Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Episode

• Ep 72: Lifestyle Parties: Chemistry, Connection and Rejection 01.07.2026 1j

  Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a candid conversation about lifestyle parties, attraction, connection, and the many factors that shape our experiences.The couples explore their different approaches to the lifestyle and how they balance socializing, friendships, sexual chemistry, and play experiences. They discuss the excitement that comes with meeting someone new, the thrill of the chase, and why familiar connections can offer a completely different kind of reward.Along the way, they tackle some of the more challenging aspects of the lifestyle—reading interest, communicating attraction, navigating rejection, and dealing with the uncertainty that comes when another couple suddenly goes quiet. The conversation also examines how intentions can shift before and during an event, depending on everything from chemistry with others to the connection they're feeling with their own partner.From "taking one for the team" to choosing quality connections over simply collecting experiences, this episode offers an honest look at the decisions, assumptions, and conversations that happen behind the scenes at lifestyle parties. Whether you're drawn to the excitement of new possibilities or the comfort of established connections, you'll likely find yourself somewhere in this discussion.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) We never go into a party expecting to play(00:02:14) Undiscovered possibilities(00:04:34) Intentions can change based on many factors(00:07:05) No expectations(00:09:10) We always go with the intention to play if we make a connection(00:11:11) Shiny new vs tried and true(00:12:07) Rejection sucks(00:14:58) It may have nothing to do with you and you may never know ‘why’(00:19:52) Processing rejection(00:22:26) There are lots of reasons why people may cancel(00:27:28) The chase vs familiarity(00:29:45) Energy can change in subsequent experiences with the same people(00:31:58) Would you rather…(00:33:17) The lifestyle draws people who want new experiences(00:35:34) Taking one for the team(00:39:55) Sex with other people is like a box of chocolates(00:43:24) Friendships vs play partners(00:45:50) Lifestyle friends you don’t play with(00:48:12) Jenni’s I Love Cliterature book club(00:49:43) An interesting question to consider(00:54:44) Boundaries…is kissing okay?(00:57:41) Discernment in choosing play experiencesWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesBook Your Trip to Temptation or Desirehttps://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/Suzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx
• Ep 71: House Party Vibes: Interest, Intentions & Invitations 17.06.2026 1j 1mnt

  Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a candid conversation about a recent lifestyle party they all attended. What started as a discussion about the event quickly evolved into a deeper look at how different couples navigate attraction, communicate interest, and approach new connections.The couples compare their personal styles, discussing everything from subtle signals and direct communication to common mistakes people make when trying to express interest. They share what they've found works best, what doesn't, and why clear communication remains one of the most important skills in the lifestyle.Along the way, Zack and Josie reflect on how much they've grown since their early days in the lifestyle. They discuss becoming more confident, assertive, and intentional while still prioritizing respect, consent, and mutual enthusiasm. Zack explains why he prefers to wait for clear signs of interest before making a move and how that approach has shaped many of their experiences.The conversation also explores some of the unique challenges faced by newer couples who are still building confidence and learning how to communicate their desires, boundaries, and expectations.Although the episode was intended to feature all four perspectives equally, Zack and Josie ended up doing most of the talking as they unpacked two memorable play experiences from the party. They walk listeners through how each connection developed, the communication that happened along the way, and the lessons they took from both encounters.Whether you're new to the lifestyle or have years of experience, this episode offers an honest look at attraction, communication, confidence, and the social dynamics that can make or break a great party experience.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Party prep(00:02:51) Intentions at parties(00:04:45) Confusing our men(00:05:47) Hit list(00:07:51) Acting thirsty repels people(00:08:34) Pleasantly persistent(00:17:37) The proposition(00:20:51) The play experience(00:24:14) Two directors and two actors(00:31:21) We let it fizzle and made our escape(00:35:38) Communication is so important(00:39:29) We went another round(00:44:18) That’s a ‘no’(00:46:48) I want her to take the lead(00:52:06) Our threesome within a moresome(00:58:17) The night was interesting(01:01:08) To be continued…We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesHoover Maneuver Reference - Episode 17 at 47:00https://bit.ly/3QlR6jCBook Your Trip to Temptation or Desirehttps://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/Suzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx
• Ep 70: From Playboy to Playtime: Ed and Sarah’s Accidental Lifestyle Journey 03.06.2026 54mnt

  Zack and Josie welcome first-time guests Ed and Sarah to the podcast for a fun and unexpectedly relatable lifestyle origin story. What began as a promotional opportunity for Sarah—a former Playboy model—quickly turned into something they never saw coming when they unknowingly arrived at a lifestyle resort.After noticing some unusual interactions between guests, a kind older woman finally pulled them aside and explained exactly where they were…and what everyone was doing there. Rather than running for the exit, Ed and Sarah found themselves drawn to the welcoming atmosphere, body confidence, and freedom of simply being “super naked” around friendly, open-minded people.For several years, that was enough. But on a later trip, an effortless connection with another attractive couple changed everything, leading to their first full swap experience and opening the door to a whole new chapter together.It’s a story about accidental discovery, organic connection, and how sometimes the lifestyle finds you before you ever go looking for it. Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Ladies Love Desire Facebook page(00:02:12) Deer in headlights(00:03:12) Playboy model turned lifestyle resort promoter(00:04:36) These people are really friendly(00:06:28) We got ‘super naked’ at Desire(00:07:12) I wanted women to feel comfortable and welcome(00:08:33) Nothing happened for the first several visits to Desire(00:11:44) We met a really cute couple(00:14:34) It was all we talked about for months(00:18:09) It has become this amazing community of women(00:24:35) Women from the group send sexy pics on husbands’ birthdays(00:29:08) Am I normal questions(00:32:25) Temptations is a non-stop party(00:35:00) We were just sitting next to the bar minding our own business(00:40:43) Temptations vs Desire Pearl vs DRM(00:45:25) You can take her to your room…what am I supposed to do with her?(00:47:52) I’ve always been bi-curious(00:49:16) Theme nights and dressing sexy(00:51:20) Fashion for women over 40 We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesBook Your Trip to Temptation or Desirehttps://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/Ladies Love Desire Facebook Pagehttps://www.facebook.com/groups/LadiesLoveDesireSarah’s Instagram Fashion Accounthttps://www.instagram.com/stylinbysarah_/Suzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx
• Ep 69: Erotica: A Gateway Drug to Sexual Liberation 20.05.2026 59mnt

