The Big Bad Broadcast

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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 248 -- One Hit Wonders 11.09.2026 1t 7min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a variety of entertaining and often absurd topics, starting with a wild story about a couple who climbed the Empire State Building for a marriage proposal. We discuss the lengths people go to for grand gestures and how it often sets unrealistic expectations for others. As we transition into parenting, we share our experiences with our children, touching on the joys and challenges of raising kids, including the differences in wanting boys versus girls. We also reminisce about our own childhoods and the unique quirks of our families. The conversation takes a humorous turn as we explore bizarre news stories, including a Florida woman who attempted to smuggle cocaine into jail in a rather unconventional way. This leads us to discuss the ridiculousness of some criminal behaviors and the often absurd nature of the justice system. We then shift gears to talk about one-hit wonders in music, reminiscing about iconic songs and artists that defined our youth. From "Achy Breaky Heart" to "Mambo No. 5," we reflect on the fleeting nature of fame and the bittersweet reality of being a one-hit wonder. Throughout the episode, we maintain our signature banter, sharing laughs and insights as we navigate these eclectic topics. Join us for a fun and engaging discussion that highlights the quirks of life, love, and the pursuit of happiness! Hey! We had some fun... Gotta run.
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 247 -- Acting, Dogs, and the Magic Castle 04.09.2026 1t 7min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively and humorous discussion about trying to book a performance at the Magic Castle after a long hiatus. Here is the link to the Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI4iNmbWjHU We reflect on the challenges of gaining recognition in the industry, especially when working with new management. The conversation shifts to the pressures of performing in front of live audiences and the nerves that come with it, as both John and Mike reminisce about their experiences with famous personalities and the intimidation that can arise from working alongside them. We also touch on the absurdities of celebrity culture, including a funny anecdote about running into Keith Richards and Woody Allen. The episode takes a light-hearted turn as we discuss the quirks of our pets, particularly how our dogs can be picky eaters and how they seem to have a better sense of taste than we might expect. Throughout the episode, we share laughs, stories, and insights into the world of entertainment, making it a fun and relatable listen for anyone who enjoys comedy, magic, and the ups and downs of show business. Join us for a good time filled with laughter and camaraderie! Hey, we had some fun. 3, 2, 1. Gotta run.
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 246 -- Charles Bach 28.08.2026 1t 2min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we had the pleasure of welcoming Charles Bach, a talented illusionist and magician who owns his own theater in Myrtle Beach. Charles Bach Wonders! A Magical Experience March 17 - Dec 31. https://www.wonderstickets.com The episode kicked off with some light-hearted banter about our internet troubles and the quirks of modern life, including the challenges of reclining chairs and the absurdity of our reliance on technology. As we delved into Charles's background, he shared his journey from growing up in St. Louis to pursuing dance and theater, inspired by the legendary Doug Henning. We discussed how dance training has influenced his magic performances and the unique experiences he had while working in various dance companies and on cruise ships. Charles recounted his transition from performing on ships to establishing his theater in Myrtle Beach, highlighting the serendipitous moments that led him to this vibrant tourist destination. We also touched on the impact of COVID-19 on his theater, how he adapted during the shutdown, and the importance of planning for the future. The conversation shifted to the upcoming Magic at the Beach convention, which Charles helped revive after a nine-year hiatus. We explored the blend of magicians and laypeople at the event, emphasizing the joy of sharing magic with a broader audience. Throughout the episode, we reflected on the camaraderie among magicians, the challenges of peer critique, and the importance of performance and presentation in magic. Charles's passion for his craft and his commitment to entertaining audiences shone through, making for an engaging and insightful discussion. Join us for this entertaining episode filled with laughter, stories, and a deep appreciation for the art of magic! As always, we had some fun; gotta run. 
