What is Collective Healing?
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What is Collective Healing? is a weekly podcast from the Pocket Project exploring how people worldwide are healing individual, inter-generational, and collective trauma. It features personal conversations with practitioners trained under Thomas Hübl and other pioneers of collective healing. The series draws on diverse voices and traditions to make the principles behind collective healing more accessible. It offers a reminder that grief, celebration, and healing are meant to be shared, and that polarization and despair can be transformed.
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The Wholeness Work: A Precise Path to Freedom, with Connirae Andreas 15.09.2026 56minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. How can we turn everyday moments of sadness, disappointment, anger and shame into gateways to awakening? And is there an easy way to dissolve the sense of separation that lies at the root of our suffering? Building on last week's episode, which featured an introductory practice from the Wholeness Work, we're delighted to share this dialogue with Connirae Andreas, who shares the story of how she created this unique healing modality. Matthew and Connirae explore the principles underpinning the Wholeness Work, the relationship between healing and awakening, and her unique approach to integrating individual, ancestral and collective trauma. Connirae explains that the Wholeness Work supports us to access a more fundamental aspect of the structure of our psyche than we might have previously been able to reach. This process can help us transform our relationship with challenging life issues, reset our nervous system, dissolve troubling emotions and establish a greater sense of inner ground. The dialogue covers topics including: How suffering arises from artificial separation in the psyche How a health crisis prompted deeper spiritual search Previous encounter with psychiatrist Dr Milton H. Erickson A months-long experience of deep peace Search for a systematic approach to spiritual awakening Development of the Wholeness Work Finding the "I" inside Moving beyond our "limited self structures" Turning daily challenges into gateways to awakening Building a global network of Wholeness Work practitioners We're excited to be building connectivity between the Pocket Project, whose work is inspired by the collective trauma integration practices of co-founder Thomas Hübl, and other pioneers in the global healing movement such as Connirae. We hope you find the introductory Wholeness Work practice featured on last week's episode a supportive resource. We're excited to share the story of how this work came into being in this latest episode of What Is Collective Healing? Special Gifts: Connirae has kindly offered these gifts to our listeners, both of which can be accessed by registering here: Free Bonus Video Experience the beginning steps of Wholeness Work in a personal 12-minute guided session with Connirae — a gentle introduction you can try right away. 10 Percent Off Live or Online Training Obtain a discount code to Join Connirae in-person in Cologne, Germany from September 18-28, 2026 or live online — starting in November 2026. Further Resources: Additional Guidance to Support the Practice in last week's Bonus Practice Episode AndreasNLP.com TheWholenessWork.org The Wholeness Work Essential Guide. Level 1: Healing and Awakening. Pocket Project Links: Register for the Pocket Project Community Call, Neuroinclusive Approaches: Cultivating Spaces Where We Can All Belong on September 23 Pocket Project Global Social Witnessing Calls Pocket Project About Connirae Andreas: Connirae Andreas, PhD is an internationally known author and personal transformation and healing leader for over four decades. She is best known for her groundbreaking work developing Core Transformation, through which our limitations become the doorway to a felt experience many describe "love", "peace", "presence", or "oneness." Through the steps of the process, this felt experience offers a profound healing, resolving many limiting emotions and behaviors. Her new Wholeness Work begins by offering a precise way to experience "dissolving the ego," a long-time spiritual goal, in a way that releases stress and resolves many life issues. This work utilizes a new mapping of the unconscious, to uncover the "universal structures of the unconscious that hold problems in place" – and offers specific formats to transform each of them. Connirae's work is strongly influenced by her personal experience with the late Dr. Milton H. Erickson. -
Bonus Practice Episode, with Connirae Andreas 08.09.2026 25minNotes by Matthew Green Produced by J'aime Rothbard. Practice created and shared by Connirae Andreas. Used with permission. The team here at What is Collective Healing? has long been intrigued by Connirae Andreas, an author and personal transformation and healing leader who's built a global following for her Wholeness Work. In this two-part series, we're taking a deep dive into the Wholeness Work to explore how Connirae's approach can help integrate individual, ancestral and collective trauma. In today's Bonus Practice Episode, we're offering listeners an opportunity to experience a 24-minute guided Wholeness Work practice led by Connirae. (You can find some additional guidance to support this practice here). In next week's episode, Matthew speaks with Connirae about the remarkable story that led to the Wholeness Work, the relationship between healing and awakening, and her unique approach to integrating individual, ancestral and collective trauma. We're excited to be building connectivity between the Pocket Project, whose work is inspired by the collective trauma integration practices of co-founder Thomas Hübl, and other pioneers in the global healing movement such as Connirae. We hope you find this guided Wholeness Work practice a supportive resource and look forward to sharing Matthew's dialogue with Connirae in the next episode of What Is Collective Healing? Special Gifts: Connirae has kindly offered these gifts to our listeners, both of which can be accessed by registering here: Free Bonus Video Experience the beginning steps of Wholeness Work in a personal 12-minute guided session with Connirae — a gentle introduction you can try right away. 10 Percent Off Live or Online Training Obtain a discount code to Join Connirae in-person in Cologne, Germany from September 18-28, 2026 or live online — starting in November 2026. Further Resources: Additional Guidance to Support the Practice in this Episode AndreasNLP.com TheWholenessWork.org The Wholeness Work Essential Guide. Level 1: Healing and Awakening. Pocket Project Links: Register for the Pocket Project Community Call, Neuroinclusive Approaches: Cultivating Spaces Where We Can All Belong on September 23 Pocket Project Global Social Witnessing Calls Pocket Project About Connirae Andreas: Connirae Andreas, PhD is an internationally known author and personal transformation and healing leader for over four decades. She is best known for her groundbreaking work developing Core Transformation, through which our limitations become the doorway to a felt experience many describe "love", "peace", "presence", or "oneness." Through the steps of the process, this felt experience offers a profound healing, resolving many limiting emotions and behaviors. Her new Wholeness Work begins by offering a precise way to experience "dissolving the ego," a long-time spiritual goal, in a way that releases stress and resolves many life issues. This work utilizes a new mapping of the unconscious, to uncover the "universal structures of the unconscious that hold problems in place" – and offers specific formats to transform each of them. Connirae's work is strongly influenced by her personal experience with the late Dr. Milton H. Erickson. -
The Gender Wound: Beyond Victim, Perpetrator, and Savior with Pamela von Sabljar and Sean Talbeaux 01.09.2026 52minHosted by Matthew Green Produced by J'aime Rothbard. What happens when men, women and people of other genders come together to acknowledge the previously unspoken distrust that exists between them? And how can we move beyond victim narratives to ask what lessons perpetrators may have to teach? On July 1, the Pocket Project held From the Epstein Files to Inside the Manosphere – Tending to Fractured Gender Relations, an online Global Social Witnessing Call attended by more than 150 participants. Pamela von Sabljar, Sean Talbeaux, and Matthew Green spoke during the call about their responses to abuses by powerful men revealed in the Epstein Files and the activities of misogynistic social media influencers. In this episode, Matthew invited Pamela and Sean to return to the Pocket Project to extend the reflection they began during that powerful Global Social Witnessing call. Themes they address include: Relationship between safety, dominance, privilege Male muteness and shame The power of being witnessed in our perpetration Are we telling ourselves we're more fragile than we are? Working through reactivity with the Drama Triangle Challenges men face in showing vulnerability relative to women Societal dangers of casting all men as pathological Finding new ways to channel primordial masculine energy Healthy competition vs shadow competition What happens when men and women acknowledge mutual distrust? This episode offers a rich and nuanced dialogue speaking to some of the key questions in collective healing work oriented towards bridging divides between men and women. For more on this theme, please see these previous episodes: Opening the Heart of Humanity by Healing the Gender Wound, with Cynthia Brix and Will Keepin Calling Men Into Presence: Masculinity Beyond Separation and Struggle, with Kevin Young Further Resources: Pamela von Sabljar (Website) Sean Talbeaux (Website) What Doesn't Change (Sean Talbeaux's newsletter) Resonant World (Matthew Green's newsletter) Resonant Man Pocket Project Links: Register for the Pocket Project Community Call, Neuroinclusive Approaches: Cultivating Spaces Where We Can All Belong on September 23 Pocket Project Pocket Project Global Social Witnessing Calls About Pamela von Sabljar: Pamela serves as a catalyst for leaders and organizations to create deeper human connection and supports them to foster the conditions for emergence. In addition to co-hosting the largest global Emergent Dialogue