  Zack and Josie welcome first-time guests Brad and Jenni for a candid and engaging conversation about how their journey into the lifestyle began. What started as Jenni’s private enjoyment of erotica and audiobooks quietly transformed their connection—sparking a level of intimacy Brad couldn’t quite explain until curiosity led him to ask questions.From there, the couple began listening together, eventually discovering podcasts that encouraged deeper conversations—ones they had never had before. Those discussions opened the door to exploring new desires, including Jenni’s interest in a same-sex experience, and set them on a path of shared discovery.Brad and Jenni reflect on the early steps, from navigating dating sites to their evolving experiences in the lifestyle. Along the way, they share the highs, the challenges, and the personal growth that comes with it. Zack and Josie add their own insights, creating a thoughtful and often humorous conversation about communication, compatibility, and how very different personalities can thrive together in this space.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Reaping the benefits from your wife’s erotica addiction(00:05:11) Sex Stories podcast built our communication and eliminated fears(00:10:08) Erotica was our gateway drug(00:12:50) First FF experience(00:16:59) Insecurities, intimidation and support(00:20:51) Women with magnetic energy and confidence(00:23:29) FF dynamics(00:25:37) Our first meeting with a couple(00:29:46) Did I break a ‘rule’?(00:32:47) Different communication styles create conflict(00:34:31) ‘I need water’(00:37:56) Flirting and socializing(00:39:50) Assessing when it’s time to play(00:42:09) Closing the deal and missed opportunities(00:44:06) Four way dynamics are tough to assess(00:46:55) Exploring separate play(00:48:06) Capitalizing on the energy in the moment(00:51:21) Communication in the moment can be challenging(00:53:06) Playing it safe vs taking more risks(00:54:26) Fear of misinterpretation(00:56:44) Enjoying all the lifestyle layersWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesSex Stories Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sex-stories-real-people-talking-about-sex-love-relationships/id1448122972Suzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx
• Ep 68: Fantasies: Compersion, Connection, and the Power of Watching 06.05.2026 54mnt

  Drew and Suzie are back for a wide-ranging conversation with Zack and Josie about fantasies—where they come from, how they evolve, and why they don’t always follow logic.Drawing from her experience as an erotica author, Suzie shares how deeply she engages with both her own fantasies and those of others, emphasizing that the most powerful turn-ons often center around connection, comfort, and undeniable chemistry. The group explores how compersion weaves its way into many of their fantasies, and why watching others can be such an intense and exciting experience.They also unpack an important idea: fantasies don’t need to make sense—and trying to overanalyze them can cause them to lose their appeal. Just because something is a turn-on doesn’t mean it’s something that needs to be acted on, a perspective Josie reinforces with insight she’s gained from her doctor and host of The PG Spot.The conversation touches on anticipation and “the reveal,” the role of storytelling in building desire, and what it looks like when long-held fantasies shift from imagination into real-life experiences. Along the way, they also discuss how they’ve helped other couples explore their own desires and expand their boundaries in ways they may not have considered before.Thoughtful, playful, and honest, this episode offers a high-level look at fantasies without overcomplicating them—while still leaving plenty to think about.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Fantasies are an occupational necessity(00:03:20) Fantasies with compersion at the core(00:05:20) Suzie’s books(00:07:15) Fantasizing about someone else’s reality(00:11:06) Fantasies don’t have to be realistic(00:12:37) Compersion and voyeurism(00:14:10) Start with the unknown(00:15:27) A glimpse of nudity can be hotter than full nudity(00:17:32) ‘The reveal’(00:19:43) From sexually shut down to sexual experimentation(00:21:54) Fucklicking(00:26:15) Expanding your circle of comfort(00:28:57) Acting out your fantasies with play partners(00:32:20) Vulnerability breeds vulnerability(00:34:33) Being told sometimes easier than asking for permission(00:36:37) FaceTime play sessions(00:42:00) FMF threesome vs a foursome(00:45:20) Taking and sharing videos of play sessions(00:48:12) Why foursomes are perfect(00:50:56) Future plans…fantasies fulfilledWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/Zack’s reference to Josie’s masturbation storyEp 62: Sexy Swinger Confessions: Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played Round 3 at 00:17:00ResourcesSuzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOxThePGSpot Podcasthttps://open.spotify.com/show/4vUEHaqFfytqT99PVdLpcr?si=102cd36b32a5474e
• Ep 67: New vs. Repeat Partners: Novelty or Proven Chemistry 22.04.2026 56mnt

