Church Planter Podcast

CPP #645 - The Naturally Supernatural, and the Super-supernatural 15.06.2026 52min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell put on the tinfoil hats and talk through aliens, AI, faith, science, and why none of it has to shake a biblical view of the world.The conversation moves from UFO files and government disclosures to C.S. Lewis, quantum physics, angels, demons, creation, evolution, and the way people interpret evidence based on the assumptions they already bring to it. Peyton and Pete wrestle with why Christians don’t need to panic every time a new headline claims it will “change the way we read the Bible.”Instead, they point leaders back to a grounded faith that can think clearly, ask honest questions, and stay rooted in Scripture while engaging the strange and confusing conversations happening in culture.If you’re a church planter trying to lead people through a world of AI-generated content, conspiracy theories, spiritual confusion, and big questions about reality, this episode will help you think with more clarity and confidence.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching. Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #644 - From Addition to Multiplication 08.06.2026 39min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk about why most churches never multiply—and why the issue usually starts long before a church is ready to plant again.Peyton explains that churches can do a lot of things right and still fail to multiply if they are not mobilizing people on mission. Instead of building everything around Sunday gatherings, leaders need to slow down, invest in people, call out gifts, and help everyday believers take real steps into disciple-making.The conversation unpacks the difference between addition and multiplication, why mobilization has to come first, and how pastors can begin creating a culture where people are equipped, sent, and ready to lead others.If you want your church to move beyond gathering people and start multiplying disciples, this episode will help you focus on what matters most.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Simplify Church: simplifychurch.comNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #643 - On The Mandalorian and Grogu 01.06.2026 49min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell are joined by Luke Mitchell for a special pop-culture episode on The Mandalorian and Grogu.After seven years without a Star Wars movie in theaters, they break down what worked, what didn’t, and whether this film helped bring Star Wars back. From Mando’s upgraded fighting skills to Grogu’s loyalty, puppet effects, deep-cut Easter eggs, and the long shadow of The Last Jedi, this conversation is full of honest reactions, ridiculous banter, and plenty of Star Wars nerding out.If you love Star Wars, church planter humor, or just want to hear Peyton and Pete argue about huts, puppets, and whether Grogu is better than CGI, this one is for you.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Simplify Church: simplifychurch.comNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #642 - Why Small Groups Need Disciple-Makers 25.05.2026 56min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk about Discipology, small groups, AI, and what it takes to activate disciple-makers in the church.Peyton unpacks why mobilization has to come before multiplication, and why churches cannot rely on content, programs, or technology alone to make disciples. From small-group growth to leadership development, he explains how disciple-making starts when everyday believers are equipped, sent, and supported as they help others follow Jesus.The conversation also touches on the role of AI in ministry, the limits of technology, and why human connection, spiritual formation, and the work of the Spirit still matter deeply in church life.If you want to move people from learning to action and build a culture where disciples actually make disciples, this episode will help you take the next step.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed Training: https://newbreedtraining.com/DiscipologyThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #641 - AI & Orthodoxy & Planters, Oh My! 18.05.2026 54min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell tackle two major, yet wildly different conversations shaping the future of ministry: artificial intelligence and the growing interest in Greek Orthodoxy.They begin by talking about how quickly AI is changing the workplace, why leaders need to pay attention, and how churches and businesses may need to adapt as jobs, tools, and opportunities shift. From there, the conversation moves into the rise of young men exploring Greek Orthodox tradition, liturgy, and authority.Peyton and Pete unpack the tension between Scripture and tradition, the appeal of ancient practices, and why church planters need to be ready to answer thoughtful questions with clarity and conviction. This episode challenges leaders to think carefully about cultural change, theological formation, and how to help people follow Jesus without being swept along by trends.If you’re a church planter, leader, or disciple-maker navigating a rapidly changing world, this conversation will help you stay grounded and lead with discernment.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #640 - How to Grow Outreach Without Losing the Mission 11.05.2026 44min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk about church marketing and how to use big days without losing sight of the mission.Pete talks about the importance of small businesses being involved in their communities, and how churches can apply that idea to holidays like Easter and Christmas. Peyton explains the importance of Easter, Good Friday, and other high-attendance moments, as well as some of the missteps modern churches take in celebrating those days, and how we should look to connect with people, serve the community, and invite them into something deeper. But the goal is not just getting more people in the room. It is helping people follow Jesus and take steps toward disciple-making.The conversation also covers community events, small groups, church communication tools, Facebook groups, and how leaders can create space for connection without letting chaos take over. Peyton shares practical examples from his own church plant, including neighborhood outreach, supporting other churches, preparing for growth, and building a culture where people are mobilized instead of just gathered.If you are a church planter trying to reach your community without letting marketing replace disciple-making, this episode will help you think clearly about outreach, growth, and mission.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #639 - Dave Ferguson on Multiplier 04.05.2026 42min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with Dave Ferguson to talk about what it really means to become a multiplier.Dave brings decades of experience in church planting, leadership development, and movement-building, helping leaders think beyond addition and into multiplication. The conversation explores how disciple-making movements grow, why leaders have to release control, and what it looks like to equip everyday believers to lead, serve, and make disciples where they are.If you want to move from doing ministry yourself to mobilizing others for mission, this episode will help you take the next step toward multiplication.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #638 - Fixing Leadership Bottlenecks 27.04.2026 42min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell tackle one of the biggest challenges leaders face: bottlenecks that slow down movement.As churches grow, leaders often become the very thing holding things back. Instead of mobilizing others, everything funnels through a few people, and disciple-making stalls.Peyton and Pete break down how to recognize leadership bottlenecks, why they form, and how to remove them so more people can be equipped, sent, and released on mission. They talk about shifting from control to empowerment, building leaders instead of doing everything yourself, and creating space for others to step in and make disciples.If you want to stop doing all the ministry yourself and start mobilizing others to make disciples, this episode will help you take the next step.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #637 - SA and the Church 20.04.2026 51min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with members of Sexaholics Anonymous to talk about a struggle many leaders face, but few talk about.Behind the scenes, sexual addiction, lust, and hidden sin are impacting pastors, leaders, and everyday believers. Shame keeps people silent, and isolation keeps them stuck.Through honest stories of addiction, relapse, and recovery, this conversation brings things into the light. It challenges leaders to stop hiding, get help, and build cultures where people can be known, supported, and set free.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.