training in the world, she leads the Facilitating the Shift Masterclasses, hosts training on cutting edge sensemaking platforms like Rebel Wisdom, Emerge Network, Foundation of Ekskäret. She is also a mentor for new paradigm leaders, Co-Initiator of the Nordic Women's gathering, and a sacred Spanda Tantrika. Pamela has 25 years experience in leadership, personal development, and behavioral science. She has worked with businesses, public sectors, and private individuals specializing in personal, group, and organizational development. In addition, she has founded several systemic change projects and leadership programs in advanced self-awareness and self-leadership. She is the author of books on self-development and gender equality pedagogy, also writing several children's books. Pamela is operating in the borderland between science and spirituality; she invites people to go beyond what separates us to meet the most pressing need on the planet: to nurture a more conscious humanity and a more regenerative world. About Sean Talbeaux: Sean is certified in psilocybin facilitation, trained in trauma-attuned touch, somatic therapies, and group process work. His work is influenced by training in Hakomi, the Neuro-Affective Relational Model (NARM), and the philosophy of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Sean has guided over 100 men through transformative, immersive experiences, both in 1:1 and group retreat containers. But Sean believes the credential that matters most is this: He knows what it's like to be maxed out and still need to show up. To feel his nervous system hijacked by reactivity and have to find his way back to steady ground. To lead when you don't feel like a leader. The men Sean works with aren't broken. They're capable, committed, and navigating complexity that would flatten most people. They're just tired of being jerked around by their own nervous systems. Sean helps them access the part within themselves that doesn't change — the steady center that remains present regardless of external circumstances. Not through concepts or strategies, but through embodied practice and relational work. The men Sean works with say this work feels like something between coaching and therapy, between guidance and mentorship. There's nothing off-limits, nothing to fix, and no part of you that's unwelcome. -
Transmuting the Legacy of Europe's Witch Trials in our Bodies, Lineages and Culture, with Andrea Livingston and Lysan Boshuyzen 25.08.2026 1t 3minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. During a 300-year period starting in the mid-fifteenth century, an estimated 40,000-60,000 people were executed in Europe after being found guilty of practising witchcraft. Taking into account the toll of lynchings, deaths from torture, prison deaths and suicides in detention, some estimates put the overall death toll from the witch trials as high as 100,000. Recorded in judicial proceedings, woodcut engravings and contemporary manuscripts, the ordeals endured by the accused bear testament to a dark chapter in early modern history that might seem to belong squarely in the continent's past. But how might the traumatic legacy of the false testimony, terror, torture, and shattered kinship ties associated with the trials — where 80 percent of the condemned were women — live on in our ancestry, bodies and cultures? And how might people today transmute the reverberations of this painful inheritance and loosen deeply ingrained patterns of fear, suppression, and self-censorship? What does it take to step out of the legacy of the witch hunts and reclaim the freedom to shape our lives through authentic voice, creative expression, and embodied autonomy? In February, Andrea Livingston and Lysan Boshuyzen launched one of the more than 40 Pocket Project Integration Labs running over the course of this year to explore these questions and more. Witch Hunts: Echoes of Europe's Witch Trials in our Bodies, Lineages and Culture is providing a space for participants to address the interplay of religion, colonialism, hysteria, capitalism, misogyny, and the erasure of Indigenous European spiritual and earth-based practices during the witch hunt era. In this episode, Andrea and Lysan speak about the personal journeys that prompted them to address this topic and the many nuanced and complex layers of individual, collective and ancestral trauma the Lab is helping participants to unearth and integrate. Themes they discuss include: Unexpectedly meeting witch trials during ancestral work Societal impact of technological innovation: The printing press and AI Use of "witch" as a derogatory term in contemporary politics Andrea's ancestral call to Scotland Liberating ancestral terror at the Orkney Witchcraft Trials Memorial Lysan's exploration of how the legacy of the witch hunts shaped inter-generational attitudes towards women and women's fears of sharing their authentic voice Intimacy of the trauma of witchcraft accusations within communities Impact of witch trials on relationships and trust between women and within families Societal upheaval and the formation of the early modern state Enduring impact of the 1486 Malleus Maleficarum, better known as the The Hammer of Witches, that went "viral" in the 16th century How exploring historical material impacted Lab participants Qualities needed to engage with collective trauma fields How some participants are feeling a renewed inner anchor and connection to the land Impact of the witch trials on men Pat McCabe's work on the archetypal "wounding of the human lineage" Exploring how witch trials shaped our modern world Global significance and future of collective healing work This episode is a must-listen for anybody who wishes to understand more about how this grim aspect of early modernity may be continuing to shape contemporary experience. It's also an opportunity to hear from two leading-edge practitioners how collective healing works in practice. To register your interest in future offerings related to the witch hunts by Andrea and Lysan, please click here. The Pocket Project will be accepting applications for the next cycle of Integration Labs in January, 2027. Andrea Livingston's Website, Instagram, Facebook, and Linkedin Lysan Boshuyzen's Website, LinkedIn Further Resources: Timeline, interactive map, resources, and image gallery The Memorial Project Commemorating the Victims of the Orkney Witchcraft Trials Pat McCabe speaking on her experience with the witch trials Book: Witches, Witch-Hunting and Women, by Silvia Federici (2018); Witchcraze: A New History of the European Witch Hunts, by Anne Barstow (1994) Podcast: BBC Witch Documentary by ARTE: Witches, Chronicle of a Massacre Historical Texts: Daemonologie by James VI and I ( James Charles Stuart) (1597) Malleus Maleficarum, better known as the Hammer of the Witches (1486) Pocket Project Links: Pocket Project Pocket Project Integration Labs 2026 Upcoming Global Social Witnessing Calls: The Earthquake in Colombia: Opening our Solidarity & Care (August 26, 2026) About Andrea Livingston: Andrea Livingston has been a dedicated student and practitioner of individual, ancestral, and collective healing for over a decade. She holds an MA in Consciousness and Transformative Studies and a Graduate Certificate in Ecotherapy from JFK University and is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner. She has been studying with Thomas Hübl since 2014 and now serves as an assistant in the Timeless Wisdom Training. She is currently the Associate Director of Engagement at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) where she produces events that bring together the wisdom of both science and spirituality. About Lysan Boshuyzen: Lysan Boshuyzen is a facilitator, coach, and advisor of mental health and psychosocial support (MHPSS) in humanitarian and post-conflict contexts, with a special focus on collective and generational dimensions of trauma. Over the last decade, she worked at the Dutch MFA, ARQ National Psychotrauma Centre and with peacebuilders and changemakers worldwide, combining in-depth knowledge of trauma fields with political and practical experience. She also co-founded a foundation supporting resilience and mental health worldwide. As a certified Collective Trauma Facilitator, she integrates 15 years of bodywork and meditation practice into her approach. -
Self-Regulation is the Key: Hard-won Wisdom from a Pioneer of Collective Trauma Integration, with Markus Hirzig 18.08.2026 1tHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. Therapist and teacher Markus Hirzig has pursued a central question throughout his decades-long career: Why, despite our enormous human potential, do we so often get caught in patterns that limit us and drain our energy — and how can we break these cycles? Having started out as a physiotherapist and osteopath, Markus began looking for answers in the body by deeply exploring patterns of movement and tension. Then, after meeting Thomas Hübl, co-founder of the Pocket Project, more than 20 years ago, Markus went on to play a pivotal role in helping to pioneer collective trauma integration practices in Germany. Markus has since worked to bring principles of collective healing to a global audience via his own in-person and online training and by co-leading a team of assistants supporting Thomas' two-year Timeless Wisdom Training and other offerings. In this episode, Markus reflects on the journey since his early days of working with groups in Germany with Thomas, when collective energies linked to the Second World War, the Holocaust and the East-West divide began to surface in striking ways. Markus explains how he learned the crucial importance of supporting participants in collective healing processes to gradually learn to regulate their nervous systems — a practice he also shares in his free Open Trainings. Markus sees this self-regulation capacity as essential to creating the kind of stable ground from which deeper exploration, integration and change become possible. Themes Markus and Matthew explore include: Early days of learning to work with collective trauma Collective trauma patterns as "bubbles" in the wider field Role of self-regulation in collective healing work Origins of collaboration with Thomas Hübl Working with Germany's undigested past Surfacing ancestral war-time memories Germany's reckoning with the Second World War and the Holocaust Creating spaces to host the emergence of new possibilities