  Zack and Josie are back with Drew and Suzie—and this time, the conversation dives into the dynamics of new vs. repeat play.They kick things off with a bold question: what’s the perfect size? Josie and Suzie quickly find themselves in agreement—and their reasoning sets the tone for a fun, unfiltered conversation.From there, the conversation turns to what really drives desire. Zack says all he needs is mutual attraction, but Josie pushes back, arguing that context, energy, and connection play a much bigger role. While Zack and Josie admit they’re often open to new, in-the-moment opportunities, Drew and Suzie lean toward repeat experiences—where trust, comfort, and deeper exploration can take things further.That leads to a conversation about the “script.” Zack jokes that most couples stick to a familiar playbook, while Drew and Suzie are working with a much more expansive “menu.” They share how curiosity, communication, and a willingness to explore have shaped their experiences—and how they even help others expand theirs.And in the end, Zack shares the mindset shift that’s helped him enjoy it all more: letting go of expectations and simply being present for whatever unfolds.So… is it better to chase something new, or deepen something familiar?Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) AWG: The perfect penis(00:04:01) It there’s mutual attraction, I’m good to play(00:06:49) Context and novelty vs familiarity(00:10:54) Exchange of energy plays a big role in interest(00:12:02) Familiarity is more important than novelty(00:16:30) Voyeurism, compersion and Easy Bake Ovens(00:19:10) Going ‘off script’ and keeping things spicy(00:24:04) It’s exciting to help other people explore their sexuality(00:25:54) I don’t know what I don’t know(00:27:42) Vulnerability creates opportunities for new experiences(00:28:58) Sounding…are you into it?(00:32:05) How do you broaden your sex menu(00:35:29) Regretting the things you did do vs the things you didn’t do(00:36:29) Expanding our sex menu(00:39:53) Prescheduled weekend dynamics(00:42:53) Making the best of every situation(00:45:18) Letting go of anticipation to enjoy the moment you’re in(00:47:32) Expanding your sex menu(00:49:56) Finding other couples with extensive sex menus(00:53:10) We’ve had some amazing play experiencesWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠Want to be a guest? Start with our guest application and tell us all about yourselves!https://twoplustwopodcast.com/guest/ResourcesSuzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx
• Ep 66: Bliss Sexy Sampler Cruise: Expectations, Experiences & Everything In Between 08.04.2026 51mnt

  Zack and Josie are joined once again by Drew and Suzie as they unpack their first Bliss Cruise experience—while also explaining why they’ve come to jokingly refer to their Virgin Voyages trips as “Swinger Light.”From their first Bliss sailing—dubbed The Sexy Sampler Cruise—to comparing the overall vibe, they dive into the differences between the two cruise experiences. They break down everything from cost and crowd to how (and where) people express themselves, both subtly and unapologetically.But what truly sets Bliss apart? The intention behind it. Together, they reflect on how the meet ‘n greets, workshops, and curated experiences create a sense of connection and inclusivity for every dynamic, every curiosity, and every comfort level.One of the most powerful moments of the episode comes when Drew opens up about a deeply personal experience in the dungeon on the final night. As someone who’s used to being in control in every area of his life, stepping into a submissive role offered something unexpected—a release. Supported by Suzie and Lady Lethal, the experience became more than just physical; it created an intense emotional connection between the couple that carried far beyond that night.Zack and Josie reflect on their own journey this cruise—why it ended up being their favorite Bliss experience yet, despite not loving the ship itself. By letting go of expectations and focusing on what they genuinely enjoy, they found themselves in more organic, meaningful moments.They also revisit the highly anticipated Dance ‘n Play, sharing why it didn’t quite hit the same this time—and how something as simple as room layout can completely shift the energy of a space.From instant connections with new couples to lessons on trust, communication, and trying things more than once, this episode is a mix of playful honesty and deeper reflection on what makes these experiences so impactful.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) ‘Swinger Light’ Virgin Cruises(00:01:33) Our first Bliss Cruise…the Sexy Sampler(00:03:42) Finding lifestyle people on a vanilla [Virgin] cruise(00:05:28) Dressing provocatively on a vanilla cruise(00:07:24) Cruising for foodies(00:08:12) Cost comparison Bliss vs Virgin(00:10:42) Bliss meet ‘n greets and workshops(00:14:08) Drew, Suzie and Lady Lethal (00:23:23) Organic experiences are the best experiences(00:26:35) Dance ‘n Play: daytime foam parties vs evening playroom(00:31:45) Do anything at least twice(00:34:40) Trust in your partner and your agreements(00:41:24) We meet a couple we clicked with immediately(00:42:52) We missed the Royal Caribbean Promenade and dance floor(00:48:25) Parting thoughtsWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠ResourcesSuzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx
• Ep 65: Pre-Bliss Adventures: Trapeze, the Meet ‘n Greet, and Organic Connections 25.03.2026 49mnt

  Zack and Josie kick off a new chapter of Two Plus Two with a subtle shift in format before welcoming back fan-favorite guest co-hosts Drew and Suzie (formerly known as Luke and Rickie from Episode 41).Together, they dive into their pre–Bliss Cruise adventures in Fort Lauderdale—starting with their first visit to Trapeze and the high-energy hotel meet ‘n greet. From the moment they walk in, they break down what makes Trapeze unique: the electric dance floor, the layout, the vibe, and how the space creates opportunities for both connection and exploration.They discuss expectations vs. hopes, what it’s like to go into a shared experience together but come away with completely different perspectives, and why the best moments are often the ones that aren’t planned.Zack and Josie also share highlights from a couple of memorable connections, offering just enough detail to help listeners decide if Trapeze—or a pre-cruise meet-up—is right for them.They wrap with thoughts on connecting before events, Telegram group dynamics, and why they would absolutely attend the meet ‘n greet again.Please support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Two Plus Two transition(00:02:53) Welcome Drew and Suzie (FKA Luke and Rickie)(00:05:40) First Trapeze experience was a complete chapter(00:10:49) Organic experiences are the best experiences(00:12:25) Experiences are different even in shared experiences(00:13:58) Sometimes the best experiences are the once that stretch us(00:15:17) Trapeze layout(00:20:17) We went in together…but not everyone played(00:23:28) Expectations vs hopes(00:26:21) We did more of the things we enjoy doing(00:28:01) Enjoy all the layers and meet new people(00:31:48) Zack explored an incredible connection(00:37:56) It got so hot, we triggered the fire alarm(00:40:34) Connecting ahead of the cruise on Telegram chat(00:42:02) We would do the Meet ‘n Greet again(00:45:26) The shorter M-F cruise was great(00:47:00) Telegram chats and rejectionWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠ResourcesSuzie Webster Author Pagehttps://amzn.to/4rXPfOx
• Ep 64: Lifestyle Friend Groups: Inclusive or Exclusive 11.03.2026 1j 6mnt

