Intersectionality Matters!
African American Policy Forum
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Intersectionality Matters! is a podcast hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw, an American civil rights advocate and a leading scholar of critical race theory. The show explores the concept of intersectionality and its relevance to contemporary social justice issues. Each episode features conversations with activists, scholars, and artists who examine how overlapping systems of power and oppression shape our world. The podcast aims to deepen understanding of intersectionality and inspire action toward a more just society.
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80. Whose America? Whose Story? 03.07.2026 33mntAmerica turns 250—the momentous milestone comes to us cloaked in surreality. Anniversaries usually ask us to remember. This one asks whether we are willing to remember everything. This episode explores why, after two and a half centuries, our national narrative still clings to the anti-Blackness embedded in the nation’s founding, all while insisting that this bleak history no longer deserves our attention. How do we commemorate a republic built by people whose lives, labor, knowledge, and testimony are continually erased from the stories we tell about America? Host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by Sarah Lewis, Clint Smith, Mark Rosenbaum, and Ibram X Kendi. Music by Blue Dot Sessions Connect with us: Donate to our show Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Order Kimberlé Crenshaw's book, Backtalker: An American Memoir
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79. Introducing Backtalker: an American Memoir 05.05.2026 58mntHost Kimberlé Crenshaw and celebrated legal professor Cheryl Harris discuss the creative process and anticipated release of Crenshaw's latest book, Backtalker: An American Memoir. Crenshaw’s memoir traces the way her lived experience made her see things others didn’t. It chronicles the earliest moments she starts to talk back, and the journeys that backtalking has taken Crenshaw on throughout her life. Music courtesy of Blue Dot Sessions. Connect with us: Donate to our show Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Order Kimberlé Crenshaw's book, Backtalker: An American Memoir Register for Backtalkers Academy, running throughout Spring/Summer 2026 Check out UCLA Law Review's podcast
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78. Misogynoir, Basketball, and the Art of Accountability 11.04.2026 58mntHost Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by award-winning radio host Dr. Kaye Wise Whitehead and playwright and feminist activist V (formerly Eve Ensler), author of The Apology. Together they discuss the 2026 NCAA Women's Final Four game, where coach Geno Auriemma aggressively confronted Coach Don Staley after she led her team to victory against his. They discuss the mysogynoir of this moment, the insufficient apologies that followed, and what genuine accountability requires. Music by Blue Dot Sessions. Clips in this episode from: ESPN Connect with us: Donate to our show Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Order Kimberlé Crenshaw's book, Backtalker: An American Memoir Register for Backtalkers Academy, running throughout Spring/Summer 2026
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77. Heroes, Harm and History: Chavez's Legacy and Women's History Month 31.03.2026 41mntOn Cesar Chavez Day and the close of Women's History Month, host Kimberlé Crenshaw and award-winning radio host Kaye Wise Whitehead unpack a painful reckoning: recent New York Times revelations of sexual abuse by labor icon Cesar Chavez, including allegations from movement co-founder Dolores Huerta, who broke her silence at age 95. Together they explore why survivors delay disclosure, how hero worship in liberation movements hurts women and girls, and the tension between honoring a movement's legacy while confronting its darkest truths. Music by Blue Dot Sessions. Clips in this episode from: PBS News Hour: Investigation uncovers sexual abuse allegations against Cesar Chavez ABC News: Dolores Huerta: Her Words, Her Movement Connect with us: Donate to our show Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Pre-order Backtalker: An American Memoir and find a book tour date near you at www.kimberlécrenshaw.com
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76. The Story of Us 2026, Part 2 18.03.2026 26mntThis episode is an act of recovery, uplifting the artistic careers that McCarthyism upended through an immersive blend of conversation and artivism performances. This is part two. Click here for part one. Host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by award-winning filmmaker Ava DuVernay; Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Viet Thanh Nguyen; and former President of the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures and film scholar Jacqueline Stewart. Hear powerful artivism performances by two-time Tony Award winning actor Kara Young (Purlie Victorious, Purpose) and Tony-nominated actor Jon Michael Hill (Purpose, Elementary, Detroit 1-8-7, A Man in Full), directed by Professor of Theatre and Africana Studies at Oberlin College Justin Emeka. Music by Blue Dot Sessions. Connect with us: Donate to our show Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Watch an extended cut of this presentation on Youtube Read the Sundance 2026 Director's Cut