Using intention to address specific fields of collective trauma Building collective healing architecture on a global scale Role of outside perspectives in national collective trauma work This powerful episode offers a chance to hear directly from one of the luminaries in this field about how collective trauma integration work has evolved over the years, the wisdom accrued along the way — and where the global healing movement might go next. Further Resources: Markus Hirzig's Open Trainings Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training). Pocket Project About Markus Hirzig: Markus began his journey into healing in the 1970s and 80s, becoming a physiotherapist and later an osteopath. For decades, he worked in private practice while also teaching classes. Starting from a deeply body-oriented perspective, Maruks trained his perception of movement and patterns within the physical body. Along the way, he also discovered a connection to what we might call "subtle energetic perception" — or a deeper field of information behind the physical. This opened up questions that have shaped Markus' work ever since: Why do we have so much potential, and yet so often find ourselves caught in patterns that limit us and drain our energy? How can we break these cycles? And how much of what we experience as individuals is connected to our families, our ancestry and the collective? These questions led Markus into decades of exploring individual, family, ancestral and collective patterns and trauma. Over time, Markus came to understand self-regulation as an essential foundation for this work: the capacity to recognise when we are triggered, stay present with what arises, and distinguish between our own experience and what may be connected to larger family, systemic or collective fields. Again and again, returning to regulation creates the ground from which deeper exploration, integration and change become possible. Today, Markus works as a therapist and teacher, both in person and online. Markus regularly offers free online Open Trainings where people can experience this work firsthand. -
Meeting the "Shadow Trauma" of Transgression: The Healthy Way to Approach Your Past, with Thomas Hübl 11.08.2026 47minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. When we embark on a healing path, there will inevitably come a point when we meet parts of ourselves that we'd previously managed to deny or avoid. At the personal level, this can look like reflecting on things we said or did in the past that we now regret, or gaining a new perspective on habitual patterns of relating that we've started to outgrow. As we widen the scope of our integration work, we may meet transgressions committed by our ancestors, or discover how legacies of perpetration carried out at the collective level — from war crimes and genocide to racial oppression and gender-based violence — live on in our own system, shaping our perceptions of ourselves and each other in limiting ways. In this episode, Thomas Hübl shares core mystical principles for working with the "shadow trauma" of perpetration at the individual, inter-generational and collective scales, and why he sees this work as so essential at this time. A key dimension of his approach relates to the spiritual principle of grace. When people suffer trauma as a result of experiencing transgressions committed by others, the flow of grace is much more readily available to support the healing process, Thomas says. But when we commit acts of perpetration — whether as individuals or collectives —then access to grace can be drastically curtailed. The parts of our nervous system that might allow us to feel what we have done to the other are shut down. It thus takes a special effort on behalf of the perpetrator to overcome the unconscious impulse to turn away from past transgressions committed and instead look clearly at what happened. That act of turning-towards the ethical violations can allow grace once again to flow. "On the transgressor side, we have to be awake enough to say, 'I want to look at this,'" Thomas says. "And that motivation comes out of a growing sense of love and compassion and responsibility that wants to restore the ethical confusion. Then it reactivates grace, and then support comes." Other key takeaways from this episode include: Thomas' concept of 'Divine Law' and its relationship to internal alignment and right action How the healing process might bring us into contact with pain we had previously numbed and why that's a sign of progress The importance of healing communities in meeting transgression Finding a healthy relationship to our ancestral lineage The connection between our integrated trauma and global events How healing perpetration trauma restores Divine Law and opens up new pathways for ethical action Why peace is not the absence of conflict — but arises from cultivating our capacity to stay in relation when we disagree This lively and accessible dialogue offers core insights into some of the most challenging aspects of individual and collective healing work and the mystical principles that can orient us even in the face of life's darkest shadows. This conversation was first published on Thomas' Point of Relation podcast. For an introductory dialogue between Thomas and Matthew on healing and awakening, please click here to access last week's episode of What Is Collective Healing? Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training). Further Resources: Point of Relation podcast (with Thomas Hübl) Thomas Hübl Thomas Hübl on Instagram Pocket Project About Thomas Hübl: Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. His new book, co-authored with Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is called Releasing Our Burdens: A Guide to Healing Individual, Ancestral and Collective Trauma. Thomas is also the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. -
The Path Is Created as We Walk: How to Let Yourself Be Authored by Life, with Thomas Hübl 04.08.2026 59minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. Healing from trauma — whether inflicted in our lifetime, passed down by our ancestors, or present in the collective — is an inevitably uncomfortable, messy and ambiguous process, which may never feel entirely resolved or complete. Many contemplative practices, by contrast, hold out the promise of a sudden awakening experience that reveal our sense of a separate self to be an illusion, and thus cut through our mind-created suffering like a sword. In this episode, teacher and facilitator Thomas Hübl, a co-founder of the Pocket Project, explores this apparent contradiction by demonstrating how the paths of healing and awakening are properly seen as aspects of the same revelatory process. "This is one mountain," Thomas says. "Deep spiritual traditions usually have different practice areas, 'departments' if you will. But they are all working together as one consciousness stream." Thomas goes on to develop an integrated vision of how trauma healing, spiritual awakening, ethical conduct, and participation in supportive communities form four mutually reinforcing pillars to support us to embody more "light" and share our gifts more fully. As we practice this approach, we realise that we are not following some preformed trail that's waiting there for us to find it — but that our path is being created as we walk. "What does it mean to be authored by life — not by the horizontal expectations of other people — but by the real stream of life?," Thomas asks. "What's really coming out of me that's unique in my expression, and how can we support that?" Thomas emphasises that this commitment to self-realisation is an essential contribution to growing our collective capacity to tap into the inspiration and innovation we need to tackle today's interlocking crises. "I believe we are living in a time of collective awakening — this is the moment. So [we] need more embodied light so that we can really ground a new state of consciousness as humanity. And that is also going to be the answer to some of the pressing issues that we see in the world." As Thomas acknowledges, in darker phases of life, we can sometimes feel cut off from the light – but we can still sense the echo of something higher. "Even if it's an echo, we feel that there is something bigger than our suffering. It's very important not to forget that even if it feels stuck or hard or challenging right now, there's something deeper also that is always — even if it's in the background — present." This visionary dialogue penetrates to the heart of some of the most profound and mysterious concepts at the heart of collective healing practices in an exceptionally lively and accessible way. This warm-hearted conversation will also nourish anyone who feels ready to let go of struggle, embody more of their essence, and let life's infinite intelligence be your guide. This conversation was first published on Thomas' Point of Relation podcast. Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training). Further Resources: Point of Relation podcast (with Thomas Hübl) Thomas Hübl Thomas Hübl on Instagram Pocket Project About Thomas Hübl: Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. His new book, co-authored with Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is called Releasing Our Burdens: A Guide to Healing Individual, Ancestral and Collective Trauma. Thomas is also the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. -
