibility while eliminating interest rate risk by holding to maturity. Notable Insights "FI isn't the finish line, it's really the starting line." — Fritz Gilbert "When you're pursuing FI, you're saving and investing to buy yourself more years of freedom on the front end. But once you get there, taking care of your health and fitness can add more healthy years of freedom on the back end. They're two si… -
614 | Getting Personal with Personal Finance: Oz Chen 24.08.2026 1t 3minMost Americans never truly disconnect from work—even on vacation. After decades of tying your identity, daily rhythm, and sense of worth to a paycheck, stepping away feels less like freedom and more like freefall. Oz Chen spent years financially independent before he could accept it, wrestling with the psychological gap between having enough money and being okay with not working. Key Topics Discussed Oz's Background and FI Journey (00:02:30) Oz shares his introduction to financial independence through Tim Ferriss's Four Hour Workweek, his career as a UX designer, and the moment he officially accepted being financially independent at 37—years after crossing the actual threshold. The Job That Changed Everything (00:08:15) After seven comfortable years at one tech company, management changes, an acquisition, and mounting burnout made Oz's dream job unsustainable. He reveals the "work policy statement" he'd written that predicted exactly when he'd need to leave. Taking FMLA Leave as an Experiment (00:15:40) Rather than quitting outright, Oz used 12 weeks of FMLA medical leave to test what not working would feel like. He set a deliberately low bar for success—sleep and play pickleball—instead of maintaining his productivity mindset. The Unexpected Layoff (00:22:30) During the final week of his sabbatical, Oz received a layoff notice with severance and garden leave. What could have felt devastating instead felt like "divine timing," perfectly aligning with his planned departure. Wrestling with Fear and Acceptance (00:28:00) Oz shares his practice of writing acceptance statements for every fear—from scarcity feelings to relationship changes. By acknowledging fears without resisting them, he reduced the suffering that comes from fighting his own emotions. Practical Strategies for Decumulation (00:35:45) Breaking down the scary process of drawing down investments: think month-by-month rather than annual withdrawals, and sell "junk" investments (random stocks, crypto) first before touching beloved index funds. Life After Work and Future Plans (00:42:20) Oz describes his current life taking community college music classes, learning trades, and planning for the next 2-3 years before potentially having children. He emphasizes honoring different life seasons and remaining flexible about future work. Notable Quotes Ginger: "Pain plus resistance equals suffering. The pain is part of the human experience, but the resistance is the thing that you can control." Oz Chen: "I accept that not having a paycheck coming in will feel weird and scary. I can have the feeling and it doesn't have to change what I'm doing." Oz Chen: "Clarity through action versus expecting clarity before action. Breaking things down into smaller components generates clarity." Oz Chen: "The productivity engine is something that often buzzes in the background for optimizers. There's always something to work on, always something to optimize." Oz Chen: "I realized my fear was a very generalized fear. Writing down that fear and asking, is that true? helped me see it's potentially a reversible decision." Key Takeaways Write a work policy statement listing specific conditions under which you'd leave your job, similar to an investor policy statement for market downturns Break down your fears by writing them out specifically, then question their validity and put dollar amounts to worst-case scenarios Create acceptance statements for your financial fears to reduce internal resistance rather than trying to eliminate fears entirely Calculate your first 3-6 months of expenses in retirement month-by-month rather than thinking about annual withdrawals to make decumulation less daunting Consider using all available time-off options (PTO, unpaid leave, FMLA if eligible) to experiment with extended breaks before making permanent career changes Identify "junk" investments in your portfolio that you'd be happy to sell first before touching core index fund holdings Set a low bar for success duri… -
613 | How Do You Know You're Making the Right Financial Decision? | Roundup with Ginger 17.08.2026 1t 2minEvery expert sounds convincing until you realize you've collected ten different "right" answers to the same retirement question. Brad Barrett recently found himself overwhelmed by competing FI strategies—from Cody Garrett's bond ladders to Aubrey Williams' risk-based guardrails—and came to a liberating conclusion: sometimes you just need to pick one and move on. Key Topics Discussed Navigating Conflicting Expert Advice (00:02:15) Ginger and Brad discuss the challenge of choosing between different expert strategies for bonds and withdrawal rates, including bond ladder approaches versus risk-based guardrails. Making Financial Decisions Without Certainty (00:10:30) Brad explores the psychology of decision-making in FI, discussing the 'sleep well at night' test and how to evaluate competing strategies when none are clearly wrong. Brad's Japan Trip: Spontaneity Over Optimization (00:22:45) Brad shares his spontaneous three-week Japan trip, including last-minute concert tickets, the cultural observations that impressed him, and learning to prioritize experience over perfect planning. The Kumano Kodo Trail Experience (00:35:20) Detailed discussion of hiking the Kumano Kodo pilgrimage trail, including logistics, luggage forwarding, trail conditions, and the decision to prioritize wellbeing over completion. Travel Rewards Strategy and Hotel Points (00:48:00) Ginger and Brad tackle practical travel rewards questions about card cancellation, point expiration, and strategies for using co-branded versus transferable points effectively. Notable Quotes Brad Barrett on expert advice overload: "I suspect if we had ten different experts in with ten different vehement opinions, I think you and I could be convinced on any of them which might suggest that I think you just pick one." Brad Barrett on simple withdrawal strategies: "It's very reasonable to just log in every month and say, hey, I need three thousand dollars this month, and you go and sell three thousand dollars worth of funds. There's nothing wrong with that." Ginger on decision paralysis: "How do we ultimately make these decisions? There comes a point when it's like, these all sound great, but I have to choose one." Brad Barrett on travel philosophy: "For me, travel is whatever I want to learn about myself, what I want to learn about what I want my life to look like in the future. And those little micro lessons are pretty useful." Brad Barrett on optimization: "I don't think life is necessarily about optimizing all the time. So I think that led to a much better trip." Key Takeaways Use Notebook LM to compare different expert strategies by inputting source documents from various FI experts you trust and having an AI-assisted conversation to clarify differences Consider consulting a fee-only CFP through services like Hello Nectarine ($175-400/hour) when you're within 1-2 years of retirement for specific guidance on withdrawal strategies Read 'Tax Planning To and Through Early Retirement' by Sean and Cody to better understand tax optimization strategies for early retirement Before canceling a co-branded credit card, verify points have transferred to the loyalty program and check the expiration policy for any free night certificates Calculate your potential tax liability in early retirement using the standard deduction and 0% long-term capital gains bracket to understand how much you can withdraw tax-free Research versatile travel clothing (Merino wool shirts, multi-purpose shorts) that work for both hiking and casual dining to simplify packing Explore Agoda for hotel booking in Asia and compare rates with standard travel rewards redemptions Resources and Links ChooseFI Episode 566 - Risk-Based Guardrails for Drawdown with Aubrey Williams ChooseFI Episode 606 - Target Date Funds with Cody Garrett ChooseFI Episode 594 - Travel Rewards Deep Dive with Noah ChooseFI Episode 601 - Travel Rewards Refresher for 2026 with Devin Gimbel ChooseFI Travel Resources Agoda - Hotel Booking Platform Noteb… -