CPP #636 – Brian Sanders on How Microchurches Grow Out of Mission 13.04.2026 42min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with Brian Sanders, founder of The Underground Network, to talk about the relationship between disciple making and microchurch planting. Brian explains why churches aren’t meant to be planted first and disciples made later. Instead, churches should emerge from the soil of mission as disciples are formed in real life and real relationships. The conversation explores mobilization, calling, relational networks, and why smaller expressions of church often mobilize more people for mission than larger models.They also discuss the importance of proximity in discipleship, why microchurches form naturally out of relational networks, and how discovering your “where” (your calling to a people or place) often leads to new ministries and new church expressions. If you’re interested in disciple making movements, microchurches, or mobilizing everyday believers for mission, this conversation will challenge how you think about church planting...and where it really begins.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #635 - Steve Addison on Everywhere 06.04.2026 28min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with movement researcher, author, and practitioner Steve Addison to talk about his new book Everywhere: How God Multiplies Disciples and Churches. Drawing from stories around the world, from prisons in Texas to underground movements in the Middle East and Asia, Steve shares how ordinary believers are being used by God to spark disciple-making movements in some of the most unlikely places. They discuss why movements don’t spread through professionals but through everyday disciples, how simple obedience and simple tools lead to multiplication, and why the gospel is still the driving force behind every movement of God.If you’re a church planter, disciple maker, or leader who wants to see multiplication rather than addition, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to rethink what’s possible when ordinary people take Jesus’ command to make disciples seriously.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:EverywhereNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #634 – Tiffany Stein on Mourning God 30.03.2026 35min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton and Andrea Jones sit down with Tiffany Stein—pastor, church planter’s wife, and author of Mourning God: Grieving Loss, Wrestling with God, and Finding Your Way Back to Life.Tiffany shares her powerful story of faith, loss, and leadership after the death of her infant son, David, who lived for 53 days. As a pastor in a highly visible church context, her grief unfolded publicly, forcing her to wrestle not only with devastating loss, but with the haunting silence of God that followed.This conversation goes beyond theology and into the raw, emotional terrain church planters and ministry leaders often face but rarely discuss. Tiffany unpacks:What it means to “mourn the God you thought you knew”Why emotional doubt can be more destabilizing than intellectual doubtThe danger of quick-fix theology and Christian clichésWhy the Church desperately needs a robust theology of lamentHow leaders can grieve authentically while still shepherding othersThe humbling discipline of receiving care instead of always giving itFor church planters leading through infertility, loss, burnout, unanswered prayer, or spiritual silence, this episode offers permission to be human and a pathway back to hope.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Mourning GodReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #633 – John Teter and Larry Walkemeyer on The Making of a Multiplier 23.03.2026 40min

