The Skip Podcast
Nikhyl Singhal
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The Skip podcast helps tech professionals advance their careers. Hosted by Nikhyl Singhal, a three-time founder and former product executive at Meta and Google, the show shares insights from his experience scaling products like Facebook and Google Photos. He now runs Skip Coach, a career service, and has coached hundreds of product leaders. Subscribe for career advice distilled from real coaching conversations.
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How Meta Is Reinventing Product Management 24.06.2026 1val 2minMeta is one of the biggest dinosaurs in the park, yet in a matter of months it rebuilt PM top to bottom, and almost none of it was bought. My guest is Jagjit Chawla, a VP of Product at Meta who’s running a growing share of the Facebook app: Feed, Reels, and more recently Search. I worked alongside Jagjit for nearly ten years across Google, Credit Karma, and Meta, and almost nothing is as I remember it. These systems were built by the teams themselves, sometimes in a single evening, on tools you already have. Jagjit walks me through how a product org of a few thousand people learned to move like a startup again.Key topics:• Inside Meta’s “no-meeting week” that set the org loose on the tools• The one job AI can't take: influencing other humans• Why the PMs winning on Jagjit’s team aren't engineers• What to do when you’re the bottleneck• How to become an "AI captain"• Triaging tens of thousands of bug reports with agents that validate and pre-write the fix• Why letting AI write code made site incidents spike, and how Meta clamped down• Building a morning brief that flags the decisions only you can make• Why the management "compression algorithm" is dead and what replaced itTimestamps:00:00 Introduction05:47 Why the biggest change is pace07:29 From detailed PRDs to a paragraph, a prototype, and an eval set09:32 Why the management "compression algorithm" is dead10:37 Visibility is high, but synthesis is scarce14:45 "Finding a scissor" when you don't have fancy tools16:10 A morning brief that flags the decisions only you can make22:37 When the agent quietly drops your source links25:53 The one job AI can't take: influencing other humans30:18 Getting an analyst's answer in five minutes, not 24 hours33:33 Three ways AI changed the products, not just the process37:25 Why letting AI write code made site incidents spike40:39 The no-meeting week and the birth of "AI captains"44:55 The world's largest Jenga game: why institutional knowledge wins48:41 Why economics and physics PhDs are "out-PMing" engineers52:14 Ideas and agency before tools56:19 "AI lowers the floor and raises the ceiling"58:40 Closing advice: once you taste it, you can't go backBrought to you by:• Glean—Work AI that works• Framer—Design and build your website effortlessly with Framer AgentsReferenced:• Claude Code• Credit Karma• Facebook• Ferrari• Gmail• Google• Google Chat• Google Drive• Indian Premier League (IPL)• Instagram• Meta• Porsche• Prince of Persia• TikTok• Workplace from Meta• ZoomWhere to find Nikhyl:• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Jagjit:• LinkedInJoin The Skip:• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip:• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. Access exclusive sessions from 100+ top product leaders at skip.coach. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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5 Career Questions Your Old Playbook Can’t Answer 10.06.2026 1val 8minIn today's episode, we work through five questions from leaders in the Skip community who are doing well by any measure: a director whose career keeps ending in short stints despite strong performance, a manager whose top performer turned adversarial, an exec fielding multiple outsized offers, a PM who does her best work with a great manager, and a first-time manager whose first report is more experienced than they are. In each case, the old playbook can't answer the real question.Key topics:• The "layoff merry-go-round": why short stints compound and what it actually takes to break the cycle• Why the decision to found should only stay on the table if you're obsessed with a specific problem — not just bullish on AI• How a sponsor-to-manager dynamic turns adversarial• "Every superpower comes with a shadow", and what that means for the manager who created the monster• Why some management relationships reach a graduation, and how to recognize when you're there• The mercenary vs. missionary question: and why the person asking usually already knows their answer• Why senior product leaders should remove "great manager" from their job search criteria entirely• The pretzel framework: how to identify the culture where you have to “bend yourself” the least• Why being "safe" as a manager matters more than matching your direct report's experience levelReferenced:• Anthropic• ChatGPT• Claude• Copilot• Facebook• Google• MetaDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. Access exclusive sessions from 100+ top product leaders at skip.coach. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.communityBrought to you by:• Glean—Work AI that works• Guru—Trusted knowledge for every AI tool and teamWhere to find Nikhyl:• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Carly:• LinkedInJoin The Skip:• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip:• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps:00:00 Introduction03:32 Finding the question behind the question06:00 The director with three short stints weighing their next option07:17 Breaking out of the "layoff merry-go-round"14:37 Why founding should only stay on the table if you're truly obsessed17:18 The manager whose top performer turned adversarial18:41 How the sponsor-to-manager collision actually happens24:48 "Every superpower comes with a shadow"25:30 Why some management relationships reach a graduation35:02 The exec fielding multiple offers and the question underneath41:27 How to know you've earned the right to seek balance46:50 Remove "great manager" from your job search checklist51:17 The pretzel framework: find the culture where you bend least57:20 The new manager whose first direct report is more experienced than them58:25 Why being "safe" matters more than matching your report's credentials1:02:40 "I don't need a bigger version of myself" This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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10 Job-Search Rules That Just Broke 20.05.2026 59minIn this episode, I sit down with three senior