To The Point - Cybersecurity

Epizodes

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  Agentic AI Needs Humans on the Loop with Michael Chavira 14.07.2026 43min

  As AI systems start acting on their own, the hardest security problem is no longer approving what a model outputs but governing the conditions under which it is allowed to act at all. Michael Chavira, co-founder of Axiologic Solutions, argues that most organizations confuse governance with security, writing policies and standing up AI councils that describe intent while leaving the enforcement layer, where a model actually touches data, underbuilt. His answer is to move humans out of the approve-every-action role and onto the loop, where they define the boundaries an agentic system runs inside and watch for it to step out.  That control is only as good as the data underneath it, and for most enterprises, the data is a weak point. Chavira makes the case that AI security is ultimately data security, since a model is only as trustworthy as the data feeding it, and he walks through why shadow AI, unlabeled data and untracked workarounds quietly undermine even well-governed systems. For tools that answer the same question differently each time, he recommends harness engineering and continuous data operations as the way to secure the system rather than chase every output. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/resources/podcast/agentic-ai-humans-on-the-loop
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  AI Agents Aren't People. Don't Give Them the Keys with Ido Shlomo 07.07.2026 40min

  Ido Shlomo, co-founder and CTO of Token Security, makes a blunt case: an AI agent is not a person. It is a workload that impersonates one, chasing whatever goal it is handed without judgment, memory, or common sense. Treat it like an employee and hand it the keys, and enterprise security quietly starts to break down.  Shlomo explains why agents inherit the same credentials and keys that service accounts have always used, why over-permissioning backfires on the business itself, and how identity teams can align an agent's access to its real intent. He also argues, against his own instincts, for more regulation of how agents connect to business systems and makes the case that reducing the blast radius matters more than trusting any single model. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/resources/podcast/securing-ai-agents-non-human-identity
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  AppSec Needs AI Employees, Not More Tools with Shan Kulkarni 16.06.2026 29min
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  Human Behavior Is the Attack Surface | Part 2 with Jeremiah Baker 09.06.2026 32min

  In this episode of Forcepoint's "To the Point Cybersecurity" podcast, hosts Jonathan Knepher and Rachael Lyon are joined once again by Jeremiah Baker for a deep dive into the rapidly shifting landscape of cybersecurity. With the velocity of AI-driven attacks shrinking defenders' response windows to mere seconds, the conversation explores how organizations—large and small—must adapt their mindsets and strategies to survive in an age where legacy defenses and human complacency can have catastrophic consequences. Jeremiah Baker draws from decades of hands-on experience, sharing real-world lessons about the evolving threat surface, the importance of thinking like cybercriminals, and the struggles of instilling security-first cultures—especially for businesses lacking dedicated security teams. The discussion tackles the challenges posed by new vulnerabilities, the ever-present risks of social media exposure, and how personal responsibility and security awareness are now non-negotiable parts of business DNA. With anecdotes ranging from boardroom conversations to frontline cyber incidents, this episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating digital transformation, AI risks, and the uncertain road ahead in cybersecurity. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e384
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  Inside the Cybersecurity Situation Room with Jeremiah Baker | Part 1 02.06.2026 30min

  Welcome back to another episode of To the Point Cybersecurity, where Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher dive into the frontline battles of today's digital landscape. This week, they're joined by Jeremiah Baker—an ethical hacker turned keynote speaker and author with over 20 years of cybersecurity experience. Together, they unravel the evolving tactics of financially motivated cyber attacks, explore how AI is rapidly making phishing and fraud more efficient, and highlight why trust is harder than ever to establish online. Jeremiah Baker shares real-world stories of catastrophic breaches, underscores the critical importance of zero trust and proactive defenses, and discusses the game-changing—and double-edged—role of AI for both attackers and defenders. Whether you're a business leader, IT pro, or simply curious about how to stay safe in a world of sophisticated cyber threats, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/resources/podcast/inside-cybersecurity-situation-room-jeremiah-baker-part-1
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  Bridging Hackers and Government: Securing America's Water with Jake Braun - Part 2 26.05.2026 24min

  Welcome back to To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast, where hosts Rachel Lyon and Jonathan Knepher dive into the critical state of our nation's infrastructure with Jake Braun. In this episode, Jake Braun details the vulnerabilities facing America's water systems and explains the mission behind the Franklin Project, an initiative connecting hackers and cybersecurity professionals with small, often-overlooked utilities to bolster their defenses. From stories of hackers working covertly with election officials to the growing threats posed by foreign adversaries, this conversation unpacks the urgency of securing essential services and explores how communities—and individuals—can get involved in the fight to protect our most vital resources. Stay tuned as we discuss how the lines between the hacker, government, and critical infrastructure worlds are being blurred for the greater good. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e381
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  Bridging Hackers and Government: The Digital Arsenal of Democracy, with Jake Braun - Part 1 19.05.2026 27min

