Out Of The System
Leo Climaco
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Out of the System shares stories from entrepreneurs who broke the rules and found success outside conventional paths. Each episode offers real strategies, insights, and lessons for building a business with independence and intention. Topics include innovative marketing, authentic leadership, and practical advice for growth on your own terms. New episodes are released weekly to help listeners accelerate their journey.
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Por que ele se recusa a caber em uma caixa | Victor Meyniel 12.09.2026 56minO que acontece quando você para de tentar caber naquilo que esperam de você?Neste episódio do Out of the System, Leo Clímaco conversa com Victor Meyniel sobre carreira, identidade, sucesso, internet, ambição e a pressão de ser constantemente definido por outras pessoas.Victor fala abertamente sobre sua trajetória, desde os primeiros passos na internet até a construção de uma carreira como ator, comediante e artista — e sobre a decisão de não permitir que rótulos determinem quem ele é.Ao longo da conversa, eles exploram:A trajetória de Victor Meyniel e sua ascensão na internetComo o Vine mudou a relação entre criadores e públicoA transição da internet para o cinema e a televisãoO que significa ser artista no BrasilA importância da ambição e da fé para quem quer construir uma carreiraPor que Victor não gosta de ser colocado em “caixinhas”A pressão para estar sempre produzindo e aparecendo nas redesComo lidar com pessoas que subestimam vocêSucesso como forma de respostaA importância de preservar sua essência ao longo dos anosIdentidade, autenticidade e liberdade para ser quem você éO desejo de deixar uma marca através da conexão com outras pessoasVictor também fala sobre aquilo que gostaria de dizer para a versão mais jovem de si mesmo:“A essência não muda.”Uma conversa sobre permanecer fiel a quem você é enquanto o mundo tenta constantemente dizer quem você deveria ser.Assista ao episódio completo e conte nos comentários:Você já sentiu que precisava se encaixar em uma versão de você que outras pessoas esperavam?Inscreva-se no canal, deixe seu comentário e compartilhe este episódio.#OutOfTheSystem #VictorMeyniel #LeoClimaco #Carreira #Identidade #Autenticidade #Sucesso #Humor #LeoClimaco #Ator #Criatividade -
Ela não faz apenas cirurgias. Ela Reconstrói Vidas | Dra. Svenja Lopez 04.09.2026 1t 17minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with plastic surgeon Dr. Svenja Lopes Kramer, a specialist in reconstructive and craniofacial surgery, for a conversation about medicine, reconstruction, purpose, and the human side of plastic surgery.Svenja shares her journey from Bolivia to Brazil and the moment that changed the direction of her career: witnessing the reconstruction of a child's ear and realizing she wanted to be the person creating that transformation.The conversation goes far beyond aesthetics.They discuss:• Why some patients may not be mentally prepared for surgery• When a doctor needs the courage to say “no”• How mental preparation can influence the patient's experience• The difference between cosmetic and reconstructive surgery• How reconstructive surgeons restore body parts that were lost or did not fully develop• The impact of cleft lip and palate surgery on children and families• Access to surgery and rehabilitation through Brazil's public healthcare system• The differences between medicine in Brazil, Europe, and the United States• Why creativity and adaptability are essential skills for a surgeon• The challenges women face in a predominantly male surgical environment• The importance of having a prepared team before, during, and after surgery• The future of medicine and whether robots could eventually replace doctorsThis episode is about medicine, reconstructive surgery, purpose, and the importance of seeing the person behind the medical problem.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagram@leoclimacopodcastTikTok@leoclimacopodcastYouTube@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websiteleoclimacopodcast.comDr. Svenja Lopes Kramer:@svenja.plastica -
From 7 Years in Prison to $140M in Real Estate | Eric Crutchfield 04.09.2026 1t 16minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with real estate developer and entrepreneur Eric Crutchfield for a powerful conversation about transformation, resilience, real estate, entrepreneurship, and building a new life after incarceration.After being sentenced to 10 years in prison and spending 7½ years behind bars, Eric used that time to immerse himself in self-development, business, and real estate. Today, he has $140 million in real estate projects in his pipeline.They discuss:• How prison became a turning point in Eric's life• The books and ideas that transformed his mindset• How he entered real estate after prison• His first deal and the $53K profit• Going from flipping houses to developing luxury homes• Scaling from a few projects to a $140M pipeline• The difference between real estate development and rental properties• Why you don't need to know everything to become a developer• The importance of location and access to financing• Building a real estate coaching business• Why mindset and execution must work together• Building a lasting legacy through business and real estateThis episode is about resilience, transformation, execution, and proving that your past does not have to determine the trajectory of your future.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comEric Crutchfield:https://www.instagram.com/ericepic23/ -