product leaders who just came through the senior job search in this market: Dana Ingraham from Harvey, Briana Ings from Atlassian, and Pei-Chin Wang, who’s founding her own company. While the search itself continues to be exhausting, I was surprised to learn that everything else has changed: the playbook is completely out of date, in at least ten different ways. All three reported feeling something I’ve started calling smiling exhaustion: working hard, going long, and surprised by how good it feels. If you're a senior leader, sitting in a stable role debating a move, weighing how you can ride the AI shift, or quietly wondering if founding finally belongs on your career path, this conversation is for you.Key topics:• How AI agents have flipped the first year at a new role from headwind to tailwind, and are even bringing joy to the first year of a new role• The new founding math: fast, fun, and skill-additive, with a much lower downside than it used to be• How to navigate the job search when you don’t live in San Francisco—and remote jobs are dwindling• Why structured AI learning is the wrong move, and what to build instead, so your fluency is hard to fake• How to signal hard boundaries to a new boss, and differentiate between real respect and performative virtue-signalling• Why holding your professional identity loosely matters when the role of senior leader is getting reformatted in real timeReferenced:• Airbnb: https://www.airbnb.com/• Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com• Claude Code: https://claude.com/product/claude-code• Harvey: https://www.harvey.ai• Loom: https://www.loom.com• Modern Animal: https://themodernanimal.comBrought to you by:• Guru—Trusted knowledge for every AI tool and team: https://www.getguru.com/?utm_source=the-skip&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=skip-promo• Customer.io—The customer engagement platform for human messaging: http://customer.io/skipWhere to find Nikhyl• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Dana• LinkedInWhere to find Briana• LinkedInWhere to find Pei-Chin• LinkedInJoin The Skip• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps:00:00 Introduction04:08 Welcome, and why this is the second job-search postmortem05:50 Meet Dana, Briana, and Pei-Chin06:15 What the "smiling exhaustion" state is09:58 Three career transitions, three different triggers15:26 Has founding become a must-have on the modern career path?17:09 Why "AI company" doesn't need to be a hard filter21:43 The new founding math: Three-month traction windows and "everyone codes"26:16 How AI agents flipped onboarding from headwind to tailwind31:33 How to navigate the decline of remote-friendly roles36:27 Setting hard family boundaries in the 996-company era40:47 How proactive do senior leaders need to be to build their role pipeline?43:10 Standing out to recruiters when your CV lacks traditional experience47:43 Discovering Claude Code: "I felt like a sorcerer"53:21 Why structured AI learning isn't necessary57:21 When your resume doesn't fit the pattern, teach the interviewer58:48 Closing wisdom: hold your identity loosely This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The product skill you must now master: Reinvention 29.04.2026 43minIf you're in a career transition right now and wondering whether you did something wrong, you didn't. Every question coming into Nikhyl.AI keeps circling the same idea: do I really have to reinvent? In today’s episode, Carly and I dive into four questions, from people in very different scenarios: A senior PM who feels her career’s gone backwards, an IC5 at a FAANG anchored by immigration constraints, a 50-year-old veteran a year into a job search, and a mid-career operator convinced he's hit a dead end. Each of them feels behind. None of them are. The whole industry is in a state of reinvention — if they'd reinvented five years ago, they'd be reinventing again today.Key topics:• Why the first stage of any transition is mourning, and why most people get stuck there• The builder vs. manager divide: why "capital-P Product Managers" are thriving and "capital-M product Managers" are not• Why proving to yourself and others that you’re a builder is the currency that keeps you alive in the next round of layoffs• The uncanny valley of mid-to-late-career PMs and how you can climb out of it• Why coaching, consulting, and advisory roles are shrinking careers in a world of rapidly-improving LLMs• The “double-jump” job search strategy and why you should stop optimizing for the 10-year role• How you can turn a non-PM background into a superpower with AI and product skillsWhere to find NikhylTwitter/XLinkedInWhere to find CarlyLinkedInJoin The SkipSkip CoachSkip CommunityFind The SkipWebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple PodcastsTimestamps:00:00 Introduction00:40 You're not behind, you're right on time03:23 The senior PM who stepped backwards and lost her identity04:36 Why "you're in mourning" is the first thing to say out loud08:38 Builder vs. capital-M Manager: who the industry is actually hiring12:28 The IC5 at a FAANG, the immigration clock, and infrastructure work13:31 Why last year's "suck it up" advice stopped working18:30 If you have builder instincts, you need to make sure people know about it20:02 Navigating layoff season: Who should be worried and who should relax23:02 The ageism reframe: Why a beginner's mentality beats pedigree25:47 The 50-year-old veteran caught between coaching and "a real job"27:29 Why coaching isn't a durable career in the LLM era28:51 The "double jump" job-search strategy: get back in motion first33:12 The mid-career operator who's convinced he's hit a dead end35:30 Why being "non-technical" is no longer a blocker in 202636:09 How to reframe breadth of experience to form a power combination39:03 "You didn't defer reinvention. You waited until now."42:27 Embracing reinvention: First, mourn — then get back into motion This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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What PM Hiring Managers Actually Screen For 15.04.2026 56minMost interview advice tends to come from the candidate’s perspective - how to prep, share your experiences, and follow up. This conversation pulls back the curtain on the other side of the table. I spoke with hiring leaders from Netflix, Rippling, and EvenUp to learn how three great, yet operationally-different companies evaluate candidates. Surprisingly, all three leaders agreed on one core truth: most candidates are operating from a playbook that’s two years out of date. AI has upended the job-search