  Welcome to "To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast," where each week hosts Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher dive into the latest trends and critical topics shaping the world of cybersecurity. In this episode, we're thrilled to welcome Jake Braun, Executive Director of the Cyber Policy Initiative at the University of Chicago, CEO and co-founder of Cambridge Global Advisors, and former Acting Principal Deputy National Cyber Director at the White House. Join us as we explore what it's like to bridge the gap between the hacker community and government, the evolving frustrations hackers have with official institutions, and highlights from the latest "Hackers Almanac." From AI-driven offensive security and mesh network resilience to preserving cultural heritage in the digital age, it's a conversation packed with cutting-edge insights and urgent policy considerations. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e380
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  Why Human Judgment Still Wins in the AI-Driven SOC with Monzy Merza - Part 2 12.05.2026 31min

  Welcome to another episode of Forcepoint's "To the Point Cybersecurity" podcast. This week, Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher continue their deep-dive conversation with Monzy Merza, exploring the transformative impact of AI in security operations centers (SoCs) and the evolving landscape of cyber threats and defense. In this episode, Monzy Merza shares candid insights into building trust and confidence in AI tools, managing the surge in AI-generated data and requirements, and the crucial role of human judgment amid technological advancements. The discussion covers everything from the realities of AI-generated errors to the challenges and opportunities for defenders as attackers adopt agent-driven threats. For CISOs and SOC managers facing the daunting task of AI transformation, Monzy Merza offers practical strategies, hard-earned lessons from the front lines, and a glimpse into future-proofing your security teams. Tune in to hear what practitioners are really experiencing in the trenches and what key questions every leader should be asking in the race to integrate AI securely and effectively. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e380
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  Modern SOC Struggles: AI, Data Fragmentation, and Human Limitations with Monzy Merza 05.05.2026 27min

  Welcome to "To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast." This week, hosts Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher dive deep into the evolving challenges of security operations with special guest Monzy Merza, CEO and co-founder of Crogl. With a career spanning government research, security innovation at Splunk, and go-to-market leadership at Databricks, Monzy Merza brings a unique perspective on why the security operations problem remains unsolved and why industry solutions often fall short for SOC teams. In this episode, you'll hear about the realities faced by security analysts: data sprawled across countless tools, rising alert volumes, and unrealistic expectations for operator expertise. Monzy Merza shares his eye-opening experience stepping away from executive roles to work directly on SOC teams, the complexity of today's threat landscape, and how AI is changing—sometimes complicating—the security equation. He also discusses pitfalls of centralizing data, the importance of auditable and transparent AI, and how Crogl strives to capture institutional knowledge and empower security teams. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e379
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  Navigating AI Risks and Resilience in Cybersecurity with Rick Hemsley 28.04.2026 31min

  Welcome to another episode of the To The Point Cybersecurity Podcast! This week, Rachael Lyon sits down with Rick Hemsley, UK and Ireland Cybersecurity Consulting Leader at Ernst & Young, to dive deep into the rapidly evolving intersection of artificial intelligence and cyber risk. With over 25 years of experience advising a diverse range of organizations—including governments—Rick Hemsley shares insights from EY's latest research on the shifting threat landscape, the phenomenon of "NAVI" (nonlinear, accelerated, volatile, interconnected challenges), and the growing impact of AI-driven attacks. The conversation explores the widening gap between innovation and governance, the need for robust guardrails, the human element in defending against adversarial AI, and the importance of integrating cybersecurity into every stage of digital transformation. Whether you're a cybersecurity professional, an executive, or simply interested in the future of AI and security, this episode offers expert perspective and actionable guidance you won't want to miss. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e378
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  Enhancing Cyber Posture: Leadership, Zero Trust, and AI Adoption in Government with Jennifer Franks 14.04.2026 44min

  Welcome back to "To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast," where Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher break down the latest trends shaping the world of cyber defense. In this episode, they're joined by Jennifer Franks, Director in the Government Accountability Office's Information Technology and Cybersecurity team and head of its Center for Enhanced Cybersecurity. Jennifer Franks brings a fresh perspective on the evolving cybersecurity landscape, sharing insights into government agency challenges, the shift toward Zero Trust architectures, and the crucial importance of visibility, culture, and workforce readiness. Tune in as they explore the intersection of AI, data proliferation, and cyber hygiene — and learn what it takes to strengthen security posture in complex public sector environments, foster a resilient culture, and prepare both agencies and future cyber professionals for what lies ahead. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e377
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  REPLAY: Cloud War Games: Building Disaster Muscle Memory and Collaborative Resilience in DevOps Teams with Matt Lea 31.03.2026 35min