612 | What Actually Happened? | Paige's FI Journey, Nine Years Later 12.08.2026 54minStarting with negative net worth at 47 in Los Angeles on $58,000 a year sounds impossible. Yet Paige reached financial independence by 56, retired early, and now lives exactly the life she designed. This isn't theory — this is what happened nine years after her first ChooseFI appearance. Key Topics Discussed 00:00:00 Introduction and The Alley Will Provide Brad welcomes Paige back nine years later and revisits the famous "alley will provide" philosophy. Paige shares modern examples including vintage outdoor furniture and garden bricks sourced for free, plus tips on Facebook Marketplace and neighborhood pickup days. 00:06:30 DIY Then and Now Discussion of how DIY has evolved in Paige's life, from teaching herself to plaster walls to handmaking trim. She explains how priorities shift as resources grow, choosing which projects deserve personal attention versus outsourcing. 00:12:00 The Journey from Negative to Positive Net Worth Paige recounts reaching positive net worth in 2017, quitting a toxic job in 2019 with newfound FU money, and serendipitously landing a better opportunity. Her career progression led to becoming a post-production supervisor with significant income growth. 00:22:15 COVID Market Crash and Bold Moves Paige reveals her contrarian decision to invest almost all her savings during the COVID market crash with only $1,000 in savings, living on unemployment she'd designed her life around. She explains trusting the math and seeing the dip as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. 00:30:00 Test Driving FI and First Withdrawals Currently on a sabbatical year test-driving FI, Paige shares the psychological experience of taking her first withdrawal from investments and choosing quarterly distributions. She discusses adjusted FI numbers and how her spending evolved while core frugality remained. 00:38:45 Living with Purpose and Community Paige explains how her 100-year-old home has become a haven for friends in need, never charging rent but creating a communal living environment. She reflects on the value of shared meals and how society's assumptions about independence are often wrong. 00:46:20 Age and Location as Superpowers A counterintuitive discussion about how starting FI in her mid-40s in Los Angeles actually became advantages. Knowing herself meant no identity crisis, higher income opportunities in LA offset costs, and decades of frugal living made the transition natural. 00:52:30 Freedom to Create Without Monetizing Paige shares her ultimate FI win: the ability to be the artist she always wanted to be without needing to monetize her creativity. She reflects on buying an extra decade of freedom and helping younger colleagues start their own FI journeys. Notable Quotes Paige: "You either trust the math or you don't trust the math. And I trust the math. It has served me and I've trusted the math for ten years and it's worked." Paige: "When you have something you want and you're getting something you want, you don't feel like you're sacrificing." Paige: "The great thing about FIRE is it asks you to say, who are you and what do you value most? And when you do that, somehow, the money does fall into place a little bit better." Paige: "I bought an extra ten years of freedom for myself than the average by just doing what I had already been doing." Paige: "I don't have to monetize my life anymore. I can just enjoy what I do as an artist solely to do it for my own personal enjoyment. And that is wonderful." Key Takeaways Design your budget to be survivable on unemployment income (or other safety net) to create flexibility for bold career moves and market opportunities Implement the 72-hour rule: add desired items to an online cart or "save for later" list and wait before purchasing to reduce impulse spending Identify your core values and audit whether your time and money align with what you say is most important — adjust accordingly Start quarterly portfolio withdrawals (rather than annual) if the psychological comfort of smalle… -
611 | ChooseFI Classic: Financial Independence on an Ordinary Income (Paige & Sam) 10.08.2026 1t 10minPaige started her journey to financial independence at 45 with student loans, negative net worth, and an average income in Los Angeles—yet she'll reach FI by 2025. Sam lives on $12,000 per year in the same expensive city and champions "retiring often" instead of early retirement. Together, they prove that every excuse about FI being impossible is just a limiting belief waiting to be shattered. Key Topics Discussed Introduction and Context 00:00:00 Brad provides context for this 2017 episode, explaining how Paige challenged their limiting belief about achieving FI in high cost of living areas. Paige's FI Discovery 00:05:00 Paige shares how she discovered FI at 44 after getting her first 'real' job, introduced by Sam to Mr. Money Mustache, and started her journey with negative net worth. Sam's Early FI Journey 00:15:00 Sam discusses how his parents automated investing for him, the importance of starting early, and his approach to 'retiring often' instead of just early retirement. Living on $12,000/Year in LA 00:25:00 Sam breaks down his extraordinarily low burn rate in Los Angeles, including creative housing solutions, no car payments, and extreme DIY lifestyle. The Alley Will Provide 00:35:00 Paige and Sam discuss their non-minimalist approach to possessions, finding everything from vacuum cleaners to furniture in alleys and thrift stores. Housing Arbitrage and The DIY House 00:45:00 Discussion of how they purchased a house with a gas leak for $475k in LA, using Sam's DIY skills to make it work despite traditional financing challenges. Breaking Down Limiting Beliefs 00:55:00 Paige addresses common excuses for not pursuing FI: late start, student loans, high cost of living, average income, and shows how she's overcoming each. Path to FI by 2025 01:05:00 Paige outlines her concrete plan to reach FI with less than $500k, leveraging the age 55 rule, catch-up contributions, and eventual Social Security. Hot Seat Round 01:15:00 Rapid-fire questions covering favorite blogs, articles, life hacks, biggest mistakes, and advice for their younger selves. Notable Quotes "The alley will provide." — Paige "Don't retire early, retire often." — Sam "The best time to start investing was twenty years ago. The second best time is today." — Sam "Earning more, but still living on thirty, I feel so much freer. It feels so different." — Paige "Forgive yourself for not having done it sooner. Because if you get hung up on that, you're just going to get stuck." — Sam Key Takeaways Calculate your own FI number using 25x your annual expenses, then work backwards to determine your timeline If you have kids, automate investing for them early—open accounts and make saving the default, not a decision Explore creative housing solutions in your area: roommates, house hacking, or arbitraging neighborhoods for lower rent Learn one new DIY skill per month using YouTube—start with something currently costing you money (car maintenance, home repairs) If you're over 50, maximize catch-up contributions to retirement accounts and research the age 55 rule for your 401(k) Track where free resources appear in your community—thrift stores, community boards, bulk trash days, online marketplaces Set up automatic transfers to investment accounts to remove decision fatigue and make saving the default Resources and Links ChooseFI Episode 041 (original) Mr. Money Mustache Blog Mad Fientist Blog Big ERN (Early Retirement Now) Jim Collins stock series Frugal Woods Personal Capital YouTube (DIY learning) Jocko Willink podcast -
