The Boundless Podcast

Epizodes

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  Aurélie Montauban: Across Four Countries in Pursuit of Great Horsemanship - The Boundless Podcast 06.08.2026 31min

  From Belgium 🇧🇪 to France 🇫🇷, with chapters in Ireland 🇮🇪, Newmarket, England 🇬🇧, and the United States 🇺🇸, Aurelie never let a lack of racing connections define where she could go.Growing up in Belgium with no family ties to racing, she followed her curiosity wherever it led. She began veterinary school before realizing her true passion was training racehorses. Determined to build a career in France, she completed four years of jockey school to master both riding and the French language.Her education didn't stop there. Aurélie sought out some of the best horsemen in the world, spending time riding and learning under Aidan O'Brien in Ireland, gaining experience in Newmarket, England, and working alongside Christophe Clement in the United States before returning to France to establish her own stable.Today, in Deauville, her horses don't just train on the racetrack. They walk through town, navigate traffic, and gallop along the beaches of Normandy, developing the confidence and adaptability they'll need as they compete across Europe.In this episode of Boundless, we talk about building a career from the ground up, learning from different racing cultures around the world, and why exposing horses to new environments can make them better athletes.🎙️ Full episode available now.
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  Jason Lau: Hawaiian Cowboy - From Starting Over 2,000 Horses to His Kuleana - The Boundless Podcast 03.07.2026 33min

  What do polo, bull riding, farriery, horsemanship, and serving others have in common? Jason Lau.In this episode of the Boundless Podcast, I sit down with Jason Lau in Kona, Hawaii, to explore a life shaped by horses, hard work, and purpose. Jason has started nearly 2,000 horses across a wide variety of breeds and disciplines. He's a professional polo player, an accomplished farrier, a former professional bull rider, and someone deeply committed to giving back, whether that's sponsoring young rodeo athletes or helping people heal through the Equiscope.Together, we discuss lessons horses have taught us, horsemanship that transcends disciplines, how horses have opened doors and taken us around the world, living a life of purpose and service, giving back to the next generation, and healing and recovery with Equiscope.
Whether you're a horseman, athlete, veterinarian, or simply someone searching for a life of greater purpose, this conversation is full of practical wisdom and inspiring stories.🎙️ Subscribe for more conversations exploring the people shaping the horse industry and the lessons we can all learn from them.
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  Kim Wickens: Author of National Bestseller "Lexington" | The Boundless Podcast 04.06.2026 1h 5min

  What does it take to spend ten years bringing a forgotten legend back to life?In this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with author Kim Wickens, whose acclaimed book Lexington resurrected the story of one of the most influential Thoroughbreds in history.Before becoming an award-winning author, Kim spent two decades as a criminal defense attorney. What began as simple curiosity about a horse she'd never heard of soon became a decade-long pursuit that led her through archives, libraries, historic racetracks, and hundreds of primary sources. The result was a groundbreaking book that not only tells Lexington's story, but also shines a light on the remarkable people, horses, and forgotten chapters of American history connected to him.Kim shares the research process behind Lexington, the meaning of grit and perseverance, the parallels between practicing law and writing history, and why some of racing's most important stories have been lost to time. From Civil War-era Kentucky and legendary horsemen to overlooked pioneers like Abe Hawkins and Richard Ten Broeck, this conversation explores the power of determination, curiosity, and the responsibility of preserving history.Whether you're a fan of horse racing, history, writing, or simply chasing an ambitious dream, this episode is a reminder that extraordinary accomplishments often begin with a single question—and the grit to keep pursuing the answer.
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  John Thorp: From Stuntman to Electro Medicine Man | The Boundless Podcast 17.05.2026 2h