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75. Unfinished Business: Racial Justice After Jesse Jackson 21.02.2026 59mntThis episode explores the life and legacy of Jesse Jackson—from organizing alongside Martin Luther King Jr. to building the Rainbow PUSH Coalition and reshaping the American electorate through his historic presidential campaigns. Challenging the media’s narrow framing of Jackson's impact in the wake of his passing, the episode uplifts the ways that his strategy, diplomacy, and inclusive vision laid the groundwork for a stronger democracy — exploring nuances that are often overlooked. Host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by former DNC Chair Donna Brazile, President and Founder of the Truth and Justice Coalition Barbara Arnine, and Professor of Political Science at Hunter College-CUNY Joseph Lowndes. Music by Blue Dot Sessions. Clips in this episode from: ABC News CNN CBS Seasme Street Democracy Now Amanpour & Company Connect with us: Donate to our show Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Watch an extended cut of this presentation on Youtube
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74. The Story of Us 2026, Part 1 12.02.2026 51mntThis episode is an act of recovery, uplifting the artistic careers that McCarthyism upended through an immersive blend of conversation and artivism performances. Host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by award-winning filmmaker Ava DuVernay; Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Viet Thanh Nguyen; and former President of the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures and film scholar Jacqueline Stewart. Hear powerful artivism performances by two-time Tony Award winning actor Kara Young (Purlie Victorious, Purpose) and Tony-nominated actor Jon Michael Hill (Purpose, Elementary, Detroit 1-8-7, A Man in Full), directed by Professor of Theatre and Africana Studies at Oberlin College Justin Emeka. Music by Blue Dot Sessions. Connect with us: Donate to our show Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Watch an extended cut of this presentation on Youtube Read the Sundance 2026 Directors' Cut
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73. The Sounds of Us 18.12.2025 1j 4mntMusic has long been central to the fight for freedom—the rhythmic heartbeat of the struggle for justice. From Beyoncé to Shaboozey to L’il Nas X and Ryan Coogler’s Sinners, Black artists have sparked a much-needed conversation about the rich legacy of Black artistic achievement in multiple genres of American music. This episode celebrates the Black roots of country, blues and folk music by bringing together a dynamic group of artists and scholars to reclaim this often ignored history. Guests: Jake Blount (Musician and Historian), Amythyst Kiah (Banjo Player and Historian), Amanda Ewing (Luthier), Tim Wise ( Writer and Racial Justice Educator), Denitia Odigie (Musician). Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw, produced by the team at the African American Policy Forum Sr. Podcast Producer /Mixer Nicole Edwards Find more on our show and the African American Policy Forum at aapf.org Music by Blue Dot Sessions, Beyoncé, DeFord Bailey. Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Check out our special series on the attack against CRT and DEI called United States of Amnesia: The Real Histories of Critical Race Theory Donate to our show
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ENCORE: 54. #SayHerName - the Art of Bearing Witness on the Page and Stage 05.12.2025 1j 5mntIt's the 11th anniversary of the #SayHerName Campaign. To commemorate, we're uplifting a favourite #SayHerName episode from our archive. Please join us on Dec 8 in NYC for a staged reading of #SayHerName - The Lives That Should have been, featuring a star-studded cast of performers, a talkback with the mothers of the #SayHerName Mothers Network, and a post-show party with performances by special guests. Get your tickets here. This episode highlights a new milestone for the #SayHerName campaign: a new book, entitled #SayHerName: Black Women’s Stories of Police Violence and Public Silence. Co-authored by podcast host Kimberlé Crenshaw and the team at the African American Policy Forum, this book helps readers better understand Black women's susceptibility to police brutality and state-sanctioned violence. It explains —through Black feminist storytelling and ritual — how we can effectively mobilize various communities and empower them to advocate for racial justice for Black women, girls, and femmes. In this podcast episode, you'll hear incredible performances from actors at each of our #SayHerName book tour stops in Philadelphia, Washington D.C., and Baltimore. You'll also hear from members from the #SayHerName Mothers Network, a sisterhood of women who have lost other women, girls and femmes in their family to police violence. You'll also hear from Dr. Kaye Wise Whitehead, Dr. Dorothy Roberts, and Kali Holloway, each of whom served as cohosts at book tour stops in their respective cities. They reflected with Dr. Crenshaw on the power of the tour, the calls to action from the book, and the urgency of the lessons the book contains. Centering Black women’s experiences in police and gender violence discourses sends the powerful message that, in fact, all #BlackLivesMatter, and that the police cannot kill without consequence. Supporting AAPF ensures that this important research and testimony continues to inspire change. To purchase your copy, click here. Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks), with Dorothy Roberts @DorothyERoberts, Kaye Wise Whitehead @kayewhitehead, and Kali Holloway @kalihollowayftw. Produced by Nicole Edwards and the team at the African American Policy Forum. Mixing by Sean Dunnam Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow us on Bluesky, Facebook, and Instagram.