In this rich and forward-looking episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with two seasoned practitioners of multiplication: Larry Walkemeyer and John Teter, co-authors of The Making of a Multiplier: Four Seasons to Maximize Your Kingdom Legacy.Between them, Larry and John bring decades of church planting, denominational leadership, mentoring, and movement-building experience. From planting 30+ churches out of Light & Life Fellowship in Long Beach to launching businesses like 5000 Pies in Compton as a discipleship engine, these leaders don’t just talk multiplication, they live it.In this conversation, they unpack:Why so many leaders fail to finish well, and how to avoid itThe four-season framework of leadership development (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter)Why Barnabas is the ultimate model of a multiplierThe overlooked power of investing in others instead of chasing platformHow multiplication legacy can outlive visible ministryLarry shares from his own “winter” season of influence without authority, while John reflects on how nearly resigning from ministry at 25 led him into a lifetime study of finishing well.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #632 – The Shalom Star and the Character of a Leader 16.03.2026 40min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell explore a foundational idea behind Discipology: before you make disciples, you must first become one. But that doesn’t simply mean being saved, it means allowing the character of Jesus to shape your life. Peyton explains how the New Testament qualifications for leaders ultimately describe a life that reflects Christ’s character. From there, he introduces the Shalom Star, a practical tool designed to help believers evaluate whether their lives are growing in healthy, Christ-like balance across six key areas: spiritual life, honor (responsibilities), affections, learning, others, and mental health. Together, Pete and Peyton discuss why imbalance in a leader’s life can undermine their witness, how discipleship shapes character through proximity to Jesus, and why personal transformation must come before effective disciple-making.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:TakeShalom.comDiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #631 – Joey Cook: Disciple Making on the Fairway 09.03.2026 33min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with pastor, author, and leadership coach Joey Cook to explore a creative and rapidly growing approach to disciple making—right on the golf course.Joey shares his journey of faith, from growing up in a small Ozark Mountains church to discovering the deeper relational love of God that now fuels his ministry and leadership. That personal transformation has shaped his passion to help people experience the love of the Father and extend it to others. The conversation centers around a unique disciple-making movement happening inside golf communities around the world. Through a partnership with PGA professionals and the Bible Caddy podcast, Joey and others are helping launch “feature groups” at country clubs—spaces where golfers gather, build friendships, study Scripture, and talk honestly about life and faith.What began as a simple idea has quickly multiplied to more than 160 groups globally, connecting believers and non-believers alike through shared passions and authentic conversations about the gospel.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Connect with Bible Caddie by emailing groups@biblecaddie.comDiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #630 – Discipling the Next Generation 02.03.2026 55min

The topic was supposed to be “Discipling the Next Generation”…and we got there, just not how you’d expect.In this episode, Peyton and Pete unpack an often-overlooked ingredient behind disciple-making movements: mentorship.Peyton shares what it’s been like to have a legend like Ralph Moore personally investing into his church plant and why having a mentor can change the trajectory of your ministry (and your life). From stories of writing letters to paying for coaching that reshaped his future, Peyton makes the case that too many church planters are pouring out without ever letting someone pour into them.They also tackle:Why Gen X leaders struggle to ask for helpThe difference between wanting mentorship and committing to itWhy skin in the game mattersThe cost (and value) of being discipledWhy you should always have someone ahead of you — and someone behind youIf you’re planting, leading, or simply feeling like you’re figuring it out alone…this episode is a reminder: You weren’t meant to. And if we’re serious about discipling the next generation, it starts by modeling what it looks like to be discipled ourselves.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:DiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #629 – Larry Walkemeyer on Disciple Making as the Engine for Multiplication 23.02.2026 35min