  Welcome back to the Point Cybersecurity Podcast! On this week's episode, Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher are joined by a very special guest, Matt Lea, the creator of Cloud War Games. Matt Lea shares his unique journey in cybersecurity, beginning with hacking video games as a sixth grader and evolving into a career helping startups and cloud professionals prepare for real-world outages and cyber incidents. Together, they dive into the high stakes world of cloud incident response—discussing everything from the importance of collaborative problem-solving and building muscle memory for incident management, to the risks of data silos and the dangers of single points of failure within engineering teams. Matt Lea also sheds light on trends in cloud security, the rise of AI agents (and their pitfalls), and best practices for managing credentials, technical debt, and multi-cloud strategies. Whether you're curious about cloud-based cyber "war games," learning how to empower your junior engineers, or concerned about the evolving threats posed by agentic AI, this episode offers invaluable insights from the frontline of cybersecurity. Don't miss their stories, practical advice, and a dose of humor as they navigate the fast-changing digital landscape. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e376
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  From Passwords to Quantum Threats: Securing Remote Access in a Rapidly Changing World With Neil Gad 17.03.2026 36min

  Welcome to another episode of the To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast, brought to you by Forcepoint. This week, your hosts Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher are joined by Neil Gad, Chief Product and Technology Officer at RealVNC, for an eye-opening conversation about the evolving threats and opportunities at the intersection of remote access, cybersecurity, and artificial intelligence. Together, they dive into how remote access is reshaping critical boundaries in cybersecurity, why secure-by-design principles are more important than ever, and the new risks emerging—especially those driven by application sprawl and the rapid adoption of AI technologies in the workplace. Neil Gad shares real-world examples from industrial settings, discusses the ongoing cloud versus on-premises debate, and explores how organizations should manage the massive scale and speed of AI-driven workflows. Listeners will also hear candid thoughts on the future of authentication, what quantum computing means for encryption, and the skillsets needed for the next wave of cybersecurity talent. Whether you're a cybersecurity professional, a technology leader, or simply curious about the future of securing data in a fast-moving world, this episode delivers timely insights and practical advice. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e375
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  The Human Price for Data and Privacy Protection with Rob Mcdonald 03.03.2026 44min

  Rob McDonald, SVP of Platform at Virtru joins the podcast to double-click into the privacy and data discussion. We explore subsidizing the pain of giving personal data in exchange for 'free' services, informed consent, regulation alone isn't a silver bullet, and what outcomes we could we drive when we combine user decisions with regulation. And he shares insights on behaviors that come with innovation, data as common denominator, regulations such as GDPR and CCPA as progress markers (and not the final destination), the criticality of the CIO/CISO as storyteller and recognizing our front line defenders are people (not robots!). Rob McDonald, SVP Plaftorm at Virtru Rob is the SVP of Platform and an advocate of safeguarding data across new applications and data-sharing workflows. Prior to Virtru, Rob was the CIO for several Acute Care facilities and Denovo Healthcare development teams. His significant expertise in the healthcare industry earned him a spot in Becker's Review as a 2013 and 2014 Top 100 Healthcare CIOs. Rob has also consulted with corporations to help them assess their current information security position and develop a plan to not only mitigate the discovered technical shortcomings but more critically to raise security awareness amongst their employees. Rob holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer Science from the University of Texas at Dallas and is a perpetual student of technology, information security, and privacy practices. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e374
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  Navigating AI Ethics: Human-Centered Design, Regulation, and the Price of Innovation with Erica Shoemate 24.02.2026 52min

  This week on To The Point Cybersecurity Podcast, hosts Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher sit down with Erica Shoemate—international bestselling author, tech policy leader, and advocate for maternal health—to tackle the hot-button issues surrounding AI and cybersecurity. From headline-making resignations at leading AI companies to the complexities of human-centered design, ethics, and regulation, Erica Shoemate brings her unique insight from years in national security and big tech. Join us as we dig into concerns about innovation versus profit, the pitfalls of monetizing user data, and the ever-evolving guardrails around generative AI. We'll explore whether current regulations are enough to protect consumers—especially children—and what tech leaders should be thinking about as AI reshapes the landscape. Don't miss this thought-provoking conversation that's equal parts cautionary tale and call to action for more transparent, ethical leadership in technology. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e373
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  Cybersecurity in 2026: AI, Steganography, and Securing Legacy Systems with Jacob Anderson 17.02.2026 38min