landscape: old signals are table stakes, and the goal posts have changed.Key topics:• The new PM: Why companies are looking for candidates who “push the limits of what’s possible”• The shift from behavioral to scenario-based questions• Does pedigree still matter? Why trajectory is the new alternative signal for recruiters• The three things that now separate a great take-home case study submission from a generic one• Why case study presentations are still valuable - and help demonstrate core PM skills• Whether website applications actually get looked at and why referrals are more binary than most people think• How to signal drive and a frontier-pushing mindset when everyone claims to be a high performerWhere to find Nikhyl• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find McKenzie• LinkedInWhere to find Sam• LinkedInWhere to find Sarah• LinkedInJoin The Skip• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps00:48 Introduction 04:12 Meet our guests from EvenUp, Rippling, and Netflix09:06 How has the hiring process changed since COVID?11:17 Is AI fluency explicitly tested in interviews?12:42 Why quality and speed are favored over prioritization ability16:16 Past experience vs. scenario questions—where the balance is shifting19:52 Does pedigree still matter to hiring managers?23:10 Why trajectory is an underrated signal to index on26:43 Why the LinkedIn DM isn't dead29:31 Does the take-home case study still hold value in the AI era?33:21 Using case studies to screen for brevity, agency, and strategic thinking39:09 Rippling's product discussion and panel case study process43:52 Unpacking red flags in case study presentations45:43 The collaboration test: curiosity vs. defensiveness under pressure47:56 How to get noticed — are website applications even worth it?50:56 Where EvenUp proactively sources candidates53:00 Closing advice for mid-career PMs navigating today's job marketDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. Access exclusive sessions from 100+ top product leaders at skip.coach. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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How to Navigate Org Drama 01.04.2026 1val 6minWork getting political isn't new, but surviving it without derailing your career has never been more challenging. As organizations flatten and restructures accelerate, the instincts that used to work — push back, demand clarity, make noise — often backfire. In this episode, we answer five questions from people caught in reorgs, managing-up dynamics, and situations where the "obvious" move turns out to be the wrong one.Key topics• What to do when leadership goes dark, and you can't tell if a reorg is coming• The stay-vs-go framework: when brand matters, when comp overrides it, and why short tenures are more common than most people think• The one question that puts your manager in an impossible position• How to navigate an underperforming direct manager• Why acting before a restructure is announced gives you a head start• How to build the relationships you'll need on a rainy day before you actually need them• What happens when VP sponsorship and calibration approval still aren't enough to get promoted• How to start fresh on a new team when you're leaving a dysfunctional one behind• The five-point playbook for navigating office politics without getting swept into themReferences:• Claude: https://www.claude.ai• Floodgate: https://www.floodgate.com• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com• Meta: https://www.meta.com• OpenAI: https://www.openai.comBrought to you by• Framer—Build websites with enterprise needs at startup speeds: https://framer.link/dFacxBQ• Customer.io—The customer engagement platform for human messaging: http://customer.io/skipWhere to find Nikhyl• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Carly:• LinkedIn• She Leads Podcast• Twitter/XJoin The Skip• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps:00:00 Introduction03:18 Why organizational politics are so top of mind04:59 “Everything’s changing, and no one’s telling me anything”06:35 The two common reasons behind radio silence12:41 Tough conversations shouldn’t be your first conversations15:05 Why confrontation isn’t always the answer17:35 Avoid putting your manager in a defensive position22:12 Why role tenure is more malleable than you think26:18 When a company reorg shifts you into a new role29:55 How modern is your skillset?33:57 How to identify whether burnout is worth it40:03 Is the cost of your ambition future regret?45:12 How to deal with an underperforming manager55:23 Leaving a dysfunctional team for a new one59:14 Drive impact first, talk long-term goals second1:02:06 Why managers respond positively to specific goalsDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. Access exclusive sessions from 100+ top product leaders at skip.coach. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The Post-IPO PM Playbook Is Being Rewritten 18.03.2026 57minMost of the conversation about rebuilding product management comes from two ends of the spectrum: AI-first startups with 30 people and no real installed base, or big tech with thousands of PMs and decades of process. This episode is about the third category: companies that went public in the last few years, have real customers and revenue to protect, and are now trying to move like startups again. The CPOs of Hims & Hers, Rubrik, and Figma joined me to discuss what that actually looks like. Several of their findings directly contradict the advice you'd get from either end of the spectrum.Key topics• Why going public doesn't mean replacing your PM team with "business people"• Why AI makes PM workload explode, not shrink• What happens when engineering is no longer the bottleneck• The skill Figma values most at scale (and why speed is the wrong thing to optimize for)• Whether the IPO date is a real line in the sand—and why Yuhki and Anneka land in different places• Why AI adoption at post-IPO companies requires the CPO to go first• How Anneka wrote her team's Claude Code onboarding guide, opened the GitHub repos, and built a triage agent between meetings• Why Dheerja joined Hims & Hers as the "AI Queen"• Dheerja’s three-part AI framework she’s executing on• Why Yuhki hired AI veterans first—then immediately hired people with no AI background at all• The case against take-homes (and Anneka's idea for what should replace them)• What a blank canvas reveals about a PM candidate that no case study or behavioral question can• Why every PM is about to become a manager of agents• How to talk to your team when the stock is down