  In this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with legendary stuntman, hang glider, horseman, and Equiscope pioneer John Thorp.From flying through a solar eclipse over Hawaii to surviving devastating injuries and helping both athletes and racehorses recover through bioenergetic therapy, John shares an unbelievable life story built on resilience, faith, innovation, and perseverance.The conversation explores Hollywood stunt work, healing, Eastern and Western medicine, the emotional connection between horses and humans, and what it truly means to live a Boundless life.
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  Sandy Hatfield: Breaking Barriers, Leading Stallions, and Building a Legacy Through Mentorship | Boundless 02.04.2026 39min

  Before women were allowed in the breeding shed, Sandy Hatfield was told where she couldn’t go.
She went anyway.In this episode of Boundless, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with one of the most respected stallion managers in the Thoroughbred industry: a woman who built her career from the ground up, working with yearlings, mares, and putting in long hours on the farm before earning her place among the sport’s elite.Sandy shares her journey from growing up around quarter horses in Oklahoma to building a life in Kentucky, working at top farms, and eventually managing world-class stallions, including champions like Gun Runner.Her story isn’t just about horses.It’s about:• Breaking into a space where women were once not allowed• Earning respect through consistency, patience, and work ethic• Leading by example in one of the most demanding roles in racing• Mentoring the next generation and opening doors that once didn’t existSandy talks about the reality of working with stallions, the danger and discipline it requires, and why understanding both horses and people is the key to lasting success.She also shares the mindset that carried her through rejection, setbacks, and moments where the path forward wasn’t clear:show up, work hard, and when someone tells you no, find someone who says yes.This conversation is a masterclass in leadership, resilience, and what it really takes to build a life doing what you love.Where Limits End and Boundless Begins.
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  Judy Hicks: Breeder of Champion Thorpedo Anna & the $10 Horse That Built Her Farm's Legacy | Boundless – Dr. Ferrin Peterson 05.03.2026 33min

  Before Thorpedo Anna won 10 graded stakes races and became one of the most talked-about horses in Thoroughbred racing, Judy Hicks bred her and believed in her potential from the very beginning. In this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with Judy at Brookstown Farm to discuss the journey that led to breeding a champion. From purchasing a $10 horse that became her foundation broodmare, to building a breeding program that has produced graded stakes winners, Judy’s story is one of resilience, patience, and unwavering belief. Judy also shares the philosophy behind her farm and her deep respect for animals—where retired mares live out their lives peacefully in a place she calls “the jungle.” It’s a conversation about the long road behind success in the Thoroughbred industry—and the people who dedicate their lives to it.
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  Dr. Kayce Anderson: From One Goat to Developing Educated Communities | Boundless – Ferrin Peterson 05.02.2026 49min

  Dr. Kayce Anderson’s path didn’t follow the “straight line” we’re often promised. In this episode of Boundless, Ferrin Peterson sits down with Kayce—scientist, conservationist, and the heart behind For the Good—to unpack how rejection, resilience, and a deep respect for community shaped a mission that’s changing lives in rural Kenya. Kayce shares how For the Good began with a simple but massive barrier: many girls miss school during puberty because they don’t have access to menstrual hygiene products. What started as providing reusable sanitary pads—paired with reproductive health education—evolved into something even larger: enrolling out-of-school students (most of them girls) and partnering with Maasai communities in Narok County to build local, affordable secondary schools. You’ll hear why humility matters more than “having the answers,” what it really takes to earn trust with elders and educators, and how sustainable impact is built through shared ownership—sometimes literally one goat at a time. Kayce breaks down the community-matching model that funds these schools, the patience required to work at the “pace of the earth,” and why education is both a lifeline and a tool for preserving culture and protecting land rights. This conversation is a powerful reminder that real change isn’t fast, flashy, or imposed—it’s relational, community-led, and built to last. Learn more or support For the Good: ForTheGood.org
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  Andres Martinez: From Tijuana to Dubai — A Foreman’s Global Journey in Racing - Season 2 Episode 2 - The Boundless Podcast 05.12.2025 53min