  Welcome to this week's episode of the To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast, brought to you by Forcepoint. Join hosts Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher as they dive into the fascinating world of cyber defense, covert channels, and the evolving role of AI with special guest Jacob Anderson, founder of Beyond Ordinary Software Solutions. With over 30 years of experience across industries like finance, defense, and entertainment, Jacob Anderson brings a unique perspective on everything from steganography in the age of AI, to the challenges of cryptanalysis, and the critical importance of securing legacy infrastructure. In this episode, you'll hear how today's cyber threats are changing—not just for governments or top-level spies, but for everyone. The conversation also explores the sometimes surprising ways AI is shaping both offensive and defensive tactics in cybersecurity, and why vigilance is more important than ever. Tune in as the team unpacks real-world examples, emerging industry trends, and practical advice for organizations juggling legacy and modern tech. Whether you're a cyber professional, a curious entrepreneur, or just trying to keep pace with the rapid evolution of technology, you won't want to miss the invaluable insights offered in today's show. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e372
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  Navigating Borderless Networks and Data Security with Yasir Ali Rerun 10.02.2026 41min

  Welcome to another insightful episode of "To The Point Cybersecurity," brought to you by Forcepoint! In today's episode, we're diving into the nuances of modern data security with our special guest, Yasir Ali, CEO of Polymer. As networks become increasingly borderless, the challenges for data security are escalating. We'll explore crucial technologies like Data Security Posture Management (DSPM) and Data Loss Prevention (DLP), and discuss the importance of reducing risk profiles and managing access control effectively. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e371
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  Stepping Beyond Checkbox Compliance: Building Real Security and Meeting Legal Demands with De'von Carter 03.02.2026 46min

  Welcome to this week's episode of "To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast," brought to you by Forcepoint! Your hosts, Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher, are joined by special guest De'von Carter, a leading cybersecurity expert with deep expertise in privacy law, risk management, and regulatory compliance. In this insightful conversation, De'von Carter draws from his unique background as a technologist turned privacy attorney, sharing how a holistic approach—combining legal, technical, and business perspectives—is essential for effective cybersecurity strategy. The trio dives into the evolving landscape of compliance, the impact of increasingly prescriptive regulations, and practical steps organizations (large and small) should take to operationalize new legal requirements. They also tackle the current challenges brought by AI, the complexities of global privacy laws, and the ever-present risks posed by both insiders and external threats. Whether you're interested in policy, technology, or the human side of cybersecurity, this episode offers a valuable look at what it really takes to keep data secure in today's rapidly changing environment. Stay tuned for expert insights, real-world advice, and a glimpse into how cybersecurity, law, and business intersect like never before! For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e370
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  Beyond Passwords: Modern Identity Defense in Practice with Jasson Casey and Josh Johansen 27.01.2026 24min

  Welcome back to Forcepoint's "To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast," where hosts Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher dive deep into the ever-evolving world of cybersecurity. In this episode, they're joined by Josh Johansen for a candid conversation about the real-life challenges of balancing security and usability—especially in high-turnover industries like hospitality. From the boons and barriers of passwordless authentication, to why onboarding new employees securely is a major undertaking, today's discussion tackles the complex people-side of tech. The team explores the future of identity-based security, the power of device-bound credentials, and the wisdom behind securing organizations without adding headaches for users. Along the way, you'll hear about the evolution of security technology—from two-factor authentication woes to cutting-edge cryptographic solutions—and what business leaders need to consider when mapping out their own security journeys. Plus, you'll get personal insights as Jonathan Knepher and Josh Johansen share the unexpected paths that led them to cybersecurity, and advice for anyone looking to break into this fast-paced industry. Whether you're a tech leader or just curious about what's next in identity, settle in for a frank, inspiring, and information-rich episode. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e369
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  Beyond Passwords: Identity Security as Hospitality's Frontline Defense with Jasson Casey and Josh Johansen 20.01.2026 28min

  Welcome back to Forcepoint's "To the Point Cybersecurity Podcast"! In this episode, Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepper kick off the new year by diving into a fresh and fascinating topic for the show: cybersecurity within the hospitality industry. Joining them are Jasson Casey, CEO and founder of Beyond Identity, and Josh Johansen, Director of IT for Brent Hospitality Group. The conversation unfolds like a real-world thriller, as Josh Johansen recounts a recent cyberattack targeting his organization—a phishing attempt that nearly fooled hotel staff with convincing fake invoices. The discussion expands into how passwordless technology stopped the attack, the ever-evolving world of AI-driven threats like voice cloning and document forgery, and how companies can keep up with sophisticated adversaries who increasingly use AI. Jasson Casey offers expert insight into the rapid advancements in impersonation techniques, sharing eye-opening examples from his own experimentation with voice cloning and underlining the need for robust attestation methods. Together, the group weighs in on privacy implications, the societal shifts brought by social media, and practical strategies for managing security in a complex hospitality ecosystem. If you're interested in the intersection of hospitality, AI, and cybersecurity—and what brands and individuals can do to protect themselves—this episode is one you can't miss. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e368