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 245 -- Michael Carbonaro: Wonderboy 21.08.2026 1t 7min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we welcome the incredibly talented magician and TV personality, Michael Carbonaro. We kick things off with some light banter about the nature of our show and the dynamics between John and Mike. Michael shares his excitement about his new tour, "Wonder Boy," and the challenges of creating fresh material for live audiences. MICHAEL CARBONARO: WONDERBOY LIVE TOUR PROMO VIDEO We dive into a discussion about the evolution of entertainment, touching on the absurdity of past safety regulations and how they might have contributed to the survival of "stupid people." Michael reflects on his experiences with fame, the recognition he receives, and the sometimes invasive nature of being a public figure. He shares a hilarious story about trying to go incognito at a magic convention, only to be recognized by a young fan. As we explore Michael's journey, he reveals the behind-the-scenes work that goes into his show, "The Carbonaro Effect," including the creative process and the collaborative efforts with his team. We discuss the unique challenges of performing live magic and the thrill of engaging with diverse audiences. Michael also shares anecdotes from his virtual shows during the pandemic, highlighting the innovative ways he kept his magic alive and connected with fans. We wrap up with a conversation about the pressures of performing on television and the importance of staying true to oneself as an artist. Join us for a fun and insightful episode filled with laughter, magic, and a glimpse into the world of a master magician! We had some fun; now we gotta run.  https://www.michaelcarbonaro.com/
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 244 -- Comedy, Stonehenge, and Italy 14.08.2026 1t 6min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively and humorous conversation filled with anecdotes, travel stories, and reflections on the comedy scene. John Ferrentino kicks things off by thanking our special guests who contributed to the show’s intro, including Jackie Martling, Tommy Chong, and Billy Gardell. We start by discussing Mike Grief's recent upgrade to a new microphone, hoping to improve our audio quality after some issues in previous episodes. The conversation quickly shifts to our shared experiences at iconic sites like Stonehenge and the Parthenon, where we reminisce about the magical energy of these historic sites and the absurdities of travel, including the challenges of visiting famous landmarks such as the Colosseum and Pompeii. As we share our travel tales, we touch on the quirks of European strikes and the unexpected humor found in our adventures. We also delve into the world of comedy, reminiscing about the talented comedians we've encountered over the years, including Dom Irera, Dennis Wolfberg, and Jon Stewart. We reflect on the ups and downs of their careers and the unpredictable nature of show business. Throughout the episode, we sprinkle in jokes and light-hearted banter, including a pirate joke that brings a laugh. We also discuss the importance of fishing trips and the joy of catching and cooking fresh fish, highlighting life's simple pleasures. As we wrap up, we promote an upcoming Valentine's Day cruise event featuring a lineup of comedians. Here is the website: https://bestatseatours.com/trip/long-island-comedy-reunion-cruise/. Join us for a fun-filled hour of laughter, nostalgia, and camaraderie as we navigate the world of comedy and travel! Hey, we had some fun...
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 243 -- Kozy's Comedy & Magic Show 07.08.2026 1t 4min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively and humorous discussion with our guest, Paul Kozak, affectionately known as Cozy. We kick things off with a classic joke that sets the tone for our lighthearted banter. As we transition into the main segment, we explore the quirks of everyday life, including the absurdity of food expiration dates, particularly focusing on relish, which sparks a passionate debate about food waste. Cozy shares his experiences living in Hawaii, painting a vivid picture of the island's beauty and the differences between its various regions. We reminisce about our early careers in comedy and magic, reflecting on the challenges and triumphs of being a performer in a competitive industry. Cozy recounts his journey from Pittsburgh to becoming a successful magician and artist, highlighting the evolution of magic in the entertainment world. Throughout the episode, we discuss the importance of originality in comedy and magic, the impact of shows like America's Got Talent on the perception of magic, and the camaraderie and rivalry among performers. We also touch on the significance of storytelling in our acts and how our experiences have shaped our performances over the years. As we wrap up, Cozy shares insights into his current work as an artist and the unique business model he has created by combining an art gallery with a performance space. This episode is filled with laughter, nostalgia, and valuable lessons about creativity, resilience, and the ever-evolving landscape of entertainment. Tune in for a fun and engaging conversation that celebrates the art of performance! Hey! We had some fun... Gotta run.
