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  The Trend Forecaster Who Coined "Vibe Shift" on What Comes Next (with Sean Monahan) 14.09.2026 1t 10min

  *SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.* Trend forecaster Sean Monahan coined the "vibe shift" five years ago to describe the unease millennials felt coming out of the pandemic. Of all the terms Monahan has coined — from "normcore" to the "boom boom aesthetic" — the vibe shift may have been the stickiest. He and Amy revisited his predictions from five years ago and discuss what he got right and wrong. Monahan offers predictions on whether smart glasses will take; where rage bait is heading; the future of "flexing"; where the Met Gala goes from here; and what luxury fashion has to do to recover. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 03:00 The boom boom aesthetic and the '80s that weren't 06:00 Why crypto killed streetwear 08:30 Normcore, and the anxiety behind it 19:00 Did tackiness give way to taste? 24:00 Smart glasses, glassholes and surveillance 38:00 Rage bait and the clipping economy 47:30 'The Devil Wears Prada 2' and Jeff Bezos 1:04:30 How does luxury fashion recover? 📩SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Back Row on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amy_odell 📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow 📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Sean Monahan 📷 Follow Sean on Instagram: @8ghtb4ll 📩 Read 8Ball: https://www.8ball.report/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  How the Very Rich Really Live, From Billionaires' Row to Lauren Sánchez Bezos 08.09.2026 49min

  Amy Chozick has spent her career writing about polarizing women — she covered Hillary Clinton for The New York Times, profiled Elizabeth Holmes right before prison, followed Stormy Daniels for Vogue, and wrote the widely dissected profile of Lauren Sánchez Bezos. Her new novel, With Friends Like You (https://amzn.to/4yjRlvI), follows Emily, a broke new mom in Manhattan, who goes looking for the college friend who vanished — and finds her working as a high-end escort to billionaires. To write the book, she researched the world of the ultra-rich obsessively. She also reveals what surprised her about Lauren Sánchez Bezos, discusses the detail everyone rehashed from that profile, and more. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:00 A new mother, a missing friend, and a billionaire's escort 4:00 Billionaires' Row and the empty towers 13:00 Covering Hillary Clinton, and what power does to people 17:00 Profiling Lauren Sánchez Bezos 23:00 "They stopped apologizing" — the new rich 30:00 Hillary's suits, Lauren's taped-up Vogue pages 41:00 Is fashion getting tackier? Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy With Friends Like You: A Novel: https://amzn.to/4yjRlvI Follow Back Row: @backrow Follow Amy: @instamyodell Follow Amy Chozick: @amychozick Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Met Cancels the John Galliano Retrospective (with Dana Thomas) [TEASER] 01.09.2026 16min

  This is a teaser of a paywalled episode. To listen in full, become a paid subscriber of Back Row at: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Or sign up in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. In a stunning move, the Metropolitan Museum of Art has cancelled "John Galliano: Horizons," the Costume Institute retrospective planned for May 2027. Galliano's biographer and fashion journalist Dana Thomas joined Amy hours after the Met made the announcement. They discuss what this means for fashion, for John Galliano, and for the Met Gala's planner and previously all-powerful architect, Anna Wintour. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:30 Why Dana wasn't surprised 01:30 When you lose the politicians and the donors 03:00 "Not an aberration" — Dana's New York Times op-ed 05:00 The incidents that never got reported 06:00 The 2019 spa incident 07:30 What the comment sections revealed 11:30 Philippe Virgitti, still waiting for an apology Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy Gods and Kings: The Rise and Fall of Alexander McQueen and John Galliano: https://amzn.to/4cSeZHw Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  'The September Issue' Rewatch: Anna Wintour, Grace Coddington, and the Sienna Miller Hair Crisis (with Kate Casey) 31.08.2026 1t 11min