Two States, One Homeland: Keeping the Flame of Political Imagination Alive in Israel-Palestine, with May Pundak 28.07.2026 57minMay Pundak is the Israeli co-executive director of A Land for All, a joint Palestinian-Israeli movement working towards a political framework in which two democratic, sovereign states exist within a shared homeland, rooted in equality, freedom, and dignity. In a dialogue first broadcast as part of the Pocket Project's World Women Summit: Women Rising for Peace in March, May speaks about her commitment to keeping "that spark of constructive, practical hope" alive despite the devastating escalation in violence since the October 7, 2023 attacks on Israel. In September last year, a U.N. commission of inquiry concluded that the Israeli state had committed genocide in Gaza in response. Israel's government rejected the findings. "We have to keep that flame of political imagination of an alternative so that people, when they are confronted by this conflict, their immediate response won't be, 'oh, it's impossible', but rather 'you know what? I've actually heard of a really interesting new idea,'" May tells host Kosha Joubert. By envisioning a form of confederation, with gradual steps towards freedom of movement and residence for all Israelis and Palestinians, A Land for All's 'two states, one homeland' model aims to offer national self-determination without domination, shared governance without erasing identity, and security without subjugation. "Maybe the most hopeful thing that I can share is that we're a movement that is growing, that is since October 7th, we've been growing," May says. This moving dialogue shows how Israelis and Palestinians are coming together in the most challenging of circumstances to build a shared vision for peace, and powerfully articulates the importance of love and belonging as the foundations for all peace-building work. Further Resources: A Land for All Support the Pocket Project's Work in the Middle East: Jewish Trauma Relief Project Spaces of Belonging: Resilience and Community for Palestinians (Fundraiser) Palestine Trauma Relief Project Catch Up on the Podcast Episodes Mentioned: Bonus Poem Episode, with Carolina Herbert Building Circles of Resilience in Ukraine, with Daria Yemets About May Pundak: May Pundak is a mother, daughter and granddaughter, a partner, feminist lawyer and activist and co-director of A Land for All. In her previous role, she worked at the New Israel Fund in the United States. May assisted in establishing a legal team to support political struggles in East Jerusalem and co-founded an educational dialogue group program. May is a graduate of the Mandel School of Educational Leadership and a graduate of Harvard University's Leadership, Community Organizing and Activism course. She holds a teaching certificate in civics and a bachelor's and master's degree in law in the field of public and international law, with an emphasis on human rights, including Transitional Justice studies, from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. A Land for All is a joint Israeli-Palestinian political initiative rooted in the lived reality of this land. It was founded by people who know the conflict not from headlines but from daily life. Together, we have dared to imagine a different future and have crafted a shared political vision grounded in dignity, equality, and belonging for both peoples. We are a generative source of ideas and expertise for policymakers and peacebuilders seeking to advance a two-state solution that is not only equitable in theory but workable in practice - for both peoples. Our model rejects zero-sum thinking on complex issues like Jerusalem, settlements, and refugees, and instead promotes creative and fair solutions. Since 2012, we have brought together activists, academics, diplomats, and thought leaders around a simple and powerful truth: this land is home to two peoples. Any lasting resolution must affirm the equal right of both nations to self-determination - while honoring their unique identities, histories, and needs. Our lives are already inextricably intertwined, not only emotionally and historically, but in the most basic, everyday ways: through shared aquifers, electricity grids, labor markets, and security realities. A shared peaceful future requires a political framework that reflects our interdependence, alongside our separate needs. Without it, we remain trapped in the cycles of fear, violence, and loss. The brutal attack on Israel on October 7th and the unprecedented and unrelenting violence that has followed in the Gaza Strip and West Bank have laid bare the urgent need for a just and lasting resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Decades of occupation, escalating violence, and the erosion of democratic space have brought us to a critical turning point, revealing the patent failure of efforts to "manage" the conflict. In response, the international community has renewed its support for the two-state solution. Yet the assumptions underpinning the Oslo Accords - rigid geographical separation and indifference towards deeply held historical and identity ties - have proven unworkable. The time has come for a two-state solution that can actually work--one that guarantees self-determination for both peoples while embracing our interdependence and common attachment to the land. A Land for All: Two States, One Homeland - was founded by Israelis and Palestinians as a joint movement with a vision both simple and transformative. We envision two democratic, sovereign states - Israel and Palestine - linked together in a confederation with gradual steps toward freedom of movement and residence for all Israelis and Palestinians across our shared homeland. Our model offers national self-determination without domination, shared governance without erasing identity, and security without subjugation. -
Bonus Poetry Episode, with Carolina Herbert 21.07.2026 8minPoem written and performed by Carolina Herbert. Used with her permission. Introduced by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. In this special episode, we bring you a poem by Carolina Herbert, a PhD Arts Psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, and expressive arts practitioner. Entitled 'Between Inheritance and Hiraeth,' the work explores ancestral work, collective memory and forgiveness. The poem grew out of Carolina's experience in Being White British: Colonised and Colonisers, one of more than 40 Integration Labs the Pocket Project is hosting this year to address different aspects of collective and intergenerational trauma around the world. Carolina writes: "What the Lab created was a quality of collective presence and witnessing that I have rarely encountered, and it became the conditions in which something that had been forming for a long time could finally find its shape. "The deeper roots of the poem go back several years. I have been on a long exploration of ancestral work, collective memory and forgiveness, asking what it means to truly reckon with what we have inherited, both the wounding and the wisdom, and what responsibility we carry to those who came before and those who will come after. "This inquiry took a very specific form through Sori, a travelling podcast I created exploring apology and forgiveness in communities and cultures around the world through creative arts, therapy, music and songwriting. We have recorded 14 episodes across several countries, holding conversations about what forgiveness means across different cultural and ancestral traditions. "When I returned to the UK after twenty years of living and working in Cambodia, I found it deeply confronting, the sense of collective sleeping around the level of harm that colonisation has caused and continues to cause around the world. Coming home, in that sense, was not a homecoming but an awakening to something I had perhaps been circling for years without being able to name it so directly. The Lab has helped me begin to focus and explore my own deeper response to this, to find a form for what I was carrying, and for that I am profoundly grateful. "The Lab gave me the opportunity to consolidate and channel all of this into this poem. I arrived with all that accumulated inquiry sitting in me somewhere, and the quality of witnessing in the group gave it permission to emerge in this form." We hope this episode will mark the first in a series featuring creative work emerging from the Pocket Project Integration Labs. We welcome any Lab participant who would like to submit poems or other forms of creative expression for consideration to contact Matthew here. Further Resources: Carolina Herbert Blue Pearl Institute Carolina on LinkedIn Carolina on Facebook Carolina on Instagram Pocket Project Integration Labs 2026 Contact Matthew About Carolina Herbert: Dr Carolina Herbert is a PhD Arts Psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, educator, consultant, celebrant and expressive arts practitioner with over 25 years of international experience in trauma-informed practice, humanitarian mental health and psychosocial support, and leadership development. Her work has taken her across South East Asia, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Latin America and Central Asia, accompanying individuals, communities and organisations through some of the most demanding circumstances human beings face. At the heart of her practice is a deep trust in the creative and imaginal capacities that human beings carry, the capacity to make meaning from suffering, to find form for what has no words, and to discover in the arts a pathway back to what matters most. This trust has shaped everything: her clinical work, her training programmes, her organisational consultancy, her songwriting and her writing. She is the founder of Blue Pearl Institute for Expressive Arts: Therapy and Leadership, based in Gower, Wales, the UK's first nature-inspired expressive arts therapy and leadership institute, and a member of the International Network of Expressive Arts Institutes. Blue Pearl delivers practitioner training, accredited CPD and nature-based wellbeing programmes across Wales, Cambodia and online, with an international faculty of teachers. Carolina is also a Global Social Witnessing facilitator and the founder of the Sori Project, an inquiry into apology, forgiveness and collective repair across cultures. Her poem on ancestry arises from this territory: an invitation to attend to what we carry across generations, and to ask what it means to respond. She is based on the shores of Gower, Wales. -