  In this episode, the Two Plus Two crew dives into a topic that can quietly shape the lifestyle experience: close friend groups and the perception of cliques.They start by unpacking what a “clique” really is. Is it intentional exclusivity? Or is it simply comfort, chemistry, and shared history that naturally draw certain people together? The conversation explores whether people inside these tight-knit circles even realize how they’re perceived—and how it feels to be on the outside looking in.The crew reflects candidly on their own experience traveling together to Lake Havasu last year, admitting that while they never intended to be seen as a clique, they may have given that impression. They dig into the nuances of introducing close friends to other friends, navigating attraction that isn’t universal, and managing group dynamics when not everyone clicks. They emphasize that you don’t have to play together to build meaningful friendships—and that connection in the lifestyle is highly specific and deeply personal.Brad and Brittany also open up about being the “hub” of multiple friendships and what that role can bring: balancing attention, fearing they might interfere with others’ potential connections, and trying to create space for everyone to feel included. The group discusses how personality differences show up in social settings—especially for those who are less dominant in group situations—and how comparison can quietly creep in, even among people who genuinely support one another.They explore how perception fuels comparison, how easy it is to measure your real life against someone else’s highlight reel, and how that mindset can distort reality. Throughout the conversation, they return to a grounding theme: control what you can, accept what you can’t, and focus on building authentic connections instead of competing narratives.By the end, the question remains: are cliques truly forming in the lifestyle, or are they sometimes just reflections of our own perspective? The Two Plus Two crew invites you to examine your assumptions, embrace openness, and remember that comfort and community don’t have to come at the expense of inclusion.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Clits or cliques?(00:03:43) What’s a clique(00:04:40) Is it a clique or is it just comfortable?(00:08:08) Being perceived as part of a clique?(00:10:08) Introducing close friends to other friends(00:12:47) You don’t have to fuck to be friends(00:14:20) Attraction and connection is very specific(00:17:43) Navigating group dynamics when not everyone clicks(00:20:47) Traveling with friends(00:24:12) We navigate lifestyle travel differently(00:26:49) Being a less dominant personality in a group situation(00:29:30) We really see each other but comparison still happens(00:34:11) Perception is a key element of comparison(00:36:30) Comparing your real life to someone’s highlight real(00:39:41) Comparing your life to the best of everyone else’s lives(00:43:51) Control what you can control and accept what you can’t(00:47:13) Focusing on making new connections(00:51:41) Being the hub of multiple friendships(00:54:34) Fear of interfering with our friends’ potential connections(00:58:59) It’s hard not to make comparisons(01:00:26) Dance and Play and the dick shot(01:02:51) Cliques may be just your perceptionWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠
• Ep 63: Successful Play Sessions: Expectations, Communication, and Connection 04.03.2026 1j

  In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into what a “successful” play experience really means — and why that definition looks different for each of them. They unpack what matters most in play sessions, the changes they’re intentionally making to increase their enjoyment of the lifestyle, and whether build-up enhances the experience or creates unrealistic expectations — or if there’s a sweet spot somewhere in between.The crew explores the idea that fantasy will almost always outshine reality, and why sex with other people rarely compares to the connection you have with your partner. At the same time, they highlight the unique experiences the lifestyle offers that simply aren’t possible without other people involved.They also introduce the “scale” they use to measure play experiences — with sex with their partner sitting at a 10, most lifestyle encounters landing in the mid-5s to 6s, and truly great sessions reaching a 7 or 8. More importantly, they break down the things within their control that can shift those numbers upward and lead to more fulfilling, enjoyable play.It’s an honest, thoughtful conversation about expectations, communication, and finding satisfaction in the lifestyle beyond chasing a perfect fantasy.Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) A successful swap is when nobody poops!(00:02:11) Is an orgasm the benchmark for success?(00:03:48) For Brad endurance equals is success(00:07:09) Zack breaks the play experience into separate parts(00:08:39) Should you expect mediocre sex because it’s new?(00:12:07) Letting go on vacation(00:13:00) Asking your play partner what they like before you play(00:16:06) Our experiences are similar but our scales are different(00:21:00) Experiences can be mind blowing even if the sex is not(00:22:14) Identifying things to enjoy aside from your play partner(00:23:44) Brittany’s spider monkey move(00:25:27) Build up is important(00:26:30) Asking questions may be better than assuming(00:28:23) Having an orgasm is not important to some of us(00:30:13) No compensating factors is an issue(00:31:51) Methods and preference for kissing are very personal(00:33:50) Is more communication better?(00:36:04) Somebody typically takes the dominant role in kissing(00:40:21) Fantasy vs reality(00:46:41) Average, above average or below average(00:50:17) It’s impossible to judge what a play session will be like beforehand(00:54:02) What you focus on impacts your enjoyment of the experience(00:57:00) Tongue punching and other kissing techniques We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠
• Ep 62: Sexy Swinger Confessions: Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played Round 3 25.02.2026 1j 6mnt