  *SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription and get access to 'The September Issue' Rewatch Bonus episode!* The September Issue is R.J. Cutler's 2009 documentary about the biggest issue of Vogue ever made up to that point — 843 pages, 13 million copies sold. Amy is joined by Kate Casey, host of Reality Life with Kate Casey and a documentary and reality TV expert, to rewatch it seventeen years later. They get into what Anna Wintour really thought of the film, why she and her Vogue team hated Sienna Miller's hair so much, how it all aged, and much more. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:00 13 million copies sold — and what's left now 06:00 How Anna and Grace actually met 17:30 The retailers' breakfast, when Vogue set the trends 25:00 "Your girls always look the same" - Anna at her harshest 41:00 Anna at home, and the kids who didn't follow her 48:00 The Sienna Miller cover disaster 1:07:00 843 pages, and the era that ended 📺 SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe 📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow 📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Kate Casey 🎙️ Reality Life with Kate Casey: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reality-life-with-kate-casey/id1154758766 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iZzKUbEWAsWVkFRebb9Gu 📷 Follow Kate on Instagram: @katecaseyca This episode was edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  How Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen Built Two Billion-Dollar Empires (Part 1) 24.08.2026 1t

  Back Row is on vacation this week, so we're revisiting one of the most popular episodes of the year: a two-parter on Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, in honor of The Row's 20th anniversary. Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen were on television before they could talk and millionaires before they could read. Former Us Weekly editor-in-chief Dan Wakeford, author of the new ⁠Celebrity Intelligence newsletter⁠, joins Back Row to break down the Full House casting story, the Dual Star empire, the billion-dollar licensing machine, and the NYU years that changed everything. Part Two — revealing the secrets behind The Row — is available to Premium subscribers. Sign up at ⁠Back Row⁠ (https://www.backrow.net/subscribe) to get newsletter access included with your subscription, or in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. ⁠Find Part Two in Apple Podcasts here⁠ ⁠Find Part Two in Spotify here⁠ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:40 Dan Wakeford and Celebrity Intelligence 02:47 Why the Olsens are a unique case study 07:50 The Full House casting story 10:07 The reality of child stardom 16:22 How their personalities diverged early 19:49 From pennies to $80,000 an episode 26:27 The home video empire begins 33:28 The billion dollar licensing machine 48:00 Turning 18 and taking control 53:41 NYU and the paparazzi years 57:47 How everything changed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  'Matcha, Pilates, Alo' Enters Its Flop Era: Inside the Influencer Recession 17.08.2026 38min

  SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription. Is everything on social media — even lifestyle content — just rage bait now? New York Magazine features writer Rebecca Jennings joins Amy to unpack her hit Vulture piece on the "influencer recession," when aspirational content no longer works and creators have to come up with "brand-safe rage bait." What does this mean both for the content landscape but also, for rage itself? CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:00 What is the "influencer recession"? 02:45 The clipping economy & fake virality 05:15 Audrey Peters & the $25 DoorDash coffee 10:30 Why the Alo yacht flopped 14:35 Why Birkins are embarrassing now 19:30 The OpenAI influencer farm trip 24:00 Brands manufacturing their own rage bait 30:00 How Substack changed the game 34:30 Is rage bait losing its power? Read Rebecca's story: The Influencer Recession — https://www.vulture.com/article/influencer-recession-audrey-peters-interview.html Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Is Fashion in Total Creative Collapse? 10.08.2026 41min

  *SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.* Is fashion in the throes of a total creative collapse? Critic Eugene Rabkin — founder of StyleZeitgeist and author of the new book Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism — joins Amy to make the case. He argues luxury has "devolved into a consumerist spectacle," its lack of ideas papered over by relentless marketing. They get into the greedflation behind a $140,000 Dior dress, why "craftsmanship" is the industry's greatest con, the Italian sweatshop scandals that never seem to stick, how Bernard Arnault turned the fashion world into the fashion industry — and the death of criticism, and why nobody seems to care. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:30 Fashion's creative collapse: the thesis 08:30 Greedflation & the $140,000 Dior dress 13:00 The craftsmanship con 15:00 Sweatshop scandals: Dior & Loro Piana's vicuña 23:30 The death of fashion criticism 32:00 Bernard Arnault & how he industrialized fashion 📺 SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe 📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow 📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Eugene Rabkin 📷 Follow Eugene on Instagram: @eugenerabkin 📚 Buy the book: Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism This episode was edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  John Galliano Is Finally Getting a Met Gala. Should He? (Teaser) 04.08.2026 8min