610 | Sabbatical Success: Around the World in 367 Days 03.08.2026 49minA 40-year-old physician associate and his wife walked away from their jobs with $50,000 earmarked for a year of world travel. They returned having spent just $30,000—and visited 15+ countries across four continents. This isn't a story about deprivation or cutting corners. It's about strategic geography, intentional choices, and the freedom that comes from knowing exactly what you value. Key Topics Discussed Introduction and Background 00:00:00 Ginger introduces Zack, the "winner of life" from the 2025 end-of-year wins episode. Now 40 with a seven-month-old baby in Arizona, Zack reflects on how a year of travel reset his life trajectory. The Genesis of the Trip 00:03:30 Growing up poor but playing travel soccer planted early seeds. Working short emergency medicine shifts gave Zack flexible scheduling and the mental space to plan an exit strategy with his wife. Financial Foundation and Savings Rate 00:07:00 A 90%+ savings rate funded their dream. Complete financial transparency in marriage and childhood memories of family bankruptcy drove Zack to master personal finance young. Planning and Budgeting 00:10:00 They allocated $50,000 for travel plus another $50,000 for job hunting upon return. Research through books and blogs introduced "low burn and high burn" countries. Chasing the sun meant packing only lightweight clothing. The $30,000 Reality 00:15:00 Final spend: under $30,000. Strategies included medical volunteering, Workaway exchanges, teaching English for pay in London, hostels, homestays, and ruthless geo-arbitrage in Southeast Asia and South America. Travel Strategies and Workaway 00:20:00 Workaway connected them to free accommodation in exchange for skills. They secured a paid two-month teaching position in London and applied to opportunities like an alpaca farm in Norway (visa restrictions prevented that one). Building Community on the Road 00:28:00 Hostels, hiking groups, public transportation, and intentional conversations created friendships. A Malaysian engineer they met on a volcano hike later hosted them. Connection required showing up and being open. Life-Changing Inflection Points 00:33:00 Two moments shaped everything: his family's bankruptcy as a teenager and waking up in an ICU coma in 2018. The latter injected urgency into postponed dreams and clarified what mattered most. Overcoming Scarcity Mindset 00:38:00 Shifting from scarcity to abundance meant building systems aligned with core values. Evidence from past good decisions created confidence to bet on themselves. Favorite Destinations 00:44:00 Guatemala's active volcano El Fuego, cooking classes in Thailand, Colombia's unexpected beauty and value, Vietnam's month-long immersion, and the dream bucket-list destination of New Zealand. Reintegration and Lessons Learned 00:52:00 Coming home brought culture shock and relief from decision fatigue. They found jobs they loved. Travel isn't vacation—it's exhausting in different ways. Resources and Closing Thoughts 00:58:00 Rolf Potts' Vagabonding shaped their philosophy. Journaling preserved memories. No single resource fits everyone; customize your approach by exploring multiple perspectives. Notable Quotes Zack: "We ended up spending just under thirty thousand dollars. If I told you the list of activities we did and the places we visited, you would not think it was possible." Zack: "Easy decisions, hard life. Hard decisions, easy life. When you spend a lot of time thinking about the hard decisions and you go really deep on the core values of your life, then I think it makes it easier to create systems that will help you move forward." Zack: "Traveling teaches you simplicity in a very interesting way. When we came home at the end of the year, we had plenty of room to spare in our backpacks. Your mindset just really shifts from 'this is what we think we need' to 'this is what we need.'" Zack: "I woke up in a coma in the ICU. That experience really brought into perspective mortality and some sense of urgency to do… -
609 | How to Talk to Your Partner about FI | Jasper Lee 27.07.2026 59minYour spouse shoots down every FI conversation with "we can't afford it" or "retirement at 35 sounds crazy." You respond with better spreadsheets, tighter logic, more compelling numbers—and somehow make things worse. The problem isn't your math. It's that you're bringing a calculator to an emotional fight. Why FI Conversations Trigger Defensiveness 00:05:30 — When we talk about money, we're not really talking about money. We're talking about security, social status, control, self-worth, and love. FI challenges the social contract most people internalized since childhood: work until 65, then retire. Violating this norm triggers psychological reactance—the tendency to resist when autonomy feels threatened. 00:12:00 — Pursuing FI signals more than personal choices. It implies judgment about others' decisions. If you're pursuing work-optional status at 40, you're indirectly questioning why someone else plans to work until 67. That's why seemingly rational discussions about savings rates become emotionally charged. 00:18:00 — Five common mistakes guarantee FI conversations will fail: Leading with numbers instead of values Using community jargon ("4% rule," "coast FI") with outsiders Framing as "early retirement" rather than "work optional" Presenting FI as a done deal instead of a mutual exploration Evangelizing instead of listening The Communication Framework That Actually Works 00:28:00 — Start values-based conversations by asking open-ended questions: "If you woke up without work or money worries, what would your perfect Tuesday look like?" This explores shared desires without triggering resistance. People generate their own reasons for change—which proves far more persuasive than any argument you present. 00:35:00 — The elicit-provide-elicit framework from motivational interviewing: Elicit: Ask questions to understand their perspective first Provide: Share relevant information only after listening Elicit: Get their response to create dialogue, not lecture Instead of: "We should save 50% of our income to retire by 40." Try: "What does financial security mean to you? ... I've been reading about building flexibility into our careers. What aspects of that appeal to you?" 00:43:00 — Validation acknowledges concerns without requiring agreement. When your partner worries about market crashes, don't counter with historical data. Say: "I hear you're concerned about losing everything in a downturn. That's a legitimate worry worth addressing." Then explore solutions together. 