The Art of Relationships Podcast
Biola University Center for Marriage and Relationships
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The Art of Relationships Podcast is hosted by Chris Grace, Ph.D., and his wife, Alisa Grace. They discuss how to build healthy relationships and marriages, offering practical insights for everyday issues. The show covers relationships with roommates, parents, friends, and significant others. It is produced by the Biola University Center for Marriage and Relationships, which combines Scripture with scholarly research and tools.
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When You Don’t Match: Is Something Wrong With Us? 23.09.2026 41minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace explore what it means when you and your spouse do not always see the world the same way. They discuss why compatibility does not mean sameness, how differences can trigger deeper insecurities, and why conflict often feels threatening when the stakes seem high. Through practical examples involving money, parenting, social preferences, and faith, Chris and Alisa explain how humility, grace, and honest communication can help couples stop trying to change ea... -
Answering Your Burning Questions about Marriage 09.09.2026 34minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace are joined by Tatum Munivez to answer some of the burning marriage questions couples are really asking. From keeping physical intimacy alive when you're exhausted to navigating disagreement, reconnecting when your marriage feels distant, setting healthy boundaries with difficult in-laws, and building a more Christ-centered home, they tackle real challenges that can show up in every season of marriage. Chris and Alisa share practical, biblical wisdom for ... -
You Weren’t Meant to Follow Jesus Alone: The Power of Biblical Discipleship 26.08.2026 45minIn this episode, Chris Grace is joined by psychology student Patrick Flanigan to explore the power of biblical discipleship and why following Jesus was never meant to be a solo journey. Together, they unpack the difference between mentorship and discipleship and what it looks like to intentionally walk alongside someone in their faith. They discuss why discipleship requires honesty, vulnerability, and a willingness to be inconvenienced for others. They also explore how having someone further ... -
The 7-Year Drift: How to Protect Your Marriage Before It's Too Late 12.08.2026 42minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace sit down with licensed professional counselor and marriage ministry leader Dr. Genee Francis to explore marital drift—the slow, often unnoticed loss of connection that can happen even in strong, committed marriages. They discuss why couples begin to feel emotionally disconnected, how communication struggles can actually point to a deeper loss of intimacy, and how different seasons of life can gradually pull spouses apart. Dr. Francis shares practical way... -
What We Wish We Knew Before College 29.07.2026 39minIn this episode, Rachel Pestana and Tatum Munivez share what they wish they had known before starting college. Drawing from their own experiences as recent graduates, they offer practical encouragement for navigating one of life's biggest transitions. From building meaningful friendships and navigating dating to handling homesickness, connecting with professors, choosing a major, and growing into adulthood, they provide honest advice to help students approach college with confidence and grace... -
Answering Your Burning Questions about Dating 15.07.2026 52minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace answer some of the most common (and most honest) dating questions submitted by attendees at the Biola Couples Conference. From navigating physical, emotional, and spiritual boundaries to figuring out compatibility, alone time, conflict, and preparing for marriage, they offer biblical wisdom and practical guidance for every stage of dating. They discuss how to distinguish healthy attraction from lust, why intentional boundaries matter, how to recover afte... -
When Trust Was Rebuilt: Tony & Lymari's Recovery Story (Part 2) 01.07.2026 30minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace continue their conversation with Tony and Lymari Navarro as they share the powerful second half of their story of healing after infidelity. This episode explores what it actually takes to rebuild trust, restore intimacy, and create a stronger marriage through God's grace. Tony and Lymari discuss the importance of laying a new foundation rooted in Scripture, embracing the "messy middle" of recovery, finding the right support, celebrating small victories, ... -
When Trust Was Broken: Tony & Lymari's Infidelity Story (Part 1) 17.06.2026 37minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace sit down with marriage coaches, speakers, and authors Tony and Lymari Navarro to hear the first part of their powerful story of betrayal, broken trust, and the beginning of restoration. Tony and Lymari share how their relationship began, their journey to faith, and the challenges they faced as young believers trying to build a marriage without healthy models or examples. As their family grew, unresolved wounds, unhealthy communication patterns, and emoti... -
The Do’s and Dont’s of Breaking Up 03.06.2026 36minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace explore the do’s and don’ts of breaking up well. They discuss how to end a relationship with honesty, kindness, and maturity, while avoiding common mistakes like ghosting, giving false hope, or staying in unhealthy contact after the breakup. They also share practical guidance for navigating the emotional aftermath, processing grief, and seeking God's wisdom throughout the process. Whether you're considering a breakup, recovering from one, or supporting s... -