  John Galliano is the subject of the Costume Institute's 2027 exhibition and will be celebrated with his very own Met Gala. Galliano's biographer Dana Thomas — author of Gods and Kings, a dual biography about Galliano and Alexander McQueen — joins the show to talk about what this means. Amy and Dana recap Galliano's fall from grace and image rehabilitation — thanks to Anna Wintour. This is a free preview. Hear the full conversation — a detailed recap of the controversy, the apology Galliano never made, and Amy's take on whether the Met should honor him — in the full episode in Back Row Premium. Sign up for the newsletter at backrow.net/subscribe to access the newsletter plus all Premium podcasts, or subscribe for audio only in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Louvre Heist and Shady Billionaire Art Owners 03.08.2026 45min

  "Parisian Heist" author Jo Piazza joins Amy to break down the October 2025 Louvre robbery — the suspects, the mysterious "sponsor," and why authorities aren't sure the suspects are telling the truth. Plus: why museum security is so basic, how art gets used to launder money and fund violent crime, the billionaire families who quietly run the art market, and what a $181 million Jackson Pollock says about the state of art and wealth. (00:00) Introduction (02:30) Recap: the Louvre heist, October 19, 2025 (04:30) The Isabella Stewart Gardner heist: $500M, still unsolved (07:30) The arrests and the mysterious "sponsor" named Joe (08:30) How basic museum security really is (13:00) What was stolen: the Napoleonic crown jewels (16:30) The Wildensteins & how art launders money (30:00) The $60 billion shadow art market (31:00) Restoring Empress Eugénie's crown & the French jewelry houses (38:30) The $181M Pollock & Jerry Saltz's takedown of the art market Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy The Parisian Heist: https://amzn.to/4yLV6ex Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell · Follow Jo: @jopiazzaauthor Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  How Meta Turned Smart Glasses Into 'Hot Surveillance Summer' (with Taylor Lorenz) 30.07.2026 43min

  In this special episode in collaboration with the Power User podcast Amy Odell joins tech journalist Taylor Lorenz to trace the arc of wearable tech — from the abomination that was Google Glass to Snapchat's vending-machine Spectacles and the company's recent $2,000 flop. Also, why Meta's rollout of it's new $299 fashion-first AI glasses, odious as many find them, may end up being a smash hit. Follow Taylor's show Power User on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube, and subscribe to her newsletter, UserMag. Chapters: 00:00 Intro — why everyone's arguing about Meta's glasses 01:36 Turning a camera into a fashion accessory 01:55 Welcome + the "hot surveillance summer" question 02:45 Google Glass and the original abomination 04:16 Snapchat Spectacles, vending machines, and a $130 flop 06:48 GoPro and how sports normalized filming everything 08:55 Ray-Ban Stories (2021) and the "creep" problem 10:57 2025: Oakley Meta and the first AI glasses 11:55 2026: low-profile frames, rhinestones, and AI as the real sell 13:25 The influencer rollout and the decline of fashion media 18:39 Why Kylie Jenner 21:40 How phones already normalized recording everything 24:56 Fashion, plausible deniability, and getting women on board 26:20 Will they actually sell? Meta's copy machine 29:19 The anti-screen crowd may be Meta's best customer 32:14 Beyond glasses: pins, pendants, and camera AirPods 35:29 Who owns the data? Facial recognition and the scary part 37:11 Zuckerberg, Bezos, the Met Gala, and OpenAI's fashion play 39:59 Snap's $2,000 flop and why ugly tech dies 43:03 Wrap-up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Kennedys and British Royals: Diana's Death, Meghan Markle's Muse, and JFK Jr.'s Ego 27.07.2026 58min