00:50:00 — Regular money dates reduce emotional charge. Schedule monthly 30-minute check-ins specifically about finances. Make them pleasant—coffee shop, weekend morning, whatever feels special. Low-stakes repetition normalizes these conversations. When One Partner Resists FI 00:56:00 — First understand the resistance. What do they feel they're losing? Status from career advancement? Daily structure? Social connections? Address the emotional concern behind the objection. Start with minimal commitments rather than aggressive savings rates. Instead of "let's save 60% of income," try "what if we saved an extra $100 this month?" Build momentum through small wins that don't trigger reactance. 01:02:00 — The four essential communication skills: Open-ended questions (who, what, where, when, why, how) Affirmations (recognizing strengths and efforts) Reflections (repeating back what you heard) Summaries (pulling together themes from the conversation) Notable Quotes Jasper Lee: "You cannot beat an emotional objection with a logical argument." Jasper Lee: "When we talk about money, we're not really talking about money. We're talking about security, social status, control, your self-worth, love." Jasper Lee: "People are always more persuaded by arguments they generate themselves than by arguments you present to them." Brad Barrett: "The journey to FI is probably about ninety percent psychological and maybe only five percent to ten percent about the actual mechanics of money." Jas… -
608 | Die With Zero, Revisited 20.07.2026 1t 13minBrad Barrett's daughter just graduated high school. She's heading to college in a few months. The number of times he'll see her for the rest of his life? Already countable. This realization—visceral and unavoidable—brought him back to a conversation that changed both his and Chris Hutchins' lives nearly four years ago: their interview with Bill Perkins about Die with Zero. Key Topics Introduction and Episode Impact 00:00:00 Brad and Chris reflect on the massive impact Bill Perkins' Die with Zero episode had on their lives and why they wanted to revisit it. Seasons of Life and Time Bucketing 00:05:30 Brad discusses how the concepts of seasons of life and time bucketing fundamentally changed his perspective, especially as his daughter prepares for college, highlighting the fleeting nature of time with loved ones. The Optimization Trap 00:12:00 Chris shares his struggle with over-optimization, particularly around travel planning and points maximization, and how he's been re-evaluating what he's actually optimizing for in life. Frugality as Superpower and Liability 00:18:45 The hosts debate whether frugality is still a superpower, discussing how the skill of spending shifts throughout different stages of financial independence. Running the Numbers on Withdrawal Rates 00:28:00 Chris shares research on annuity rates and the 4% rule, revealing that 96% of the time people never touch their principal and discussing more rational ways to hedge against financial risk. What Are You Optimizing For? 00:38:15 Both hosts dig into the fundamental question of what they're optimizing for—discussing the Tuesday Project, baseline fulfillment, and creating great average days versus one-off experiences. Time, Work, and Life Balance 00:47:00 Chris processes his struggle with filling all available time with work-adjacent activities and discusses the challenge of setting boundaries when you love what you do. Action Items and Future Plans 00:58:30 The hosts commit to specific actions inspired by the episode, including Chris's summer camp idea for families and Brad's commitment to create time bucket lists. Notable Quotes "You should fear wasting your life more than you fear running out of money." — Brad Barrett (quoting Bill Perkins) "Time is everything. My daughter just graduated high school. She's going to William & Mary in a couple months and again, you talk about seasons of life. Combining this with Tim Urban's The Tail End article, you realize time is running out." — Brad Barrett "I think frugality is a superpower at times and then it becomes a liability at times." — Brad Barrett "What I know for certain is every day I'm running out of time. So that's like a metaphysical certainty. You are running out of time." — Brad Barrett "I've gotten good at spending more when things aren't crazy expensive. Where I still struggle tremendously is when I feel like I'm paying for something that there's a reasonable way to get it for a better deal." — Chris Hutchins Key Takeaways Create a time bucket list: Identify experiences you want to have and assign them to specific age ranges when they would be most meaningful and feasible Calculate your real financial safety margin: Determine if you're using a 2%, 3%, or 4% withdrawal rate and whether that level of conservatism is preventing you from enjoying life now Identify your seasons of life priorities: What matters most in your current season? Kids, health, travel, career? Allocate time and resources accordingly Audit your optimization habits: Are you optimizing for the right things? Is maximizing credit card points costing you more in time and stress than it's worth? Plan one 'season-appropriate' experience: Book something that leverages your current life stage, whether that's a trip with young kids or an adventure that requires physical fitness Consider giving to your children now: If you plan to leave an inheritance, evaluate whether giving some portion during their 20s-30s would have more impact than waiting until… -
607 | Other Mountains I Want to Climb | Diania Merriam 13.07.2026 1t 21minReaching financial independence is supposed to be the goal—but what if you get there and realize the real skill isn't earning or saving, but learning to spend? And what if the metric for business success has nothing to do with revenue growth and everything to do with protecting your nervous system? Key Topics Discussed Introduction and the Hidden Curriculum 00:00:00 Brad introduces the concept of life's hidden curriculum—essential lessons never explicitly taught but crucial to building extraordinary lives, including the question extraordinary people consistently ask: "What am I missing, and how could this be useful to me?" Redefining Business Success 00:08:00 Diania explains her counterintuitive decision to keep the EconoMe Conference capped at 500 attendees despite selling out 9+ months in advance, redefining success around maintaining a calm nervous system rather than maximizing revenue or scaling. Enoughness and Simplifying Life 00:15:00 A discussion about determining "enough" in business, friendships, and life overall. Brad shares why he chose not to scale ChooseFI to Dave Ramsey levels, and both explore the power of intentional constraints. The Tuesday Project 00:22:00 Brad introduces his framework for designing FI around what your ideal average Tuesday looks like—waking without an alarm, taking walks in green space, accessing amenities on foot—rather than focusing solely on extraordinary experiences. Daily Routines and Time Abundance 00:30:00 Diania shares her 4-5 AM morning routine, one-meeting-a-day philosophy, and how she structures days with intention and flexibility to protect both productivity and mental space. The Skill of Spending in FI 00:42:00 Both hosts examine the challenge of learning to spend money intentionally after reaching FI, including examples like grocery delivery services and making purchases without the scarcity-driven research habits that got them to FI. From Scarcity to Abundance 