  In Season 2 Episode 2, we sit down with Andres Martinez, a globe-trotting foreman for the Doug O’Neill barn whose journey proves just how far horses can take you.Andres began with humble roots in Tijuana — long days in the barn, hands on horses, learning not from textbooks but from sweat, patience, and instinct. His dedication opened doors that many only dream of. Before long, the horses he cared for carried him to Churchill Downs, Japan, Dubai, and racetracks across the world.Andres lives the life most people only see from the stands. Early mornings. Missed parties. Sacrificed hobbies. All in service to the horses he loves — braiding manes with pride, grooming with care, always showing up with heart.He’s proof that passion can become purpose, and purpose can take you places you never imagined.This is a story of grit, devotion, and a life shaped by the animals who gave him wings.
A story that embodies Boundless.
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  Andres Martínez: De Tijuana a Dubái — El Viaje Global de un Capataz en las Carreras 05.12.2025 21min

  En el segundo episodio de la temporada dos, nos acompañó Andrés Martínez, el capataz del establo de Doug O’Neill. Su historia demuestra lo lejos que te pueden llevar los cabellos. 
Andrés empezó con raíces muy humildes en Tijuana, Mexico: largas jornadas en el establo, siempre trabajando y cuidando los caballos, aprendiendo no de libros, sino de sudor, paciencia e instinto. Su dedicación le abrió puertas con las que solo unos sueñan. Antes de mucho, los caballos que cuidaba lo llevaron a Churchill Downs, Japón, Dubái y a hipódromos por todo el mundo.Andrés vive la vida que la mayoría solo ve desde las graderías. Madrugadas. Fiestas perdidas. Pasatiempos sacrificados. Todo al servicio de los caballos que ama — trenzando crines con orgullo, acicalando con esmero, presentándose siempre con el corazón en la mano.Es prueba de que la pasión puede convertirse en propósito, y que el propósito puede llevarte a lugares que nunca imaginaste.
Esta es una historia de coraje, entrega y una vida moldeada por los animales que le dieron alas.
Una historia que encarna Boundless.
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  Diane Crump: The First Woman Jockey in the Kentucky Derby on Grit, Faith & Perseverance | The Boundless Podcast – Ferrin Peterson 06.11.2025 51min

  Diane Crump: First to the GatePioneer. Competitor. History-maker. In this conversation, trailblazing jockey Diane Crump—the first woman to ride in a pari-mutuel race and later the first woman to ride in the Kentucky Derby—revisits the 1960s track where she was often the only woman on the backside, the boycotts that tried to keep her out, and the surreal walk to the paddock with an armed guard as the crowd swelled around her. Diane shares why she felt relief, not nerves when the doors finally opened, the grind of galloping 20 a morning while struggling for mounts, and the infamous Puerto Rico match race that turned into a literal tug-of-war at speed.Alongside host Dr. Ferrin Peterson—professional jockey and veterinarian—Diane reflects on faith, grit, and giving back (from answering kids’ letters to therapy-dog rounds), and offers clear-eyed advice for anyone chasing a hard dream: tune out the naysayers, find your people, and keep riding through the wire.Highlights• Breaking the barrier: from illegal on the backside at 14 to the Derby post parade• Boycotts, headlines, and showing up the next day—taped collarbone and all• Why cheap horses teach the toughest lessons• Fans, integrity, and riding hard for every placing• Faith, kindness, and the long arc of impactListen now and share with someone who needs a push to bet on themselves.
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  The Boundless Podcast - Season 2 Trailer 06.11.2025 3min

  Season 2 of The Boundless Podcast goes beyond borders, beyond limits, and into the heart of purpose. From the barns of Kentucky to the hills of Kenya, from Tijuana to Dubai, we follow stories of grit, grace, and lives transformed by passion. (Diane Crump - First Woman to Ride in a Pari-Mutuel Race in the US and the First Woman to Ride in the Kentucky Derby, Kim Wickens - Criminal Defense Attorney and Author of Best Selling Book "Lexington: The Extraordinary Life and Turbulent Times of America's Legendary Racehorse", Bill Casner - Cowboy, Horseman, Dubai World Cup Winner and Philanthropist, Sandy Hatfield - Stallion Manager at Three Chimneys, Kayce Anderson - Executive Director of For the Good, Humanitarian and Ecologist, Andres Martinez - Globe-Trotting Foreman for Doug O'Neill) These are the journeys that turn ordinary lives into extraordinary legacies. Season 2 premieres November 6, 2025 On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.
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  Sandi Morris - Chasing Gold | The Boundless Podcast – Ferrin Peterson 20.06.2025 1h 56min