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72. Why Authoritarians Fear Democracy 02.12.2025 1j 36mntThis episode features Legal Defense Fund President and Director-Counsel Janai Nelson with professors Carol Anderson and Nancy MacLean, in conversation with our host Kimberlé Crenshaw. This riveting and timely conversation shows how anti-Blackness can be weaponized to harm democracy for all through voter suppression, money in politics, and the erosion of democratic safeguards. Clips in this episode from Democracy Forward - How Louisiana v. Callais Could Change Voting Rights and Anti-Discrimination Protections Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow us on Instagram, Facecbook, and Bluesky) Learn more about the African American Policy Forum at aapf.org. Donate here.
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71. Why Authoritarians Fear Education 13.11.2025 57mntHost Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by authors Jason Stanley and Randi Weingarten to discuss why authoritarians and fascists target education on the path to destabilizing democracy. They unpack how book bans, attacks on teachers, and efforts to erase history from public institutions threaten the democratic project, and what we can do to fight back. Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw, produced by Kevin Minofu, Sr. Producer Nicole Edwards, and the team at AAPF Find more on our show and the African American Policy Forum at aapf.org News clips from Tamron Hall and WJHL, CTV News Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow the podcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Bluesky Check out our special series on the attack against CRT and DEI called United States of Amnesia: The Real Histories of Critical Race Theory
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70. How Anti-Blackness Destroys Democracy 15.10.2025 1j 16mntAs we slide into autocracy, disparities impacting Black Americans are being ignored while Black excellence is actively erased from our workplaces, museums, and history books. These attacks are no longer cloaked with dog whistles. They're happening in plain sight, and endangering our health, eliminating our jobs, and gutting our civil rights infrastructure. Despite the scale of this attack, the response remains muted—even within our own communities. What must we do to sound the alarm and ensure that others hear it? Where do we go from here? Featuring: Kimberlé Crenshaw, African American Policy Forum Melanie Campbell, Convener of Black Women's Roundtable Evelynn Hammonds, Barbara Gutmann Rosenkrantz Professor of the History of Science and Professor of African and African American Studies Lisa Coleman, President of Adler University Kaye Wise Whitehead, President & CEO National Coalition on Black Civic Participation (NCBCP)
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Part 2: United States of Amnesia: The Real Histories of CRT - Weaponizing (White) Parents' Rights 17.09.2025 40mntIn part 2 of this series, host Kimberlé Crenshaw, refutes the myth that book and curricula bans seek to restore “parental choice” over what kids are exposed to, linking attacks on school lessons about race, gender and more to a broader attack against public education and democracy itself. Join as she traces the history of today's prominent, pro-censorship parent groups throughout American history, back to the Daughters of the Confederacy. Featuring: - Karen Cox, professor of History at UNC-Charlotte - David Yacovone, lifetime associate at Harvard University’s Hutchin’s Centre for African and African American Research, and author of author of Teaching White Supremacy This is an Intersectionality Matters! podcast, produced by the African American Policy Forum. Hosted and co-written by Kimberlé Crenshaw (@sandylocks) Sr Producer and co-writer Nicole Edwards Associate Producers Madison Belo and Sana Hashmi Mixing by Reza Daya with support from Sean Dunnam Follow us on Bluesky and Instagram , or via aapf.org
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69. The Battle for America's Memory, Part 2 07.05.2025 42mntA special collaboration with Today with Dr. Kaye, this episode was taped live at Busboys and Poets in Washington, D.C. Host Kimberlé Crenshaw, with Kaye Wise Whitehead and guests Time Wise, Karen Attiah, Melanie Campbell, Janel George, Ambassador Elizabeth McKune, and Barbara Arnwine, discuss the importance of protecting Black American history through fighting for the Smithsonian, and why the struggle to protect museums goes hand in hand with the struggle to protect democracy. Learn more about the Freedom to Learn Coalition and the annual National Week of Action at freedomtolearn.net This episode was produced by the team at the African American Policy Forum and the team at Today With Dr. Kaye from WEAA. Music by Blue Dot Sessions
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68. The Battle for America's Memory 01.05.2025 47mntAt the Legacy Museum in Montgomery, Alabama, Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by Bryan Stevenson, founder of the Equal Justice Initiative. They explore how museums shape national identity. They also historicize the current political attacks aiming to erase Black narratives, as institutions like the Smithsonian and Whitney Plantation face censorship and defunding because of executive orders. This episode outlines why defending America's memory is essential to defending democracy itself. Dive deeper: Learn more about The Legacy Museum here: https://legacysites.eji.org/about/museum/ Learn about the Freedom to Learn Network's National Week of Action here: https://www.freedomtolearn.net/ This episode used clips from: ABC News 7 WJLA Harvard Historian Responds to Trump’s Order Targeting the Smithsonian | Amanpour and Company WUSA9 Gov. Moore reacts to changes at Smithsonian Hosted and co-written by Kimberlé Crenshaw Sr Producer and co-writer Nicole Edwards Mixing by Sean Dunnam Scripting support from Kevin Minofu, Kristin Penner, Meredith Shiner, and Tim Wise. Music by Blue Dot Sessions
