The Market Gardener Podcast

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  55: From Vegan To Animal Farmer: Why Animal Agriculture Matters For Health, Ecology & Climate | Abey Scaglione 13.08.2026 1h 59min

  In this episode, we sit down with Abey Scaglione, author of Radical Farm and farmer at Ruckle Heritage Farm in Salt Spring Island, BC, to explore the ecological, nutritional, and ethical case for well-sourced animal foods in our food system. We dive deep into Abey’s journey from being a low-fat vegetarian and Pilates instructor in Los Angeles to managing a holistic livestock farm in British Columbia, examining why so many former vegans evolve into supporting well-managed animal husbandry once they understand real food systems. Abey reflects on the emotional complexity of raising and harvesting livestock; she deconstructs common environmental arguments against meat; and she explains the relationship between the natural carbon cycle and rotational grazing practices. We explore Abey’s homesteading experiences, from calf-sharing with dairy cows and raw milk cheese-making to the benefits of mobile chicken tractors and mob grazing for soil fertility. Finally, we discuss the economics of small-farm profitability, the shift from self-sufficiency to community sufficiency, and how consumer choices ultimately drive change in our food system. Abey’s book Radical Farm: https://www.radicalfarmbook.com/ Timestamps [00:00] Intro[01:40] Radical Farm book.[03:45] The former vegan arc: Unpacking animal agriculture, ethics, and maturity in food choices.[12:05] Overcoming low-fat diet trends, disordered eating, and returning to traditional real foods.[21:04] Navigating the emotional complexity of farm life and slaughtering animals.[32:17] Regrowth, bale grazing, and debunking methane myths in ruminant agriculture.[53:40] Getting started with livestock: Poultry, rotational systems, and culling layers.[01:03:00] The realities of keeping a dairy cow, calf-sharing, and the case for raw milk.[01:29:30] Farm economics, land management, and shifting from self-sufficiency to community sufficiency.[01:39:36] Rapid-fire questions: Lessons on acceptance, Bruce Springsteen, and supporting pastured pork.SponsorsDubois Agrinovation: Get 10% off by choosing the promo code ‘MasterClass – Jean-Martin Fortier’ when you create an account. Some exceptions apply. https://duboisag.comLinks/ResourcesStart Your Market Gardener Journey Here http://themarketgardener.com/starthere/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5Newsletter: https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5Growers & Co: https://growers.co/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: https://themarketgardener.com?utm_medium=social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast-saison5Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksAbey Scaglione:Book: https://www.radicalfarmbook.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abeyonthefarm/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@abeyonthefarm Farm: https://rucklefarmsaltspringisland.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rucklefarm/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RuckleFarm# JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  54: How To Stop Fighting Nature & Grow A High-Yield Orchard | Permaculture Orchard Design with Stefan Sobkowiak 30.07.2026 2h 17min

  In this episode, we sit down with Stefan Sobkowiak, permaculture educator and renowned Youtuber at The Permaculture Orchard, to explore how to design and manage holistic, diverse agricultural ecosystems. We dive deep into his guiding philosophy that “nothing beats easy,” his background in wildlife biology, and the catastrophic tent caterpillar outbreak that transformed his conventional apple orchard into a biodiversity lab. Stefan deconstructs Bill Mollison’s three phases of abundance and introduces his innovative “grocery store” design concept, explaining how grouping companion trees by harvest date completely revolutionizes the pick-your-own farm experience. The conversation highlights the powerful ecological synergies of combining perennial fruit trees with nitrogen-fixing species, annual vegetables, and pastured poultry to naturally optimize soil fertility. Finally, we discuss his playful "magic model" for farm planning, his perspective on utilizing AI as a personalized learning tutor, and how his parent’s experience during World War II instilled in him the importance of food security, resilience, and human relationships. Timestamps [00:00] Intro [05:16] Reflecting on Diego Footer and the profound early community legacy of Permaculture Voices.[08:52] "Nothing beats easy" - Choosing crops based on what grows like a weed.[15:33] The side quest from wildlife biology to landscape architecture to building functional animal habitats.[20:51] Professor Caterpillar - Surviving a catastrophic monoculture harvest and shifting to permaculture design.[30:22] Simulating a volcano: Unlocking high-yielding soil dynamics through compost and basalt rock dust.[45:31] Bill Mollison’s blueprint: Replanting a diverse layout with nitrogen-fixing guilds.[56:07] Launching a low-cost nursery. [01:08:03] Deconstructing Mollison's three phases of abundance and tracking regional seed adaptations.[01:21:25] Seasonal taste cravings and how nutrient density triggers our instinctive diet.[01:42:10] Designing the "grocery store" layout to group crops by seasonal harvest dates.[02:05:1]1 Rapid Fire Q&A: Reading Sir Albert Howard, using AI as a tutor, and generational memory.SponsorsDubois Agrinovation: Get 10% off by choosing the promo code ‘MasterClass – Jean-Martin Fortier’ when you create an account. Some exceptions apply. https://duboisag.com/Links/ResourcesStart Your Market Gardener Journey Here : https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksStefan:Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/stefansobkowiak Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stefansobkowiak/ Website: https://miracle.farm/ Masterclass: https://permaculture.study/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  53: How To Make Any Soil Amazing With Cover Crops: Grow Your Own Fertility! | JM Fortier 16.07.2026 37min