She Broke the Rules of TV and Created Her Own Path | Kristin Sanchez 21.08.2026 1t 5minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with television and lifestyle host Kristin Sanchez for a conversation about media, authenticity, career, motherhood, health, and the changing landscape of television.Kristin shares her journey from acting to television, the challenges of working in front of the camera, and how she learned to adapt while staying true to herself in an industry that has traditionally encouraged presenters to fit a certain image.They discuss:• Why authenticity is becoming more powerful in media• How traditional television shaped presenters' behavior• The growing influence of creators and influencers• Building a media career without losing your identity• Kristin's experience as a mother of three• Balancing motherhood, career, and personal life• The importance of asking for help and building a support network• Health, nutrition, routines, and wellness in South Florida• The growth of women's communities and wellness events• Building something of your own while evolving professionally• The future of television, podcasts, and digital mediaThis episode is about authenticity, media, motherhood, personal growth, and building a career without losing yourself along the way.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubeOut Of The SystemOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comKristin Sanchez:https://www.instagram.com/kristinsancheztv/ -
The Truth About Money, Real Estate & Taking Control | Jay Monopoly 20.08.2026 1t 24minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with entrepreneur, real estate investor, and law student Jay Monopoly for a conversation about accountability, entrepreneurship, wealth building, mindset, and taking full responsibility for the direction of your life.Jay shares the experiences that shaped his journey from growing up in New York to building businesses, investing in real estate, pursuing law school, and developing a mindset centered around responsibility, resilience, and constant growth.They discuss:• The military lessons that transformed Jay's mindset• Why accountability is more powerful than excuses• Real estate, wholesaling, and building wealth• Why leverage may be the real opportunity in real estate• Entrepreneurship as the art of solving problems• AI, human connection, and the future of business• Politics, government, and personal responsibility• How to separate yourself from your environment and level up• Using a personal SWOT analysis to find your path• Building relationships instead of competing with everyone• The return of The Better Way Show• Learning from setbacks and always looking for a better wayThis episode is about accountability, entrepreneurship, wealth, personal growth, and taking ownership of the life you want to build.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comJay Monopoly:https://www.instagram.com/jay.monopoly/ -
The Truth About Peptides & How to Optimize Your Health Naturally | Shannon Lounden 20.08.2026 35minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with Shannon Loudon for a conversation about longevity, preventative health, peptides, metabolism, hormone optimization, and changing the way we approach aging.Shannon shares how taking a proactive approach to health can help people build a stronger foundation for the future, exploring the role of nutrition, metabolism, peptides, and preventative wellness in healthy aging.They discuss:• Why prevention can be more powerful than treatment• How peptides may support metabolism, energy, and healthy aging• Common misconceptions about longevity• Why modern healthcare can miss the bigger picture• The importance of nutrition and metabolic health• Practical ways to optimize your health before disease appears• Building healthier habits for long-term well-beingThis episode is about longevity, prevention, health optimization, and taking a proactive approach to aging with strength and vitality.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comShannon Loudon:https://www.instagram.com/solshinemethod/ -
Why Millions of Women Suffer in Silence | Kim Vopni 20.08.2026 45minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with pelvic health expert Kim Vopni for a conversation about the pelvic floor, women's health, pregnancy, childbirth, menopause, and the importance of understanding the body before problems arise.Kim explains why pain, urine leakage, and other pelvic health issues should not simply be accepted as a normal part of motherhood or aging, and shares practical insights for protecting pelvic health throughout every stage of life.They discuss:• What the pelvic floor actually is• Why so many women suffer in silence• How to prepare the body for pregnancy and childbirth• The connection between pelvic health and physical strength• How menopause affects women's health• Ways to prevent future pelvic health issues• Building strength, confidence, and quality of life as you ageThis episode is about women's health, pelvic health, prevention, and understanding the body so you can move through every stage of life with greater strength and confidence.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comKim Vopni:https://www.instagram.com/vaginacoach/ -