  Round Three is officially underway — and the confessions are bolder, kinkier, and even more revealing than before. In this latest installment of Sexy Swinger Confessions: Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played, the Two Plus Two crew jumps back into the game that always sparks laughter, honesty, and a few jaw-dropping moments.From golden showers and nipple clamps to role-playing throwbacks and risky public encounters, the hosts break down what’s an enthusiastic yes, a hard no, a curious maybe, and what’s already been checked off the lifestyle bucket list. The conversation heats up as they dive into pegging, degradation play, anonymous experiences, trains, all-girl fun, tantric connections, and even consensual non-consensual dynamics — all with their signature mix of humor, vulnerability, and real-world perspective.As always, this round isn’t just about shock value. It’s about communication, boundaries, curiosity, and how different desires show up in real relationships.Pour a drink, settle in, and get ready for another round of sexy, unfiltered swinger confessions that might just have you rethinking your own Yay, Nay, or May list. Support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Here we go! Round Three!!(00:01:47) Golden showers…and peeing with a hard-on(00:06:22) Nipple clamps(00:09:58) Role Playing…a long trip back into the memory banks(00:14:05) Public sex…and the riskiest place you’ve done it(00:21:54) Pegging(00:28:41) Degradation or humiliation play(00:31:06) Anonymous or masked play(00:38:26) Train(00:45:17) All girl play(00:49:44) Tantric or slow sex(00:55:34) Consensual non-consensual (CNC)We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com
• Ep 61: Looping Back: Conversations That Hit a Nerve — And Why 18.02.2026 1j 2mnt

  This isn’t a replay of past episodes—it’s a deeper look at the conversations that didn’t end when the recording stopped. After hearing how certain topics landed with listeners, the crew reflects on what stirred discomfort, curiosity, and strong reactions—and why those responses matter.Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany unpack listener feedback ranging from opinions about Brad’s penis and uncut men (including one listener’s candid personal experience), to the polarized reactions following their conversation with Roger and Jessica—a committed couple exclusive with another couple who don’t identify as poly. When some female listeners admitted they couldn’t even finish that episode, the group explores what may have made it so uncomfortable and encourages a second listen with fresh perspective.The episode also includes a sincere apology to Tharen and Aussie listeners everywhere for mistakenly calling Hugh Jackman British (he’s Australian—lesson learned).Finally, Josie shares the full story of the conversations she had with her two oldest daughters about the lifestyle, the podcast, and Peaches’nCream. Their very different reactions reinforce a key truth first discussed in Episode 59: when it comes to hard conversations, approach matters—sometimes more than the topic itself.JOIN US at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Looping back on episode 41 with Luke and Rickie(00:04:12) Maybe it’s more bi-situational(00:06:04) We had to analyze why we had an aversion to the idea(00:07:28) Is MM sex a turn on?(00:10:51) Three questions for Luke (and Rickie)(00:13:26) Reactions to Brad’s uncut penis(00:16:00) Here’s little Brad!(00:20:17) We apologize to all our Aussie listeners(00:23:26) And we’re back to glory holes(00:24:20) My OB/GYN has a podcast called The PGSpot(00:27:11) What is considered ‘lifestyle’?(00:28:38) Our feelings can be a product of insecurity(00:32:28) Using the ‘L’ word is controversial(00:35:00) If your partner announced they loved a play partner(00:37:14) Playing with fire(00:40:16) Overthinking things is what this podcast is all about(00:40:43) Josie told her 29 year old daughter about the lifestyle(00:46:12) Setting the stage for the next conversation(00:47:22) Josie’s 34 year old daughter’s response was somewhat surprising(00:51:07) She said I was more self aware than before(00:53:03) Your approach matters(00:56:13) Zack wasn’t there for either conversation but felt good about them(00:57:18) Our conversations about the lifestyle has deepened our connection(00:58:42) Exposing ourselves our kids through the podcastWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com
• Ep 60: Taking a Break: Pressing Pause on the Lifestyle 11.02.2026 52mnt

  Sometimes the healthiest move a couple can make in the lifestyle is to step back.In this episode, the Two Plus Two crew open up about taking breaks—why they happen, how they feel, and what they can reveal about a relationship. Each host shares personal and vulnerable reasons they’ve needed to pause, from forced breaks due to health concerns to intentional step-backs caused by disconnection, burnout, and shifts in intimacy.The discussion centers on the reality that while the lifestyle can be meaningful and fulfilling, it should never take priority over a couple’s relationship, mental health, or family. Navigating that balance can be difficult, especially when trying to remain connected with lifestyle friends without coming across as dismissive, cold, or overly descriptive.This episode explores the emotional and sexual impact of stepping away, including frustration, regret, and the compounding effects of unmet needs. The hosts discuss the importance of trusting instincts, using protection, and communicating where they are emotionally—even when clarity is still forming. They also talk through the challenges of re-engaging after a break, determining when abstaining or testing is appropriate, and reflecting on what they would do differently moving forward.For anyone who has questioned whether it’s acceptable to pause, felt pressure to keep up, or struggled with timing and communication, this episode reinforces an important truth: taking a step back can be healthy, necessary, and relationship-strengthening.Sometimes, timing really is everything.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Defining ‘taking a break’(00:02:41) Exposure to a MGen forced a break(00:04:43) The negative impact to our intimacy and closeness(00:06:03) Disconnection, irritation and regret(00:07:39) Follow your instincts and use protection even in external play(00:09:24) Re-engaging in the lifestyle(00:11:04) You need the release(00:12:20) It compounds and you get ‘backed up’(00:14:27) How do we re-engage after our forced break(00:16:27) Crawling through 1,000 yards of shit(00:18:47) Determining what we each want to communicating that(00:20:40) Is there a universal message here somewhere?(00:22:00) Knowing when abstaining and/or testing is appropriate(00:25:32) What we’ll do differently(00:27:36) Where there’s smoke there’s fire(00:28:27) Early on we had to step out of the lifestyle(00:33:34) The spoon theory(00:36:19) Your state of mind impacts your interest in sex(00:38:22) Communicating where you’re at without being specific(00:41:58) The podcast creates some additional challenges(00:43:00) This response gives you flexibility related to your timeline(00:46:59) Lifestyle people are supportive(00:48:08) Taking a step back is healthy and acceptable(00:49:33) Timing is everything  We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com
• Ep 59: Beyond the Birds and the Bees: Talking to Your Kids About the Lifestyle 04.02.2026 58mnt