and you haven't announced anything new• Why Figma deprecated annual planning—and what Yuhki thinks will become core PM work within a yearWhere to find Nikhyl• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Anneka• LinkedInWhere to find Dheerja• LinkedInWhere to find Yuhki• LinkedInJoin The Skip• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps(00:00) Anneka on leading from the top: visibly & vulnerably(00:45) Intro: three CPOs, one inflection point(05:53) How PM accountability shifts from startup to post-IPO(07:24) The GM model: when PMs own P&L, not just product metrics(10:54) Hiring systems thinkers over feature builders(15:08) Where AI is actually moving the needle in enterprise B2B(20:37) The three components of AI transformation(24:13) How going public changes perception management at Figma(27:00) Navigating stock drops and keeping teams focused(30:30) Creating space for AI learning when the team is already maxed(35:12) 3 steps to seeding AI teams(40:03) How everyone is becoming a manager of agents(44:34) Yuhki on resourcefulness and the blank canvas take-home(47:40) Dheerja: go an hour deep on one real decision in the interview(50:56) Why live pair Claude Code sessions is the future of PM interviews(53:13) Predictions for 2026 and beyond(55:34) Why it’s the best time in history to be a PMDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. Access exclusive sessions from 100+ top product leaders at skip.coach. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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Three Job Searches, Three AI Roles: What Actually Worked 04.03.2026 1val 1minMost job search advice comes from people still in the thick of it—anxious, second-guessing, pattern-matching off too little data. This episode is different. We sat down with three product leaders who recently landed roles at Netflix, OpenAI, and Abridge, and did a full postmortem. What they shared upends a lot of conventional wisdom: the spray-and-pray pipeline doesn't work, your AI credentials matter less than you think, and the relationships that land jobs are often years in the making.Key topics• Why you need curiosity, not experience• The "AI hungry" mindset: searching for environments that match your learning goals, not just your resume• Why the best job search intelligence comes from people who just landed, not people still looking• Why prototypes are now table stakes in take-homes• How Janie built a shortlist of 5–10 companies in a week of 50–60 conversations• Why Ben's Netflix role traces back to a cold application seven years ago• What OpenAI's interview process actually looks like—and why it's less about the past than you expect• Why most AI-native jobs aren't posted, and how to land them• How to use investor attention as a proxy for company quality• Why Ben's early interview mistake (not enough AI mindset) became the fuel for his take-homeBrought to you by• Framer—Build websites with enterprise needs at startup speeds: https://framer.link/dFacxBQ• Dust—The operating system for AI agents: https://dust.tt/skipWhere to find Nikhyl• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Ben• LinkedInWhere to find Janie• LinkedInWhere to find Julia• LinkedInJoin The Skip• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps(00:00) How to prove your AI credentials(04:42) Introducing the three product leaders(06:00) Ben Dreier: from DoorDash to Netflix, the "AI hungry" move(08:18) Julia Roberts: nine years at Pinterest, six months off, then OpenAI(12:46) Janie Lee: going all-in on AI native at Abridge(15:26) How to build a shortlist: 50–60 conversations in a week(18:10) Ben's process: VC signals and insider conversations over job boards(21:45) Cold outreach that actually works(23:51) Ben: how curiosity, not networking, built his network(25:14) Julia's different path: cold applies, inbound, and exec recruiters(27:06) What exec recruiters are actually useful for(30:30) Ben's Netflix backstory — tracing back to a cold apply seven years ago(34:06) Staying connected with recruiters, coworkers, and people who said no(41:10) What the OpenAI interview process actually looks like(44:55) Authentic storytelling(46:40) The Netflix take-home: how mid-process feedback became a turning point(51:40) Janie: how to ace take-homes by using AI(57:52) Julia’s final takeaway: know what you want before you search(59:03) Ben’s final takeaway: follow the fun and genuine curiosity(59:56) Janie’s final takeaway: high agency, high effort, put yourself in their shoesDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. Access exclusive sessions from 100+ top product leaders at skip.coach. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The Promotion Mistakes That Derail PM Careers 18.02.2026 52minIt's promo season, and I've gotten roughly 1000 questions through nikhyl.ai—the pattern is unmistakable: people aren't just asking how to get promoted, they're asking whether the system is broken and whether they should quit over it. In this episode, we dissect five real questions from PMs who've been passed over. What becomes clear is the mistakes aren't in execution—they're in how people think about promotions in the first place. The tough reality is promotions are harder to get in this market. The question isn't whether you'll get promoted. It's how you respond when you don't.Key topics• Why promotions are harder now—and why that's not dysfunction• The five-point framework for what to do when you don't get promoted• The self-fulfilling prophecy that derails your career• The one question that changes everything when you're passed over• Why treating promotion as a game to win backfires• The Peter Principle: why companies make you prove it before they promote you• When "my career has flatlined" actually means you've hit the expected difficulty curve• Why the skills that got you here won't get you there• Why leadership might not be your destination—and that's okay• The feedback gap: why your manager says you're great but leadership won't promote you• Why leaving gas in the tank puts your career at risk• Why you work for the company, not your manager• What to do when your skip starts building a case against youBrought to you by:• Framer—Build websites with enterprise needs at startup speeds: https://framer.link/dFacxBQ• Dust—The operating system for AI agents: https://dust.tt/skipWhere to find Nikhyl:• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Carly:• LinkedIn• She Leads Podcast• Twitter/XJoin The Skip:• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip:• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps(00:00) Why you're not being promoted(03:42) Why promo season brings more angst than any other time of year(04:57) Question 1: L5 at Google denied promotion twice—is this organizational dysfunction?