00:55:00 Diania reveals how her annual spending increased from $60K to over $100K—all on discretionary categories like health, relationships, generosity, and travel—while caring about money less than ever. She shares her recent $29K car purchase and why FI as a goal became irrelevant once the journey transformed her life. Values, Idealism, and Materialism 01:08:00 A deep exploration of understanding true values versus social programming, the realization of not actually wanting the status symbols you thought you did, and how reducing materialism creates space for idealism. Health and the Better Body Challenge 01:18:00 Diania details her transformative six-month fitness accountability challenge requiring 5 weekly workouts, 70,000 steps per week, daily protein goals, and data uploads—with a $100/week fine for missing targets. Backing Yourself Into a Corner 01:32:00 Discussion about public accountability, understanding what motivates you personally, and intentionally creating circumstances that ensure follow-through on worthy goals. Notable Quotes Brad Barrett: "A lot of people who consistently build extraordinary lives ask, what am I missing, and how could this be useful to me?" Diania Merriam: "Success is a calm nervous system for you personally." Diania Merriam: "I'm not looking for followers. I'm not looking for customers. I really look at them as my peers." Diania Merriam: "My risk has flipped from running out of money to running out of time. I am much more willing to waste money than to waste time." Diania Merriam: "The less materialistic I am, the more idealistic I get to be." Key Takeaways Identify one area where you're using scarcity mindset despite financial security and experiment with an abundance-based decision Design your Tuesday Project: write down what your ideal average Tuesday would look like in FI and identify what's preventing that now Audit your attention: identify what's stealing your focus in ways that don't align with your values and set one boundary Consider joining an accountability group for a goal… -
606 | Deep Dive: Target-Date Retirement and Bond Funds | Cody Garrett 06.07.2026 1t 8minMost investors think they're buying the same thing when they choose a target date fund—but two people who bought 2025 target date funds 15 years ago could have 40% different returns today. Same target year, wildly different outcomes. The culprit? Fund families structure these "simple" investments in dramatically different ways, and most investors never look under the hood. Key Topics Discussed Passive Investing vs Active Financial Planning (00:03:30) Cody explains why you should be a passive investor but an active financial planner in your own life, noting that 95% of active investors underperform broad index funds over time. Understanding Target Date Funds (00:08:15) How target date funds work as default 401(k) options, automatically shifting from aggressive to conservative allocations as retirement approaches along a predetermined glide path. Surprising Differences Between Target Date Funds (00:18:45) The revelation that identical retirement target years can produce vastly different outcomes depending on fund family—differences in international exposure, bond types, and allocation strategies compound over time. Comparing Fidelity, Schwab, and Vanguard Target Dates (00:24:00) Detailed breakdown of how three major fund families structure their target date index funds differently, with varying philosophies on diversification and risk management. The Hidden Costs of Target Date Funds (00:32:20) Analysis showing target date index funds cost 35% to 400% more than purchasing underlying index funds directly. Fidelity's target date index fund, for example, is four times more expensive than buying Fidelity's component funds separately. Static Allocation Funds Explained (00:38:10) Introduction to balanced funds that maintain constant allocations (like 60/40 stocks/bonds) regardless of your age or proximity to retirement. Target Maturity vs Constant Maturity Bond Funds (00:42:30) Deep dive into how target maturity bond funds differ from traditional bond index funds—all bonds mature in the same year, converting to cash automatically without requiring you to sell anything. The Seven-Year Bond Strategy (00:48:15) Cody's approach to determining bond allocation: calculate seven years of planned spending and hold that percentage in bonds. If you'll withdraw $40,000 annually from a $1 million portfolio, hold 28% in bonds ($280,000) and 72% in stocks. Bond Ladders and Behavioral Finance (00:55:00) How target maturity bond funds overcome psychological barriers to spending in retirement by eliminating the need to "sell" assets—bonds simply mature into cash when you need it. Simplicity vs Complexity in Portfolio Design (01:02:30) Cody shares his personal eight-fund retirement portfolio strategy, explaining why something that appears complex can actually feel simpler from a behavioral perspective. Notable Quotes Mike Piper, CPA (quoted by Cody Garrett, CFP®): "There is no perfect portfolio, but there are countless perfectly fine portfolios." Rick Ferri, CFA (quoted by Cody Garrett, CFP®): "The perfect portfolio is the one you're going to stick with. Maintaining discipline is the hardest part of investing." Cody Garrett, CFP®: "Once you understand what a target date fund is, you no longer need one." Cody Garrett, CFP®: "Investing is like a bar of soap. The more you touch it, the less there is." Brad Barrett: "Success in personal finance and investing comes down more to behavior, vastly more to behavior than it comes down to any type of knowledge or intelligence." Key Takeaways Review your 401(k) fund lineup and sort by expense ratio to identify the lowest-cost index fund options available to you If your 401(k) lacks low-cost index funds (under 0.10% expense ratio), contact your plan administrator to request they be added to the fund lineup Calculate how much money you plan to spend from your portfolio over the next seven years to determine your appropriate bond allocation Visit Morningstar.com and review the portfolio tab of any target date funds yo… -
605 | Retire in Less Than 10 Years 29.06.2026 1t 7minAt 21, Cody Berman appeared on ChooseFI as a college student discovering financial independence. Three years later, he retired at 26. Now 30 with a $5 million net worth, he's back to reveal exactly how he compressed a decades-long journey into a three-year sprint—and why the same principles work whether you're 25 or 55. The Journey from 22 to FI at 26 00:05:30 Cody's path to financial independence was methodical and aggressive. Between ages 22 and 25, he experimented with over 20 side hustles, scaling his income from $96K to more than $400K annually. The key? He kept expenses locked at just $24K per year—creating a massive gap of $625K over three years. That gap fueled three wealth-building engines: $500K in stock market investments (VOO, VTSAX, VTI) 13 rental properties generating $3,700/month in passive income Digital products businesses producing $10K/month By his 26th birthday, Cody had achieved "cashflow FI"—his passive income streams covered living expenses without touching his investment portfolio. The Psychology of Financial Independence 00:18:00 Brad and Cody explore why some people achieve FI while others with similar incomes stay stuck. The answer isn't math—it's psychology and awareness. Cody attributes his success to having a clear destination. When you know exactly where you're going and why it matters, spending $100 on something that doesn't serve that destination becomes harder than saying no. The