Rebirthing the Wise Warrior: Burnout as a Portal to Collective Liberation, with Dr Rola Hallam 14.07.2026 56minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. How can the apparently catastrophic collapse of the person we thought we were clear the path for who we are meant to become? What might change when we dwell less on what we're doing to serve others, and focus more on the quality of consciousness from which our action arises? Dr Rola Hallam is an award-winning humanitarian recognised for her extraordinary role in building hospitals and bringing medical aid to Syria during a decade of mass killings of civilians unleashed by the country's now-toppled dictatorship. In this episode, Dr Rola speaks about the transformation she experienced after trauma and exhaustion she accumulated via her humanitarian work led to a 'dark night of the soul' that radically changed her understanding of herself and her service in the world. "I was desperately trying to pull us forward and into a better future because the present seemed so unbearable. And I think that crash that I had was really this almighty sort of cataclysmic rupture that in some ways forced me to sit in the cracks," Dr Rola says. "The pain, the grief, the rage, the powerlessness — everything that I had suppressed in all those years, I had to feel them, I had to learn to be with them, I had to integrate them and transmute them so that I could also reconnect to more of that unconditional love, more to joy, more to beauty, more to my right responsibility." Called to the role of doctor from childhood, Dr Rola also felt a strong sense of warriorship from a young age — a combination of archetypal energies that would propel her later relief work in her Syrian homeland, where women and children bore the brunt of the former regime's atrocities. Dr Rola's burnout experience helped her to unravel how some of her own early traumas had shaped her path as a "wounded healer". But it also reflected her experience as a "wounded visionary" — struggling with the pain of the mismatch between the world she could imagine and present reality. With the support of her Sufi practice, various trauma modalities, and psychedelic-assisted therapies, Dr Rola began to harvest the gold hidden in her dark night experience and now offers programmes to support people to build resilience and navigate the collapse-rebirth cycle. These include her new nine-month journey called Wise Warriors. "I would say that is the home of this transformation from clever to wise so that we can all become this healing impulse, this healing presence…for collective liberation, for collective awakening," Dr Rola says. This dialogue provides a vivid illustration of the power of grace to transform our most vulnerable moments into portals for growth and awakening. It also reminds us of our innate capacity to tap into a living stream of inspiration to meet personal and global challenges. "It's so easy to look at the scale of everything and feel too small and too insignificant," Dr Rola says. "But I hope that if nothing else, our conversation today is a reminder of not just our responsibility, but of the agency, of the potency in each one of us to really be a positive contribution. And that is all that is asked of us." Further Resources: Dr Rola Hallam (website) Wise Warriors The Resilient Leadership Workshop Saving Syria's Children (BBC Documentary) Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training starting in July). About Rola Hallam: Dr Rola Hallam is an award-winning Syrian-British doctor, humanitarian, trauma-informed coach, speaker and spiritual teacher whose work sits at the meeting place of healing, leadership and sacred service. As founder of CanDo, Rola helped build seven hospitals in Syria and supported care for more than four million people in conflict-affected communities. She has witnessed the devastating impact of war, burnout, moral injury and trauma, not only in the world's hardest places, but also in the bodies and hearts of those who serve. Honoured as the first Syrian TED Fellow, Rola has spoken on global stages alongside presidents, celebrities, grassroots activists and changemakers. Her talks have been viewed more than 11 million times, inspiring people around the world to reimagine what healing, leadership and social change can look like. After her own experience of burnout and PTSD, Rola's work evolved beyond emergency medicine and humanitarian action into a deeper exploration of nervous system repair, embodied resilience and spiritual transformation. Today, she guides sensitive leaders, healers, frontline workers and changemakers to move from survival, self-abandonment and depletion into wholeness, truth and sacred responsibility. Her approach brings together Western medicine, trauma healing, somatic work, Sufi wisdom, embodied resilience and expanded states of consciousness. At the heart of her work is a simple but radical invitation: that our presence is medicine, and that when we heal what lives within us, our service becomes less about sacrifice and more about devotion, aliveness and right relationship with the world. -
Leading in Chaos: Transforming our Lives Into 'Instruments of Repair', with Amy Elizabeth Fox 07.07.2026 47minHosted by Kosha Joubert. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. How can we meet this time of polarisation, breakdown and chaos by turning our lives into 'instruments of repair'? How can we undertake the work of healing and reconciliation needed to restore relations between genders? Amy Elizabeth Fox is the co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm, and longtime collaborator with the Pocket Project and its co-founder Thomas Hübl. In this episode, Amy and Kosha build on insights from Leading in Chaos, Amy's new book co-authored with Nicholas Janni, to explore how to develop the inner ground that supports us to align with a sense of larger unfolding in this era of fluidity and change. "We know that the operating system we've relied on in a command-and-control predictable world will not be sufficient to grapple with these times of uncertainty and churn," Amy says. "So we're going to have to build inside organizations what I've been calling nests, which are small groups, and the purpose of these nests is not functional or technical: It is just emotional support and care." As leaders increasingly recognise the need to embrace more feminine principles to support their staff and navigate growing complexity, Amy provides a compellingly clear vision of how we can each integrate both our trauma healing work and a sense of devotion to something greater than ourselves to reveal the unique contribution that is ours to make. "I think there's a natural impulse of the heart at this time to be of service and to be part of the reparative web, that is arising naturally in this time of great violence and cruelty and degradation of life in many ways," Amy says. "So the inner work is in part attuning to and defining and engaging with what your contribution is meant to be." In the light of last week's Pocket Project Global Social Witnessing Call "From the Epstein Files to Inside the Manosphere: Tending to Fractured Gender Relations," Kosha and Amy also dive deeply into the question of how men, women and people of all genders can undertake the work of reconciliation and repair. Amy emphasises both the importance of women continuing to support one another in healing from trauma and for men to come together to undertake the process of "unnumbing" from patriarchal conditioning. These complementary processes can, Amy says, form "the precursor for real co-creation and reinvention of how we relate to each other." Infused with Amy's gift for illuminating core principles of healing and awakening with clarity, beauty and precision, this episode will nourish anyone seeking to lead with an open heart in this time of great peril and promise. Further Resources: Leading in Chaos: A Clarion Call to a New Future From Two Pioneers in Leadership Development and Transformational Change (Book) Leading in Chaos (a series of seven online sessions with Amy Elizabeth Fox and Nicholas Janni, running from September to December 2026). Mobius Executive Leadership Amy Elizabeth Fox (website) Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training starting in July). About Amy Elizabeth Fox: Since 2005 Amy Elizabeth Fox has served as one of the founders and Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm. For the last twenty years she has served as a leadership and culture change advisor to eminent professional services firms and Fortune 500 companies and facilitated immersive executive development programs for senior leaders. In 2026 she co-authored a book with Nicholas Janni entitled Leading in Chaos to help executives navigate the unique challenges of leading through increased complexity and adaptive demand. Mobius offers top team intervention, business mediation, executive coaching and personal mastery programs all aimed at unlocking potential and building deeper trust, intimacy and connection within a company's top tier. Mobius also sponsors a professional development arm for maturing transformational practitioners called the Next Practice Institute and has an e-learning arm entitled Mobius Touch. Since 2013 Mobius has had the privilege of partnering with the premier leadership advisory firm, Egon Zehnder, together offering sessions for leaders from around the world. Amy serves as the lead faculty for the quarterly Discovery program offered jointly to N-1 leaders. Further she has guided programs for long standing clients in tandem to overseeing the evolution and expansion of Mobius. Amy is considered an expert in healing individual, family and collective trauma and has been a pioneer in introducing trauma-informed development and psycho-spiritual principles into leadership programs. In addition to her work with Mobius, Amy is a senior student of mystical teacher Thomas Hübl, serving as part of his online faculty team and as lead faculty for his two-year Timeless Wisdom Training. Together Amy and Thomas are guiding a first of its kind year-long certification in Trauma Informed Consulting and Coaching. Before starting Mobius Amy worked as a trainer for Vantage Partners, as a senior executive in Wellspace, and as the Director of Public Affairs for the Cathedral of St John the Divine where she supported Paul Gorman, Carl Sagan and Vice President Gore in a decade long effort to engage the American faith communities in responding to climate change and environmental degradation. Amy has a Masters in Counseling from Lesley College and a BA in Psychology from Wesleyan University. -