  In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier reveals the ultimate secret weapon for healthy soil and high-yield market gardening: cover crops and green manures. While beginner market gardens often focus strictly on profitable cash crops, long-term farm sustainability and profitability depend on embedding cover crop systems directly into seasonal crop rotations.Jean-Martin explains how standard cover crops eliminate erosion by protecting bare winter soils, while legume-rich green manures supercharge on-farm fertility by injecting nitrogen and building massive subsoil root networks. He breaks down his practical, low-machinery techniques for terminating cover crops on permanent beds and you’ll discover how hitting the "golden ratio" of keeping one-third of your garden in cover crop at all times can drastically reduce external fertilizer inputs and unlock deep, long-term soil ecology.Timestamps [00:00] Intro and the importance of multiplying small, localized farms.[04:35] Why cover crops are the underutilized secret weapon of market gardening.[05:53] Two fundamental pillars for long-term farm success: Crop rotation and cover crop programs.[07:53] Protecting bare winter soils from leaching and weather degradation.[08:51] The difference between standard cover crops and legume-rich, nitrogen-fixing green manures.[11:18] How to schedule dynamic cover crop successions between your regular cash crops.[14:51] The "golden ratio": Keeping one-third of your garden in cover crops at all times.[17:43] Step-by-step technical guide to terminating cover crops using a flail mower.[19:09] Using a walk-behind rotary plow and silage tarps for rapid residue digestion.[26:09] Advanced strategies to supercharge growth: Pre-planting broadforking, seed inoculation, and tactical manure application.Dubois Agrinovation: Get 10% off by choosing the promo code ‘MasterClass – Jean-Martin Fortier’ when you create an account. Some exceptions apply. Gloco: Biodiversity, without compromise.Ecocert: Working towards a sustainable world. Links/ResourcesStart Your Market Gardener Journey Here : https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksJM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  52: Why We Should Be Feeding Ourselves With TREES: Nuts, Forests, And The Future Of Food | Elspeth Hay 02.07.2026 1h 58min

  In this episode, we sit down with Elspeth Hay, Cape Cod journalist and author of Feed Us with Trees, to explore how we can solve our collective separation from nature through the power of tree crops. We dive deep into her journey from learning the “no farms, no food” mantra in childhood to the paradigm-shifting realization that our surrounding forests are actually overflowing with staple foods like acorns. Elspeth deconstructs historical narratives like the term "hunter-gatherer" and the concept of "enclosure," arguing that modern industrial farming models were built upon a violent legacy of privatizing land and erasing highly managed indigenous food systems. The conversation highlights how traditional communities managed ecological resources collectively through the "Commons" and specific cultural rituals. Finally, we discuss how local communities can reverse the "shifting baseline syndrome," her advice on cultivating ecological joy and rituals for the next generation, and her vision of a future rooted in regional food resilience and connection to community and place. Elspeth’s book, Feed Us with Trees: https://newsociety.com/book/feed-us-with-trees Timestamps [00:00] Intro - Acorns are a human food![03:09] Reflecting on a childhood feeling of being separate from the natural world.[10:51] Deconstructing the term "hunter-gatherer" and rethinking evolutionary food stories.[12:22] Learning about traditional indigenous forest management and the sophisticated uses of cultural fire.[19:56] Explaining the violent legacy of the historical "enclosure" movement and land privatization.[34:40] Analyzing how the intentional destruction of indigenous food systems won historical wars.[45:32] Parallels between changing Cape Cod fisheries and regional nut co-op resilience networks.[49:57] Replacing the concept of "nature" with the "living world" through the lens of fire-dependent Oak Savannas.[59:26] Exploring the deeply embedded concept of the Commons versus modern private property.[1:10:09] Painting a picture of a thriving utopian future driven by rural ecosystem tending and food networks.[1:19:31] The technical mechanics of processing water-soluble bitter tannins for acorn flour and oils.[1:44:52] Rapid-fire questions on formative books, career advice, empathy, and weaving willow basketsSponsorsDubois Agrinovation: Get 10% off by choosing the promo code ‘MasterClass – Jean-Martin Fortier’ when you create an account. Some exceptions apply. https://duboisag.com/New Society Publishing: Use code market25 for 25% off all books. https://newsociety.comStart Your Market Gardener Journey Here: https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Links/ResourcesStart Your Market Gardener Journey Here : https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksElspeth Hay:Book: https://newsociety.com/book/feed-us-with-trees Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elspethhay JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  51: How This Alaskan Farmer Makes 85K On JUST Storage Crops (With 49% NET!) | Sam Knapp 18.06.2026 2h 5min