  Olympic silver medalist, current world leader, and American outdoor record holder in women’s pole vault — Sandi Morris brings a powerful close to Season 1 of The Boundless Podcast.In this episode, Sandi sits down with Dr. Ferrin Peterson, a professional jockey, veterinarian, and former pole vaulter herself. The two dive into the mindset it takes to stay at the top, bouncing back from injury, and what it really means to bet on yourself — again and again.Now training at the University of Louisville, Sandi has her eyes set on the world record and LA 2028. Her story is one of resilience, reinvention, and relentless pursuit of greatness.🎧 Tune in to hear from this decorated and determined pole vaulter — and get inspired to break your own limits.
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  Katelyn Morgan: Crafting a Career in Racing Her Own Way | The Boundless Podcast – Ferrin Peterson 05.06.2025 47min

  This weeks episode is our first Boundless Student episode, tune in to hear one of the many paths into horse racing. From owning a horse as a kid, graduating from UK, creating her own unique job description, and eventually standing in the winner’s circle of the KY Oaks and Derby — Katelyn Morgan is a powerful reminder of the opportunities this industry provides!
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  Sandy Hawley: One Man, 6,449 wins | The Boundless Podcast – Ferrin Peterson 23.05.2025 52min

  Saddle up for an unforgettable ride with 3-time Hall of Famer Sandy Hawley—a legend who helped shape the golden age of horse racing. From the pivotal mentorship of Canada’s greatest horseman to blazing trails on tracks across the globe, Sandy shares the highs, the hurdles, and the heart behind his historic career.🌟 Hear what it was like riding beside icons and breaking barriers in Canada, the U.S., and beyond. This is one for the books.🔗 Tune in now — wherever you get your podcasts. #TheBoundlessPodcast #SandyHawley #HorseRacingLegends #HallOfFameRider #EquestrianExcellence #BehindTheReins
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  From Australia to Godolphin: Jimmy Lovatt’s Journey Through the World of Thoroughbred Breeding 09.05.2025 47min

  Jimmy Lovatt grew up in Australia with a deep curiosity for horses and turned that passion into a global pursuit. After traveling the world to immerse himself in the Thoroughbred breeding industry, he earned a coveted role as stallion manager at Godolphin—one of the most prestigious breeding farms on the planet. From flying alongside prized stallions to celebrating victories in the Kentucky Derby, Oaks, and Dubai World Cup, Jimmy’s seen the highs of elite racing up close. But what fuels him most isn’t the trophies—it’s mentoring the next generation of horsemen and watching young grooms take pride in their work. Because at the heart of it all is a bond that can’t be explained—only experienced.
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  Bee Buck: There’s Room on the Rail | The Boundless Podcast - Ferrin Peterson 25.04.2025 49min

  In this episode of Boundless, we meet Bee Buck—a powerhouse behind the lens and a passionate storyteller of the racetrack. A freelance photographer who’s captured six Kentucky Derbies and two Breeders’ Cups by age 38, Bee brings a gritty, detailed eye to some of the sport’s most iconic moments. Beyond the camera, she also works in a pediatric unit, proving that dual careers are not only possible, but powerful. Bee shows us what horse racing feels like through her lens—and reminds aspiring photographers that there’s always “room on the rail.”
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  Dana Zook: From $1 Ride to Racing The Greats | The Boundless Podcast – Ferrin Peterson 13.04.2025 47min