A Global Social Witnessing Invitation: From the Epstein Files to Inside the Manosphere – Tending to Fractured Gender Relations 30.06.2026 32minRegister for the July 1 Global Social Witnessing Event Hosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. We are living in a time when a new upsurge in systemic oppression, silencing and violence toward the feminine has become impossible to ignore. The Epstein Files, the activities of misogynistic influencers featured in the 'Inside the Manosphere' documentary, and a CNN investigation into the 'Motherless' online platform where men shared pornographic videos of their sedated partners and wives, have opened new windows into the extent and depth of gender-based perpetration, complicity and wounding alive in today's world. A lack of justice and accountability have compounded the harms. In this episode, co-host Matthew Green joins J'aime Rothbard, the producer of What is Collective Healing? to discuss the upcoming Pocket Project Global Social Witnessing call on July 1 at 8:00 PM Central Europe time (7:00 PM UK, 2:00 PM Eastern) dedicated to creating a space to digest the revelations in the Epstein Files and related material. J'aime and Matthew discuss how Global Social Witnessing serves as a participatory, embodied practice that can start to build the kind of ground that could ultimately support restoration and repair. In that sense, the free call on July 1 is an opportunity to participate directly in collective healing and experience what becomes possible when we tend to our collective wounds in community. Further Resources: Register for the Global Social Witnessing call: From the Epstein Files to Inside the Manosphere – Tending to Fractured Gender Relations More on Global Social Witnessing in Episodes One (Manda Johnson) and Episode Fourteen (Bayo Akomolafe) Calling Men Into Presence: Masculinity Beyond Separation and Struggle, with Kevin Young Opening the Heart of Humanity by Healing the Gender Wound, with Cynthia Brix and Will Keepin Kosha Joubert on Global Social Witnessing as a Portal to Collective Healing The Resonant Man About Matthew Green Matthew Green is a journalist and facilitator working to show how an understanding of collective trauma can help solve the climate crisis. As global investigations editor at the non-profit DeSmog, he leads coverage of the global climate crisis, energy politics and global struggles for environmental justice. He is a co-host of the What Is Collective Healing? Podcast at the Pocket Project and co-founder of the Resonant Man international men's initiative. -
Relational Resourcing Before Repair: The Missing Foundation of Systems Change, with John Kania 23.06.2026 40minHosted by Kosha Joubert. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. John Kania joins Kosha Joubert to explore the evolving relationship between systems change and collective healing. Drawing on decades of experience in social innovation and collective impact, John reflects on how his work has shifted from focusing primarily on structures, institutions, and collaboration to recognizing the profound role that trauma, resilience, and healing play in shaping the systems we live within. Over the last 30 years, John has been a practitioner, researcher, writer, teacher, and speaker on how organizations and people can achieve change together. John is currently the Executive Director of the Collective Change Lab, a nonprofit catalyst and thought leader placing healing at the heart of social and environmental systems change. In February 2024, John published a ground-breaking article with Katherine Milligan and Laura Calderon de La Barca called Healing Systems which explored how recognising trauma in ourselves, other people, and the systems around us can open up new pathways to solving social problems. The article has been downloaded more than 80,000 times showing the huge amount of interest there is in how collective healing can unlock systems change – which is also the central question we're exploring at the Pocket Project. Laura Calderon de La Barca studied intensely with Thomas Hubl over several years and was an early guest on this podcast. Kosha and John explore why sustainable systems transformation cannot happen through policy and structural change alone. John shares how the Collective Change Lab has increasingly focused on creating the conditions for healing by beginning with resourcing, resilience, and reconnection. Rather than leading with conversations about trauma, he emphasizes the importance of helping individuals and communities reconnect to their own innate healing wisdom and capacity for relationship. Ultimately, John highlights that collective healing is both a personal and systemic process. Healing individuals and communities is essential, but so is transforming the conditions that continue to produce harm. This conversation offers a hopeful vision for how healing centered approaches can strengthen our ability to redesign systems, build resilience, and create lasting social change. It also highlights the growing alignment between the Collective Change Lab and The Pocket Project, whose shared commitment to collective healing is helping shape a new paradigm for transformation. With its lively and fresh take on the nature of resilience, this conversation provides deep insights into a foundational element of collective healing work, and the vision underpinning the Pocket Project's global mission. It' s not too late to join us in the Resilience Program training. Follow this link to sign up for the self-study course of Phase I. Registration is open for Phase II of the training which starts in July. Further Resources: Collective Change Lab podcast: https://soundcloud.com/collective-change-lab Recent podcast featuring John Kania: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4K3wihrIN1Fw97k4Rhrma2?si=jn9eEWpvTO-PNRhvTBP8Bg Healing Systems, article by John Kania, Laura Calderon de la Barca, and Katherine Milligan in Stanford Social Innovation Review. (This was a heavily downloaded article that explores intersection of collective healing and systems change). How Embodiment Transforms Systems Change, latest article from John Kania, Louise Marra, Laura Calderon de la Barca and Lian Zeitz. Pocket Project Resilience Program Pocket Project Resilience Circles About John Kania John is a visionary social sector leader with a passion for inspiring and empowering others to create transformational change. Over the last 30 years he has been a practitioner, researcher, writer, teacher, and speaker on how organizations and people can achieve change together. John is currently the Executive Director of the Collective Change Lab, a nonprofit catalyst and thought leader placing healing at the heart of social and environmental systems change. Prior to founding the Collective Change Lab, John was an Executive-in-Residence at venture philanthropy New Profit, where he co-led the launch of a systems change practice. From 2001 to 2018, John built and ran FSG, a social sector consulting firm and think tank. As Board member and Global Managing Director at FSG, John focused on inspiring FSG's Leadership Team, consultants, and operations staff to achieve excellence in their work, leading strategic initiatives incorporating equity and systems thinking into FSG's culture and strategic perspective. John is a co-author of the ground-breaking Stanford Social Innovation Review articles "Collective Impact," (most read SSIR article ever) "The Dawn of System Leadership," and "The Relational Work of Systems Change." He is also co-author of "The Water of Systems Change," which is being used by practitioners around the world to bring clarity to how social change happens. John currently serves on the boards of Catalyst Now, Third Sector Capital Partners, and the Center for Action and Contemplation. -
Thomas Hübl on Restoring Forward: How Cultivating Resilience Aligns Us With a More Flourishing Future 16.06.2026 34minHosted by Kosha Joubert. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. What is the true meaning of resilience? And how can cultivating our capacity to stay related to life's challenges help us align with a more authentic future? In this powerful episode, Pocket Project CEO Kosha Joubert and the teacher and facilitator Thomas Hübl. explore the essence of the kind of resilience work practiced in the Pocket Project's Global Trauma Relief Projects and the next phase of the Resilience Program training, which starts in July. Thomas explains how a burden of unprocessed trauma can weigh us down and keep us stuck — much like an overloaded boat marooned in a shallow river. Growing our resilience is like restoring the flow of water — helping us to start moving again despite what happened to us. The work of resilience-building is not, in that sense, a return to the past, but a form of post-traumatic growth that allows us to orient towards a more emergent future. "When we integrate the hardship, we are always moving forward. It looks like we are coming back to a more baseline state, but actually we are going to a new form of baseline that is more enriched and a bit wiser than the state before we got hurt," Thomas says. "We're not restoring backwards, we're restoring forwards." Kosha and Thomas also explore how trauma shows up in social systems — acting as "sand in the engine" that hinders collaboration and leads to miscommunication, polarisation and fragmentation. "And as long as we don't see this because it's unconscious, we are fighting all the time with the symptoms," Thomas says. "Collective and intergenerational trauma healing is to turn that into a conscious process, see what we are dealing with, and then from there develop methods and technologies to integrate it." With some concerned that collective healing practices could inadvertently serve to strengthen unjust systems by helping people adapt to oppressive circumstances, Thomas explains that the goal is to establish the level of social coherence and maturity needed to change systems "from the inside out." "That is where I think social justice work and collective trauma work, and maybe the spiritual and mystical work, need to come together to create the pathway to do that," Thomas says. "Healing-centered approaches are a way to pay back the mortgages that we took for thousands of years." With its lively and fresh take on the nature of resilience, this conversation provides deep insights into a foundational element of collective healing work, and the vision underpinning the Pocket Project's global mission. You are invited to join this global movement. This dialogue was recorded during a session in Part 1 of the Pocket Project's Resilience Program training that ran from May to June. Click here to learn more and register for Phase II of the training which starts in July, or to do the self-study course for Phase 1. Further Resources: Pocket Project Resilience Program Pocket Project Resilience Circles Pocket Project Global Trauma Relief Projects Thomas Hübl About Thomas Hübl Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. He is the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. He is a co-founder of the Pocket Project. -