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 241 -- Frothy Coffee, Flat Tires, and Hawaii 31.07.2026 1t 4min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a recent experience of getting a flat tire while driving home late at night, which leads to a reflection on life’s fragility and the importance of enjoying the little things, like frothy coffee. This segues into a lighthearted conversation about personal grooming and the evolving standards of masculinity. We then transition to movie talk, reviewing the surprisingly heartwarming film "Violent Night," featuring a Santa Claus who takes on bad guys with a sledgehammer. The absurdity of the premise has us laughing and reminiscing about our favorite jokes, including some classic tasteless humor. John shares his recent trip to Hawaii, detailing his adventures on the Road to Hana and the breathtaking sights he encountered, including a visit to the original Jurassic Park filming location. We discuss the challenges of traveling, the high costs of dining in Hawaii, and the unique experiences of a luau. As the episode progresses, we touch on the dangers of surfing and the unexpected moments that can lead to panic, whether it’s drifting too far while surfing or the anxiety of swimming in unfamiliar waters. We wrap up with a discussion about overcoming fears and the importance of not letting physical limitations hold us back from enjoying life. Join us for a fun-filled episode packed with laughter, stories, and a bit of introspection as we navigate through the ups and downs of life, all while keeping the spirit of the Big Bad Broadcast alive! Thank you for listening; we had some fun... Gotta Run! 
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 240 -- Larry Walters Balloon 24.07.2026 1t 6min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively and humorous conversation filled with anecdotes, reflections, and a touch of nostalgia. John shares his experiences as a magician on Disney Cruise Lines, revealing the challenges of entertaining a crowd that includes very young children. He recounts a hilarious incident where he was introduced by a guy in a Winnie the Pooh costume, leading to a memorable moment that had the audience roaring with laughter. We also explore deeper themes, such as the life lessons embedded in childhood stories like Winnie the Pooh and the importance of courage and acceptance, as illustrated by characters like Piglet and Eeyore. The discussion takes a humorous turn as we reminisce about classic cartoons and their underlying messages, highlighting how they shaped our understanding of acceptance and individuality. As we navigate through various topics, including the role of the emcee in comedy shows and the pressures of performing, we share laughs and insights about the world of entertainment. The episode wraps up with some light-hearted jokes, showcasing our signature blend of humor and reflection. Join us for a fun ride filled with laughter, stories, and a few unexpected twists! Hey! We had some fun...
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 239 -- Danika Portz 17.07.2026 1t 7min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we kick things off by celebrating 29 years of sobriety, while discussing the importance of inspiration and signs from the universe. We then welcome our special guest, Danika Portz, a talented songwriter and performer from Nashville. Danika shares her journey in the music industry, including her experiences touring with the Armed Forces and the joy of bringing a slice of home to troops stationed overseas. We dive into the songwriting process, exploring how personal experiences and collaboration shape her music. Throughout the episode, we touch on the impact of AI on creativity, the importance of live performances, and the unique connection that music fosters among people. Danica reflects on her influences, the storytelling aspect of her songs, and how she draws inspiration from both her life and the world around her. As we reminisce about the power of music to evoke memories and emotions, we also discuss the challenges and triumphs of pursuing a career in the arts. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of creativity, connection, and the magic of music, leaving listeners inspired to find their own paths in life. Hey, we had some fun......