  In this episode, we sit down with Sam Knapp, an Alaskan grower and author of Beyond the Root Cellar, to explore what it means to solve the biggest gaping hole in the local food system: winter food security. We dive deep into his journey from chemical engineering and a formative Fulbright grant in Sweden to establishing a successful, low-overhead storage crop farm in Fairbanks, Alaska. We highlight how Sam built a highly viable business on 1 acre by focusing on low-maintenance root crops like parsnips and utilizing efficient, manual systems instead of heavy machinery. Sam breaks down the structural design of his self-built cold storage facility, tips for managing humidity with Inkbird sensors and thermostats, and the reality of fighting thermal mass in the ground. Finally, we discuss how local growers can build predictable, highly profitable “off-season” revenue, his advice on avoiding the "YouTube Academy" trap by finding mentors, and his ultimate mission to democratize cold storage for local communities.Sam’s book: Beyond The Root CellarTimestamps [00:00] Intro.[03:34] Shifting local foods from a summer novelty to reliable winter staples.[07:47] Pivoting from a PhD engineering track to an intense physical farm season in Sweden.[17:43] Arriving in Fairbanks and integrating into a resilient community of transplants.[25:03] Operating an off-grid farm through extreme sub-zero winter temperatures.[36:19] Designing a low-maintenance, part-time farm layout to balance summer field research.[46:13] Breaking down the real economics, gross revenues, and net profits of a 1 acre farm.[55:04] Debunking tractor dependency and utilizing manual tools for market gardening.[01:00:22] Structural mechanics of modern root cellars vs. traditional root cellars.[01:23:46] Utilizing residential cooling units and custom micro-environments to preserve crops cleanly.[01:47:47] Rapid fire Q&A, books, fitness and wellness, and traditional dance.SponsorsDubois Agrinovation: Get 10% off by choosing the promo code ‘MasterClass – Jean-Martin Fortier’ when you create an account. Some exceptions apply. https://duboisag.com/Johnny’s Selected Seeds: Sign up for Johnny’s newsletter to receive the latest news, products, and more. New members get $10 off their next order of $50 or more!http://www.johnnyseeds.com/Start Your Market Gardener Journey Here: https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Links/ResourcesStart Your Market Gardener Journey Here : https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksSam Knapp:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/offbeetalaska/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  50: Why This Top New York Chef Is Dreaming Of Farming | Caroline Hahm 04.06.2026 2h 13min

  In this heartfelt episode, we sit down with Caroline Hahm, chef at Di An DI restaurant in Brooklyn NY, to explore the beautiful intersection of professional kitchens and sustainable farming. We dive into her journey from leaving Cornell to working in fashion, and explore how the documentary Food Inc. and her grandmother’s garden entirely reshaped her worldview. Caroline shares her tumultuous journey of learning her craft from scratch, discovering farming along the way, and how she ultimately ended up as a culinary leader. She breaks down the economic realities of sourcing ethically for Asian cuisine, paying farmers full price, and subverting toxic kitchen cultures through mindful leadership. Finally, we discuss her guiding mission to live a life of service and her dream of building a hospitality space tied directly to its own market garden. Timestamps [00:00] Intro.[02:08] Reflecting on dinner at the Old Mill.[08:12] Suburban childhood mentalities and shifting views on gardening.[14:51] Leaving university to pursue volunteer work and experiencing true poverty.[22:05] Transitioning into the fashion industry before Food Inc. changed everything.[27:42] Tending soil later in life and reconnecting with traditional Korean side dishes.[36:56] Volunteering at a rooftop farm and getting an unexpected start as a line cook.[44:06] Reflecting on the intense physical toll and toxic culture of professional kitchens.[51:34] Training under a wild Quebecois mentor and discovering new flavor pairings.[01:05:44] Pursuing nose-to-tail butchery, urban farming, and handling intense press reviews.[01:34:21] Analyzing the economic realities and structural underpricing of ethnic cuisines.[01:50:36] Rapid fire questions on leadership, work habits, and processing grief.Sponsors: Dubois Agrinovation: Get 10% off by choosing the promo code ‘MasterClass – Jean-Martin Fortier’ when you create an account. Some exceptions apply. https://duboisag.com/Start Your Market Gardener Journey Here: https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Links/ResourcesStart Your Market Gardener Journey Here : https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksCaroline Hahm:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carolinehahm/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diandi.nyc/Website: https://www.diandi.nyc/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  49: Is Social Media Over Romanticizing Farming? (Or Is That Actually A Good Thing?) | Jessica Paige @Jessithefarmer 21.05.2026 1h 39min

  In this episode, Jean-Martin and Chris sit down with Jessica Paige of Adama Farm to discuss her journey from university student to first-generation regenerative farmer and influencer. Jessica explores the importance of "romanticizing" farm life, explaining how finding beauty in the intensive labor makes the work more enjoyable and sustainable, and how sharing this beauty online can inspire new young people to get into farming. She reflects on her formative apprenticeship at Frith Farm, her spiritual awakening through nature, and the empowerment of leading an all-female crew. The conversation covers the practicalities of starting a farm, from land acquisition to navigating the "year two and three" hurdles of infrastructure and irrigation. Ultimately, she highlights how a small-scale farm can become a vibrant community hub through farm-to-table dinners and shared connection to the land. SponsorsDubois Agrinovation:  https://duboisag.com/Growers & Co: https://growers.coTimestamps[01:30] The viral accident: Meet ‘Jessithefarmer’ from Adama Farm[02:20] Survival by magic: Why you must romanticize intensive labor[06:05] Rewriting the rules: Inside an intentional, all-female farm crew[11:38] How a university thesis sparked an unexpected spiritual awakening[16:00] From rejection to fate: The last-minute message that changed everything[28:03] Turnkey destiny: Stumbling onto a hidden 73-acre paradise by pure chance[35:12] Scorched fields and high tunnels: Navigating the chaotic trials of season one[01:07:27] Reverse nostalgia and building a community village around the long table[01:19:21] The 5-year vision: Reverse-engineering an event empire on just two acres[01:24:50] Rapid fire Q&A: Books, farm fashion, and why you can't "skip the suck"Links/ResourcesStart Your Market Gardener Journey Here : https://themarketgardener.com/starthere/Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksJessica Paige:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessithefarmer Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jessithefarmer Website: https://adamafarm.co/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  48: Eating Seasonally & Local: Why It Matters More Than Ever | JM Fortier 09.04.2026 45min