(06:22) Why assuming your company is broken becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy(09:50) What to do when there's literally no next-level job in your location(11:45) Question 2: Six years at my company, seven rounds of interviews—still passed over for Executive Director(14:06) The Peter Principle: why companies make you demonstrate next-level skills first(17:18) Why promotion as a game to win is dangerous thinking(21:12) When you've hit the ceiling—and that might be okay(24:41) What to avoid when being passed over(26:48) Question 3: I'm on track for promotion but political meetings drain my energy(27:57) When the next level isn't for you—finding companies where leadership looks different(32:11) Question 4: Three years since my last promotion to PPM—has my career flatlined?(32:58) Why the IC-to-leader skill gap takes years to close(35:50) The soft skills problem: leadership presence can't be taught in a class(36:56) Question 5: My skip is suddenly giving me feedback my manager never mentioned(38:42) Why you should never leave gas in the tank(43:30) You work for the company, not your manager—why that matters(45:25) The five biggest mistakes to avoid when you don't get promotedDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. Access exclusive sessions from 100+ top product leaders at skip.coach. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The PM Career Framework for AI (Part 3): AI Labs to Founding 08.01.2026 1val 25minThe "join a hot company" narrative gets even more complicated once you enter the AI-native part of the market. In Part 3 of our PM Career Framework for AI series, we close out with the doors everyone's obsessing over: AI labs, hot AI startups, ex-growth companies, and founding.We unpack what these companies actually look for (spoiler: it's not "AI experience"), why hands-on builders win over managers, how location and pace become make-or-break constraints, and how to think about risk and chaos when the upside is real.If you're trying to figure out whether you should stay put in 2026, or make the leap into the AI frontier, this episode breaks down the tradeoffs.Key topics• What AI labs are really hiring for (and why "productized research" is the core skill)• Why AI labs want radically hands-on PMs, not managers• Why Big Tech experience can become "inside-the-building skills" that don't translate• Which companies expect 9-9-6 culture, and the self-selection problem it creates• Why some struggling-company VP roles are still worth taking• When equity becomes a psychological trap (and when to cut losses)• Why remote leadership roles are rapidly disappearing• The founder litmus test: why it's an emotional decision, not a spreadsheet decision• The upside of founding even when it fails: the career story compounding effectWhere to find other the parts of this series:• Part 1: https://theskip.substack.com/p/the-pm-career-framework-for-ai-how• Part 2: https://theskip.substack.com/p/the-pm-career-framework-for-ai-partWhere to find Nikhyl:• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Carly:• LinkedIn• She Leads Podcast• Twitter/XJoin The Skip:• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip:• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps(00:58) The “doors” framework: building a personal stack rank for AI(04:57) The “productized research” skill: turning magic into product(08:29) Why AI labs want hands-on builders, not managers(15:00) Does AI domain expertise matter?(19:14) Location constraints: The SF requirement for PM roles(21:39) The Atlassian → OpenAI decision: Upending everything for the skip job(30:16) Inside the high pace at AI Labs(32:00) Hot AI Startups: the IC role that’s a step forward(39:12) The 9-9-6 Reality: who's actually doing it(41:59) The power years problem: Gender, biology, and self-selection(46:13) The brand value of hot AI startups(48:32) When equity becomes a psychological trap (and when to cut losses)(54:12) Why some struggling-company VP roles are still worth taking(58:53) Why remote leadership roles are declining(63:10) The ex-growth equity risk: Why your compensation might never materialize(65:24) Choosing between YC offer vs AI lab internship vs college(73:41) The founder litmus test: why it's an emotional decision, not a spreadsheet decision(80:24) When to join vs found(82:31) Constraints + doors = your personalized career advice This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The PM Career Framework for AI (Part 2): The Large Tech Playbook 11.12.2025 1val 8minThe “join a hot company” career narrative is getting a lot of PMs into trouble. In Part 2 of our PM Career Framework for AI series, we get practical: how to pick the door that fits you — and spot when a prestigious logo is quietly costing you career momentum. We break down nearly 600 listener questions, then map the first set of doors, from Big Tech and public enterprise to the “quality middle” of elite private companies and recent IPOs.Key topics• The “doors” framework: building a personal stack rank• Golden handcuffs: when staying in Big Tech is rational• Why L7+ doesn’t translate to startups or AI labs• The “step down” that’s actually a level up• How to know if you’re a fit for AI-native companies• Debunking the myth of “coasting” in Big Tech• Why APM programs can be the fastest way to learn the craft• The stay/leave test: can you produce a career story?• Who is suited to public enterprise tech• The “quality middle” sweet spotWhat’s next (Part 3):Next episode, we assess the doors everyone’s obsessing over: AI labs (OpenAI / Anthropic), hot AI startups, ex-growth mid-stage companies, and founding. We will also cover why the rules change dramatically once you move into the AI-native part of the market.Where to find Nikhyl:Twitter/XLinkedInWhere to find Carly:LinkedInShe Leads PodcastTwitter/XJoin The Skip:Skip CoachSkip CommunityFind The Skip:WebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple PodcastsTimestamps(00:46) The “doors” framework: building a personal stack rank(11:50) Golden handcuffs: when staying in Big Tech is rational(17:12) Why promotion often doesn’t translate to your next job(19:29) The “step down” that’s actually a level up: from learning to teaching(22:55) How to upgrade your product intuition without quitting your job(26:23) The Big Tech fit test: why some builders struggle (and some thrive)(31:03) Early-career exception: why APM programs can accelerate you(34:26) Career stories: opinion → ship → impact → learning (and how to collect them)(39:17) Public enterprise tech: when stability + liquidity is the smart move(42:30) The hard question: are you unlucky, or are you the problem?