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 238 -- Fred Klett, Part 2 10.07.2026 1t 8min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a hilarious and candid conversation with our guests, Fred Klitt.. We kick things off with a light-hearted banter about phone spam and the annoyance of unsolicited calls, leading to some creative ways to deal with telemarketers. As the discussion unfolds, we share our experiences with door-to-door salespeople and the absurdity of their tactics, including some funny anecdotes about Jehovah's Witnesses. We also touch on our school days, reminiscing about gym class antics, the absurdity of community showers, and the eccentricities of our gym teachers. The conversation takes a turn towards the medical field as we discuss the incredible work of nurses, particularly Nancy, who has extensive experience in emergency care. We share stories from the hospital, including the challenges of working in pediatrics and the intense situations that nurses face daily. We also delve into some outrageous tales, including a wild story about a cat burglar who had a rather unfortunate accident. The episode is filled with laughter, nostalgia, and a healthy dose of humor about life's absurdities, making it a must-listen for anyone looking to enjoy a good laugh while reflecting on life's quirks. Join us for this entertaining ride, and remember, if you ever find yourself in a tough spot, just call on your friends—unless it's me, because I might just smother you! #HadSomeFun
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 237 -- Fred Klett 03.07.2026 1t 11min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into the chaotic yet hilarious world of hosting parties, dealing with fireworks, and the absurdities of aging. Our guest, Fred Klett talks about the unexpected hilarity of performing stand-up comedy in unusual situations. We share personal anecdotes about our experiences with 4th of July celebrations, including the trauma our pets endure during fireworks displays. Fred recounts a particularly memorable night on a cruise where he had to entertain an audience still wearing life jackets after a safety drill, while Mike shares his own comedic mishaps and the pressures of performing live. As we navigate through topics like the evolution of technology, the quirks of aging, and the absurdity of our pasts, we find humor in the everyday struggles we all face. From the challenges of remembering material for performances to the ridiculousness of our youth, this episode is packed with laughter and relatable moments. Join us for a fun-filled ride as we explore the lighter side of life, friendship, and the art of comedy! Had some fun, gotta run.
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 236 -- Hoarders, Yo-Yos & Rock Shows 26.06.2026 1t 5min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively and humorous conversation filled with anecdotes and reflections on our lives, careers, and the world around us. We discuss everything from our hoarding tendencies and the treasures we've collected over the years to the spiritual significance of various talismans we wear. We share our plans to declutter our lives, selling off some sneakers and other items. We explore the world of collectibles, including baseball cards, yo-yo demonstrations, and the nostalgia that comes with it. As we meander through topics, we touch on the absurdity of hunting and its ethics, leading to a discussion of the animals that pose real dangers to humans. We also reflect on our experiences in show business, with John sharing his time as the opening act for Crosby, Stills, and Nash, as well as the unique lifestyle that comes with touring. Throughout the episode, we maintain our signature banter, filled with humor and camaraderie, as we navigate a range of subjects, from the mundane to the profound. Join us for a fun and engaging episode that captures the essence of our friendship and the quirky adventures we've had along the way! Hey, we had some fun, gotta run.
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 235 -- John and Mike on Life 19.06.2026 1t 6min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a mix of humor, nostalgia, and introspection. We kick things off with a light-hearted story about a college professor and his playful antics with his wife, setting the tone for a fun discussion. We talk about our celebrity guests who introduce the show, including Tommy Chong, Lance Burton, and Michael Carbonaro, and we reflect on the nature of humor and how our listeners appreciate the playful jabs from these stars. The conversation shifts to personal reflections, where we share feelings of self-doubt and compulsions, particularly regarding body odor and cologne, leading to a humorous exchange about our obsessions. We also touch on the quirks of online shopping, recounting experiences with package deliveries and the frustrations of hidden items. The episode takes a nostalgic turn as I reminisce about my early career in comedy, sharing stories about my first TV appearance and the journey that led me to work with notable figures in the industry. Throughout the episode, we explore themes of reflection and life's satisfactions, discussing the highs of our careers and the joys of family.  We wrap up with a humorous take on sports, comparing the intensity of basketball to the more relaxed nature of our youth sports experiences. The episode is filled with laughter, insightful moments, and a reminder that while we cherish our past, the future holds even more potential for joy and fulfillment.