  In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier celebrates his 48th birthday by reflecting on his 24-year journey as a market gardener. He revisits the foundational influence of Eliot Coleman’s The New Organic Grower, emphasizing how the "agricultural craftsmanship" of small-scale farming offers a meaningful alternative to industrial food production. The core of the episode outlines three guiding "North Stars" for the movement: reclaiming the integrity of the organic label, strengthening local food sheds to keep money in the community, and embracing seasonality as a social value. Jean-Martin argues that eating in-season from local greenhouses and root cellars creates a "good food revolution" that is impossible for industrial systems to replicate. He concludes by calling on farmers to stay rooted in their communities and fight for a food system defined by proximity, ecology, and joy.Timestamps [0:00] Intro[04:18] Birthday reflections: 24 years of hustling, dreaming, and the "Good Food Revolution"[06:33] Current projects: Research at FQT farm and the Old Mill garden[08:58] Returning to the source: The enduring influence of Eliot Coleman’s The New Organic Grower[12:24] Trends in the movement: From the pressure to scale up to mastering the small-scale model[14:10] Agricultural Craftsmanship: Why growing food is a practice of presence, not industry[19:43] North Star #1: Reclaiming "Organic" and fighting off the dilution of the label[27:32] North Star #2: The power of locality and keeping wealth within the community[33:21] North Star #3: Seasonality as a tool for health, ethics, and community celebration[41:27] Summary: Building a future of proximity, ecology, and back-to-basics joy SponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.Thinkific: Built for the Business of Learning.Activevista: Specialised Tools and Seeds for Diversified Crop and Home GrowersLinks/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksJM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  47: Celebrity Chef Chuck Hughes On The Return Of Real Food: Why Great Chefs Are Going Back To The Farm 26.03.2026 2h 9min

  In this episode, Jean-Martin and Chris sit down with chef, restaurateur, and TV personality Chuck Hughes to explore his journey from the intense, rebellious kitchen culture of his early career to a more grounded life focused on family, purpose, and simplicity. He reflects on the evolution of food culture, emphasizing a return to local ingredients, authenticity, and respect for farmers. Chuck also opens up about the realities of restaurant life, leadership, and overcoming alcohol addiction, offering a candid look behind the scenes of the industry. Through his experiences in television and Indigenous communities across Canada, he highlights the deep connection between food, land, and tradition. Ultimately, the conversation centers on finding balance, staying true to what matters, and redefining success beyond fame and hustle.Timestamps [02:15] Meet Chuck Hughes: chef, restaurateur, and TV personality[06:40] Early kitchen culture and the party lifestyle[11:25] Building a restaurant that stands the test of time[17:10] The evolution of food trends and cooking styles[23:45] From TV fame to real-life responsibilities[30:20] Becoming a father and redefining priorities[36:55] Leadership in the kitchen and team dynamics[43:10] Addiction, pressure, and the realities behind the scenes[50:35] Reconnecting with local food and farmers[58:20] The economics of restaurants and rising costs[01:05:10] Why good food starts with good sourcing[01:12:45] Balancing creativity with consistency in the kitchen[01:20:30] Mentorship and training the next generation of chefs[01:29:10] The role of media in shaping food culture[01:38:25] Challenges of scaling restaurants and staying authentic[01:47:50] Lessons learned from years in the industry[01:56:15] Rapid fire: advice, favorite meals, and final thoughtsSponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.Thinkific: Built for the Business of Learning.Felco:  Get 10% off your next purchase with the code MARKET10.Links/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksChuck Hughes:Website: https://www.chuckhughes.ca/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chefchuckhughes TV Show: https://chuckfirstpeopleskitchen.com/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ChuckHughesOfficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChefChuckHughes/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 
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  46: Can 'Organic' Food Be Trusted Anymore? The Fight For The Integrity Of Organic Farming | Linley Dixon 12.03.2026 2h 5min