infamous "second marshmallow" experiment demonstrates this: delaying gratification becomes easier when you're aware of what you're trading for. As Cody puts it: "Earn more, spend less, invest the gap. Very simple. That is financial independence in a nutshell." Passive Income Reality Check 00:28:00 Let's demolish the myth of truly passive income. Cody manages 13 rental properties—but spends just 4-5 hours per month on them. This represents the spectrum of passive income: not zero effort, but minimal effort relative to the returns. The secret? Working in seasons rather than constant hustle mode. Some months require more attention (tenant turnover, maintenance issues), while others are nearly hands-off. Cody's businesses also follow this pattern—periods of intense development followed by relative autopilot. Brad reinforces this with math: "Every $100 a month you can cut out of your budget is $30,000 less you need in your FI number." Over 20 years, that $100/month compounds to $60K invested. That's a $90K swing from a single optimization. Designing the Perfect Tuesday 00:42:00 Forget exotic vacations—FI is about winning on a random Tuesday. Cody and Lauren's ideal weekday reveals what financial independence actually looks like: Morning: Wake naturally, coffee together, workout (him: gym; her: Pilates), shower, work on creative projects they enjoy Midday: Lunch together, afternoon walk in their neighborhood, separate time for individual pursuits Evening: Dinner together, reading, quality time before bed Nothing dramatic. No yachts. Just complete autonomy over every hour of a normal day. They maintain this through monthly alignment meetings—typically at a restaurant over a nice meal—covering: Money and real estate Health and fitness Travel plans Relationships (with a safe space to address concerns) Friends and family A rotating category Goals for the next month They also record an annual video reviewing the year, creating a time capsule of their journey. Post-FI Life and the Book 00:58:00 What actually happens when you achieve FI? Cody shares the uncomfortable truth: "Anything that you say that you want to do and that you don't do is a Cody problem. Before FI, you can blame things on time. You can blame things on money." When those excuses disappear, you're left facing yourself. That can be liberating and terrifying. His new book, Retire by Thirty, addresses this and more. Like Tim Ferriss's The Four Hour Workweek, the title is provocative but the principles are universal. Whether you compress your FI journey from 50-55, 33… -
604 | Getting Personal With Personal Finance: Bill Yount 22.06.2026 1tBill Yount reached financial independence at 60—then froze. His financial advisor confirmed 100% security, yet instead of relief, he felt disoriented fog. The emergency medicine physician who transformed from YOLO spender to 40% saver now struggles with a question that haunts many late starters: if I'm financially free, why can't I leave? Key Topics Discussed 00:05:30 The Wake-Up Call: From YOLO to Financial Awareness Bill's trifecta of mistakes at age 50: being house poor after an underwater renovation, maintaining a single-digit savings rate, and panic-selling stocks at market bottom. A lawsuit became the catalyst for confronting financial reality and transforming to a 30-40% savings rate within a decade. 00:15:00 The Emotional Journey: Anger, Shame, and Transformation Processing the emotional weight of starting late requires confronting anger, shame, and regret. Bill explains how downsizing from material excess created unexpected freedom, and why late starters must do the psychological work alongside the mathematical calculations. 00:22:00 The Partnership: Wife's Role and Family Dynamics Bill's wife became Chief Visionary Officer, returned to work full-time, and they saved her entire income through solo 401(k)s. Their journey debunks the "rich doctor syndrome" myth—25% of physicians at age 60 aren't even millionaires. 00:28:00 The Fog of FI: Reaching the Number and Not Knowing What's Next Sitting across from a financial advisor who confirmed complete financial security, Bill experienced unexpected confusion instead of celebration. This disorienting state—FOGO, or fear of getting out—reveals how identity and emotion don't automatically align with mathematical achievement. 00:35:00 One More Year Syndrome and Identity Struggles Despite being FI, Bill continues working twelve-hour emergency medicine night shifts. He candidly explores identity wrapped up in being a doctor, the meaning derived from patient care, and the difficulty of imagining life beyond the hospital. 00:42:00 The Glide Path: Cutting Shifts and Taking Action After Doc G asked for "one good reason" to keep his current schedule and Bill couldn't answer, he committed to cutting two shifts per month. This gradual approach offers an alternative to the all-or-nothing retirement cliff. 00:50:00 Lessons for Late Starters: Beliefs and Barriers Common limiting beliefs that paralyze late starters include "I'm too far behind," "I don't make enough," and "I don't know enough." Bill emphasizes it's always the right time to start, and the math works the same regardless of income level. 00:58:00 Health, Wealth, and Future Planning A frank discussion about neglecting physical health during wealth accumulation. Bill commits to refocusing on exercise and wellness to minimize the gap between healthspan and lifespan during the "go-go years" of early retirement. 01:05:00 Community, Travel, and What's Next Future plans include traveling to Norway with his sons, speaking at KiwiFi in New Zealand, and an ambitious mission: ensuring every medical resident receives a financial plan by 2035. Notable Quotes Bill Yount: "The emphasis, as we say, on late starter is on the starting and not being late." Bill Yount: "Between stimulus and response is a space. And we need to embrace that space because in that space, we need to regulate and choose our response." Bill Yount: "Relationships compound better than money, I think." Bill Yount: "It's better late than never. And we can catch up to FI together." Ginger: "I think a lot of people say, oh, that person is like me, right? And if they can do it, I can do it." Key Takeaways Track your money completely: Know your net worth, understand expenses, and identify where money goes before creating a plan Implement a reverse budget: Save your target percentage (30-40% if possible) off the top first, then spend the rest according to values Address the emotional work: Process anger, shame, and regret about past mistakes. Forgiveness matters as much as spreads… -