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 234 -- Las Vegas Lives, Mom Jokes, and Weird Facts. 12.06.2026 1t 9min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively discussion about our recent experiences in Las Vegas, where the energy is alive and well despite rumors of its decline. There is excitement about the basketball games and the Golden Knights hockey team, while some people lack interest in basketball and only tune in to watch the crowd's reaction to Trump. We delve into the frustrations of driving, particularly in the left lane, and the absurdity of road rage. We rant about the ridiculousness of drivers who speed up when you try to pass them, and we touch on the controversial law that the left lane is only for passing, which sparks a heated debate. As we transition to lighter topics, we discuss our upcoming Long Island comedy reunion cruise featuring notable comedians. Vegas trips, Jackpots, the thrill of gambling, and the excitement of winning. We also explore the world of "Mom Jokes" versus "Dad Jokes", sharing some humorous attempts and debating their merits. The episode is filled with laughter, anecdotes about our fathers, and reflections on the gambling culture in Vegas, making for an entertaining and relatable conversation. Join us for a fun ride through our Vegas adventures and comedic musings!
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 233 -- AI, Dad Jokes, and Bottled Water 05.06.2026 1t 7min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a variety of topics, from the joys and challenges of home improvement to the quirks of nature in our backyards. John and I share our landscaping experiences, including the challenges of maintaining grass in a desert environment and the unexpected beauty of the ecosystems we've discovered while working outdoors. We also reminisce about our past comedy experiences, including an upcoming Long Island Comedy Club reunion featuring some familiar faces. The conversation takes a humorous turn as we discuss the absurdities of homeownership, such as dealing with sprinkler systems and the costs of maintaining a pool. As we share our personal anecdotes, we touch on the impact of AI on our lives, particularly in customer service, and how it might affect our careers as comedians. We share some laughs over dad jokes, showcasing the light-hearted side of our discussions, and I even throw in a few classic one-liners for good measure. Overall, this episode is a blend of humor, nostalgia, and relatable stories about life, nature, and the challenges of adulthood. Join us for a fun and entertaining ride as we explore the ups and downs of our everyday lives! Hey, we had some fun, but gotta run.
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 232 -- Bagels, Bikes, and Bull Sh!t 29.05.2026 1t 5min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a variety of humorous topics, starting with frustration over the high cost and poor quality of bagels in California. One dozen bagels for $29, that just doesn’t compare. We discuss the cultural differences in food, particularly bagels and pizza, and how certain regions have a monopoly on authentic flavors. As we banter back and forth, we touch on the absurdity of gas prices, lamenting the cash-only discounts at gas stations and the tackiness of charging extra for credit card payments. We also reminisce about our childhoods, sharing stories about bicycles, baseball cards, and the nostalgia of simpler times. In a lighter segment, we explore some inappropriate town names, including the infamous Intercourse, Pennsylvania, and the now-renamed Bucking, Austria. We wrap up with a funny anecdote about a World War II soldier's chocolate bar trap that leads to an unexpected friendship, highlighting the absurdity and humor that can arise even in serious situations. Join us for a fun-filled episode where we navigate through food, nostalgia, and the quirks of life, all while keeping the laughs rolling! 
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 231 -- Long Island Comedy Reunion Cruise w/ Tom Drake 22.05.2026 1t 7min

  On this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively discussion filled with humor, health anecdotes, and exciting cruise plans. We kick things off with a light-hearted banter about our personalities, with John embracing his reputation as the "rude one" while Mike plays the nice guy. We express our gratitude to a lineup of celebrity guests who contributed jokes and messages, including Jeff Martling, Lance Burton, and Tommy Chong. The conversation quickly shifts to health topics, with John sharing his unconventional approach to weight loss involving sugar and a desire to get prescribed Ozempic, a medication for diabetes that has weight loss side effects. Mike shares his own experience with blood sugar monitoring and the challenges of navigating the healthcare system. As the episode progresses, we introduce our special guest, Tom Drake, a legendary cruise ship comedian. Tom shares his experiences in the comedy world, including his time working with Jackie Martling and the unique challenges of performing on cruise ships. We discuss an upcoming cruise event featuring a lineup of comedians, including Jackie, as well as fun activities for attendees, such as Q&A sessions and game shows. Throughout the episode, we weave in personal stories, comedic bits, and reflections on our careers in comedy, all while keeping the atmosphere light and entertaining. We invite listeners to join us on the cruise, promising a memorable experience filled with laughter and camaraderie. Tune in for a mix of humor, health insights, and a glimpse into the world of comedy on the high seas! Check out past episodes at ThePodcastplayGround.com/The-Big-Bad-Broadcast