  A listener’s message sparks one of the most emotionally loaded conversations we’ve ever had as lifestyle parents. After receiving a text from her adult daughter that read, “I know about you and dad’s extracurricular activities,” we’re forced to confront a question many couples quietly avoid: What happens when your kids know… or might know… about your life?We unpack the initial wave of fear, embarrassment, and panic, but quickly move beyond the shock to something deeper—what it actually means to live openly and honestly when you’re confident in your choices. While none of our children know yet, Zack and Josie share why they’re preparing to tell their oldest daughters, answering the question Brad and Brittany posed: Why tell them at all?This episode isn’t about justifying the lifestyle or asking for permission. It’s about being grounded in your “why,” trusting yourself, and showing up without defensiveness. We talk about how being “out” can bring relief, clarity, and stronger boundaries, and why authenticity often matters more than perfect timing or flawless delivery.We also explore the realities parents wrestle with—how different kids may react very differently, how siblings can complicate things, and why the real conversation often isn’t about sex at all. It’s about values, honesty, and modeling what it looks like to live a full, intentional life.If you’ve ever wondered whether openness could bring peace—or if staying silent is really protecting anyone—this episode sits right in that uncomfortable, powerful space between fear and freedom.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) MrsCaliente Cookies’ question(00:02:36) Your parents’ sex life(00:04:28) Initial reactions to the message(00:06:35) How did she find out and is it relevant?(00:09:14) A cautionary tale about text messages(00:12:50) Some children can handle it and others may not be able to(00:14:23) Your own opinion of the lifestyle can drive the conversation(00:16:27) Siblings may share the news with one another(00:18:01) Walking in on your parents(00:21:18) I’ve got a secret!(00:22:34) We’re planning to tell our kids soon(00:26:11) Disclaimer: it’s not just about having sex with other people(00:28:31) One couples’ son decided to get in the LS after ‘the conversation’(00:29:44) Focus on being authentic(00:30:25) Is this possible given recent struggles?(00:36:07) Relief can come from being ‘out’(00:37:41) Why the qualifiers?(00:42:15) Request to not play in her daughter’s town(00:46:16) Get to the bottom of the real concerns and address those(00:48:59) Readdressing the conversation after your initial reaction(00:52:44) You don’t need to convince anybody(00:54:00) Living your life for yourself and not your kids  We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠
• Ep 58: Women’s Health in Swinging: Taking Care of Your Kitty 28.01.2026 1j 2mnt

  Callie is back—returning guest from our STD episode—for a much-needed deep dive into women’s health in the lifestyle. Joined by Zack, Josie, and Brittany, this conversation tackles the realities many women face but rarely hear clearly explained, especially in non-monogamous spaces.We start by unpacking how women are often forced to crowdsource health advice from friends instead of providers, and why women’s health research has historically been overlooked. From there, Callie shares her professional experience alongside real-world frustrations many lifestyle women encounter with doctors who don’t ask the right questions—or don’t know what to test for.The episode covers prevention, testing frequency, and what actually spreads (spoiler: it’s not toilet seats). We dig into HSV, BV, vaginal pH changes, biological incompatibility, boric acid, probiotics, wipes, supplements, and how condoms, flavored lubes, hormones, IUDs, and HRT can all impact vaginal health. Callie also explains why standard NAAT tests can be limited, why specificity with your provider matters, and what to do if you think you’ve been exposed.We also explore the financial and logistical hurdles of testing, insurance limitations, responsibility to partners, and navigating the lifestyle while trying to conceive or managing conditions like Hashimoto’s. Throughout the conversation, one message stays clear: listen to your body, advocate for yourself, and find a provider you trust—even if it takes time.This episode is educational, candid, and empowering—because taking care of yourself is part of taking care of the people you play with.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Women often get health advice from other women(00:03:48) Specific study of women’s health has been ignored for a long time(00:05:19) Callie’s professional experience and our experiences of other professionals(00:07:12) Best methods of prevention and frequency of testing(00:08:42) HSV(00:10:06) Toilet seats may be dirty…but not responsible for STD’s(00:10:57) Annual exams and pap smears(00:14:52) Your pH and vaginal health can be impacted(00:16:01) Boric acid, cleaning and probiotics(00:17:12) pH wipes and biological incompatibility(00:17:55) Uqora and other supplements(00:21:28) This is not medical advice(00:23:05) Communicating effectively with your provider(00:27:30) What is Bacterial Vaginosis (BV) and how is it spread?(00:31:58) Condoms and flavored lubes(00:34:56) What to test for and frequency(00:38:43) NAAT tests are very basic tests and and are not specific(00:40:41) Be specific with your provider(00:42:42) Best course of action if you’ve been exposed(00:44:00) Some tests are expensive and insurance won’t cover them(00:45:34) Overcoming hurdles to testing(00:47:50) Being responsible in keeping others safe(00:49:21) Fluctuation in women’s bodies, hormones and the IUD(00:51:56) Trying to get pregnant and the lifestyle(00:53:12) Hashimoto’s and birth control(00:58:56) HRT(01:01:20) Listen to your body and find a doctor who you trust  We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com
• Ep 57: Uncut and Unfiltered: Sensitivity, Pleasure, and Perception 21.01.2026 50mnt