603 | Crash Proof: The Science Of Stock Market Resilience | Brian Feroldi 15.06.2026 51minThe stock market crashes about once every three years—at least a 20% drop. Most investors panic and sell. But if you understood why markets always recover, you'd do the opposite. Brian Feroldi reveals three mechanical forces that guarantee long-term market resilience, transforming market crashes from terrifying events into predictable opportunities. Key Topics Discussed Introduction to Market Resilience (00:00:00) Brad Barrett introduces the concept of understanding market recovery through fundamental mechanics rather than accepting it on faith. Understanding Market Crashes (00:05:00) Brian explains crash frequency: 10% drops every eleven months, 15% every two years, 20% every three years, 30% once a decade, and 40%+ drops two to three times per century. Force #1: Stocks Follow Earnings (00:10:00) The first fundamental force—stock prices track corporate earnings over time. Brian introduces the man-and-dog analogy: the man (profits) walks steadily uphill while the dog (prices) runs wild on an elastic leash. Watch the man, not the dog. Force #2: Earnings Always Recover (00:25:00) Brian breaks down the five-phase economic recovery process: cost-cutting, cleansing, government intervention, innovation, and emergence. The Forest Fire Analogy (00:32:00) Economic downturns function like forest fires—clearing deadwood, eliminating weak competitors, and creating optimal conditions for new growth. The COVID pandemic demonstrated this: remote work jumped from under 10% to over 90% in four months. Force #3: Profits Rise Over Time (00:48:00) Five systematic drivers cause profits to rise: productivity gains, inflation, innovation, geographic expansion, and population growth. These forces ensure long-term upward trajectory despite temporary setbacks. Investor Psychology and Closing Thoughts (00:55:00) Discussion about investor behavior during crashes and the importance of saving this episode for future market downturns when emotional fortitude matters most. Notable Quotes "Stocks follow earnings. As go the earnings of a company or an index, also goes the price or the market value of that same index." — Brian Feroldi "The best time to buy is at the period of maximum pessimism. And the period of maximum pessimism is precisely when you absolutely do not want to buy." — Brian Feroldi "Ninety percent of good investing is how you behave in the 10% of time that things are not going well." — Brian Feroldi "Think of the man walking a dog on an elastic leash. The man represents profits, the dog represents stock prices. Watch the man, not the dog." — Brian Feroldi "Innovation accelerates when times are tough. Necessity is the mother of invention." — Brad Barrett and Brian Feroldi Key Takeaways Google "S&P 500 earnings" and study the 100-year chart showing earnings rather than just stock prices to see the steady upward march of the "man" Save this episode in your investor policy statement to re-listen during the next market crash when you need psychological reinforcement Set up automatic dollar-cost averaging contributions to retirement accounts and commit to never stopping them during downturns Review your asset allocation if you're within 10 years of financial independence to ensure appropriate risk levels and cash cushions Markets typically bottom when news is worst because prices predict earnings recovery 6-9 months ahead Resources and Links Why Does the Stock Market Go Up? by Brian Feroldi The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins JL Collins Guided Meditation for Market Drops Afford Anything Podcast with Paula Pant Camp FI Brian Feroldi on YouTube Brian Feroldi on Twitter/X Brian Feroldi on Instagram Brian Feroldi on Threads -
602 | FI 201 Beyond FI Basics: Asset Allocation & Market Psychology Mastery 08.06.2026 1t 1minMost investors lose to the market because they're trying to pick winners in a game where only 4% of stocks have created 100% of market wealth over the past century. The math isn't in your favor—but there's a simpler path that is. Key Topics Discussed Introduction to FI 201 (00:00:00) Jonathan introduces the concept of Financial Independence 201, explaining how it builds on FI 101 to help individuals progress from control to optimization and independence on their FI journey. The Genesis of FI 201 (00:05:30) Allen and Kristen explain how they identified the need for a 201-level presentation based on questions emerging from their St. Louis FI 101 sessions, particularly around investing concepts. Asset Allocation Fundamentals (00:15:00) Allen breaks down asset allocation as 'your money pie,' discussing how to balance growth, safety, and emergency funds while considering time horizons and diversification strategies. Risk Tolerance vs Risk Capacity (00:22:00) The team explores the critical difference between emotional risk tolerance and actual risk capacity, using examples from 2008 and 2020 market crashes to illustrate real-world application. Tax-Advantaged Account Strategies (00:35:00) Allen and Brad discuss the various tax treatments of investment accounts including 401(k)s, 457(b)s, Roth IRAs, HSAs, and taxable brokerage accounts, emphasizing lifetime tax optimization. Individual Stocks vs Index Funds (00:48:00) The hosts examine the data on individual stock picking, revealing that only 4% of stocks have contributed to 100% of market wealth over the past century, making a strong case for index investing. Dividends and Tax Control (00:55:00) Brad and Allen discuss why the FI community often prefers capital gains over dividend income, focusing on the importance of maintaining control over when and how you realize taxable events. Notable Quotes "You can't save your way to FI, you have to invest." — Allen Hansen "When there's a dip, you essentially get to buy the market on sale. If you love a bargain, this is it." — Brad Barrett "Why in the world do we not think that way when it comes to the market? Our brain completely flips. We're like, ah, we're scared." — Kristen Knapp "It's not what's my tax this year. It is what is going to be my tax burden over my lifetime." — Brad Barrett "The best investing lesson: stand there and do nothing. If you're invested, just don't do anything and you're going to be rewarded." — Allen Hansen Key Takeaways Assess your own risk tolerance and risk capacity honestly by considering how you would react to a 30% portfolio drop Review your current asset allocation across all accounts and determine if it aligns with your time horizon and financial goals Calculate the difference between your marginal and effective tax rates to understand your true tax burden Identify which tax-advantaged accounts you have access to (401k, 457b, 403b, HSA, IRA) and ensure you're maximizing employer matches Track every dollar of taxable income if you're on ACA subsidies or approaching any subsidy cliffs to avoid losing benefits Consider whether you have the right balance between taxable, tax-deferred, and tax-free accounts for maximum flexibility in retirement Join or start a local FI group to benefit from community wisdom and learn from others at different stages of the journey Review your portfolio for dividend-heavy investments and consider whether you'd prefer more control over when you realize taxable events Resources & Links FI Friends Travel The Simple Path to Wealth by J.L. Collins Tax Planning to and Through Early Retirement by Sean Mullaney and Cody Garrett ChooseFI Community App St. Louis FI Group BlackBerry Documentary (Netflix) Arizona State University Stock Market Wealth Study Brian Feroldi (individual stock investing advocate) Investopedia -