  In this episode, Jean-Martin and Chris sit down with Linley Dixon, co-director of the Real Organic Project and a farmer/soil scientist, for a deep conversation about the future of organic agriculture. Linley shares how corporate interests, hydroponic systems, and regulatory loopholes are reshaping the meaning of “organic,” and why many farmers are working to protect the integrity of the label. The discussion explores the tensions between small farms and industrial-scale organic production, the economic realities farmers face, and why grassroots action may be the most powerful path forward. Along the way, the conversation dives into soil health, common myths around no-till and regenerative practices, and the science behind resilient farming systems. Timestamps[02:37] Meet Linley Dixon (Real Organic Project)[07:56] The hidden problems inside the organic industry[10:25] Hydroponic systems vs soil-grown organic farming[15:23] From scientist to farmer: Linley Dixon’s journey[20:14] The origin of the Real Organic Project[31:31] Why farmers are joining the Real Organic certification movement[37:10] The real cost of food: Why organic seems expensive[41:16] Corporate consolidation and power in the food system[45:25] Market saturation and the challenge for new small farms[48:11] Industrial “organic” eggs and certification loopholes[56:42] Building a farmer-led movement to protect organic[01:07:24] Organic certification: Does the label still matter?[01:17:37] Inside Linley’s greenhouse system (high-yield tomato production)[01:31:03] Soil science explained: Mycorrhizae, tillage, and no-till myths[01:47:37] Local food vs global food systems[01:53:53] Rapid fire: books, advice, and lessons from farmingSponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.https://realorganicproject.org/Tunnel Vision Hoops: Request a custom quote!http://tunnelvisionhoops.com | 833-886-6351Activevista: Specialised Tools and Seeds for Diversified Crop and Home Growershttps://www.activevista.com.au/ Links/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksLinley Dixon: Website: https://realorganicproject.org/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realorganicproject/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adobehousefarm JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  45: Raising Livestock The Ethical Way: Lessons On Life & Death On The Farm | Tara Couture 26.02.2026 2h 5min

  In this episode, we sit down with Tara Couture, author of Radiance of the Ordinary, to explore how her farming journey has reshaped her understanding of life, death, and what it means to live with reverence. From raising and harvesting animals with deep care to questioning industrial food systems, Tara speaks about the sacred responsibility of participating directly in the cycles that feed us. Rather than speaking of “healing,” she embraces the coexistence of joy and sorrow, and the quiet hope found in small, radiant moments. We also discuss writing as a clarifying practice, the limits of social media, and the importance of real human connection. Above all, this conversation is a reminder that beauty and meaning are often found in the most ordinary parts of life.Tara's book: Radiance of the OrdinaryTimestamps[2:40] Discovering Radiance of the Ordinary and returning to the land after a fractured childhood.[7:20] From vegetarianism to sacred harvest: learning from a cattleman mentor and rethinking death.[14:50] The moral weight of killing animals and the responsibility of humane, on-farm slaughter.[20:45] Death as a teacher: how mortality deepens presence and gratitude for ordinary moments.[24:00] Writing as clarity: Substack, storytelling, and resisting the noise of social media.[39:30] Grief and the calves: losing a daughter and being gently tethered back to life.[55:05] Industrial abattoirs, ethics of meat, and why participation matters.[1:08:10] Beauty, craftsmanship, and creating spaces that feel alive and rooted in place.[1:25:15] Homesteading online: comparison, illusion, and the cost of digital validation.[1:47:30] Rapid fire Q&ASponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.Felco:  Get 10% off your next purchase with the code MARKET10.Links/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksTara Couture: Website: https://www.slowdownfarmstead.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/slowdownfarmstead/?hl=en Substack: https://www.slowdownfarmstead.com/    JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  44: When Farming Is Hard: Burnout, Doubt, and Why Our Farms Matter | JM Fortier 12.02.2026 55min

  In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier reflects on the emotional and ethical dimensions of small-scale farming, especially in the quieter months after a demanding season. He shares why the growing season often requires farmers to simply push through challenges, and why the off-season is the right time to revisit what was hard, both practically and emotionally. Drawing from personal experience, he explores burnout, resilience, and the importance of rest, reflection, and continuous improvement. The episode then turns toward the ethics of local agriculture and the role of human-scale, decentralized food systems in shaping a more resilient future. Jean-Martin closes by revisiting the original vision behind The Market Gardener and why farming remains a meaningful act of commitment to ecology, community, and lifestyle.Timestamps[5:12] A personal encounter that reveals burnout behind meaningful food system work.[9:05] Finishing the season exhausted, uncertain, and emotionally spent.[12:10] Why the off-season is the right moment to revisit what was hard.[17:50] Learning to live with hardship, money stress, and long-term resilience.[26:20] Shifting into winter mode and reflecting on the ethics of local agriculture.[32:05] Books and thinkers that shaped Jean-Martin’s views on local and human-scale farming.[44:55] Revisiting the conclusion of The Market Gardener and closing reflections.SponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.Activevista: Specialized Tools and Seeds for Diversified Crop and Home GrowersTunnel Vision Hoops: Request a custom quote!tunnelvisionhoops.com | 833-886-6351Market Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today!Links/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksJM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 
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  43: The Epic Story Of Regenerative Agriculture In Patagonia: Small Farms Big Wilderness | Francisco Vio 29.01.2026 1h 33min