(48:44) If your company is behind on AI: be the change agent or move on?(53:49) The “quality middle” sweet spot: elite teams, near-liquidity, durable brands(57:55) Domain expertise vs “chasing AI”: where you’ll have the most impact(62:17) Builder vs fixer: choosing the work you’re actually signing up for(65:03) Key takeaways + what’s coming in Part 3Don't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The PM career framework for AI 11.11.2025 1val 12minThe old PM career playbook doesn’t work in the AI era. In this episode of The Skip, we lay out a new career framework for product managers, and it’s a lot more “choose your door” than “climb the ladder.” If you’re wondering whether to stay in big tech, jump to an AI startup, double down as a builder, or rethink your whole path, this one’s for you. We talk about why your hard-won product intuition is quietly becoming obsolete, why some ex-VPs are happily taking senior IC roles, and how to prepare for what’s coming next.Key topics• Why your product intuition is outdated — and how to “go back to school” without quitting your job• Why company quality now matters more than your title, comp band, or level• What elite AI companies are actually looking for in PMs• The builder vs factory mindset: are you obsessed with the product, or with the machine that ships it?• How to choose between Big Tech, hot AI startups, healthy growth companies, or founding• A three-part reality check on constraints: compensation, location, and pace• The truth about 9–9–6 and AI startups: when extreme pace is worth it, and when it’s just branding• Why “coasting” in big tech is mostly a myth• Remote vs hub tradeoffs: what you gain and lose by moving to SF or NYC• Why this is Part 1 — and what we’ll go deeper on next in the PM Career Framework for AI seriesWhere to find Nikhyl:• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Carly:• LinkedIn• She Leads Podcast• Twitter/XJoin The Skip:• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip:• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsTimestamps(00:53) Why the PM career framework needs to be rewritten for AI(03:35) Why ex-VPs are happily taking senior IC roles(06:07) Why your current product intuition is becoming obsolete(11:46) Why AI-first companies only want hands-on PMs(14:40) How to choose between Big Tech, AI startups, growth companies, or founding(18:06) How to actually upgrade your product intuition on the job(25:13) What’s really happening with PM compensation in 2025(33:46) Why true AI startups are rarely remote-first(42:42) What 9–9–6 culture at AI companies actually looks like(50:52) The myth of work–life balance in growth environments(55:40) The builder vs factory mindset(60:29) Are you obsessed with the product or the factory that ships it?(67:11) The key takeaway for PMs making career moves in 2025Don't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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Why your career playbook expired: The new rules for 2025 job transitions 04.09.2025 1val 2minCareer ladders aren't just changing—they're being demolished and rebuilt in real-time. In this emergency "weather report," Carly and I decode four career dilemmas that have completely flipped in the last six months. We explain why directors are taking IC roles (and thriving), why your Big Tech salary might be a golden trap, when to finally leave that stalled growth company, and why founding is suddenly on everyone's radar. If you're making any career move in 2025, your old playbook will hurt more than help.The New Career Math:• Why senior IC roles now trump management positions—and when stepping down is stepping up• The Big Tech paradox: 3x market comp but career stagnation (what's your breaking point?)• Ex-growth company reality: Why staying another month makes things worse• The founding surge: Why 8x more product leaders are starting companiesWhat's Actually Happening:• How AI and flat orgs killed the traditional ladder (and what replaced it)• What elite companies want now: hands-on builders, not ivory tower managers• The talent gravity effect: Why your coworkers matter more than your title• The "elite middle" strategy: Which companies offer both growth and stabilityYour Action Plan:• How to evaluate if you're becoming obsolete (and what to do about it)• The unnatural acts worth taking (hint: it involves a pay cut)• Six-month forecast: Where the opportunities will be and who will winTimestamps:(03:45) The rise of Super ICs(07:59) Why IC roles are considered premium(18:56) “I work at Google: should I stay, or should I go?”(27:05) How Nikhyl gives career advice to tech leaders(31:12) What are startups hiring for?(37:10) Why are more people leaving ex-growth companies?(42:21) Advice for choosing the right company to join(46:24) You need to work with great talent(48:21) How to navigate the wealth of career options(52:37) The career trap you need to avoid(56:29) Should you found a company?(59:09) Nikhyl’s forecast for the next six monthsWhere to find Nikhyl:• Twitter/X• LinkedInWhere to find Carly:• LinkedIn• She Leads Podcast• Twitter/XJoin The Skip:• Skip Coach• Skip CommunityFind The Skip:• Website• Substack• YouTube• Spotify• Apple PodcastsDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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Graduating Into Uncertainty? How to Actually Land Your First Tech Job 09.07.2025 1val 6minIn this episode, I’m joined by my co-host Carly Malatskey to share the early-career playbook most people wish they had at 21. Whether you're fresh out of college, navigating your first job, or advising someone who is — this episode is for you.