Calling Men into Presence: Masculinity Beyond Separation and Struggle, with Kevin Young 09.06.2026 57minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. What are the barriers standing between men and collective healing? And how can we establish more of the kind of spaces where men can move from confusion, suffering, pain and competition into deeper levels of presence, relatedness, reverence, and grace? In this episode, we welcome Kevin Young, a life coach and meditation teacher based in County Down in Northern Ireland. A facilitator of the Compassionate Inquiry® approach developed by Dr Gabor Maté, Kevin is also a co-host of the Gifts of Trauma podcast, which grew out of the Compassionate Inquiry community, and has just published a four-part series on masculinity. In just the past few months, the revelations in the Epstein Files, the misogynistic male influencers portrayed in the Inside the Manosphere documentary, and a CNN exposé of the Motherless online platform where men swapped tips on how to sedate and assault their wives, have made made male abuses of power seemingly more visible than ever. Against this disturbing backdrop, Kevin and Matthew explore the nature of the suffering experienced by many men struggling to navigate changing cultural expectations, increasingly difficult economic conditions, and a sense of confusion over what it means to be a man in society today. Fresh from a two-week silent retreat in Arizona, Kevin speaks about the journey that led him to forms of spirituality starkly at odds with his upbringing in Northern Ireland – and how that journey has allowed him to bring the balm of lightness and humour to even the deepest wounds. Kevin and Matthew go on to address what it might look like to support young men to navigate the transition into healthy forms of manhood by providing both the role models and rites of passage that are so often lacking. "How might we work with fear? How might we work with shame? How might we work with how you've been conditioned to believe that you should be?" Kevin asks. "I think of compassion, and I think of love, and I think of forgiveness, and I think of reverence and grace — and collective healing can be in there too. For me, these are the fruits or the flowers on the tree of healing. And we can't force these fruits and flowers to bloom or to grow, but what we can do is tend to the tree." This conversation will inspire anyone interested in the question of what collective healing can mean for men, and how to cultivate new models of masculinity oriented towards protecting all that is sacred. Register for the July 1 Global Social Witnessing Call on Tending to Fractured Gender Relations, hosted by the Pocket Project. Further Resources: Kevin Young Kevin Young (LinkedIn) In-Mynd (Kevin's company) Gifts of Trauma The Hakomi Way: Consciousness & Healing, the legacy of Ron Kurtz Compassionate Inquiry®, Dr Gabor Maté Pocket Project Resilience Program The Resonant Man (Matthew Green) About Kevin Young: Kevin is a truth seeker from Co. Down in Ireland. A Compassionate inquiry® facilitator, educator, steward, life coach, meditation teacher and sound bathing experience facilitator. He works privately with individuals and organizations around the globe, is passionate about people, healing, happiness and encouraging compassionate connection. A lover of music, poetry, conscious conversation and spiritual growth, Kevin's favorite word is 'awe'. -
Building Architectures of Grace: How Contemporary Mysticism Can Help Us Lead in Chaotic Times, with Robin Alfred 02.06.2026 1t 1minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. What relevance do timeless mystical principles have for the way we work with groups of people today? And how can contemporary forms of "applied mysticism" help us rise to the challenge of these chaotic times? For 35 years, Robin Alfred has been facilitating transformational processes for groups ranging in size from six to 600 people and encompassing everyone from U.N. climate experts and nonprofit leaders to government officials and corporate executives. In his forthcoming book Emergent Leadership: Applied Mysticism for Complex Times, Robin distils the essence of what he has learned about applying mystical principles in these contexts and the breakthroughs this approach can unlock. In this episode, Matthew and Robin dive deeply into a question at the core of both Robin's book and this podcast: What does it take to establish the kind of coherent field that can change the destiny of individuals and organisations, foster innovation and genius, and help heal the individual, ancestral and collective trauma that traps us in repeating loops from the past? Robin explains how the phrase 'applied mysticism' came to him during a training he was running two years ago called The Art of Facilitating Transformational Fields, which explored how to tap into a higher organising principle to help guide what happens in a space. "Contemporary mysticism is a mysticism that is continually being revealed. It's not something that is fixed in time. It's not something that is thousands of years old. It has a contemporary updating aspect to it," Robin says. "And embodied mysticism also means that it's a mysticism that isn't just a philosophy, it's something that lives in the cells of my being." Robin shares his sense of the growing willingness of people working in many different kinds of organisations to embrace more soul-oriented approaches as the planetary crisis reveals the limits of business as usual – and the opportunities this opens up. "They know that there has to be another approach, that the existing approaches don't work," Robin says. "So the inner life of the leader is important. The collective fields are important. How do you create a healing field at work? That's important. Belonging is important. All these things become more and more important because people see that the traditional ways of approaching all this have led us into this huge dysfunction." Matthew and Robin also explore the role of presence, precision, intention and humility in working with organisations – and some of the most striking and challenging moments from Robin's long facilitation career. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone who wants to gain a deeper understanding of how mystical principles can be applied to support organisations to evolve – and hear more about how they can equip us to play a leadership role in the face of the world's escalating challenges. Robin's book Emergent Leadership: Applied Mysticism for Complex Times is published by Open Circle in August. Further Resources: Pocket Project Resilience Program Open Circle Consulting Emergent Leadership, Robin's training in applied mysticism The Art of Facilitating Transformational Fields (Article by Robin for Mobius Strip) About Robin Alfred: Robin Alfred is an executive coach, facilitator, and organisational consultant with over 35 years of experience working globally with NGOs, top teams, SMEs and individuals. A former criminal justice social work manager in London, Robin later co-founded Open Circle Consulting, bridging inner and outer transformation. His trauma-informed, emergent approach integrates frameworks including Appreciative Inquiry, Process Work, and Archetypes at WorkTM . A Senior Student of Thomas Hübl, he supports international trainings on collective trauma and mysticism. Robin also serves on the Pocket Project's Trauma Consultancy Team and teaches "Emergent Leadership," a training in applied mysticism. -
Presencing America's Ugly Truths: Collective Healing in a Time of Collapse, with Hawah Kasat & Reggie Hubbard 26.05.2026 55minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. How does the source code underlying centuries of global colonialism live on in our minds and bodies? And how can we transmute the legacy of this monumental collective trauma field into an authentic commitment to justice, restoration, and repair? In this episode, Hawah Kasat, host of Everlutionary, and Reggie Hubbard, founder of Active Peace Yoga, lay out a vision of collective healing informed by decades of community organising, racial healing work, social justice activism, and spiritual practice — and explore the role white-bodied people can play. As the United States descends into increasingly overt displays of authoritarianism, racism and bigotry, Hawah and Reggie say their country must confront the mindset that enabled past acts of enslavement, genocide and gender violence — and continues to orchestrate new forms of oppression in the here and now. "America's truths are ugly and we as a culture have not reckoned with the ugly," Reggie says. "And when you don't reckon with the ugly, you can't be surprised when the monster gets in your face." With Matthew Green co-facilitating a Pocket Project Integration Lab exploring British colonialism with Manda Johnson (our guest on Episode One of What Is Collective Healing?), Hawah and Reggie also share perspectives on the role descendants of colonisers can play in meeting this moment. While the process of confronting legacies of historical oppression can unearth buried layers of grief and shame, Hawah and Reggie see this work as essential to building authentic relationships with communities impacted by past colonial actions. "I think it's important that we can understand that we are not who our ancestors were," Hawah says. "And the only way to make sure that we never allow that to happen again is to acknowledge what our ancestors did…We have to trust each other with our hearts, with our grief. With our words, with our emotions." This episode opens a window into both the perils posed by a rising tide of authoritarianism and the necessity of exploring the unresolved collective and inter-generational trauma layers that are causing past patterns of domination, repression and exploitation to play on repeat. Lighting the way for anyone committed to transmuting these cycles, Hawah and Reggie show how we can retire the colonial operating system in favour of a paradigm rooted in our fundamental inter-dependence. "What does it mean to heal when there is so much dis-ease or disease that is rampant physically and emotionally and psycho-spiritually?" Hawah asks. "So collective healing to me is that experience of us understanding that we need to remember that healing is a universal goal and it involves all of us in joint action toward a desire for being whole." Further Resources: Hawah Kasat (Official