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67. Bloody Sunday, 60 Years Later 14.04.2025 45mntHost Kimberlé Crenshaw takes listeners to Alabama to learn about the contemporary importance of Bloody Sunday and the march from Selma to Montgomery in 1965. Featuring: Cliff Albright, co-founder, Black Voters Matter LaTosha Brown, co-founder, Black Voters Matter Janai Nelson, President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund (LDF) 1965 foot soldiers Denise Jaringan-Holt and Alice Moore Click here to listen an uncut conversation about the Selma Jubilee with Kimberlé Crenshaw on the Laura Flanders and Friends podcast. Podcast co-written and produced by Sr. Producer Nicole Edwards Mixing and sound design by Sean Dunnam Podcast art by Ashley Julien Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters (Twitter), @IMKC_podcast (Instagram + Bluesky)
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66. Executive Disorder 12.03.2025 1j 11mntIn this episode, host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by some of the country's brightest legal minds to discuss the Trump administration's executive orders, how they'll affect progressive movements, and what communities can do to defend those affected. Watch the extended version of this episode Learn more about Trump's executive orders and their potential harms Featuring: Damon Hewitt David J. Johns Russel Robinson Nina Turner Podcast mixed and produced by Sr. Producer Nicole Edwards Under the Blacklight is produced by Kevin Minofu Podcast art by Ashley Julien Music by Blue Dot Sessions Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters (Twitter), @IMKC_podcast (Instagram + Bluesky)
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Part 1: United States of Amnesia: The Real Histories of CRT - The Students Who Protested 29.01.2025 40mntIn the first episode of this limited series, Critical Race Theorist Kimberlé Crenshaw takes listeners on a journey through the origin story of Critical Race Theory (CRT), from her days as a student demanding desegregation at Harvard, to the moment she learned President Trump banned CRT in his 2020 executive order. This episode delves into the hopes and inspiration that birthed the CRT legal movement, and how the current opposition to CRT is history repeating itself. Support our work: https://www.aapf.org/donate Host: Kimberlé Crenshaw Sr. producer/Writer: Nicole Edwards Mixing and Sound Design: Reza Daya Addition mixing support: Sean Dunnam Associate Producers: Madison Bello, Gordon Curry, Sana Hashmi, Kaila Philo, African American Policy Forum team. Art: Work By Index
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Coming Soon - United States of Amnesia: The Real History of Critical Race Theory 22.01.2025 4mntIn a new series, host Kimberlé Crenshaw takes listeners on a journey through the real history of critical race theory (CRT). She explores the "anti-CRT" legislative attacks against public education, and as a founding critical race theorist, Prof. Crenshaw provides a first-hand account of the origin of the theory, from its inception at Harvard Law School to the current backlash against it. Through interviews with thought leaders, activists, academics and the communities affected by anti-CRT and anti-DEI legislation, in this series, Kimberlé Crenshaw uplifts the cycles of history we see repeating before us in the present day, all in the hopes of curing the amnesia that keeps us stuck in the cycles of history.
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65. Views from the 92%: Black Women Reflect on the 2024 Election and the Road Ahead 20.12.2024 1j 7mntIn the final episode of AAPF's election roundtable podcast series, host Kimberlé Crenshaw is joined by Black women advocates, analysts and activists to offer their side of the story about the election and highlight the risks to American democracy if Black women and their experiences continue to be erased. Watch the extended version on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/live/0g8WK8CDS3c?si=nviixofPcmxBcFNd Featuring: Barbara Arnwine, President & Founder of the Transformative Justice Coalition Karen Attiah, Columnist for the Washington Post Kirsten West Savali, Vice President of Content: iOne Digital LaTosha Brown, co-founder of the Black Voters Matter Fund and the BVM Capacity Building Institute Special thanks to: Melanie Campbell, President & CEO National Coalition on Black Civic Participation and Convener of Black Women's Roundtable Fran Phillips-Calhoun, Atlanta Alumnae Chapter of Delta Sigma Theta Kaye Wise Whitehead, AAPF Special Projects Manager and founder of the Karson Institute for Race, Peace and Social Justice at Loyola University Produced by Sr. Producer Nicole Edwards Mixing by Sean Dunnam Associate Art by Ashley Julien Follow us at @intersectionalitymatters (Twitter), @IMKC_podcast (Instagram) Music by Blue Dot Sessions
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