–Key topics• Why your first job should feel like a sprint, not a stroll• How to tell if your job is setting you up — or holding you back• The truth about internships (they matter more than your degree)• How to stand out when applying — and why “spray and pray” fails• Why it’s okay (even smart) to view your first job as a stepping stone• Red flags and green flags once you’re hired• How to network in a way that doesn’t feel transactional• The mindset shift that separates top performers early in career• Why working in-person still gives you an edge• How to take real risks when you have the least to lose–Where to find Nikhyl:Twitter/XLinkedIn–Where to find Carly:LinkedInShe Leads PodcastTwitter/X–Join The Skip:Skip CoachSkip Community–Find The Skip:WebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple Podcasts–Don't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community–Timestamps(00:00) Why most grads feel lost — and what to do about it(01:44) How to navigate the 2025 job market(03:29) Why hustle still wins (yes, even now)(08:24) What to really look for in your first job(15:03) Why seeking feedback is a career unlock(17:30) Choose your boss — not the logo(20:02) Why taking risks early pays off later(28:35) How to tell a compelling career story(32:15) Job hunting that actually works(37:38) Making the leap from college to career(42:18) Why you should work while studying(46:13) How to maintain a network(55:10) Green flags and red flags once you’re hired(58:55) Your first job is a launchpad — not a life sentence(63:12) Final advice we wish we heard at 21 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The Mentor's Superpower: Pattern Recognition That Unlocks Careers 19.05.2025 1val 19minIn this episode, I’m joined by my co-host Carly Malatskey, a former software engineer turned entrepreneur and host of She Leads. Through 6 listener questions, we break down how mentors spot patterns others miss, and how you can use that insight to unlock your next move. Whether you're leading a team, switching paths, or just feeling off, this episode is packed with tactical advice for unlocking your career.–Key topics6 common patterns holding leaders backHow mentors can spot them, and what advice to giveBreaking through organizational barriersWhy smart people still get stuckNavigating change vs. waiting it outThriving in early-stage chaosWhy strong reviews don’t always lead to promotionTaking leadership roles before you feel readyFinding—and becoming—a great mentorHow to ask better questions and get better advice–Where to find Carly:LinkedInShe Leads PodcastTwitter/X–Where to find Nikhyl:Twitter/XLinkedIn–Find The Skip:WebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple Podcasts–Don't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community–Timestamps(00:00) How to spot patterns(01:08) How to find and then become a mentor(10:57) Scaling mentorship(15:09) How to heat seek around patterns(21:47) Question 1: How can I break through organizational barriers?(22:29) Pattern 1: Are you actually stuck?(30:05) Question 2: How can busy leaders stay technically up to date?(30:28) Pattern 2: If you know what you should do, why aren’t you doing it?(42:48) Question 3: How to navigate change?(40:56) Pattern 3: Do you need to work on this problem, or just wait it out?(52:23) Question 4: How normal is chaos in early stage companies?(52:54) Pattern 4: Broken might be normal, and you were hired to solve problems(61:07) Question 5: My performance reviews are excellent, but why am I not being promoted?(61:41) Pattern 5: Are you growing faster than the company?(67:35) Question 6: Should I take a leadership role that I don’t feel ready for?(68:29) Pattern 6: Are you too humble or negative?(73:23) Key takeaways and summary(77:57) How to get in touch with Nikhyl This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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Super Shadows | When Strengths Limit Growth 26.03.2025 1val 4minIn this episode, I’m joined by my co-host Carly Malatskey, a former software engineer turned entrepreneur and host of She Leads. We tackle a listener’s career dilemma: feeling stuck and unsure how to adapt to shifting expectations. Using a structured approach, we break down when to make a change, how to advocate for yourself, and how to evolve without losing what makes you successful. Whether you’re navigating subtle shifts or considering a big move, this episode helps you own your superpower—and the shadow that comes with it.–Key topicsThe unseen influence of Super ShadowsWhy past success won’t fuel future growthBreaking free from career stagnationThe power of self-advocacyHow top leaders seek feedbackIdentifying what actually needs to changeMuch more–Where to find Carly:LinkedInShe Leads PodcastTwitter/X–Where to find Nikhyl:Twitter/XLinkedIn–Find The Skip:WebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple Podcasts–Don't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community–Timestamps(00:00) How your superpower can stall career growth(01:11) Show format(02:45) Listener question: Navigating a quiet career crisis(06:40) How to break free from feeling stuck at work(11:35) The case for self-advocacy in your career(16:36) Why past success won’t fuel future growth(19:48) Super Shadows: What they are and why they matter(30:46) When it’s time to confront your shadow(37:53) The risks of ignoring your shadow(40:56) How great leaders seek feedback(47:07) Pinpointing what actually needs to change(55:57) A strategy for sustainable career growth(57:04) Why change has to happen on the job(58:19) A real-world example from Nikhyl’s offsite(61:28) Key takeaways and final thoughts This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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Should you Stay or Go? A 5-factor framework for career-defining decisions 27.02.2025 50minIn this episode, I’m joined by my co-host Carly Malatskey, a former software engineer turned investor and podcast host of She Leads. We tackle a listener’s question about whether to stay in their current job or take a new one. Using a 5-factor framework, we break down how to evaluate career decisions based on compensation, skills, lifestyle, long-term success, and work environment. Whether you’re considering a career move now or just want a structured way to assess future opportunities, this episode offers a practical guide to making confident job decisions.–Key topics:The Stay vs. Go framework for career decisionsHow to assess if your job is career additiveBalancing comp, skills, and lifestyle in job choicesThe probability of success matters in career movesHow long you should stay before making a switchAnd much more–Where to find Carly:LinkedInShe Leads PodcastTwitter/X–Where to find Nikhyl:Twitter/XLinkedIn–Find The Skip:WebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple Podcasts–Don't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community–Timestamps(00:00) The 5-factor framework(01:20) Mailbag question: “Should I stay or go?”(03:38) Is your job career additive?(09:52) Why tenure matters less for some people(15:51) Framework overview(17:21) How to think about compensation(21:28) Fishing for outlier comp offers(23:54) Don’t just optimize for comp(25:46) What skills are you picking up(30:09) How esoteric are your skills(32:37) Weighing up lifestyle(36:56) What’s the probability you will succeed?