  In this episode, we sit down with Francisco Vio of ‘Huerto Cuatro Estaciones’ farm in Chile, to explore the wild world of living and farming in remote Patagonia. From early mentors in Ecuador to building an organic farm at the edge of the world, Francisco shares how beauty, land stewardship, and community have shaped his choices. The conversation weaves together farming, conservation, and the influence of figures like Doug Tompkins who helped create some of the world’s largest protected wilderness areas. Francisco reflects on how small-scale market gardening fits in to the vision and context of national parks and he reminds us that farming is not just a business, but a way of life; a beautiful way of life.Timestamps[6:45] A life-changing stay on an organic farm in Ecuador and the role of early mentors.[12:40] Discovering small-scale organic farming and the search for a meaningful way of life.[18:05] Doug Tompkins, conservation, and the creation of national parks in Patagonia.[26:30] Choosing to farm in extreme isolation and what it demands on a daily basis.[33:20] Living far from markets: logistics, importing tools, and building local solutions.[40:15] Farming as a cultural act: beauty, place, and community beyond productivity.[48:10] Why staying small matters and resisting the pressure to scale at all costs.[55:30] Learning from global farm visits and the value of traveling to stay inspired.[1:03:40] Parenthood, responsibility, and redefining success as a farmer.[1:11:55] Failure, long-term vision, and committing fully to a chosen path.[1:13:28] Rapid fire Q&A: books, advice to young farmers, food, and pivotal life decisions.SponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.Activevista: Specialised Tools and Seeds for Diversified Crop and Home GrowersMarket Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today!Links/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksFrancisco Vio:Website: https://huertocuatroestaciones.clInstagram: https://instagram.com/huertocuatroestaciones Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/huertocuatroestaciones Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@huertocuatroestaciones5844 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/105164245 JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  42: $120K with Less Than a Quarter Acre: Rootbound Farm’s Unique Suburban Farm Business Model | Woody DeLauder 15.01.2026 1h 58min

  In this episode, we sit down with Woody DeLauder, founder of Rootbound Farms, a small but highly productive suburban farm based in Southern Maryland. Woody shares how he transformed his suburban lawn into a thriving, human-powered market garden that generates over $100K annually, with the help of his secret best-seller: handmade soap, all while navigating zoning restrictions, skeptical neighbors, and the realities of farming in a residential neighborhood. We explore Woody’s journey from being a fourth and fifth grade teacher to becoming a full-time grower and entrepreneur, and how growing food in his front yard became a catalyst for rebuilding community in the suburbs. Woody reflects on the cultural challenges of suburban life, the loss of shared spaces, and how food production can reconnect neighbors through visibility, conversation, and generosity. Rootbound Farms: https://www.rootboundfarms.com/ Timestamps[0:00] Intro[3:40] The good, the bad, and the ugly of social media [7:30] What’s broken in modern suburbia and the idea of “living room kids”[13:00] Turning lawns into gardens and rethinking suburban norms[19:30] Front-yard farming, neighbor resistance, and zoning challenges[27:15] Building community through visibility, food, and conversation[35:30] From teacher to farmer: changing careers and redefining success[43:00] Farm economics: small footprint, low overhead, and real revenue[52:30] Influences from Curtis Stone, Eliot Coleman, and small-scale pioneers[1:01:00] Social media, virality, and the cost of visibility[1:23:40] Seasonality, local food culture, and rebuilding appreciation for real food[1:29:00] Long-term vision: education, community farms, and inclusive spaces[1:44:50] Rapid Fire Q&A: books, advice, influences, and staying smallSponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.Johnny’s Selected Seeds: Sign up for Johnny’s newsletter to receive the latest news, products, and more. New members get $10 off their next order of $50 or more!Market Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today!Links/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksRootbound Farms:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rootboundfarms/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OurRootboundLifeTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rootboundfarms?_t=8h03SuFkTBD&_r=1Website: https://www.rootboundfarms.com/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 
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  41: Meet Japan’s Most Famous Farmer Supplying Asia’s Top Restaurants | Yuzuru Kajiya 11.12.2025 1h 51min

  In this episode, we sit down with Yuzuru Kajiya, a famous farmer from Japan who supplies top-tier, three-star Michelin restaurants across Japan and Asia. Yuzuru shares his journey from touring elite French restaurants in his youth to starting his own farm focused on growing unique, exotic, and high-quality produce, a contrast to traditional Japanese farming. We explore Japanese culture and how values like craftsmanship and perfection translate into his farm and the restaurants he works with, and how Japan’s uniquely low land cost is failing to attract new young farmers. Yuzuru also reflects on how his Canadian education in horticulture and exposure to Western culture shaped his mindset, enabling him to succeed by adopting new methods and focusing on the culinary farmer niche.Consider this episode your gateway into Japanese farm and food culture; we’re sure you’ll find it as interesting as we did!Kajiya Farm: https://kajiyafarm.jp/ Timestamps[0:00] Intro[8:00] Yuzuru’s farming education and youth in Canada[10:18] Touring 3-Star Michelin restaurants around the world[13:15] Discovering unique farmers in Europe and Asafumi Yamashita’s influence[24:18] Yuzuru’s strategy to focus on unique, exotic crops and direct sales to chefs[27:31] The taste-test trip to Paris to gain confidence and connections[30:42] Business explodes with the launch of the Michelin Tokyo guide[32:01] Finding and training the right workforce[43:24] Japan's changing economy and the farming landscape[53:51] Japanese small tools and market gardening techniques[1:00:44] High-value specialty crops, edible flowers, and foraging[1:18:41] Japan’s incredible shipping system[1:33:53] Rapid Fire Q&A: One-Straw Revolution, Personal Advice, and SnowboardingSponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.Market Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today!Links/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksYuzuru Kajiya:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kajiyafarm/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kajiyafarm/ Website: https://kajiyafarm.jp/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 
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  40: Farming in the Land of Walmarts and McDonalds: A New Jersey Reality Check | Chris Adams 27.11.2025 1h 46min