  ***SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.*** Town & Country editor Caroline Hallemann's new book is The Kennedys and the Windsors: The Story of Two Dynasties, One Born, One Made. She joins Amy to discuss the eerie parallels between these two dynasties. Among the surprising stories in Hallemann's book: how Jackie Kennedy fought to keep wearing French designers as First Lady, why JFK Jr. wanted Princess Diana on the cover of George, the real story behind Diana's death and the ongoing conspiracy theories, and how Meghan Markle copied Carolyn Bessette's style. Plus: what Jack Schlossberg's blistering congressional loss means for the Kennedy dynasty. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 03:00 Young Jackie at Miss Porter's and her enduring fashion influence 08:00 What "American Love Story" got wrong about Carolyn Bessette 10:30 JFK Jr. launches George magazine 14:00 Why John wanted Diana on the cover 20:00 Diana's death: what actually happened 32:00 The conspiracy theories that still swirl around Diana's death 39:00 Why Meghan Markle keeps copying Carolyn Bessette's style 53:00 Is Jack Schlossberg the next JFK Jr.? Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Follow Caroline Hallemann: https://www.instagram.com/challemann/ Buy the book: https://amzn.to/4fVX8Bq Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  A Stylist to Billionaires on How the .01 Percent Really Shop 20.07.2026 24min

  This is a teaser of a paywalled podcast. Get the full episode by subscribing to the Back Row newsletter. For podcast content only, go Premium on Apple or Spotify. Joy Cioci has been in fashion for 23 years — first with her own ready-to-wear and bridal brand, and for the past six years, as a private stylist to some of the wealthiest families in the country. She joins Amy to talk about what that job is actually like: how she pulls $80-90K worth of merchandise on loan for a single client, why some of her clients refuse to play the Hermès "game," and why women spending $1.5 million a year on clothes have no idea what just dropped at Chanel. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 4:00 Who Joy's clients actually are 9:30 How pulling merchandise on loan from stores works 11:00 Inside an $80-90K shopping trip 18:00 What ultra-wealthy people actually want from their wardrobe 21:00 Finding rare pieces no one else has Follow Joy Cioci 📸 Follow Joy on Instagram: @joycioci 🛍️ Shop Joy Cioci: https://joycioci.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Phia's Latest Scandal: Is Phoebe Gates's Startup in Trouble? 15.07.2026 49min

  Lawyer and The Fashion Law founder Julie Zerbo makes her Back Row pod debut to discuss the latest Phia scandal. The startup, founded by Bill Gates's daughter Phoebe Gates and her Stanford roommate Sophia Kianni, was just found to be taking credit for affiliate sales it did not drive. People are calling it "fraud" but is it, really? Can the Gates name and a slew of celeb founders help them sail through this unscathed? Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 02:32 Phia's origin story and Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kiani's Stanford beginnings 09:16 The first scandal: Fortune's report on Phia's data collection 16:17 The second scandal: Bloomberg's cookie-stuffing investigation 19:18 Explaining cookie stuffing — and the Honey/PayPal lawsuits 27:23 Did Phia's investors do proper due diligence? 36:22 Could this be fraud? The legal answer 43:15 Does Phia's celebrity halo make it bulletproof? Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Follow Julie Zerbo and The Fashion Law: https://www.thefashionlaw.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Fall 2026 Couture Awards: Dangerous Shoes, Hat Wars, and Wedding Dresses 13.07.2026 25min

  Veteran fashion journalist Dana Thomas returns for Fall 2026 couture awards! We talk about the hat wars at Dior, the wildest shoes, and the Chanel chicken bag that seems like it can't carry more than a pill or two. This is a teaser of a paid episode. Subscribe at Back Row (save three months on an annual subscription) to access paywalled podcasts AND all newsletter stories. For podcast access only, sign up in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 03:18 What "couture" actually means 08:08 Award: Most Viral Front Row Celebrity 10:49 Award: Best Front Row Celebrity 13:37 Award: Best Couture Handiwork 16:58 Award: Best Shoes 20:18 Award: Best Bags Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  13 Biggest Questions About Taylor Swift's Wedding 07.07.2026 1t 2min

  Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription to access paywalled podcasts and all newsletter stories. Taylor Swift married Travis Kelce at Madison Square Garden — and nobody's seen the photos yet. Will Vogue get them? Will anyone? Amy Odell is joined by veteran celebrity journalist Justin Ravitz (former Executive Editor at Us Weekly and Rolling Stone) to count down 13 burning questions about the wedding of the year — 13, of course, because it's Taylor's lucky number. From the Dior couture ceremony looks to the guest list chaos (Zadie Smith? Wayne Gretzky? No Kardashians?) to whether this whole thing might end up as a theatrical release, Amy and Justin go through it all. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:50 #13 – What did she get talked out of? 06:23 #12 – What did Travis Kelce wear? 10:52 #11 – How close were they with their guests, really? 22:08 #10 – What was in the guests' NDAs? 25:33 #9 – Who leaked the wedding photos? 28:19 #8 – Were there religious elements? Was Adam Sandler ordained? 30:45 #7 – Did anyone try to slip them a gift? 37:27 #6 – Were there brand or corporate sponsors? 38:59 #5 – What were her cats doing? 40:54 #4 – Whose idea was the TT logo? 42:22 #3 – What celebrities were invited and said no? 44:57 #2 – Who was deliberately not invited? 51:59 #1 – Will the wedding be a theatrical release? 58:47 Final thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  What 'Love Story' Got Wrong About Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK Jr.'s Final Days 06.07.2026 31min

  This is a teaser of a paid episode. To access the full episode, subscribe to Back Row at BackRow.net and get newsletter access included with your subscription. Or sign up in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. RoseMarie Terenzio and Liz McNeil — authors of ⁠JFK Jr.: An Intimate Oral Biography⁠ — return to the Back Row podcast in honor of Love Story's likely Emmy nominations. Terenzio assisted JFK Jr. at George magazine, and McNeil has covered him at People since the 90s, so they know what the show creators don't. We cover what we didn't get to last time: Daryl Hannah's bombshell New York Times op-ed, what the show got right and wrong about Carolyn Bessette's distress over the paparazzi, the plane crash, and whether Jack Schlossberg is the next JFK Jr. Chapters: 00:00 — Intro 04:00 — The actor who played JFK Jr. called RoseMarie 08:30 — Daryl Hannah's bombshell NYT op-ed 14:30 — The wedding: how reporters found out 23:30 — Was Carolyn really depressed and homebound? 28:00 — The plane crash: what actually happened Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  From Purses to... Pot?! 29.06.2026 44min

  ***SUPPORT THIS INDEPENDENT SHOW by subscribing to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription to access paywalled podcasts and all newsletter stories.*** Get 15 percent off Edie Parker with the code AMY15: https://edie-parker.com/ Brett Heyman launched Edie Parker as a luxury handbag business. Her acrylic clutches became a hit with Met Gala-going celebrities. Despite her success with accessories, she decided to pivot to a uniquely challenging industry: legal cannabis. She talks about what she learned working in Gucci PR during the Tom Ford era, why she entered the cannabis business, and the stigma she's still fighting. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 01:30 From Gucci PR to Founding Edie Parker 07:30 The Kate Hudson Met Gala Bag That Started It All 11:00 Why She Pivoted to Cannabis 13:00 Why You Have to Be Vertically Integrated in Every State 15:00 The Stripes That Are "Too Appealing to Children" 20:30 What Trump's Rescheduling Order Actually Changes 28:00 Celebrity Campaigns: Pat Cleveland, Gabby Windey, and More 35:30 Why No Institutional Investor Will Touch Cannabis 39:30 Did the Cannabis Pivot Scare Off Handbag Customers? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  How Plastic Surgery Went Off the Rails [TEASER] 22.06.2026 27min

