The Hangar Z Podcast
Jon Gray
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A podcast that explores the personnel and equipment behind the missions in Public Safety Aviation.
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Todd Jager Shares the Hard-Earned Lessons That Changed Aviation Tactics Part I | Ep 376 10.08.2026 1j 14mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Valor Plus. Today, we're honored to welcome retired San Diego Police Department Chief Pilot Todd Jager. Todd is a true aviation professional with more than 10,000 hours of rotorcraft flight time, over 1,000 hours in fixed-wing aircraft, and more than 4,100 hours as a Tactical Flight Officer. Throughout his remarkable career, Todd played a pivotal role in training both pilots and Tactical Flight ... -
Over the black ocean: Teamwork, determination, and the rescue of 3 survivors Part 2 | Ep 375 06.08.2026 1j 6mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and Valor Plus. On today's episode, we're honored to welcome Deputy Jonathan Lazada and Deputy Chase Gomez of the Indian River County Sheriff's Office Aviation Unit. Jonathan and Chase are the recipients of the Airborne Public Safety Association's Aircrew of the Year Award, as well as the FLIR Vision Award in the Life Saving category, recognizing their extraordinary efforts during a search that ultimately saved three ... -
Over the black ocean: Teamwork, determination, and the rescue of 3 survivors Part I | Ep 374 03.08.2026 1j 9mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and Valor Plus. On today's episode, we're honored to welcome Deputy Jonathan Lazada and Deputy Chase Gomez of the Indian River County Sheriff's Office Aviation Unit. Jonathan and Chase are the recipients of the Airborne Public Safety Association's Aircrew of the Year Award, as well as the FLIR Vision Award in the Life Saving category, recognizing their extraordinary efforts during a search that ultimately saved three ... -
How Has Modesto’s New Air Unit Made a Positive Impact on Public Safety? Part 2 | Ep 373 27.07.2026 1j 10mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Valor Plus. In this episode we are heading to Modesto, California, to hear how a brand-new air support unit was built from the ground up, and how it’s already changing the way the department fights crime, protects officers, and serves the community. Lt Mike Hicks and Lt Kalani Souza were both involved from the opening decision to start an air unit. They share the process and the many challeng... -
How Has Modesto’s New Air Unit Made a Positive Impact on Public Safety? Part 1 | Ep 372 23.07.2026 1j 13mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Valor Plus. In this episode we are heading to Modesto, California, to hear how a brand-new air support unit was built from the ground up, and how it’s already changing the way the department fights crime, protects officers, and serves the community. Lt Mike Hicks and Lt Kalani Souza were both involved from the opening decision to start an air unit. They share the process and the many challeng... -
What makes a tactical training legacy last for over 25 years? Part 2 | Ep 371 20.07.2026 56mntWelcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Valor Plus. In this special two-part series, hosts Jon Gray and Jack Schonely are joined by Clay Lacey of the Texas Department of Public Safety and Harald Brink of the Dutch National Police to explore the 25-plus-year legacy of Jack Schonely’s tactical training. From individual officer safety to agency-wide operations, Jack’s framework for apprehending fleeing suspects has become a g... -
What makes a tactical training legacy last for over 25 years? Part 1 | Ep 370 16.07.2026 52mntWelcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Valor Plus. In this special two-part series, hosts Jon Gray and Jack Schonely are joined by Clay Lacey of the Texas Department of Public Safety and Harald Brink of the Dutch National Police to explore the 25-plus-year legacy of Jack Schonely’s tactical training. From individual officer safety to agency-wide operations, Jack’s framework for apprehending fleeing suspects has become a g... -
Stanislaus County Sheriff’s Air Unit: Longline rescue and air support part 2 | EP 369 13.07.2026 1j 5mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Valor Plus. On today's episode, we're taking you to California's Central Valley as we visit the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Office Air Support Unit. Joining us are Deputy AJ Nikkel and Deputy Tyler Liburdi, who both serve as pilots and tactical flight officers. We'll explore the fascinating evolution of their aviation unit—from its beginnings as a volunteer organization to the professional ... -
Stanislaus County Sheriff’s Air Unit: Longline rescue and air support part 1 | EP 368 09.07.2026 1j 8mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Valor Plus. On today's episode, we're taking you to California's Central Valley as we visit the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Office Air Support Unit. Joining us are Deputy AJ Nikkel and Deputy Tyler Liburdi, who both serve as pilots and tactical flight officers. We'll explore the fascinating evolution of their aviation unit—from its beginnings as a volunteer organization to the professional ... -
The Danger You Can't See: Fatigue in Public Safety Aviation Part 2 | Ep 367 06.07.2026 1j 17mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and in partnership with Valor Plus. Today's episode is a special collaboration with our friends from the Valor Flight Crew Podcast, and we're tackling a topic that impacts every one of us in aviation — fatigue. Joining us for this outstanding panel discussion are the hosts of the Valor Flight Crew Podcast, Mike Fadale and Blake Shrider. We are also honored to welcome a highly respected aviator with decades... -