601 | Travel Rewards 101 | Devon Gimbel from Point Me to First Class 01.06.2026 1t 17minDevon Gimbel just booked over $250,000 in travel last year using credit card points—but she's the first to tell you award travel isn't "free." It's a strategy for 10x-ing your existing travel budget by strategically matching your routine spending to the right credit cards. Since ChooseFI's original Travel Rewards 101 in 2017, the landscape has matured: annual fees are higher, issuer rules are stricter, and new players like Bilt have revolutionized the game by letting you earn points on rent and mortgage payments. Yet the fundamentals remain: with deliberate card selection and an understanding of transferable points currencies, it's still entirely possible to unlock one to two meaningful trips per year—whether that's economy flights to national parks or first-class seats to Tokyo. Key Topics Discussed 00:00:00 - Introduction and State of Travel Rewards in 2026 Brad introduces Devon Gimbel and discusses how travel rewards have evolved since ChooseFI's first Travel Rewards 101 episode in 2017. They address whether earning significant travel value is still possible despite higher annual fees and stricter rules. 00:05:30 - The Evolution of Award Travel Community Devon reflects on how the travel rewards community has matured since 2013-2014, moving from a monotone focus on premium cabin travel to showcasing diverse travel styles including domestic trips, family travel, and national park adventures. 00:11:45 - Getting Started: First Steps for Beginners Devon outlines how beginners should approach travel rewards by analyzing their top spending categories and selecting one or two intentionally chosen credit cards with strong bonus categories rather than immediately pursuing dozens of sign-up bonuses. 00:16:20 - Sign-Up Bonuses vs. Everyday Spend Strategy Discussion of the balance between chasing new card welcome bonuses and building a sustainable credit card portfolio with strong category bonuses. Devon explains why a hybrid approach works better for most people than constantly opening new cards. 00:22:15 - Understanding Bonus Categories Deep dive into how credit card bonus categories work, why they matter, and how strategic matching of spending patterns to bonus categories can dramatically increase points earning without changing spending behavior. 00:30:00 - The Power of Flexibility Brad and Devon discuss various dimensions of flexibility in travel rewards including travel dates, destinations, airports, cabin class, and types of points currencies. They share contrasting examples from their recent Japan trips. 00:38:45 - Transferable vs. Fixed Points Currencies Devon explains the critical difference between transferable points programs (Chase, Amex, Capital One, Bilt, Citi) and fixed airline/hotel programs, comparing them to Visa gift cards versus single-merchant gift cards. 00:47:30 - The Rise of Bilt Rewards Discussion of how Bilt has emerged as a major transferable points currency, offering the ability to earn points on rent and mortgage payments while providing strong transfer partners that directly compete with Chase Ultimate Rewards. 00:55:00 - Credit Card Issuer Restrictions in 2026 Devon outlines how credit card eligibility rules have tightened, including Chase's evolving restrictions and once-per-lifetime language similar to American Express, emphasizing the importance of deliberate card selection. 01:02:15 - Calculating Travel Value and Points Redemption Devon shares her methodology for calculating the value of points redemptions using her family's Lufthansa first class trip as an example, discussing the difference between 'free travel' and maximizing travel budget value. 01:12:30 - How Devon Earns 6 Million Points Annually Transparent discussion of Devon's points earning including business expenses, mortgage payments through Bilt, quarterly taxes, shopping portals, and strategic use of bonus categories, with acknowledgment that her situation differs from average users. 01:22:00 - Partnership Strategy for Couples Devon expla… -
600 | FI 101: Teaching Financial Independence to Your Community 25.05.2026 1t 13minA dead local meetup group attracted just 5 people to its first gathering at a brewery. Two years later, that same group draws 70+ attendees to structured educational sessions, with newcomers driving across multiple states to participate. The transformation reveals something most personal finance education gets fundamentally wrong. Introduction and St. Louis Group Overview [00:00:00] Jonathan and Brad welcome Kristen Knapp and Allen Hansen to discuss how the St. Louis ChooseFI group became one of the most thriving communities in the country. Rebooting a Dormant Community [00:08:30] Kristen shares how she transformed a dormant St. Louis group after attending Camp FI, starting with brewery meetups and evolving to structured case studies that dramatically increased engagement. The Genesis of FI 101 [00:15:45] The hosts discuss how new members needed basic FI education, leading to the creation of a structured FI 101 program that attracted 70+ attendees and continues to grow. Kristen's Journey to Part-Time Work [00:22:10] Kristen shares her 30-year broadcast meteorology career and how the FI community gave her the confidence to negotiate a part-time arrangement, creating space for her FI Friends Travel venture. Allen's Perspective on Giving Back [00:31:20] Allen discusses his motivation to help others after reaching FI himself, emphasizing that anyone can make mistakes and still succeed on the path to financial independence. Structuring FI 101 Content [00:38:00] The group breaks down the essential components of FI 101: defining financial independence, the shockingly simple math of early retirement, and the financial order of operations. The Importance of Your Why [00:45:30] Jonathan proposes that understanding your personal why for FI should be the foundation of any FI 101 program, making it more compelling than traditional personal finance education. Investment Fees and Opportunity Cost [00:52:15] Brad delivers a detailed breakdown of how investment fees can cost millions over a lifetime, using concrete examples to illustrate the importance of low-cost index funds like VTI. Action Items and Next Steps [01:05:40] Allen outlines the two critical action items for FI 101 attendees: tracking net worth and monitoring spending, while the group discusses cadence for ongoing educational sessions. Preview of FI 201 and Future Plans [01:12:00] The hosts wrap up by discussing plans for a second episode covering FI 201 content and how local groups can iterate and improve their educational programming. Notable Quotes "I created what I wished existed. Nobody else is going to do it. Why not me?" — Kristen Knapp "After fifteen years of marriage, we finally hit broke. I think that resonates with people. We did it all wrong with credit card debt, you name it." — Allen Hansen "You can't save your way to FI. It's just almost impossible. You have to invest those dollars." — Allen Hansen "FI is not this passive endeavor and FI is not just about the nuts and bolts of money. This is about a constantly evolving mental framework." — Brad Barrett "Being around other people on the same path is one hundred percent the reason I've been able to create this life, because I would have never even had the idea or the courage to do any of this." — Kristen Knapp Key Takeaways Your savings rate matters more than your income. Someone earning $50,000 and saving 50% will reach FI faster than someone earning $150,000 but saving only 10%. Investment fees compound negatively. A 1% advisor fee plus 1% fund fees can reduce a potential $7.2 million portfolio to just $3.9 million over 40 years. Your FI number is calculated by multiplying annual expenses by 25, based on the 4% safe withdrawal rule. Understanding your personal "why" for pursuing FI is more compelling than traditional budgeting advice and provides the motivation needed for long-term success. Community makes the difference. Local FI groups provide accountability, education, and the courage to make life-changing decis… -
599 | ABLE Accounts: Major Update | Brynne Conroy 18.05.2026 36minBrynne Conroy joins to discuss 529A ABLE accounts and massive new changes that nearly double eligibility for these accounts for those with disabilities. -
598 | Deep Dive Hot Seat with Brad and Ginger 11.05.2026 55minGinger asks Brad a series of hard hitting questions on life and FI.
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