Your Body Is Never Against You | Dr. Kelly McCann 31.07.2026 41minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with integrative medicine physician Dr. Kelly McCann for a conversation about chronic illness, emotional health, trauma, and the connection between the body and mind.Dr. McCann shares why the body is never working against us, explaining how unresolved emotions, nutrition, lifestyle, and stress can influence our physical health, and why true healing begins by addressing the root cause—not just the symptoms.They discuss:• Why your body is never trying to sabotage you• How emotions can manifest as physical symptoms• The limitations of traditional healthcare• The impact of ultra-processed foods on long-term health• The difference between symptom management and true healing• The connection between trauma, stress, and chronic illness• Why authenticity, vulnerability, and self-awareness support lasting wellnessThis episode is about integrative medicine, emotional healing, root-cause health, and understanding the body as an interconnected system.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comDr. Kelly McCann:https://www.instagram.com/drkellymccann/ -
Do You Live on Autopilot? The Truth About Consciousness | Kate Hobbs 28.07.2026 38minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with actress and energy healer Kate Hobbs for a conversation about consciousness, intuition, authenticity, and what it truly means to awaken.Together, they explore how unconscious patterns shape our lives, why so many people operate on autopilot, and how becoming more self-aware can transform the way we think, feel, and make decisions.They discuss:• What it means to live on autopilot• How to cultivate greater self-awareness• The role of intuition and energy in everyday life• Why authenticity is essential for personal growth• Recognizing patterns that keep you stuck• Spiritual awakening and expanding consciousness• Finding purpose through intentional livingThis episode is about consciousness, personal growth, self-awareness, and exploring new perspectives on what it means to live with intention.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comKate Hobbs:https://www.instagram.com/khhobbs13/ -
She Found Her Purpose — And It Might Help You Find Yours | Emerald Lockett 28.07.2026 20minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with entrepreneur and speaker Emerald Locket for a conversation about purpose, courage, leadership, motherhood, and creating meaningful impact.Recorded in Cannes, France, during the world premiere of the sHEALed documentary, Emerald shares personal insights on building a legacy, overcoming fear, and using your voice to inspire and serve others.They discuss:• Finding clarity in your purpose• Why meaningful relationships create new opportunities• The power of podcasting and authentic conversations• Building a lasting legacy through motherhood• Overcoming fear and taking action before you're ready• Serving others through your message• Personal growth, leadership, and living with intentionThis episode is about purpose, authentic connection, personal growth, and creating a life of impact through courage and meaningful relationships.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comEmerald Locket:https://www.instagram.com/emeraldlockett/ -
The Truth About Root Canals & Biological Dentistry | Dr. Yuriy May 21.07.2026 22minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with biological dentist Dr. Yuriy May for a conversation about oral health, biological dentistry, chronic inflammation, and the connection between the mouth and the rest of the body.Recorded in Cannes, France, during the world premiere of the sHEALed documentary, Dr. May explains why dentistry goes far beyond treating teeth, exploring how the oral microbiome, hidden infections, and biocompatible materials may influence long-term health and overall well-being.They discuss:• What biological dentistry is and how it differs from conventional dentistry• Why root canals remain controversial• The connection between oral health and chronic disease• Ceramic vs. titanium dental implants• How the oral microbiome impacts the body• Chronic inflammation and hidden dental infections• Daily habits that support better oral healthThis episode is about biological dentistry, preventive health, longevity, and understanding how oral health influences the entire body.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comDr. Yuriy May:https://www.instagram.com/naturaldentistrycenter/ -
How Your Teeth Affect Your Entire Body | Dr. Timothy Adams 17.07.2026 25minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with Dr. Timothy Adams for a conversation about biological dentistry, fascia, regenerative medicine, and the interconnected nature of the human body.Recorded in Cannes, France, during the world premiere of the sHEALed documentary, Dr. Adams shares how oral health, facial structure, fascia, energy, and overall well-being may be more closely connected than most people realize.They discuss:• How oral health may influence the entire body• The connection between fascia and overall wellness• The role of energy and frequency in healing• Quantum physics and its relationship to modern dentistry• How oral health affects posture, breathing, and performance• The future of biological and regenerative dentistry• Viewing the body as one interconnected systemThis episode is about biological dentistry, regenerative health, human optimization, and exploring a new perspective on healing and wellness.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comDr. Timothy Adams:https://www.instagram.com/drtimothyadams/ -