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 230 -- In Your Wildest Dreams / Drive Through Hip Replacement 15.05.2026 1t 4min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, John and Mike dive into the intriguing world of dreams and nightmares. We kick things off with dreams: a recurring dream of searching for a bathroom and a humorous visitation dream involving a late friend. As the episode progresses, we explore the significance of dreams and whether they hold any deeper meanings. We recount a poignant story about a psychic who connected with a deceased friend, adding depth to the discussion of dreams and the afterlife. We also touch on the absurdity of modern-day advertisements, particularly those for weight loss medications like Ozempic and Manjaro, and the societal pressures surrounding body image. In a more personal segment, John shares his recent experience with hip replacement surgery, detailing the surprisingly quick recovery process and the advancements in medical technology. We discuss the challenges of physical therapy and the importance of staying active, all while maintaining our signature comedic tone. Throughout the episode, we maintain our trademark humor, poking fun at ourselves and the absurdities of life, from the quirks of our dreams to the realities of aging and health. Join us for a fun and insightful conversation filled with laughter, personal anecdotes, and a touch of introspection!
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 229 -- Larry Amoros 08.05.2026 1t 6min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively and humorous conversation with our guest, Larry Amoroso, a talented writer and comedian known for his work with Joan Rivers and Barry Manilow. We kick things off with some playful banter about the podcast itself, with John and Mike joking about the absurdity of modern television and the strange phenomenon of Sudden Unexpected Nocturnal Death Syndrome (S.U.N.D.S.) that has been haunting some Southeast Asian men. As we transition into our guest segment, Larry shares his experiences in the comedy world, reminiscing about the vibrant New York comedy scene of the late '80s, where he rubbed shoulders with legends like Jerry Seinfeld, Robin Williams, and George Carlin. He recounts his early days of performing at iconic venues and the hard work it took to make a name for himself in a supportive yet competitive environment. The conversation takes a turn as we discuss the current state of comedy and how social media has changed the landscape for aspiring comedians. Larry reflects on the challenges of developing talent in today's fast-paced world, contrasting it with the nurturing atmosphere of the past. We also touch on the absurdities of politics and media, with Larry sharing his insights on the current political climate and the influence of networks like Fox News. The episode is filled with laughter, sharp observations, and a healthy dose of nostalgia for the golden days of stand-up comedy. Join us for this entertaining and thought-provoking episode as we explore the intersections of comedy, politics, and the art of storytelling with Larry Amoroso! Hey! We had some fun...
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  The Big Bad Broadcast EP 228 -- Patricia Hallahan on “Please Stop” 01.05.2026 1t 3min

  In this episode of the Big Bad Broadcast, we dive into a lively discussion filled with humor and anecdotes about everything from killer bees to the intricacies of filmmaking. I, along with my co-host, John, kick things off with a light-hearted banter about the dangers of killer bees, sharing personal stories and laughs about our experiences with bees and wasps. We then transition to a more serious note as we welcome our special guest, Patricia Hallahan, who is not only a talented writer and director but also my wife. Patricia shares her journey creating her first film, "Please Stop," which explores feminine empowerment and the challenges young women face in society. She discusses the hard work and dedication that went into the film, from writing the script to navigating the complexities of production, all while managing a tight budget and a passionate cast and crew. Throughout the episode, we touch on the importance of storytelling, the challenges of filmmaking, and the significance of supporting one another in creative endeavors. Patricia's insights into the filmmaking process provide a fascinating glimpse behind the scenes, and her passion for the project is palpable. As we wrap up, we reflect on the importance of empathy and understanding in our interactions, both in life and in the stories we tell. This episode blends humor, personal stories, and a celebration of creativity, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the arts or looking for a good laugh. Hey! We had some fun, gotta run. Later, Lisa, scram, Pam. STOP.