  On this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with Dana Zook — retired jockey and current foreman for top trainer Mike Maker. Dana shares how he got his first ride for just a dollar with trainer Dr. Gregory, what it was like to beat some of the greatest jockeys of all time, and how his career evolved into managing racehorses at the highest level. An inspiring ride through grit, growth, and the relentless love of the game. 🐎✨ #TheBoundlessPodcast #FerrinPeterson #DanaZook #JockeyLife #HorseRacing #MikeMaker #FromSaddleToStable #BehindTheScenes #Equestrian #Horses #Jockey
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  Chris McCarron: Triumph in Mourning, Tiznow, and the Changing Art of Riding | The Boundless Podcast - Ferrin Peterson 27.03.2025 1h 4min

  🎙️ In this captivating episode of Boundless, Hall of Fame jockey Chris McCarron sits down with Dr. Ferrin Peterson to share the extraordinary journey behind one of horse racing’s most legendary careers. 🏆🐎From being inspired by his older brother Gregg McCarron to becoming one of the all-time greats himself, Chris opens up about the moments that shaped him. He reflects on the strength it took to race and win in honor of his mother just days after her passing—a deeply emotional victory that exemplified his resilience.Chris also dives into his historic Breeders’ Cup triumphs aboard Tiznow in 2000 and 2001, including the challenges of riding such a headstrong horse and the pride of winning during a time when America needed hope after 9/11.But the conversation doesn’t stop there—Chris shares his thoughts on how the racing style has evolved over the years. He discusses how the straight-legged, high-seated style some jockeys use today creates unnecessary drag and wind resistance, offering insight into the nuances of technique and efficiency that separate the good from the great.This episode is filled with heartfelt stories, expert advice, and behind-the-scenes perspectives that go far beyond the racetrack. Whether you’re a lifelong fan of racing or simply love hearing from those who have achieved greatness, this is one conversation you won’t want to miss.Timestamps00:09 Intro00:43 Gregg McCarron - Brother and Mentor03:20 Was it important to have the foundation as a hotwalker?04:20 First Race05:25 Beating Sandy Hawley’s record for most wins in a year06:09 Were you self taught or did you have a mentor?07:45 Were you a well rounded athlete? Family of athletes08:40 Born with balance10:10 Being in the horses center of gravity11:05 The importance of getting along with a horse12:07 Riding the Mid-Atlantic Circuit - Establishing trust with 5-10 minute warmup17:28 Tiznow has a mind of his own!23:25 “Don’t be surprised if you don’t see me hitting him coming down through the stretch.”26:17 The Comeback King - Fitness and Balance27:26 Winning the Travers Stakes in Honor of His Mother35:20 Developing your mindset to thrive under pressure?38:06 Aerodynamic Colors - Rhonda Allen 198740:20 The riding styles of Irad Ortiz Jr. & Tyler Gaffalione - “Straight legs down the stretch”43:53 One of the few jockeys who tactically adapted their riding style45:40 Southern California Jockey Colony - 12 Hall of Famers47:21 1980-81 Winning Streaks49:20 Competitive up until the last race50:35 Retirement - Injuries53:55 Came Home - Final Race55:18 Doing the math on horses mounted: over 50,000 legs over a horses back55:53 Advice to younger self59:14 Riding a horse well past the finish line1:00:25 What advice would you give to a young rider starting their career?1:03:33 Next Episode: Dana Zook1:04:12 AM Wager Ad#BoundlessPodcast #ChrisMcCarron #HorseRacingLegends #Tiznow #BreedersCup #RacingTechnique #EquestrianInspiration #JockeyLife #Jockey #Horse #Horses #Horseriding
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  From Heartbreak to Hope: Susan Naylor | The Boundless Podcast - Ferrin Peterson 13.03.2025 39min