Website) Everlutionary: Healing and Transforming the World (Hawah's podcast) Roots to Sky Sanctuary (Hawah Kasat) Insight Timer (Hawah Kasat) Instagram (Hawah Kasat) Active Peace Yoga (Reggie Hubbard) Pure Sound to Ground (Reggie Hubbard) Active Peace YouTube (Reggie Hubbard) The Power of A Purposeful Pause (Reggie Hubbard) Pocket Project Integration Labs Further Resources: Resilience Program About HawaH Kasat: Hawah Kasat is a celebrated global humanitarian, author, educator, non-profit leader, TEDx speaker, and yogi. He has over 25 years of experience training teachers around the globe and leading dynamic shamanic classes at conferences and festivals. Over the years, he has authored 4 books and produced 4 documentary films. In the year 2000, he co-founded One Common Unity (OCU), an award-winning non-profit organization that heals cycles of violence and trauma through social-emotional literacy, conflict transformation, mindfulness, mental health, and arts programming. During his time as Executive Director, OCU impacted over 40,000 youth and families in Washington, DC. Most recently, Hawah helped launch Roots to Sky Sanctuary, a 125-acre regenerative farm and healing arts center situated in northern Appalachia, where he serves as a Managing Partner. About Reggie Hubbard: Reggie Hubbard is the founder/Chief Serving Officer of Active Peace LLC. He has done many things, but is most proud of being a caring human, a stroke survivor, teacher/wisdom steward, strategist, organizer, spiritual advisor, minister of sound and devoted seeker of truth, compassion, health, well-being and justice for all. Through Active Peace, he teaches all walks of life through wisdom, movement, meditation and sound, ways to cultivate well-being as a foundation rather than an afterthought. -
Embracing Migration in a Culture of Care, with Ana María Araos 19.05.2026 56minHosted by Sonita Mbah Produced by J'aime Rothbard When migrants arrive in host countries, authorities tend to assume that it's up to the newcomers to adapt — not the other way around. What if we could create cultures of welcome to support a two-way process — where both migrants and hosts embrace opportunities to learn and adapt? In this episode, Colombian philosopher turned culture change researcher Ana María Araos and co-host Sonita Mbah explore the Pocket Project's new Cultures of Welcome programme. Launched this month in Germany, where both Ana María and Sonita live, this initiative supports organisations, leaders and migrant communities to build the relational capacities needed to allow a true sense of welcome and belonging to emerge. As fellow migrants living in Berlin, Sonita and Ana María explore the growing challenges facing migrants in Germany — where 25.2 million people of the country's population of 83.7 million have a migrant or refugee background. Ana María recounts how she first moved to Germany in 2011 then returned to Colombia nine months after her daughter was born in 2015. Having moved back to Germany in August, 2023, Ana María has seen how political changes in the country have negatively impacted migrants, many of whom live with a growing sense of insecurity and fear. Ana María and Sonita explore both the opportunities for connection and the challenges they have experienced integrating into German society — and envision a future of reciprocity where both migrants and host cultures can help each other to thrive. This dialogue provides a moving insight into the complexities migrants face in building new lives and shows how the kind of resilience practices offered by the Pocket Project are being adapted to tackle pressing global challenges. Further Resources: Cultures of Welcome Sensata (Ana María's research consultancy) Ana María's on LinkedIn Resilience Program About Ana María Araos: Ana María is a Colombian philosopher turned culture change researcher, driven by one question: How is collective change actually possible? Since 2013, she has helped organizations and governments design, implement, and measure collective change initiatives. In 2019, she founded Sensata Research to reinvent data collection — moving away from extractive methods that consume people's time, attention, and cognitive effort — and began supporting changemakers across Latin America with evidence-based insights. In 2023, Ana María moved to Berlin. There, she confronted her own complicity in a model of research rooted in prediction, control, and objectivity. She is now transitioning toward a practice that honors the interconnectedness of all beings, an inquiry that pursues resonance and collective wisdom. Today, Sensata Research operates from Berlin, helping changemakers build monitoring, evaluation, and learning systems that allow organizations to be transformed by the encounters with the very people they seek to serve. -
Our One-Year Anniversary Special Episode 11.05.2026 51minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. A year ago, we launched What is Collective Healing? to create a platform for practitioners from around the world to share what they are learning as they build the trauma healing architecture of the future. In this special anniversary episode, we've woven together a selection of excerpts into an audio tapestry designed to reflect the enormous diversity of experiences and depth of wisdom conveyed by the more than 40 conversations we've published so far. Timed to mark the start of Phase 1 of the Pocket Project Resilience Program, this episode shows how pioneering work to integrate individual, ancestral and collective trauma offers pathways to a more flourishing global future. We love to hear from listeners in the comments and invite you to continue to journey with us as we gather more inspiring stories in the year ahead that show collective healing is not only possible — it's a living field of intelligence in which we can each play a part. With gratitude, Kosha, Matthew and Sonita. Links to entire episodes, in order of speakers featured in this episode: David Young: The Art of Collective Integration J Dallas Gudgell: Restoring Connections with the More-than-human World Yocheved Sidof: Accessing Ancestral Healing Laura Calderón de la Barca: The Collective Wound of Colonialism Luka Faradsch: Grief as a Gateway to Resilience Stephanie Pizzaro: Embodying the Feminine Nico Forest Heinimann: Recursion or Ruin: AI and the Future of Collective Healing James Scurry: From Bystander to Witness, Transforming Global Media Manda Johnson: Global Social Witnessing Episode Subscribe to What is Collective Healing for Reggie Hubbard & HawaH Kasat -
Organic Intelligence®: Activating Self-Healing Through the Power of Pleasure and Joy, with Steven Hoskinson 05.05.2026 58minHosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. Are we approaching trauma work upside-down? For years, Steven Hoskinson followed conventional psychotherapeutic wisdom by making a person's distress and difficulties the focus of his sessions. But there came a point where he realised there was a better way. By guiding people to notice cues of orientation, enjoyment, pleasure and wellness, Steven discovered that he could help them to activate their capacity for self-healing. This insight led to the development of Organic Intelligence (OI™), an increasingly popular therapeutic modality employed by thousands of practitioners around the world. In this episode, Steven and Matthew explore the essence of Steven's approach and how it's contributing to the broader trauma healing movement. Grounded in the awareness of our sense-experience — or orientation — and recognition of a clients' latent resources, OI recognises how innate wholeness emerges in what Steven calls Post-Trauma Growth. "Our attention has been therapeutically directed toward what the problem is, what the conflict is, what the unconscious dysregulation is," Steven says. "And it is all negatively valenced: It's all about the problem, the challenge, the neurosis, the difficulty that's there. The discovery that I've made after being an orthodox therapist and a somatic trainer in trauma therapy is that that is not the preferred biological method. Instead, we are growing capacity or growing the cup." Rather than exclusively focus on the negative emotions, which amplifies the human "negativity bias", Organic Intelligence activates the mind-body system's natural impulse to restore and rebalance after trauma. This is achieved by supporting people's awareness of sense-connections and the 'window of enjoyment' – the daily experience of simple human pleasures in the here-and-now, despite the pain from the past. "We train to recognize our self-healing capacities, and our coaches identify those for their clients," Steven says. "They reflect those back to the clients in a specifically attuned way that then simply does the work." By providing an accessible introduction to Organic Intelligence, and the journey of discovery that has informed Steven's work, this episode aims to inspire anyone interested in learning more about how committed practitioners are evolving new ways to heal humanity's oldest wounds. "What does it mean to entirely revamp the idea of what trauma healing might really be?" Steven asks. "And how do we begin to implement this on a broader scale?" Coming up at the Pocket Project: Register for Phase 1 of the Resilience Program: Become part of a global network committed to nurturing resilience, coherence, and healing across societal spaces in this practice-based training. Further Resources: Organic Intelligence About Steven Hoskinson: Steven Hoskinson is an internationally recognized teacher, author, and innovator in Post-Trauma Growth (PTG). For over 20 years, he has been a presenter and professional trainer on the global stage, empowering thousands in response to large-scale societal needs. Steve's work at Organic Intelligence® has included teaching as Adjunct Faculty for JFK School of Psychology, Advisory Board Member for The Trauma Foundation, and a founding member of the International Transformational Resilience Coalition (ITRC) National Steering Committee. He has been featured in Dr. Mark Hyman's "Broken Brain" docu-series, the 2019 Plum Village Neuroscience Retreat in France and has provided numerous professional conference presentations and keynote addresses. As Director of Education, he has developed the science-backed OI Trajectory™ professional training programs and continuing education in Post-Trauma Growth.
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