(42:03) Think about the environment you thrive in(44:54) Final advice This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The Insider's Guide to Tech Compensation, Negotiation, and Career Growth 30.01.2025 55minIn this episode, I’m joined by my co-host Carly Malatskey, a former software engineer turned investor and podcast host of She Leads. We dive into a listener's question about multiple tech job offers, and compare three compensation packages. We break down tactics for negotiating comp while exploring how to pick a role that aligns with your superpower. Whether you're actively job hunting or looking to understand tech compensation better, this episode offers practical insights for making informed career decisions.–Key topics:Why chasing comp early hurts career growthComparing job offersBreaking down key components of total compEnsuring you can exercise your sharesWhen and how to discuss salary expectationsMuch more–Referenced:Tech compensation: Beyond the offer letter–Where to find Carly:LinkedInShe Leads PodcastTwitter/X–Where to find Nikhyl:Twitter/XLinkedIn–Find The Skip:WebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple PodcastsTikTok–Don't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.community–Timestamps(00:00) Tactic for negotiating comp(01:54) Unpacking the mailbag format(03:09) Three job offers: which one should I take?(06:02) Understanding bonus structures(09:32) Why equity still matters today(17:38) Breaking the equity exit trap(25:29) Equity versus your market rate(30:37) Don't chase comp early on(34:12) Aligning the role to your superpower(37:47) Negotiating comp: Start with what matters most(47:30) When to discuss salary(51:49) Problems with averaged comp This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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The Widening Tech Career Divide: Big vs Small Tech 10.01.2025 57minIn this episode, I’m joined by Carly Malatskey, an engineer-turned-investor and podcast host of She Leads. We dive into one of the most important career questions in tech today: Should you work in big tech or small tech, or found your own company? With the rise of AI and new economic conditions, these choices have never been more different. We break down how industry dynamics have changed, the tradeoffs associated with each path, and some exercises for determining the best fit for you.-Key topics:How AI is reshaping the tech job marketThe (under-appreciated) differences between big tech and small techHow PM and engineering roles have changedHow to assess your potential as a founderWhat your worries reveal about your ideal work environment-Referenced:Carly’s podcast: https://www.sheleadspod.com/Ready to start a startup?: https://www.skip.show/ready-to-start-a-startup-shreyas-doshi-former-pm-leader-at-stripe-twitter-google/-Where to find Carly:LinkedInShe Leads PodcastTwitter/X-Where to find Nikhyl:LinkedInTwitter/XThreads-Where to find The Skip:WebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple PodcastsTikTok-Don't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter.-Timestamps:(00:00) Teaser: Big tech vs small tech: Should you do both?(00:35) Intro(03:15) Why this discussion matters(05:06) The biggest change in tech during 2024(08:20) Why everyone should consider being a founder(10:14) How to assess your potential as a founder(14:44) How PM & engineering changed in 2024(23:06) The all-important differences between big and small tech(28:55) Assessing your fit for big vs small tech(36:18) The challenges and benefits of working at both scales(42:31) Do the best PMs work in big tech?(52:17) Who this advice doesn't apply to(54:56) Key takeaways(56:33) Get in touch with Nikhyl This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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Ready to start a startup? | Shreyas Doshi (Former PM leader at Stripe, Twitter, Google) 18.11.2024 1val 6minI'm joined by product leader turned founder Shreyas Doshi to discuss the founder's journey and when starting a company might be the right move for you. We challenge common startup wisdom and explore why traditional career advice often misses the mark for aspiring founders.Key topics:Which PMs are secretly great founder materialRed flags: when founding isn't for youThe right time to start your companyKey skills that set you up for successThriving in ambiguityDebunking the "venture scale or bust" mindsetThe counterintuitive way to avoid burnoutMuch moreReferenced:4 questions Shreyas wished he’d asked himself sooner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atS060bNpE0&t=698sAvoiding burnout for high achievers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iwymgai-ZMCrafting a compelling career story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Reh9wTUIYc&t=928sImproving your product sense: https://maven.com/shreyas-doshi/product-senseIs my next job at a startup or big tech?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H59CRHQ6va0&t=2053sManaging your PM career in 2025 and beyond: https://maven.com/shreyas-doshi/product-management-career?utm_source=lennyNikhyl’s career advice highlights at Lenny’s Summit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rujK7HvD6es&t=124sStage of Company: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H59CRHQ6va0&t=2053sWhere to find Shreyas:Twitter/XLinkedInYouTubeWhere to find Nikhyl:Twitter/XLinkedInFind The Skip:WebsiteSubstackYouTubeSpotifyApple PodcastsTikTokDon't forget to subscribe to The Skip to hear me coach you through timely career lessons. If you’re interested in joining me on a future call, send me a note on LinkedIn, Threads, or Twitter. You can also email me at nikhyl@skip.communityTimestamps(00:00) Teaser: Why average PMs can make great founders(01:17) Introduction(02:34) The essential first step before founding(06:21) Successful founder traits(10:48) Managing at scale vs managing uncertainty(18:25) Thriving in ambiguity(21:29) Red flags: when founding isn't for you(23:34) The surprising link between average PMs and founding success(25:51) Building better product sense(29:35) The right time to start your company(37:03) Beyond venture scale: rethinking startup success(44:26) A guide to avoiding burnout(49:23) The real truth about big tech working hours(52:27) Why taking a "demotion" might be a good move(58:45) Learn more: Shreyas' Product Sense course(63:15) Key takeaways(65:22) Get in touch with Nikhyl This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theskip.substack.com
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