The Psychology of Whirlwind Romances 20.05.2026 37minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace explore the psychology behind whirlwind romances: relationships that move quickly with intense passion and early commitment, but often lack deep emotional intimacy. They discuss Robert Sternberg’s triangular theory of love, highlighting how passion and commitment can create the illusion of a strong relationship when intimacy hasn’t had time to develop. They unpack key signs of a whirlwind romance, like instant chemistry, rapid emotional closeness, ... -
Marriage Without Passion: The Psychology of Companionate Love 06.05.2026 33minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace explore what happens when marriages lose passion and shift into what psychologists call companionate love. They discuss the difference between intimacy, commitment, and passion using Sternberg’s Triangular Theory of Love, why many couples begin to feel more like roommates over time, and the common reasons passion fades—like busyness, lack of curiosity, and taking one another for granted. They also share practical ways to reignite passion, including small... -
The Psychology of Situationships 22.04.2026 48minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace explore the psychology of situationships—relationships marked by emotional connection and romantic involvement but lacking clear commitment or definition. They discuss how situationships differ from casual hookups and traditional dating, using Robert Sternberg’s Triangular Theory of Love to explain how intimacy and passion without commitment can lead to confusion and instability. They also unpack common signs of situationships, why they’ve become more co... -
Your Relationships Are Only as Strong as Your Skills with Debra Fileta 08.04.2026 45minIn this episode, Chris Grace welcomes licensed counselor and author Debra Fileta to explore why healthy relationships depend on strong people skills. They discuss the common assumption that we’re good with people, the impact of technology and distraction on connection, and how self-awareness, ownership, and intentional conversation can transform our relationships. Debra shares practical insights on going deeper in conversations, recognizing emotional filters, repairing relational ruptures, an... -
The Postgrad Trenches 25.03.2026 39minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace’s staff members, Tatum Munivez and Rachel Pestana, explore the challenges of navigating life after college in “The Postgrad Trenches.” They discuss key transitions like moving back home, starting a new job, relocating to a new city, shifting friendships, unmet expectations, and the pressure to have life figured out. Drawing from their own real-life experiences, they provide practical insights and encouragement to help you navigate uncertainty, build new ... -
What No One Told You About Sex 11.03.2026 49minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace are joined by Amanda Courvoisier, PsyD, to explore what many people were never taught about sex, intimacy, and expectations in relationships. Amanda holds a Psy.D. in Clinical Psychology and an M.A. from the Rosemead School of Psychology at Biola University and is an ABCST Sex Therapy Associate under consultation. Together, they discuss the gap between cultural messages and healthy, biblical perspectives on sex, common misconceptions about sexual intimac... -
Marriage Doesn’t Have to Be This Hard 25.02.2026 55minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace sit down with James and Arlene Pellicane to explore how marriage can actually become easier—not harder—over time. Drawing from 27 years of marriage, ministry, parenting, and hard-won wisdom, they unpack what it looks like to build a relationship that thrives for the long haul. They discuss practical tools for healthy communication (including how to address tone and conflict without defensiveness), what to do when you disagree on big decisions, the import... -
How Forgiveness Heals What Trauma Breaks with Dr. Matt Williams 11.02.2026 58minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace explore the powerful and often misunderstood topic of forgiveness—and how it differs from reconciliation. Joined by Dr. Matt Williams, professor of New Testament at Biola University, they unpack the biblical, emotional, relational, and spiritual realities of forgiveness and why unforgiveness can become a significant barrier to healing and freedom. They discuss common misconceptions about forgiveness, the impact of trauma and abuse, and why forgiving some... -
How To Find Your People 28.01.2026 38minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace explore why we were created for community and why finding meaningful, Christ-centered friendships in adulthood can feel so challenging. They discuss the biblical foundation for friendship, common barriers like unrealistic expectations, fear of vulnerability, life transitions, and past hurts, and what healthy, God-honoring friendships actually look like. Throughout the conversation, they offer practical wisdom on taking initiative, building trust over tim... -
The Marriage Habit: 10 Simple Practices to Build a More Intentional, Thriving Relationship 14.01.2026 57minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace sit down with Casey and Meygan Caston, founders of Marriage 365, to explore how small, consistent habits can radically transform a marriage. Drawing from their own near-divorce story and their new book, The Marriage Habit, they discuss how thriving marriages are built not on perfection or big breakthroughs, but on intentional daily practices rooted in curiosity, gratitude, humility, and grace. Throughout the conversation, they unpack several of the ten h... -
How to Support a Friend Who is Hurting 31.12.2025 33minIn this episode, Chris and Alisa Grace explore how to support a friend who is hurting—whether they’re grieving a loss, facing illness, walking through heartbreak, or feeling overwhelmed by life’s pressures. They discuss the importance of being present, listening without trying to fix the problem, validating a friend’s experience, and offering practical help in meaningful ways. Throughout the conversation, they share personal stories and real-life examples that highlight what helps—and what ca...
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