  In this episode, we sit down with Chris Adams, New Jersey grower and founder of Eastbound Acres, to explore what it really means to be a small-scale farmer in the most densely populated state in the United States. We dive deep into the challenges of farming in a landscape dominated by suburban sprawl, fast-food chains, and skyrocketing land prices, and we explore Chris’s mission to rebuild local food awareness in a place where agriculture has all but disappeared from daily life. Chris breaks down how he built multiple farms over 13 years; why sales, not production, remain the biggest barrier for growers in his region; and how he’s using tools like Local Line, CSA credit systems, and ultra-efficient market gardening practices to build a viable business on under half an acre.Learn more about Chris’s work at Eastbound Acres: https://eastboundacres.com/Timestamps[2:15] Farming in a densely populated and developed area.[3:29] The need for agriculture education and awareness in New Jersey.[9:57] Historical context of farmland loss in New Jersey due to urban sprawl.[12:23] Chris's journey to farming: from soil science to starting a farm from a class project.[15:20] "Food Inc." documentary as a catalyst for change.[16:58] Evolution of the farm model: transitioning from tractor-oriented to super-small market garden style.[23:00] Achieving high efficiency and streamlining labor (working three hours a week on a half-acre).[27:01] The difficulty of sales and marketing in a densely populated area and the problem with fake farm markets.[30:02] Using local line software for sales, forecasting, and streamlining the business.[41:17] Juggling the farm with a main business and the importance of setting hard boundaries.[1:28:24] Rapid fire Q&A (books, advice, failures, and the link between wrestling and farming discipline)SponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.Market Gardener Institute: Join the Masterclass waiting list today!Links/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksChris Adams:Website: https://www.eastboundacres.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eastboundacres Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089652433399LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-adams-a9b451382/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  39: The Business Side of Farming: Lessons from The Farmer’s Office | Julia Shanks 13.11.2025 1h 57min

  In this episode, we sit down with Julia Shanks, consultant, teacher, and author of The Farmer’s Office, to talk about the crucial role of business acumen in small-scale farming. We dive deep into financial management practices, routine bookkeeping, using QuickBooks, and how to properly deal with debt as a small farm business owner. Julia stresses that farmers are entrepreneurs who must understand their numbers, especially profit, not just revenue, to create sustainable, fulfilling farms. You’ll get loads of actionable advice, relatable stories, and examples of small farm owners who are financially successful and happy. Learn more about Julia’s books, courses, and more at The Farmer’s OfficeTimestamps[2:47] Contrast of business savvy farmers vs. those who ignore their numbers[6:00] Why frequent financial tracking and setting profit goals are essential. [19:38] Julia's journey from aviation and culinary arts to farm financial consultant.[28:10] Advice for new farmers: starting with a clear desired take-home income. [32:14] Navigating cyclical cash flow and the challenge of building a financial runway. [44:28] Deciding what to grow: prioritizing personal goals over sheer lucrativeness.[1:05:15] Strategies for managing debt stress and scenario planning for investments. [1:10:00] The business pivot: how frequent financial checks enable rapid course correction. [1:26:14] Calculating cost of production (e.g., for a tomato) and factoring in labor. [1:43:23] Rapid Fire Q&ALinks Julia mentionedHow to track POS sales in QuickBooks: https://youtu.be/lZKEdZSXHSA?si=piT11k_9jCbF_7aeUpcoming Excel Templates workshop:www.thefarmersoffice.com/excel Free webinar: How to Grow Your Farm Business: More Profits (Not More Production).https://thefarmersoffice.com/freewebinar/ Quickbooks 7-Day Challenge: https://thefarmersoffice.com/qbo-7day/ SponsorsReal Organic Project: Get Involved. Get Certified. Join the movement to fight the co-opting of organic.New Society Publishing: Use code market25 for 25% off all booksLinks/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksJulia Shanks:Website: https://thefarmersoffice.com/ Book: https://newsociety.com/book/the-farmers-office-second-editionInstagram: https://instagram.com/TheFarmersOffice Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheFarmersOffice JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 
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  38: Small-Scale Farming Is The Coolest Counterculture Of Our Time 18.09.2025 46min