Peptides and Stem Cells: The Future of Medicine Is Here | Dr. Sabrina Solt 14.07.2026 27minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with Dr. Sabrina Solt for a conversation about regenerative medicine, peptides, stem cells, and the future of healthy aging.Recorded in Cannes, France, during the world premiere of the sHEALed documentary, Dr. Solt explains how regenerative therapies are transforming modern healthcare by supporting recovery, reducing inflammation, preserving muscle mass, and optimizing long-term health.They discuss:• What peptides are and how they work• The science behind stem cell therapy• Who may benefit from regenerative medicine• Common myths surrounding stem cell treatments• How regenerative therapies support healthy aging• Reducing inflammation and improving recovery• The future of preventive and regenerative healthcareThis episode is about longevity, regenerative medicine, health optimization, and redefining the way we think about aging.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comDr. Sabrina Solt:https://www.instagram.com/drsolt/ -
Why Modern Medicine Treats Symptoms, Not the Root Cause | Dr. Ana Maria Temple 07.07.2026 44minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with integrative pediatrician Dr. Ana Maria Temple for a conversation about root-cause medicine, nutrition, inflammation, children's health, and building healthier families through prevention.Dr. Temple shares why modern healthcare often focuses on managing symptoms instead of addressing the underlying causes of disease, and explains how nutrition, lifestyle, and reducing everyday toxins can have a lasting impact on long-term health.They discuss:• Why treating root causes matters more than treating symptoms• The effects of glyphosate and ultra-processed foods• Raising healthier children through nutrition and lifestyle• The principles of integrative medicine• Simple ways to reduce toxins in daily life• Preventing chronic disease through healthy habits• Creating sustainable wellness for the entire familyThis episode is about prevention, nutrition, integrative health, and empowering families to take control of their long-term well-being.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comDr. Ana Maria Temple:https://www.instagram.com/dranamariatemple/ -
The Therapy That Could Revolutionize Your Health (Without Medication) | Andy Smith 04.07.2026 35minIn this episode, Leo Climaco sits down with biohacking expert and Seller8 founder Andy Smith for a conversation about PEMF Therapy, recovery, longevity, and the future of preventive health.Andy explains how Pulsed Electromagnetic Field (PEMF) Therapy works, why it's gaining attention in the world of health optimization, and how it may support recovery, energy, sleep, and overall performance.They discuss:• What PEMF Therapy is and how it works• How PEMF may support recovery and cellular function• The differences between PEMF, Red Light Therapy, and peptides• Natural ways to improve energy, sleep, and performance• The role of biohacking in preventive health• Why PEMF remains misunderstood and controversial• Optimizing health through technology and lifestyleThis episode is about biohacking, recovery, longevity, and using innovative technologies to optimize your health and performance.Follow Leo Climaco:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Websitehttp://leoclimacopodcast.comAndy Smith:https://www.instagram.com/andysmith_pemf/https://www.instagram.com/thepemfpodcast/ -
The Coach on a Mission to Make New York Stronger | Kenny Santucci 30.06.2026 1t 29minKenny Santucci believes fitness should be accessible to everyone. What started with 50 people training in a gym basement has grown into Strong New York, one of the city's largest fitness and wellness events.In this episode of Out of the System, Leo Climaco and Kenny Santucci discuss fitness, discipline, longevity, entrepreneurship, and building a movement that inspires healthier communities.They discuss:• Why you should treat your body like a business• How small, consistent habits create lasting results• The true meaning of strength and resilience• Helping people of all ages transform their health through movement• The role of fitness in improving both physical and mental well-being• Building Strong New York from a small community into a citywide movement• Growing a successful brand while staying connected to coaching and serving others• The importance of collaboration, leadership, and creating opportunities for others• Developing discipline that extends beyond the gym into every area of lifeThis episode explores fitness, health, entrepreneurship, leadership, and the habits that lead to a stronger body, mind, and life.Follow Out of the System:Instagram@leoclimacopodcastTikTok@leoclimacopodcastYouTube@leoclimacopodcastOfficial WebsiteOut of the SystemKenny Santucci:Instagram@kennysantucci -