  In this candid — and hilariously honest — conversation, all four hosts tackle a topic that rarely gets talked about openly: uncircumcised penises. Brad opens up about growing up uncut in a world where it wasn’t common, including the insecurity, teasing, and the unforgettable childhood nickname “Snuffleupagus.” We explore real-world differences between circumcised and uncircumcised penises — sensitivity, oral sex, comfort in underwear, hygiene myths, and the realities of sex and play.Brad shares the story of the moment he thought he “broke” his penis as a teenager (spoiler: he didn’t — but his foreskin was never the same). Josie and Brittany reflect on what it was like the first time they experienced Brad’s body, and we unpack the stigma some couples still have about playing with uncut men — where it comes from, and how it affects confidence and connection.With lots of laughs, vulnerability, and plenty of good-natured teasing, we also talk about whether — and how — someone might disclose being uncut to new play partners… including a few fun and sexy ways to say it. This episode is equal parts educational, compassionate, and delightfully irreverent — and definitely one you won’t forget.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) I was different(00:04:16) Kids are cruel(00:05:44) What women should know(00:07:46) The tip is really sensitive when the skin is pulled back(00:08:48) I thought I broke my penis(00:10:49) Blowing one for the first time(00:13:53) The foreskin and using lube(00:15:13) New partners(00:19:15) Hygiene(00:20:46) Most women are receptive(00:21:59) I view it as a positive(00:23:35) Why some have ‘no uncut’ in their profiles(00:25:22) Ignorance(00:26:17) Things can get funky(00:27:50) Zack Stats(00:29:28) To circumcise or not to circumcise(00:34:17) Brad is in good company(00:35:48) Pulling it back(00:38:45) Suck it!(00:40:24) Sharing information ahead of playing(00:42:41) Not many women are forward(00:44:59) They come in all different shapes and sizes We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com
• Ep 56: Exclusivity with Another Couple: Love, Boundaries, and Commitment 14.01.2026 1j 1mnt

  In this episode, Zack and Josie sit down with Roger and Jessica, a lifestyle couple whose journey has taken an unexpected turn — into an exclusive, emotionally connected relationship with another couple. After two years in the lifestyle, what began as group dates evolved into alternating date nights, overnight visits, out-of-state trips, and eventually a shared commitment they now describe as having a “boyfriend” and “girlfriend.”Roger and Jessica share how they’ve navigated parenting schedules, deepening emotional bonds, New Relationship Energy, and the intentional work they’ve done in counseling to build the tools needed for success. Even as their connection with their partner couple grows, they remain grounded in their marriage as their primary commitment — while also acknowledging that they genuinely love their boyfriend and girlfriend.We also explore how they define this relationship: Is it poly? Is it still “just” the lifestyle? Or is it something in-between? Roger and Jessica talk openly about the labels that fit — and the ones that don’t — as they shape a relationship model that feels authentic to them.With their own history of a four-way relationship that ended in divorce, Zack and Josie ask the tough questions: Is this beautiful connection also dangerous territory? What boundaries, agreements, and self-awareness does it take to make a relationship like this work? Join us as we unpack the practical, emotional, and relational realities of choosing exclusivity inside the lifestyle.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) It all started with a sexy dream(00:02:27) Lifestyle adjacent(00:03:15) Conversation and open communication(00:03:41) We had no idea what we were doing(00:05:42) We had a few FWB’s for about a year(00:07:44) We got into an exclusive relationship(00:10:19) Isn’t being exclusive dangerous territory?(00:14:20) Our deliberate approach(00:15:19) The love we feel for different people is different than the love we feel for each other(00:18:39) Communication, connection and boundaries(00:20:18) Play parameters(00:22:52) We are able to disconnect from daily life with our play partners(00:25:33) An open marriage…not poly(00:27:59) It isn’t always easy(00:29:25) We share the big things with each other, but not every detail(00:31:27) Insecurities and compersion(00:33:50) We experience things differently because it’s a different dynamic(00:34:35) Loving vs being in love(00:37:05) Staying focused on our mutual goals(00:39:13) Vulnerability creates closeness and excitement(00:40:52) An exclusive relationship solves some of the challenges of the lifestyle(00:42:47) Navigating lifestyle events in an exclusive relationship(00:44:58) One-on-one dates(00:45:36) Protecting our couple time and our family time(00:47:17) One-on-one overnights and travel with play partners(00:48:39) The more we do it the more comfortable it becomes(00:50:36) Overnights were initially terrifying(00:52:47) The kids are young and are unaware(00:58:35) Boyfriend / girlfriend titles We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com
• Ep 55: Midlife in the Lifestyle: Freedom, Urgency, and Identity 07.01.2026 59mnt

  As we get older, our bodies, our priorities, and even the way we experience the lifestyle begin to shift. In this episode, all four hosts are back at the table to talk honestly about aging, self-image, and how time changes our perspective on play, connection, and identity.Brad and Josie — both in their 50s — share what it feels like to realize they’re past the halfway point in life, while Brittany reflects on approaching that milestone, and Zack talks about only recently turning 40. Together, we ask: Is 50 really a turning point? When do you start to feel your mortality… or your freedom? And is the lifestyle a young person’s game, or does age bring its own kind of power?We explore body confidence, the “I don’t give a f***” stage of life, the pressure some of us feel to “live bigger now” while we still can, and whether urgency, opportunity, and time shape our choices. We also talk about the strengths that come with age — experience, perspective, emotional maturity, and success — and how those benefits can sometimes feel at odds with the expectations of the lifestyle.Of course, we keep it real with plenty of humor too… including joking about when we finally get to “give up,” skip the gym, eat whatever we want, and go off the rails. 😉We wrap with a reminder that pleasure, connection, and adventure don’t expire — and that the lifestyle can be meaningful, fun, and fulfilling at any age.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Insecurities about age(00:05:09) Perception of age is changing(00:09:25) The lifestyle is a young person’s game(00:10:35) You’re never too old to have sex(00:11:38) Times have changed and society is shifting(00:15:33) Age bursts(00:20:39) At what age will we no longer be attractive to younger people(00:23:16) Not disclosing your age(00:25:40) Carpe diem(00:29:16) Aging can feel limiting(00:31:58) Aging is also a blessing(00:33:45) It’s a 50’s thing(00:35:10) I don’t want the clock to run out(00:37:17) I thought the lifestyle is a short term project(00:39:54) Times have changed and so has the lifestyle(00:43:48) Stages and cycles of the lifestyle(00:45:24) Age plays into sexual liberation(00:48:38) Our perspectives changed in less than an hour(00:51:13) My journey isn’t about age although aging is part of the journey(00:52:34) The age when you stop giving a fuck(00:55:24) Not giving a fuck We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠RESOURCESThe Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson
• Ep 54: Behind the Mic 2025: Unfiltered, Uncensored, Unzipped 31.12.2025 1j 17mnt

  To celebrate our first full year of Two Plus Two, we’re pulling back the curtain and sharing some of our favorite private conversations, outrageous stories, and unforgettable play moments. In this milestone episode, Zack and Josie revisit a fun, sexy, weird, and wonderfully awkward party encounter — and yes, they spill all the dirty details.Your Two Plus Two crew also has some fun shaking up the opener, including outtakes from Brad’s dramatic “sexy vampires” intro. We chat about a single vanilla guy who proudly declared himself a slut — and somehow ended up sharing his opinions on vaginas, STDs, and his vast collection of experiences. Zack and Josie also recount a hot play session with a pair of Two Plus Two listeners, and we open up about some of our own intimate moments with our partners along the way.From joking about handing out goodie bags at our orgies, to the guys teasing us about finishing their sentences, the conversation veers between playful, personal, and downright hilarious. Brad and Brittany share a wild lifestyle weekend story where Brittany’s insatiable sex drive turned Brad into a human Sybian — even after he tucked her into bed… more than once.We also laugh about how vanillas see swingers in public (and what happens when we let them in on the secret), and we dive into a conversation about Zack’s first wife being Mormon — which leads us into the curious world of “soaking” and “docking.”It’s raw, real, sexy, nostalgic, and the perfect way to celebrate one amazing year of stories, laughter, connection, and community.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) An intro mash up(00:01:02) The play by play of an interesting play experience(00:11:39) Outtakes and fun banter (00:12:39) Shweddy Balls and Sexy Vampires(00:14:10) Stinky vaginas and drippy penises(00:17:04) Mismatched experiences and revelations(00:19:39) A fun play experience with two of our listeners(00:25:17) I found a new button! (00:28:10) Fun marital banter(00:29:09) Orgy swag and vampire tattoos(00:29:49) Marital communication and ‘loss of words’(00:31:47) Intro change-up outtakes(00:34:20) Sugar lips…stroke my ego…stay humble(00:37:53) Body shaming,  judgment, confidence and insecurity(00:40:50) Dressing for your bodytype(00:42:52) Podcast ‘celebrities’(00:46:27) FOMO and dirty martinis(00:48:06) She was like a little kid who wouldn’t stay in bed(00:50:26) She shredded a guitar on her clit(00:52:19) I had my dick flicked(00:55:01) Phone a friend(00:55:25) Those people are so friendly!(00:59:37) Soaking and docking(01:03:29) Ex bashing(01:06:34) We evolve and get better  (01:09:01) Zack’s microphone and Josie’s music box(01:10:41) Josie’s karaoke machine(01:11:25) A sneaky lube run (01:13:02) A Mexican Special(01:14:12) Going down with Two Plus Two with Elevated Fun(01:16:10) Josie’s elevator impression We'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com
• Ep 53: To Play or Not to Play: When and How to Shift Out of Neutral 24.12.2025 58mnt

  Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sit down to tackle a question nearly every lifestyle couple has wrestled with: how many dates does it really take to get to a “yes”?They talk through what it’s like meeting a couple for the first time—those moments when the chemistry is instant and the energy exchange makes the decision easy, and the more complicated scenarios where one partner is a clear “yes” while the other sits in a frustrating gray area of “neutral.” The hosts unpack what “neutral” really means, how to shift out of it with intention, and how to decide whether to move forward—or confidently say no.The conversation dives deep into the risks of playing when one partner is still neutral. What happens if the experience doesn’t go well? Could it lead to regret, resentment, or hesitation in future situations? They explore how neutral energy can impact not just the couple, but everyone involved in a play dynamic, and why “neutral” often isn’t neutral at all—it’s a need for more information, clarity, or context.They also challenge the idea that more dates always lead to better outcomes, discussing how too much time or too many vanilla-setting meetups can actually shift desire toward a “no.” The hosts share their frustrations with couples who need multiple dates before making a decision and contrast that with how lifestyle vacations—like the Bliss Cruise—can completely change expectations, timelines, and energy.If you’ve ever struggled with mismatched interest levels, decision fatigue, or figuring out when to lean in versus walk away, this episode offers honest insight, thoughtful reflection, and plenty of “we’ve been there” moments.JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(00:00:00) Too much ‘information’(00:04:19) Making decisions and finding common ground(00:10:17) Saying ‘yes’ when one partner is neutral(00:11:21) Sometimes one partner takes the lead(00:15:52) Gauging and communicating interest can be challenging(00:20:46) We are working on being more decisive and communicative(00:23:59) Determining the time and effort to invest in a couple(00:30:40) Relationships that stay vanilla too long can become awkward(00:32:30) Changing the context of a second meeting can be helpful(00:33:22) Situations where one partner is less interested than the other(00:36:00) Communicating during a session if one partner is not having fun(00:38:22) Lifestyle travel may change expectations(00:40:47) LS travel environments can also act as accelerant(00:44:13) European lifestyle clubs may inhibit verbal connection(00:48:44) Where are we at with this couple….really?(00:53:45) When the Two Plus Two Crew met for the first time(00:55:46) Shifting out of neutralWe'd love to connect with you!Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle!Available on the App Store and on Google Play.INVITE CODE: 2plus2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with Zack and Josie.Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at:mailto: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