There Will Be Dancing
Women's Environmental Leadership Australia
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There Will Be Dancing is a podcast from Women’s Environmental Leadership Australia (WELA) that amplifies the voices of women and gender-diverse changemakers working for climate and environmental action. The show weaves together personal stories, creative contributions, and thoughtful conversations, emphasizing that leadership can be hopeful, collaborative, and deeply human. Taking its name from the idea that movements for change must leave room for joy, it features both experienced leaders and emerging voices challenging outdated norms.
Epizodes
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Don't Sign Anything you Don't Understand with Robyn James 03.06.2026 54minWhat happens when communities are handed the information they have been quietly denied? How do you do equitable work inside a movement that often assumes its own goodness? And what does it look like to keep going when the global tide on women's rights and climate justice feels like it has just turned? In this episode of There Will Be Dancing, Victoria, Odette and Sanaya sit down with Robyn James, the former Global Director of Gender Equity at the Nature Conservancy and one of the most respect...
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Storytelling for Social Change with Natalie Kyriacou 18.05.2026 59minCan a story change the way we see nature? Can humour do what doom cannot? And what happens when we finally start telling the stories of the women, the weirdos, and the wildlife the world has long overlooked? In this episode of There Will Be Dancing, Victoria, Odette and Sanaya sit down with award-winning environmentalist, author and founder of My Green World, Natalie Kyriacou OAM. A national ambassador for the Australian Conservation Foundation and a Forbes 30 Under 30 honouree, Natalie has s...
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Voices that Move Movements with Holly Rankin (Jack River) 04.05.2026 1hCan a song shift a system? Can grief become fuel for social change? In this episode of There Will Be Dancing, Victoria, Odette and Sanaya sit down with Holly Rankin, the artist, activist and organiser better known to many as the musician Jack River. Holly has spent over a decade making music that lingers, building festivals that gather a generation, and using her platform to push for political and social change in Australia. Together, they explore the power of art and music to move movements:...
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Caring for Country with Sarah Eccles 20.04.2026 54minWhat would it take to truly protect Country, not just in words, but in law? And what might change if we learned to listen to the oldest knowledge systems on this continent? In this episode of There Will Be Dancing, Victoria, Odette and Sanaya catch up with special guest Sarah Eccles: co-CEO of the Wadawurrung Traditional Owners Aboriginal Corporation (WTOAC) and a leader whose work sits at the intersection of culture, Country, and climate. As co-CEO, Sarah helps steward a growing organisation...
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Under the Sea with Yolanda Waters 07.04.2026 47minWhat would it take to make the climate movement as diverse as the country it's trying to protect — and what are we missing if we don't? In this episode of There Will Be Dancing, Victoria, Odette and Sanaya sit down with special guest Yolanda Waters — founder of Divers for Climate Action, PhD researcher in marine social science and a rising voice at the intersection of ocean conservation, climate communication and cultural inclusion. Yolanda's path to ocean advocacy began not with a lifelong l...
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People-Centred Solutions with Sharan Burrow AC 23.03.2026 48minWhat does it take to create real, lasting change, and who needs to be at the centre of it? In this episode of There Will Be Dancing, Victoria, Odette and Sanaya sit down with special guest Sharan Burrow AC—global advocate, former General Secretary of the International Trade Union Confederation, and one of the most influential voices in climate and labour justice. Sharan has spent decades working at the intersection of workers’ rights, climate action, and global policy. Her approach is grounde...
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Imperfect Environmentalism with Kathryn Nelson 09.03.2026 1h 4minWhat makes for a perfect environmentalist? Does it even exist? For our third episode of There Will Be Dancing, Odette and Victoria explore this question with special guest Kathryn Nelson (aka the ‘Plastic Free Mermaid’), author of I Quit Plastics. Kathryn's work is a blend of playfulness and protest; she’s created countless DIY beauty and skincare recipes, petitioned local governments, and has recently become a mother. Kathryn has garnered quite a following, and remains open...
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Youth Led Activism with Anjali Sharma 09.03.2026 48minThe world is in danger, and the youth are fighting to save it. At just 16, Anjali Sharma stood in a federal court arguing that the Australian government had a duty to protect future generations from climate change. Now at 21, Anjali joins hosts Sanaya, Odette, and Victoria to speak candidly about carrying responsibility young, navigating racism and scrutiny, and reframing age, gender and identity not as barriers, but as a reason to lead. Anjali is the perfect guest for our t...
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Looking Back with Kelly O'Shanassy 09.03.2026 1h 2minWelcome everyone, to our very first episode of There Will Be Dancing. We’re so thrilled to share this new project with you, brought to you by Women's Environmental Leadership Australia (WELA). We designed the podcast to amplify the voices and leadership of women and gender-diverse changemakers working for our climate and environment. Taking its name from the idea that revolutions should leave room for joy, the podcast weaves together personal stories, expert insights, and fresh perspect...
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