The Danger You Can't See: Fatigue in Public Safety Aviation Part 1 | Ep 366 02.07.2026 1j 18mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS and in partnership with Valor Plus. Today's episode is a special collaboration with our friends from the Valor Flight Crew Podcast, and we're tackling a topic that impacts every one of us in aviation — fatigue. Joining us for this outstanding panel discussion are the hosts of the Valor Flight Crew Podcast, Mike Fadale and Blake Shrider. We are also honored to welcome a highly respected aviator with decades... -
APSA 2026 Northeast Director Candidates | Ep 365 25.06.2026 33mntWelcome to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS in partnership with Valor Plus. On today’s episode, we’re pleased to welcome the two candidates for the Airborne Public Safety Association’s Northeast Regional Director position. Joining us are Eric Bourn of the South Berwick Police Department and Lt. Jason Baxley of the Delaware State Police. This special episode provides an opportunity for APSA members to hear directly from the candidates as they introduce themselves, d... -
The Digital Front Line: Social Media Strategy for Public Safety with Tamrin Olden Part 2 | Ep 364 22.06.2026 1j 4mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Plus. In this comprehensive two-part conversation, Jon Gray and Jack Schonely are joined by Tamrin Olden, founder of TOC Public Relations, to discuss why social media has become a mission-critical tool for modern public safety. Moving beyond the "ancillary duty" mindset, Tamrin explains how a strategic digital presence is the foundation for community trust, transparency, and ... -
The Digital Front Line: Social Media Strategy for Public Safety with Tamrin Olden Part 1 | Ep 363 18.06.2026 1j 7mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Plus. In this comprehensive two-part conversation, Jon Gray and Jack Schonely are joined by Tamrin Olden, founder of TOC Public Relations, to discuss why social media has become a mission-critical tool for modern public safety. Moving beyond the "ancillary duty" mindset, Tamrin explains how a strategic digital presence is the foundation for community trust, transparency, and ... -
How Glenn Daley's Experience Shapes Aviation Safety Part 3 | Ep 362 15.06.2026 1j 15mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Plus. Our guest is retired Lieutenant Glenn Daley of the New York City Police Department Aviation Unit. Glenn’s career in airborne law enforcement spans decades of service, leadership, instruction, and experience, that has taken him around the world. This conversation is powerful, emotional, educational, and, without question, one of the most important discussions we have had... -
How Glenn Daley's Experience Shapes Aviation Safety Part 2 | Ep 361 11.06.2026 1j 6mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Plus. Our guest is retired Lieutenant Glenn Daley of the New York City Police Department Aviation Unit. Glenn’s career in airborne law enforcement spans decades of service, leadership, instruction, and experience, that has taken him around the world. This conversation is powerful, emotional, educational, and, without question, one of the most important discussions we have had... -
How Glenn Daley's Experience Shapes Aviation Safety Part I | Ep 360 08.06.2026 1j 8mntWelcome back to the Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Plus. Our guest is retired Lieutenant Glenn Daley of the New York City Police Department Aviation Unit. Glenn’s career in airborne law enforcement spans decades of service, leadership, instruction, and experience, that has taken him around the world. This conversation is powerful, emotional, educational, and, without question, one of the most important discussions we have had... -
Inside SR3: Revolutionizing Rescue Training | Ep 359 04.06.2026 1j 9mntWelcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Plus. This episode was recorded live from the floor of VAI Verticon 2026 in Atlanta at the Vertical Plus booth. In this episode we catch up with two returning guests and highly respected rescue and aviation professionals, retired Las Vegas Metro officer and owner of SR3 Rescue Concepts, Dave Callen, along with longtime law enforcement pilot and SR3 instructor, Tony Weber. This... -
Episode 358 - Blades of Valor Tour 2026: Inside Broward Sheriff's Office Part 3 01.06.2026 1jWelcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Plus. This three-part series comes to you from the hangar at Broward Sheriff's Office as part of the 2026 Blades of Valor Tour, where we had the opportunity to interview Sgt Paul Seda and pilot Carl Spear. The Blades of Valor Tour spotlights public safety aviation units recognized for outstanding service and celebrates those who go above and beyond. We aim to promote the good work these... -
Episode 357 - Blades of Valor Tour 2026: Inside Broward Sheriff's Office Part 2 28.05.2026 1j 1mntWelcome to The Hangar Z Podcast, brought to you by Vertical HeliCASTS, in partnership with Vertical Valor Plus. This three-part series comes to you from the hangar at Broward Sheriff's Office as part of the 2026 Blades of Valor Tour, where we had the opportunity to interview Sgt Paul Seda and pilot Carl Spear. The Blades of Valor Tour spotlights public safety aviation units recognized for outstanding service and celebrates those who go above and beyond. We aim to promote the good work these...
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