In this powerful conversation, Peyton sits down with his longtime mentor and friend, Larry Walkemeyer, to unpack why disciple-making must come before church multiplication, and why so many movements stall when they skip that step.Drawing from themes in Discipology and Larry’s forthcoming book The Making of a Multiplier, this episode explores the deep connection between time, teaching, and tactics — the three rhythms of Jesus’ disciple-making strategy that ultimately led to explosive Kingdom impact.Larry shares:Why the priesthood of all believers is the theological foundation of mobilizationHow relational disciple-making fuels true multiplicationA powerful personal vision that reshaped his ministry philosophyWhy you can’t teach multiplication into existence The difference between a “lake mentality” and a “river mentality” churchYou’ll also hear stories of everyday believers who became disciple-makers simply because someone walked closely with them long enough for the fire to catch.If you’re passionate about church planting, leadership development, or seeing movements multiply, this episode will challenge you to slow down, go deep, and mobilize before you multiply.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:DiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #628 – Kris Langham on Media, Disciple-Making, and the Discipology Plan 16.02.2026 54min

What do Van Halen, St. Paul’s Cathedral, and a boring radio station have in common?For Kris Langham, they were all part of the journey that led him to faith.In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell sit down with Kris Langham, founder of Through the Word, to unpack his remarkable salvation story and the vision behind one of the most accessible Bible engagement tools in the world.Kris shares how a simple audio Bible teaching format grew into Through the Word, a free app with a 10-minute audio guide for every chapter of the Bible (now approaching 1 million users).But this conversation goes deeper than technology.Together, the guys explore:Why most Christians feel anxiety when they hear “go make disciples”The critical difference between discipleship and disciple-makingHow we often reproduce the way we were discipled, for better or worseWhy disciple-making moves at the speed of relationshipHow introverts might actually make the best disciple-makersHow the new Discipology Plan inside the Through the Word app helps everyday believers follow Jesus and take someone with themResources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:DiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #627 - The Making of Discipology 09.02.2026 44min

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones pulls back the curtain on the long, surprising, and deeply personal journey behind Discipology.What began as a question while writing Church Plantology turned into a multi-year exploration of how Jesus actually formed disciples who multiplied. Peyton shares how studying Jesus chronologically—not thematically—reshaped his understanding of disciple making, exposed a leadership pipeline problem in the church, and led to the development of the now-central Time, Teaching, and Tactics frameworkAlong the way, Peyton talks candidly about the challenges of trailblazing a paradigm where little prior research existed, the spiritual weight of the project, and how a season of prayer and unexpected clarity shaped key tools like the Shalom framework. Pete Mitchell guides the conversation with humor and insight, helping surface why Discipology isn’t just another discipleship book, but a reproducible system aimed at mobilizing everyday believers.If you’ve ever wondered why disciple making feels harder than it should, or how Jesus actually trained people to do it, this episode offers both the origin story and the heart behind Discipology.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:DiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.

CPP #626 – Elliot Sands on Navigating Polarization 02.02.2026 44min

In this episode, Peyton Jones is joined by Elliot Sands, president of Faith First, for a thoughtful and candid conversation about politics, unity, and disciple-making in today’s divided world. From his upbringing as a missionary kid in Nigeria to his work helping Christians navigate cultural and political fractures, Elliot brings a grounded, pastoral perspective to one of the most volatile challenges facing the Church right now.If you’re a church planter trying to lead faithfully without alienating half your congregation — or wondering how to shepherd people through cultural chaos without losing gospel clarity — this episode will give you language, framework, and hope.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:LiveFaithFirst.orgReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.