How She Climbed Out of Rock Bottom — 1% at a Time | Natasha Graziano 26.06.2026 43minNatasha Graziano lost her health, her money, and nearly her life—twice. She rebuilt everything and turned her journey into a mission to inspire millions around the world.In this episode of *Out of the System*, Leo Climaco and Natasha Graziano discuss resilience, mindset, personal transformation, entrepreneurship, and creating a life of purpose.They discuss:• Overcoming a severe autoimmune disease and two near-death experiences• How gratitude became the foundation of her personal and professional success• The moment she felt called by God to become a motivational speaker• Raising her son as a single mother and finding purpose through adversity• The "1% better every day" philosophy for creating lasting change• Losing millions multiple times and the lessons that came from starting over• Viewing money as a tool for impact, including building a school in Guatemala• The mindset and habits that have helped her reach millions around the world• Turning pain, setbacks, and failure into fuel for growthThis episode explores resilience, personal growth, faith, entrepreneurship, and the power of rebuilding your life with purpose and intention.**Follow Out of the System:**Instagram@leoclimacopodcastTikTok@leoclimacopodcastYouTube@leoclimacopodcastOfficial WebsiteOut of the SystemNatasha Graziano:Instagram@natashagraziano -
She Was Humiliated at Work — Then Built an Empire | Jen Conkey 23.06.2026 1t 40minJen Conkey once had just 35 cents in her bank account. Today, she manages more than $160 million in assets across multiple industries.In this episode of Out of the System, Leo Climaco and Jen Conkey discuss investing, financial freedom, entrepreneurship, wealth building, and creating income-producing assets.They discuss:• Growing up between two very different financial realities and the lessons that shaped her mindset• Leaving a 22-year corporate career to pursue financial independence• The moment she quit her job after being publicly humiliated in front of her team• Why job security is often an illusion• Her philosophy of living on 70%, investing 20%, and saving 10%• The strategy of buying assets first and allowing them to fund your lifestyle• Building a portfolio of more than 2,500 real estate units• The four asset classes she invests in: real estate, oil and gas, self-storage, and dividend-paying investments• Why adaptability will be one of the most valuable skills in the age of AI• Creating long-term wealth through discipline, strategy, and consistent actionThis episode explores investing, financial literacy, entrepreneurship, and the mindset required to build lasting wealth and financial freedom.Follow Out of the System:Instagram@leoclimacopodcastTikTok@leoclimacopodcastYouTube@leoclimacopodcastOfficial WebsiteOut of the SystemJen Conkey:Instagram@jenconkey -
How a Brazilian Woman Broke Into Hollywood Without Asking for Permission | Carolina Brasil 19.06.2026 2t 2minShe left the ballet stage, built a fashion brand, became a film producer — and now has two films headed to Cannes.In this episode of Out of the System, Leo Climaco sits down with Carolina Brazil — ballerina trained by the Royal Academy of Dance in London, former fashion designer, entrepreneur, and Brazilian film producer with more than 12 projects to her name. Born and raised in Ipanema, Rio de Janeiro, she built multiple careers by following one simple principle: never wait for permission, and always leave a seed of love wherever you go.They discuss:• How she built a ballet studio with 180 students at just 19 years old• Her transition from fashion to independent filmmaking and what it meant to leave ego behind• The two films she is taking to Cannes and a feature film about a director on the autism spectrum• Why she brought ballet to Rocinha when everyone said it was impossible• Her relationship with God, faith, forgiveness, and the importance of letting go• The philosophy behind being “Unstoppable” and why your first attempt doesn’t have to be your best• Reinvention, creativity, and building across multiple industries with purposeA powerful conversation about reinvention, faith, creativity, love, and building a life led by purpose.Follow Out of the System:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leoclimacopodcast/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@leoclimacopodcastYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@leoclimacopodcastOfficial Website: http://leoclimacopodcast.comConnect with Carolina:https://www.instagram.com/carolinabrasilofficial/ -
He Almost Became a Millionaire — Then Lost Everything in Crypto. | Karl Smith 16.06.2026 2t 34minHe was just cents away from reaching $1 million. Then the market turned — and he watched it all disappear right in front of him.In this episode of Out of the System, Leo Climaco sits down with Karl Smith, better known as K Smith Inspires — entrepreneur, mentor, speaker, and creator of the Reinvention Blueprint. The son of Haitian immigrants, raised in Miami, Karl went from spending two years broke in direct sales (while everyone laughed at him) to earning six figures by age 21 — only to learn the hard way the difference between making money and keeping money.They discuss:• How he spent two years making nothing before his first major breakthrough• Losing nearly $1 million in crypto — and why he realized he needed equity• His time on a reality show that made him “the most hated man in America”• The “50-meter headlights” mindset: how to keep moving forward even when you can’t see the full path• Why selling is simply influence — and influence is leadership• The Warren Buffett story and the power of compound interest• His study of billionaires and the one trait they all shareA powerful conversation about failure, reinvention, sales, money, and building from the ground up.Follow Out of the System:Instagram: @leoclimacopodcastTikTok: @leoclimacopodcastYouTube: @leoclimacopodcastOfficial Website: Out of the SystemKarl Smith:@ksmithinspires#OutOfTheSystem #KSmithInspires #Entrepreneurship #Sales #Mindset #Reinvention #LeoClimaco
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