  After facing the unimaginable loss of both her sons—Will in a tragic car accident in Hawaii and her eldest to addiction—Susan Naylor turned her grief into a powerful force for good. Inspired by Will’s incredible heart for people, she founded the Will Smith Foundation, which has since supported 68 organizations dedicated to improving the lives of children in Texas, Hawaii, and Africa.Beyond her philanthropic work, Susan is also a passionate racehorse owner and breeder, with multiple stakes winners competing at the highest levels, including the Breeders’ Cup. In this deeply moving episode of Boundless, Susan shares how she transformed loss into legacy, the impact of the Foundation, and her love for the sport of kings.Join us for an inspiring conversation about resilience, purpose, and the boundless ways we can turn tragedy into triumph. 🎧✨Timestamps:00:38 How do people perceive you?02:02 “Everyone is jealous of what you’ve got, not how you got it.”03:17 Introduction to riding04:08 The Will Smith Foundation - Will and Charlies Deaths05:44 A turn of events and what they lead to08:39 Your biggest influence10:20 Generosity and fundraising - Athleticism11:10 At one of your lowest years you started giving back more12:35 Carrying on Legacy13:04 Surgery Clinic - Leeu Naylor Medical Building15:19 Leeu Origin16:18 Will notices the needs of African kids - The foundations work18:00 Why did you choose to put your dogs name on the surgery center?20:00 Making the chose to put a pet down and Ferrins experience as a Veterinarian22:37 Heart for horses24:33 Developing horsemanship25:18 Debbie Ward25:45 Ferrin traveling abroad in Veterinarian school to learn from the best and making it work financially28:59 “Andthewinneris” When a young horses lightbulb turns on31:37 Manny Wah33:24 Treating horses well and giving them breaks when they need it34:06 Where does the name Safari North come from?34:45 if you could go back and talk to your younger self what advice would you give?37:18 Next Episode38:29 AMWager #BoundlessPodcast #WillSmithFoundation #LegacyOfLove #Philanthropy #HorseRacing
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  The Faith, Resilience, and Legacy of Hall of Fame Jockey Pat Day | The Boundless Podcast - Ferrin Peterson 28.02.2025 1h 9min

  With 8,803 wins, nine Triple Crown victories, and a reputation as one of the greatest jockeys in history, Pat Day’s career is nothing short of legendary.But to him, those accolades aren’t his greatest achievement. In this episode of The Boundless Podcast, Dr. Ferrin Peterson sits down with the Hall of Famer to uncover the mindset, faith, and resilience that shaped his journey. From the lessons horse racing taught him to the impact of mentorship and the choices that defined his path, Pat shares wisdom gained from a lifetime in the saddle.Tune in for an inspiring conversation with one of racing’s most patient and purposeful riders. 🎙🐎#TheBoundlessPodcast #PatDay #JockeyLife #HorseRacingTimestamps00:00 intro01:00 What first sparked your interest in horse racing?01:50 Riverside thoroughbred farm - Gene Cummings05:05 First Win on Forblunged07:16 What set you apart from other riders?09:18 How did you learn to manage the highs and lows?10:58 Leading rider in North America - Last possible races12:40 Party Lifestyle14:40 Coming to Christ - Jimmy Swagert20:20 Telling Sheila he’s a Christian25:13 Sheila Day - Marriage, Support on the track28:40 How did you keep your standard high?30:55 22% Win record means 78% loss record - bouncing back31:43 Emotional and Mental Challenges - Dangerous sport33:41 Racing several consecutive seconds in the Kentucky Derby before winning34:16 49er 1988 Derby37:30 Easy Goer 1989 Derby40:05 Before Christ I was an arrogant winner and a terrible loser41:43 Summer Squall42:45 Offered Unbridled and lost46:47 The Wall and the sound barrier throwing his horse off49:30 3 most meaningful races in his career58:10 Kentucky Derby with LIL E TEE59:13 Mentoring other jockeys - leading by example01:02:45 Turning down a stake mount for a young jockey with an opportunity01:05:00 What advice would you give to someone just starting their career?01:06:45 Ferrin is the hardest working jockey Pat Knows01:08:25 Next Episode: Susan Naylor