  ***This is a TEASER of a paywalled episode. Sign up for a Premium subscription at Back Row (https://www.backrow.net/subscribe) for access to the Back Row newsletter and all paywalled podcasts. (Audio only subs available in Apple and Spotify.)*** As the founding editor of beauty magazine Allure, Linda Wells has seen it all, from the dawn of La Mer to the current age of plastic surgery overload. Now the editor of AirMail Look, she's been covering the craziest procedures, from rib-cracking and reshaping to $500k facelifts. She discusses how plastic surgery has gone completely off the rails — and where this wild trend is going. CHAPTERS: 01:15 – Beauty Trends of the 1980s 03:45 – The Wildest Trends in 2026 08:15 – The Growing Visibility of Plastic Surgery 15:05 – Why Surgeons Are Hunting for New Procedures 17:30 – The Sport of Celebrity Speculation 20:25 – Facelift Prices Are Up 400% 23:45 – The Risks of an International Operation 26:50 – Subscribe to Listen to the Full Episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Emergency Gwyneth Paltrow Pod! 17.06.2026 36min

  It started with turkey meatballs and ended with an endorsement deal that led the internet to call her "Gwynicide." Gwyneth Paltrow has had quite a slew of viral moments this month. I sat down with branding expert and sociologist Ana Andjelic — CMO, author of the Sociology of Business newsletter, and host of the Hitmakers podcast — to talk about what this means (if anything) for Brand Gwyneth. CHAPTERS: 00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – The Turkey Meatballs and the Arugula Meme 05:30 – Inside the Jade Egg Era of Goop 09:30 – The Trae Stephens Interview and the AI Weapons Controversy 18:00 – The 51 Park Israeli Real Estate Ad and the Backlash 21:00 – The Three Pillars of the Gwyneth Brand 24:30 – Is Goop Still Relevant? 26:00 – Why Goop Kitchen Is Struggling in New York 31:00 – Is Gwyneth an Asset or a Liability Now? 34:00 – Can Kinship Ventures Actually Succeed? 📰 SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Amy's Gwyneth book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Gwyneth/Amy-Odell/9781668005774 Follow Ana Andjelic: 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ana_andjelic/ ↳ Sociology of Business: https://andjelicaaa.substack.com/ 🎙️ Hitmakers podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3pmW3iyjF9pl65QgVcabPK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Your Clothes Are Full of Chemicals. Here's What You Need to Know. 15.06.2026 52min

  ***SUPPORT THIS INDEPENDENT SHOW by subscribing to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribeGo Premium and save three months on an annual subscription to access paywalled podcasts and all newsletter stories.*** Frances Solá-Santiago is a reporter for The New York Times's Wirecutter product review site, where her whole job is to test clothing and interview experts about how to find the best stuff for the best value. She's done extensive research into which chemicals sneak into our clothes — and what we, as consumers, need to know about them. In this episode, she reveals how we can shop consciously, some of her favorite picks for bags and clothes, and much more. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 01:30 How Wirecutter Actually Tests Clothes 06:00 Does Higher Price Mean Better Quality? 09:00 Vintage vs. New Coach Bags — What the Lab Found 10:00 Why Everyone Is Suddenly Worried About Their Clothes 12:00 PFAS Explained — What Forever Chemicals Are 16:00 Who's Most at Risk — You, Garment Workers, or the Planet? 21:30 Which Certifications Can You Actually Trust? 25:30 Health Washing Is the New Greenwashing 35:00 The Frankie Shop Blazer Test 39:30 Why Going 100% Natural Isn't a Guarantee 41:00 Where Regulation Is Headed 49:30 Is Dry Cleaning Safe? Follow Frances Solá-Santiago 📰 The Wirecutter (NYT) - https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/authors/frances-sola-santiago/ 📸 Follow Frances on Instagram: @fransolasantiago Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices