The Hurdle Rate Podcast
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Join Matt, Ben, Jeff, and Tim for an entertaining and informative weekly podcast cutting through conventional wisdom on Bitcoin, investing, and macroeconomics. Every Wednesday, this forward-thinking team delivers unique perspectives and innovative insights that challenge mainstream financial narratives, empowering listeners to make more independent decisions for their corporate or personal financial lives. Is Bitcoin your hurdle rate? New episodes every Wednesday!
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Podcasters Per Share | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 74 15.09.2026 1j 6mntThis week on The Hurdle Rate: Adam Livingston joins Strive as VP of Investments, Strategy buys back $139 million of STRC with stretch back near 99, and Strive adds 469 Bitcoin at an average cost of $77,954 while hitting an all-time high market cap of $2.75 billion. Jeff makes the case that trust is the real infrastructure of capital markets, and why Bitcoin makes that trust legible. We get into the Clarity Act, AI doomerism, and why the crew thinks the frontier labs are using fear to build a moat ahead of their IPOs. Matt takes macro with the 10-year touching 5%, what a short-term Bitcoin flush would actually look like, and why it would be the dream setup. We close with a capital markets recap and Strive's one-year anniversary. Here's the latest with Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, Ben Werkman, Adam Livingston, and Tim Kotzman. Follow us on X: https://x.com/HurdleRatePodAll episodes now live: https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ Timestamps:00:00 - Intro01:17 - Adam Livingston Joins Strive08:52 - Trust as Capital Markets Infrastructure19:48 - The Amplified Bitcoin Story and SATA22:44 - Building Through the Bear Market24:54 - An Outsider's View of Strive28:35 - The Clarity Act and Regulatory Trust36:23 - AI Doomerism and the Messy Middle45:03 - Don't Let the Ladder Get Pulled Up51:28 - Macro: The 10-Year Touches 5%55:27 - What a Bitcoin Flush Would Look Like1:01:46 - Capital Markets Recap True North does not intend for anything herein to be considered an offer or sale of any securities, including those of Strive. True North encourages listeners to consult with their tax and investment advisors. Additional information on any securities or issuers referenced herein can be found in such issuers’ filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”), including any registration statements, prospectuses and prospectus supplements for each issuers’ securities. Listeners should read such documents and other documents incorporated by reference therein or that such issuer has filed with the SEC for more complete information. You may get these documents for free by visiting EDGAR on the SEC website at [www.sec.gov](http://www.sec.gov).* Any securities referred to herein, including those of True North’s parent Strive, are not collateralized by underlying bitcoin holdings and may be subordinated to senior claims. There are no guarantee of returns liquidity or future performance. The securities referred to herein are neither bank deposits, nor FDIC insured, nor regulated in the same way, and do not have the same regulatory and other protections as bank accounts, money market funds, treasuries, or similar investments and as a result may not be comparable investments. Current trading prices and effective yields may vary, current rates are not indicative of future rates, and in some cases rates are subject to frequent adjustments and may be significantly lower than discussed herein. Cash dividends are not guaranteed. In some cases, dividends have not been paid and may not be paid in the future. Ownership of securities referred to in herein does not confer ownership in the underlying assets, including bitcoin. -
The Billion Dollar Wall | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 73 08.09.2026 1j 2mntIn this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew discusses SATA hitting $999 million outstanding, Strategy doubling its STRC repurchase facility to $2 billion, and Strive adding another 1,000+ Bitcoin. Ben breaks down the art and science of running the desk and why amplification stays on. Matt makes the case that we've never seen a bull market with a perpetual preferred model in place. We also get into executive comp and shareholder alignment, and close on macro: what happens if the 10-year breaks 7%. Here's the latest with Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, Ben Werkman, and Tim Kotzman. Timestamps:00:00 - Intro01:20 - SATA Nears $1 Billion07:10 - Strive's Flywheel and Amplification09:34 - Strategy's Push to Get STRC Back to 10012:12 - The Art and Science of Capital Markets15:33 - The First Bull Market With Perpetual Preferreds17:44 - ASST Volume Up 9.7x in Three Weeks20:00 - Competition and the Digital Gold Rush26:55 - What Saylor Is Really Like30:01 - Executive Comp and Shareholder Alignment48:21 - Macro: What If the 10-Year Hits 7%?59:22 - Private Credit Risk in Insurance True North does not intend for anything herein to be considered an offer or sale of any securities, including those of Strive. True North encourages listeners to consult with their tax and investment advisors. Additional information on any securities or issuers referenced herein can be found in such issuers’ filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”), including any registration statements, prospectuses and prospectus supplements for each issuers’ securities. Listeners should read such documents and other documents incorporated by reference therein or that such issuer has filed with the SEC for more complete information. You may get these documents for free by visiting EDGAR on the SEC website at [www.sec.gov](http://www.sec.gov).* Any securities referred to herein, including those of True North’s parent Strive, are not collateralized by underlying bitcoin holdings and may be subordinated to senior claims. There are no guarantee of returns liquidity or future performance. The securities referred to herein are neither bank deposits, nor FDIC insured, nor regulated in the same way, and do not have the same regulatory and other protections as bank accounts, money market funds, treasuries, or similar investments and as a result may not be comparable investments. Current trading prices and effective yields may vary, current rates are not indicative of future rates, and in some cases rates are subject to frequent adjustments and may be significantly lower than discussed herein. Cash dividends are not guaranteed. In some cases, dividends have not been paid and may not be paid in the future. Ownership of securities referred to in herein does not confer ownership in the underlying assets, including bitcoin. -
Building on Digital Credit | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 72 01.09.2026 1j 2mntIn this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew unpacks a market that has come roaring back to life, from Strategy returning as a Bitcoin buyer at 0% net leverage to Strive growing its stack 14.4% in two weeks to 23,156 Bitcoin. Jeff brings back lessons from Bitcoin Asia, where investors are building structured finance on top of Bitcoin and digital credit faster than the US, and we dig into why STRC hasn't snapped back to par, how amplification and liquidity have to be earned rather than dialed in, and why Strategy's balance sheet may be the most misunderstood credit story in the market. We then take on MSCI's proposed exclusion of digital asset treasury companies and why it would effectively make index providers investment advisers, before closing on macro: fiscal dominance, why long-end yields go higher whether the Fed hikes or cuts, and why this is a backdrop Bitcoin has never seen. Here's the latest with Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, Ben Werkman, and Tim Kotzman. Timestamps:00:00 - Intro02:29 - Lessons from Bitcoin Asia15:37 - Strive Grows to 23,156 Bitcoin17:44 - Strategy Returns as a Buyer19:22 - Why STRC Hasn't Hit Par23:28 - Strategy's Zero Net Leverage33:41 - The MSCI Fight47:07 - Macro: Jackson Hole and Yields53:29 - A Backdrop Bitcoin Has Never Seen59:44 - The Natural Rate on Long Bonds True North does not intend for anything herein to be considered an offer or sale of any securities, including those of Strive. True North encourages listeners to consult with their tax and investment advisors. Additional information on any securities or issuers referenced herein can be found in such issuers’ filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”), including any registration statements, prospectuses and prospectus supplements for each issuers’ securities. Listeners should read such documents and other documents incorporated by reference therein or that such issuer has filed with the SEC for more complete information. You may get these documents for free by visiting EDGAR on the SEC website at [www.sec.gov](http://www.sec.gov).* Any securities referred to herein, including those of True North’s parent Strive, are not collateralized by underlying bitcoin holdings and may be subordinated to senior claims. There are no guarantee of returns liquidity or future performance. The securities referred to herein are neither bank deposits, nor FDIC insured, nor regulated in the same way, and do not have the same regulatory and other protections as bank accounts, money market funds, treasuries, or similar investments and as a result may not be comparable investments. Current trading prices and effective yields may vary, current rates are not indicative of future rates, and in some cases rates are subject to frequent adjustments and may be significantly lower than discussed herein. Cash dividends are not guaranteed. In some cases, dividends have not been paid and may not be paid in the future. Ownership of securities referred to in herein does not confer ownership in the underlying assets, including bitcoin. -
Liquidity Is The Moat | Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 71 25.08.2026 51mnt -
Digital Credit Is The Product | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 70 18.08.2026 55mntIn this week’s Hurdle Rate, the crew reacts to Strategy’s latest investor Q&A and breaks down why the company is prioritizing STRC, building cash reserves, and treating Bitcoin as flexible capital. We dig into why Bitcoin has held firm despite Strategy selling, the Coldcard self-custody exploit, and broader market stress, and what that resilience could signal about the bear market. The conversation then turns to NVIDIA’s massive structured-finance deal, how the company is lending its balance sheet and creditworthiness to accelerate OpenAI’s infrastructure buildout, and what it reveals about the growing convergence of AI, credit, and capital markets. We close with OranjeBTC’s DIGY11 ETF and the expansion of Bitcoin-backed digital credit into Brazil. Here's the latest with Tim Kotzman, Matt Cole, Joe Burnett, and Ben Werkman. 0:00 - Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate2:26 - Strategy Q&A: Bitcoin and Digital Credit11:27 - Bitcoin Treasury Companies Face a Stress Test13:15 - Is Michael Saylor Buying High and Selling Low?17:00 - MSCI and Bitcoin Treasury Companies20:08 - Understanding Amplified Bitcoin Volatility30:45 - The Macro Backdrop and Bitcoin’s Next Move35:44 - NVIDIA’s Massive OpenAI Financing Deal53:11 - OranjeBTC’s DIGY11 ETFFollow us on X: https://x.com/HurdleRatePod All episodes now live: https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ True North does not intend for anything herein to be considered an offer or sale of any securities, including those of Strive. True North encourages listeners to consult with their tax and investment advisors. Additional information on any securities or issuers referenced herein can be found in such issuers’ filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”), including any registration statements, prospectuses and prospectus supplements for each issuers’ securities. Listeners should read such documents and other documents incorporated by reference therein or that such issuer has filed with the SEC for more complete information. You may get these documents for free by visiting EDGAR on the SEC website at [www.sec.gov](http://www.sec.gov).* Any securities referred to herein, including those of True North’s parent Strive, are not collateralized by underlying bitcoin holdings and may be subordinated to senior claims. There are no guarantee of returns liquidity or future performance. The securities referred to herein are neither bank deposits, nor FDIC insured, nor regulated in the same way, and do not have the same regulatory and other protections as bank accounts, money market funds, treasuries, or similar investments and as a result may not be comparable investments. Current trading prices and effective yields may vary, current rates are not indicative of future rates, and in some cases rates are subject to frequent adjustments and may be significantly lower than discussed herein. Cash dividends are not guaranteed. In some cases, dividends have not been paid and may not be paid in the future. Ownership of securities referred to in herein does not confer ownership in the underlying assets, including bitcoin. -
What's New With Strive? | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 69 10.08.2026 51mntIn this week’s Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down Strive’s Q2 results, including a 23.9% Bitcoin yield and how the company’s incentive structure supports its broader Bitcoin treasury strategy. We then turn to Strive’s refreshed website and redesigned Bitcoin Dashboard, exploring how the new tools improve transparency, make key treasury metrics easier to understand, and give investors a clearer view of the company’s performance. Here's the latest with Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, Ben Werkman, and Joe Burnett. Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate00:47 Strive’s Q2 Results05:52 The Redesigned Strive Website10:56 Treasury Dashboard Walkthrough50:11 Closing Thoughts True North does not intend for anything herein to be considered an offer or sale of any securities, including those of Strive. True North encourages listeners to consult with their tax and investment advisors. Additional information on any securities or issuers referenced herein can be found in such issuers’ filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”), including any registration statements, prospectuses and prospectus supplements for each issuers’ securities. Listeners should read such documents and other documents incorporated by reference therein or that such issuer has filed with the SEC for more complete information. You may get these documents for free by visiting EDGAR on the SEC website at [www.sec.gov](http://www.sec.gov).* Any securities referred to herein, including those of True North’s parent Strive, are not collateralized by underlying bitcoin holdings and may be subordinated to senior claims. There are no guarantee of returns liquidity or future performance. The securities referred to herein are neither bank deposits, nor FDIC insured, nor regulated in the same way, and do not have the same regulatory and other protections as bank accounts, money market funds, treasuries, or similar investments and as a result may not be comparable investments. Current trading prices and effective yields may vary, current rates are not indicative of future rates, and in some cases rates are subject to frequent adjustments and may be significantly lower than discussed herein. Cash dividends are not guaranteed. In some cases, dividends have not been paid and may not be paid in the future. Ownership of securities referred to in herein does not confer ownership in the underlying assets, including bitcoin. -
Look For The Helpers | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 68 04.08.2026 47mntIn this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down the Coldcard self custody exploit and how the Bitcoin community responded to it, before turning to what the event revealed about how few people understood the cryptography they were relying on. We dig into the yen hitting its weakest level in forty years and what a fragile treasury market means for everyone holding dollars, Strategy'sdecision to sell Bitcoin and build a cash reserve, and the game theory behind buybacks. We close with a deeper look at the traditional capital that is starting to fill gaps this market used to fill on its own. Here's the latest with Tim Kotzman, Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, and Ben Werkman. Timestamps00:00 - Welcome To The Hurdle Rate02:03 - The Weekend That Tested Self Custody03:34 - Look For The Helpers07:48 - Why A White Hat Could Not Have Saved This13:11 - A Humbling Event For The Whole Market17:09 - What People Did Not Understand About Cryptography20:58 - Bitcoin Recovers From The Drop23:24 - The Yen At Forty Year Lows28:38 - Who Actually Buys Treasuries Now33:48 - Fragile Markets And What Props Them Up36:42 - Strategy Sells Bitcoin And Builds Reserves41:33 - The Game Theory Of Buybacks42:37 - Traditional Capital Fills The Gap46:38 - What The Clarity Act Would Open Up Follow us on X: https://x.com/HurdleRatePodAll episodes now live: https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ -
We’re Playing For Trillions | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 67 31.07.2026 45mntEpisode 67: We’re Playing For Trillions In this week’s Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down Strategy’s Q2 2026 earnings call and its focus on returning STRC to par while building a trillion-dollar digital credit market. We explore why liquidity, simplicity, and preserving Bitcoin’s upside remain central to the strategy, along with the risks of borrowing against Bitcoin or using derivatives for short-term cash flow. Matt and Ben share lessons from meeting investors in Hong Kong, while Jeff explains how Strive is working to differentiate itself within the insurance industry. We close with a discussion on bringing Bitcoin to traditional institutions and the Federal Reserve’s shift away from heavy forward guidance. Here’s the latest with Tim Kotzman, Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, and Ben Werkman. Timestamps:00:00 - Welcome to The Hurdle Rate01:30 - Why Digital Credit Is a Trillion-Dollar Opportunity03:00 - Consolidating Liquidity Around STRC07:30 - Building an Ecosystem Around Digital Credit10:30 - Reading the Market and Maintaining the 12% Dividend13:30 - STRC, Short Interest, and Minimizing Volatility16:30 - The Risks of Borrowing and Derivative Strategies22:30 - MSTR’s Long-Term Leverage and Holding Period24:00 - Bringing Digital Credit to Hong Kong Investors30:00 - Why Strive Rejects the “DAT” Label33:00 - Strive’s Balance Sheet Growth Despite Bitcoin’s Decline34:30 - Bringing Bitcoin to Wall Street42:00 - Fed Policy and Kevin Warsh’s Communication Strategy45:00 - Closing Thoughts Follow us on X: https://x.com/HurdleRatePodAll episodes now live: https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ Disclaimer: The content in this video is for informational and educational purposes only and should not be considered financial advice. We are not financial advisors, and you should consult with a qualified professional before making any financial decisions. All investments involve risks, and you are responsible for your own decisions. True North does not intend for anything herein to be considered an offer or sale of any securities, including those of Strive. True North encourages listeners to consult with their tax and investment advisors. Additional information on any securities or issuers referenced herein can be found in such issuers’ filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”), including any registration statements, prospectuses and prospectus supplements for each issuers’ securities. Listeners should read such documents and other documents incorporated by reference therein or that such issuer has filed with the SEC for more complete information. You may get these documents for free by visiting EDGAR on the SEC website at [www.sec.gov](http://www.sec.gov).* Any securities referred to herein, including those of True North’s parent Strive, are not collateralized by underlying bitcoin holdings and may be subordinated to senior claims. There are no guarantee of returns liquidity or future performance. The securities referred to herein are neither bank deposits, nor FDIC insured, nor regulated in the same way, and do not have the same regulatory and other protections as bank accounts, money market funds, treasuries, or similar investments and as a result may not be comparable investments. Current trading prices and effective yields may vary, current rates are not indicative of future rates, and in some cases rates are subject to frequent adjustments and may be significantly lower than discussed herein. Cash dividends are not guaranteed. In some cases, dividends have not been paid and may not be paid in the future. Ownership of securities referred to in herein does not confer ownership in the underlying assets, including bitcoin. -
Episode 66: Social Investing 21.07.2026 59mntIn this week’s Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down the slow summer market and strategy's focus on building up its balance sheet to improve credit quality. We explore how Strategy and Strive are navigating macro uncertainty, steadying operations, and executing consistent Bitcoin buys through the summer doldrums. We also dig into the derivatives market, short interest dynamics for ASST and SATA, and how lending out shares ultimately impacts corporate dividend payments and tax treatment. We close with a broader discussion on structured finance, the emergence of AI agents in retail investing, and the long-term potential of building durable digital credit structures to onboard massive institutional capital into the Bitcoin era. Here’s the latest with Tim Kotzman, Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, and Ben Werkman. Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome Back to the Hurdle Rate11:09 – Trading Volumes: MSTR vs. IBIT12:33 – Analysis of Short Interest & Derivatives Markets16:04 – Tax Treatments for Lending Shares & Manufactured Dividends20:10 – Short Squeezes & Conserved Energy in Equities28:49 – Robinhood Retail AI Trading Agents30:00 – Deconstructing Chamath’s Crypto Tweet31:59 – Unlocking Institutional & Corporate Demand for Bitcoin32:52 – Private Credit Markets, Structured Finance & Insurers51:50 – Step Function Improvements in Leverage Solutions56:28 – Battle Testing Management Teams & Risk-First Approaches Follow us on X: https://x.com/HurdleRatePodAll episodes now live: https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ Disclaimer: The content in this video is for informational and educational purposes only and should not be considered financial advice. We are not financial advisors, and you should consult with a qualified professional before making any financial decisions. All investments involve risks, and you are responsible for your own decisions. True North does not intend for anything herein to be considered an offer or sale of any securities, including those of Strive. True North encourages listeners to consult with their tax and investment advisors. Additional information on any securities or issuers referenced herein can be found in such issuers’ filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”), including any registration statements, prospectuses and prospectus supplements for each issuers’ securities. Listeners should read such documents and other documents incorporated by reference therein or that such issuer has filed with the SEC for more complete information. You may get these documents for free by visiting EDGAR on the SEC website at [www.sec.gov](http://www.sec.gov).* Any securities referred to herein, including those of True North’s parent Strive, are not collateralized by underlying bitcoin holdings and may be subordinated to senior claims. There are no guarantee of returns liquidity or future performance. The securities referred to herein are neither bank deposits, nor FDIC insured, nor regulated in the same way, and do not have the same regulatory and other protections as bank accounts, money market funds, treasuries, or similar investments and as a result may not be comparable investments. Current trading prices and effective yields may vary, current rates are not indicative of future rates, and in some cases rates are subject to frequent adjustments and may be significantly lower than discussed herein. Cash dividends are not guaranteed. In some cases, dividends have not been paid and may not be paid in the future. Ownership of securities referred to in herein does not confer ownership in the underlying assets, including bitcoin. -
Episode 65: Shifting Institutional 14.07.2026 58mntShifting Institutional | The Hurdle Rate Podcast | Ep. 65 In this week’s Hurdle Rate, the crew opens with updates from Strategy, Strive, and the digital credit market before recapping the major developments from Q2. We cover Strategy’s growing cash reserve, market feedback, and the evolution of Bitcoin-backed credit. We also explore institutional adoption, structured products, AI, intellectual property, and the limits of government intervention in the debt crisis. We close it off with thoughts on outdated financial systems and Bitcoin’s expanding role in traditional capital markets. Here’s the latest with Tim Kotzman, Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, and Ben Werkman. Time Stamps: 0:00 Welcome to The Hurdle Rate 5:19 Digital Credit During Quiet Markets 8:01 Strategy Rebuilds Its Cash Reserve 11:51 Market Uncertainty And Bullish Catalysts 17:21 STRC And Convertible Debt 19:37 AI, The Fed, And Protecting IP 24:14 The U.S. Debt Crisis 31:39 Bitcoin-Backed Institutional Credit 35:30 Building Structured Bitcoin Products 43:12 Growing Institutional Bitcoin Interest 48:02 Stablecoins And Outdated Settlements 53:05 Bitcoin Stewardship And Constructive Engagement 58:29 Closing Thoughts Follow us on X: https://x.com/HurdleRatePod All episodes now live: https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ Disclaimer: The content in this video is for informational and educational purposes only and should not be considered financial advice. We are not financial advisors, and you should consult with a qualified professional before making any financial decisions. All investments involve risks, and you are responsible for your own decisions. True North does not intend for anything herein to be considered an offer or sale of any securities, including those of Strive. True North encourages listeners to consult with their tax and investment advisors. Additional information on any securities or issuers referenced herein can be found in such issuers’ filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”), including any registration statements, prospectuses and prospectus supplements for each issuers’ securities. Listeners should read such documents and other documents incorporated by reference therein or that such issuer has filed with the SEC for more complete information. You may get these documents for free by visiting EDGAR on the SEC website at [www.sec.gov](http://www.sec.gov).* Any securities referred to herein, including those of True North’s parent Strive, are not collateralized by underlying bitcoin holdings and may be subordinated to senior claims. There are no guarantee of returns liquidity or future performance. The securities referred to herein are neither bank deposits, nor FDIC insured, nor regulated in the same way, and do not have the same regulatory and other protections as bank accounts, money market funds, treasuries, or similar investments and as a result may not be comparable investments. Current trading prices and effective yields may vary, current rates are not indicative of future rates, and in some cases rates are subject to frequent adjustments and may be significantly lower than discussed herein. Cash dividends are not guaranteed. In some cases, dividends have not been paid and may not be paid in the future. Ownership of securities referred to in herein does not confer ownership in the underlying assets, including bitcoin. -
Episode 64: Building The Track Record 07.07.2026 45mntEpisode 64: Building The Track RecordIn this week’s Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down Strategy’s sale of Bitcoin to fund dividend payments and why the market’s reaction may signal growing confidence in Bitcoin as a liquid capital asset. We explore how Strategy and Strive are using balance sheet management, digital credit, and capital markets access to keep their models moving through volatility. We also dig into SATA’s short interest, the idea of a “controlled burn,” and how Strive is thinking about protecting shareholders while allowing the market to function. We close with a broader discussion on patience, positioning, and building durable structures in the Bitcoin capital markets era. Here's the latest with Tim Kotzman, Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, and Ben Werkman. Time Stamps:00:00 Welcome to the Hurdle Rate03:20 Why Selling Bitcoin Helps STRC Confidence05:37 Matt Cole on Strategy’s Long-Term Move09:05 Bitcoin Absorbs the Sale13:53 Bitcoin Liquidity Compared to Real Estate17:29 Why the Model Still Works Without Capital Markets19:03 Bitcoin CAGR + Balance Sheet Strength23:14 Strive’s Dividend Math Compared to Strategy27:40 SATA Short Interest + “Controlled Burn”34:20 Jeff Explains Controlled Burns and Wildfire Incentives41:56 Why Strive May Let SATA Trade Freely44:05 Patience, Positioning, and Market Discipline45:07 Closing Thoughts -
Episode 63: The Digital Credit Capital Framework 30.06.2026 1j 14mntEpisode 63: The Digital Credit Capital FrameworkIn this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew opens with the latest on digital credit volatility and the broader market backdrop, before digging into Strategy's capital framework and how management is navigating stress in the system. The conversation turns to institutional behavior, the realities of managing a cash balance sheet, and the dynamics of leverage and short interest within digital credit. We unpack high yield investing perspectives, what resilience and company DNA actually look like in this market, and the specific investor protections built into SATA. We close with reflections on what it takes to build durable structures in the digital credit era. -
Episode 62: Digital Credit Weakness 22.06.2026 53mntEpisode 62: Digital Credit WeaknessFull episodes: https://tnorth.com/hurdle-rate/In this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down the mechanics of volatility and liquidation events, before turning to shifting investor behavior and how markets react to sudden liquidations. We dig into how digital credit stacks up against traditional financial instruments, the innovations shaping the future of the lending landscape, and what it takes for protocols to remain resilient in brutal bear markets. We close with a deeper look at the Federal Reserve, the opinions surrounding Kevin Warsh, and why navigating economic uncertainty requires a unique strategy for the anticipated super cycle ahead.Here’s the latest with Tim Kotzman, Matt Cole, Jeff Walton, and Ben Werkman.00:00 - Welcome To The Hurdle Rate06:24 - Analyzing Volatility and Liquidation Events11:28 - Understanding Market Reactions and Investor Behavior17:23 - Comparing Digital Credit to Traditional Financial Instruments22:11 - The Future of Digital Credit and Market Innovations30:52 - Resilience in Bear Markets36:07 - Opinions on Kevin Warsh and the Fed41:48 - Navigating Economic Uncertainty51:53 - Optimism for a Super Cycle -
Episode 61: What’s Your Time Preference? 16.06.2026 52mntIn this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down the latest corporate Bitcoin market activity and Strive's growing Bitcoin holdings, before turning to Strategy's Bitcoin sale and what the balance sheet math actually reveals about risk and permanent impairment. We dig into historical bear market scenarios, how to manage amplification ratios, and the product management and demand dynamics shaping the treasury company landscape. We close with a deeper look at what digital credit actually is, and why it matters for the road ahead.Full episodes: https://tnorth.com/hurdle-rateTimestamps00:00 Welcome to the Hurdle Rate Podcast01:44 Market Acceleration and USD Reserves06:04 Holistic Capital Structure Strategy12:20 Designing Long-Term Capital Vehicles17:21 Analyzing Recent Bitcoin Flows18:11 SpaceX IPO and Major Capital Events29:18 Bitcoin on Institutional Balance Sheets36:51 Takeaways from Bitcoin Prague41:20 Onboarding New Investors via Digital Credit -
Episode 60: The Math of Amplification 02.06.2026 50mntEpisode 60: The Math of AmplificationIn this week's Hurdle Rate, the crew breaks down the latest corporate Bitcoin market activity and Strive's growing Bitcoin holdings, before turning to Strategy's Bitcoin sale and what the balance sheet math actually reveals about risk and permanent impairment. We dig into historical bear market scenarios, how to manage amplification ratios, and the product management and demand dynamics shaping the treasury company landscape. We close with a deeper look at what digital credit actually is and why it matters for the road ahead.00:00 - Welcome To The Hurdle Rate 00:50 - Corporate Bitcoin Market Activity 2:42 - Strive's Bitcoin Holdings Update 04:41 - Market Transparency And Liquidity 13:11 - Strategy Sells Bitcoin: Balance Sheet Analysis 18:01 - Risk And Permanent Impairment 19:59 - Historical Bear Market Scenarios 27:36 - Managing Amplification Ratios 40:15 - Product Management And Demand 45:32 - Defining Digital Credit -
Episode 59: Scale Like Crazy 27.05.2026 47mntEpisode 59: Scale Like Crazy 0:00 - Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate 1:08 - Jeff’s Podcast Circuit & Strategy Retires Debt 21:27 - Strive’s Big Week 32:42 - Strategy’s Retail Q&A 41:29 - Kevin Warsh is The New Fed Chair -
Episode 58: Exponential Innovation 19.05.2026 54mntEpisode 58: Exponential Innovation 0:00 - Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate 1:30 - Strive: The Daily Dividend Company 5:32 - Ringing The Opening Bell at Nasdaq 23:50 - How Strive Paid Off Its Debt 27:00 - How Big Is This Idea? 41:21 - The Infrastructure Behind The Scenes 47:00 - How Bitcoin Will Be Involved In Strive’s FutureAll episodes are posted on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR9Q6w9zyf_KS2ujrzhoLyAAll episodes are hosted on https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ -
Episode 57: The Answer Is Trillions 06.05.2026 54mntEpisode 57: The Answer Is TrillionsAll episodes live here: https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ 0:00 - Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate 3:02 - MSTR Earnings Call Reaction 25:22 - Is Digital Credit Too Good to Be True? 42:16 - FDIC & Monetary Risk -
Episode 56: The User Experience 21.04.2026 53mntEpisode 56: The User ExperienceAll episodes live here: https://tnorth.com/shows/hurdle-rate/ 0:00 - Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate 2:20 - Strategy Flips BlackRock 20:58 - Is The Tokenized Ecosystem Completely Useless? 30:13 - AI Tools & Revamping Portfolios 45:55 - Schwab Education -
Episode 55: A Structural Shift 14.04.2026 50mntEpisode 55: A Structural Shift[00:00:00] Welcome Back to The Hurdle Rate[00:01:30] Digital Credit’s Big Month[00:18:05] Capital Flows[00:26:50] Rethinking Credit[00:42:37] The End of the 60/40 Portfolio
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