  In this heartfelt solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier reflects on the idea that small-scale farming is the true counterculture of today; a colorful, creative, and deeply rooted way of life that stands in contrast to mainstream consumerism and the obsession with wealth. He explores three key pillars: culture, diversity, and resiliency, highlighting how small farms foster biodiversity, preserve tradition, and offer an authentic alternative to homogenized food systems. Jean-Martin shares his personal journey and observations from farms around the world, emphasizing that these local, human-scale farms are not only feeding communities but also nurturing ecosystems. This is an uplifting, passionate tribute to the global movement of growers fighting back with resilience, creativity, and community.Timestamps[0:00] When did it become cool to get rich? Reflections on what “being cool” used to mean.[4:31] Why small-scale farming is the ultimate counterculture today.[8:06] Farms as colorful, original spaces that resist mainstream homogenization.[13:05] The farm as a lifestyle: freedom, connection, and shared struggle.[21:39] Rediscovering crate art and the creativity of early 20th-century farms.[23:11] Diversity in farming and why it's essential to human health and culture.[34:07] Small farms as key players in restoring biodiversity and rewilding.[39:28] Scaling out, not up: how a network of small farms builds resiliency and food sovereignty.SponsorsTessier: Use promo code MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase for the Eastern North American regions https://info.serres-guytessier.com/en/tessier-mgi10?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Tessier+MGI+podcastLinks/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  37: Richard Perkins | The Art Of The Small Mixed Regenerative Farm 04.09.2025 2h 7min

  In this episode, we speak with Richard Perkins, farmer & educator at Ridgedale Permaculture, and author of Regenerative Agriculture, about the deeper layers of farming, culture, and meaning. Richard shares the story behind his decision to open a historic restaurant, Sillegarden, in rural Sweden as a way to reconnect people to place, food, and each other. He reflects on the role of farmers as community builders, the dangers of seed oils and grain-based diets, and why he’s more interested in soil-building than buzzwords. The conversation dives into mentorship, the mental and emotional toll of farm life, and the joy of doing hard things with people you care about. The episode wraps with a rapid-fire Q&A touching on wild food, trauma, nutrient density, and the classic farming book he's updating for a new generation of land stewards.Sillegarden Restaurant: https://www.sillegarden.com/ Timestamps[2:14] The role of chefs and the fitness industry in changing the food system.[10:13] Richard’s journey into farming, from working in the UK to settling in Sweden.[13:07] Ridgedale Farm's functions: being a profitable farm and a learning platform for new farmers.[16:08] The role of YouTube and social media in Richard's work and documenting his journey.[29:21] The origin story of the Sillegarden restaurant and Richard's goal to create cultural experiences.[44:39] The importance of local, seasonal food and the value of old-fashioned farming methods.[1:00:44] Diet and health journey, animal-based eating and avoiding seed oils, sugar, and unfermented grains.[1:17:30] The co-opting of the word "regenerative" by big agriculture and Richard's perspective on the term.[1:24:10] P.A. Yeomans's keyline design and scale of permanence on farm planning.[1:35:30] REKO Rings model: an efficient, community-driven sales and marketing system for local food.[1:54:42] Rapid Fire: Quick questions on books, advice, and personal experiences.SponsorsTessier: Use promo code MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase for the Eastern North American regions https://info.serres-guytessier.com/en/tessier-mgi10?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Tessier+MGI+podcastLinks/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksRichard Perkins: Website: https://www.richardperkins.co/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@regenerativeagriculture Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/richardperkins.co/?hl=en Ridgedale Farm website: https://www.ridgedalepermaculture.com/ JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier
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  36: Balancing Motherhood & Farming At The Raddest Farm Around | Jaymie Thurler of Rutabaga Ranch 21.08.2025 2h 6min

  In this episode we sit down with Jaymie Thurler of Rutabaga Ranch, whose colorful “punk rock” style meets old-school farming roots and new motherhood. Jaymie shares her journey of taking over a “left for dead” property and turning it into a beautiful thriving market garden, right in the community where she and her husband grew up. She details how her farm's success is tied to key initiatives, including a self-serve farm stand that is open seven days a week and a woodchip boiler system that heats their greenhouses for early tomato production. Jaymie reflects on raising a baby on the farm, both the joys and challenges, and how it has reshaped both her life and her leadership. Throughout, themes of community, culture, heritage, and family are highlighted in this wide-ranging and delightful conversation.Timestamps[4:11] “New rurals” vs “old school” conventional farmers[10:04] Story of Rutabaga Ranch and acquiring the farmhouse[12:12] Interconnectedness of rural life and relying on neighbors[17:25] Farm overview[20:10] The joy of working with family and building a lasting legacy[24:25] Unexpected community support for the farm stand [28:51] Self-serve farm stand breakdown [33:41] Innovative waste-wood heating system[55:08] Using “waste material” and the ecological benefits of wood chips[1:04:31] The importance of showing that farming can be fun and not “miserable”[1:10:15] Balancing a profitable farm with motherhood and quality of life[1:22:35] Profitability of early tomatoes and their role in the farm’s income[1:32:57] Is participating in local agricultural fairs “punk rock”?[1:39:44] How Jaymie got into market gardening[1:53:58] Rapid-fire Q&A including book recommendations, advice, and failuresSponsorsTessier: Use promo code MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase for the Eastern North American regions https://info.serres-guytessier.com/en/tessier-mgi10?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Tessier+MGI+podcastLinks/ResourcesMarket Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletterBlog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog Books: https://themarketgardener.com/booksGrowers & Co: https://growers.coHeirloom: https://heirloom.ag/The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/Follow UsWebsite: http://themarketgardener.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners Guest Social Media LinksJaymie Thurler: Website: https://rutabaga-ranch.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rutabagaranch/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rutabagaranch JM:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortierFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier