RIDEOUT: The Other Side of Hard

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  From Small-Town Kid to Everest, Equinox & IRONMAN CEO | Scott DeRue 14.08.2026 1j 41min

  Scott DeRue has spent his life creating experiences that push people beyond what they thought was possible. Ken sits down with his longtime friend and current CEO of The IRONMAN Group to talk about growing up in small-town North Carolina, being told during his first performance review that he “wasn’t smart enough,” walking away from a lucrative consulting career in search of purpose, becoming a University of Michigan professor and eventually the youngest dean of a top business school, and leaving the security of academia to help lead Equinox through the COVID crisis.  Scott also shares how mountaineering became one of the defining forces in his life, what it took to climb Everest and complete the Seven Summits, the terrifying risks of the Khumbu Icefall and descent from Everest, and why getting to the summit is only half the job.  Now leading The IRONMAN Group, Scott explains why he believes the company is ultimately in the “dream fulfillment business,” what he learned from rebuilding Equinox, why athlete feedback matters, and the decision to bring the men’s and women’s IRONMAN World Championship back together in Kona.  Ken and Scott also revisit the 2023 Gobi March in Mongolia—the race where they first met and Ken somehow went from having never run an ultramarathon or camped to winning the entire thing. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” AMP Fitness: amp.ai/rideout  Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Scott DeRue Intro (00:32) Gobi March Bond (01:46) Small Town Roots (02:02) Schoolwork And Drive (05:08) Sports And Pole Vault (06:05) UNC And Water Skiing (09:08) From Bio To Business (09:46) Boston Consulting Start (11:16) Sponsor Break Roka (12:56) Brutal Review Lesson (18:41) Quarter Life Crossroads (21:02) PhD Path To Michigan (25:58) Rapid Rise To Dean (28:34) Transformational Teaching (30:43) Money Vs Purpose (32:41) Restroom Empire Moment (34:43) Loving the Work (35:04) From Professor to Dean (37:26) Youngest Dean Pressure (38:52) Mission Driven Leadership (40:28) Sponsor Break Amp (41:04) Mountaineering Origin Story (46:16) Seven Summits Quest (50:02) Everest Risks and Resilience (52:18) Khumbu Icefall Focus (55:46) Summit and Descent Dangers (01:03:35) Equinox During Covid (01:08:51) Rebuilding and Ironman Pull (01:10:13) Ironman Obsession (01:10:43) Taking the CEO Call (01:11:50) Ironman Beyond Triathlon (01:12:51) Lifestyle and Identity (01:15:03) Feedback and Responsibility (01:15:33) Kona War Stories (01:18:00) Dream Fulfillment Mission (01:20:38) Kona Together Again (01:22:10) Designing Wave Starts (01:24:44) Midnight Finish Magic (01:29:43) Will He Race One (01:30:20) Gobi March Memories (01:34:04) Wild Characters and Lessons (01:39:27) Gratitude and Wrap Up (01:40:23) Subscribe and Sponsors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Jail, Navy SEALs, Fentanyl & the French Foreign Legion | Taylor Cavanaugh 12.08.2026 2j 26min

  Taylor Cavanaugh’s life has been a cycle of achievement, self-destruction, and rebuilding. Before becoming a Navy SEAL, Taylor had already been expelled from school, arrested repeatedly, survived a violent car crash, and served time in county jail. After multiple branches of the military turned him away, the Navy finally gave him a shot. Taylor made it through BUD/S and Hell Week and eventually served with SEAL Team 7 as a communications specialist, JTAC, and sniper. His deployments took him to Yemen and Iraq, where he called airstrikes, worked alongside local forces, and operated under rocket and mortar fire. But outside the teams, the same patterns that had followed him since his teenage years never fully disappeared. An aggravated assault case nearly sent him to prison. Another alcohol-fueled incident and a positive steroid test eventually ended his SEAL career. Civilian success followed, but so did Adderall, Xanax, opiates, and eventually fentanyl. Taylor went from working in real estate development and venture capital to withdrawing alone in Hawaii, living out of his truck, nearly broke and contemplating suicide. Instead of ending his life, he bought a one-way ticket to France. Taylor walked through the gates of the French Foreign Legion, surrendered his passport, was given a new identity, and started again at the bottom. He spent years running, cleaning toilets, training in the French Alps, deploying to Estonia and conducting jungle operations against illegal gold mining operations in French Guiana. Today, Taylor has turned the discipline that helped rebuild his own life into a coaching business focused on consistency, personal responsibility, and controlling the controllables. This is Taylor Cavanaugh’s story. Follow Taylor: @tcavofficial Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Wild Roman: wildroman.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT15” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Taylor Cavanaugh (00:20) Gloucester Rough Edges (01:27) Marine Base Upbringing (01:48) Pilots And Air Ops (04:53) JTAC Danger Close (07:38) High School Hustle (09:26) College Chaos And Crash (11:49) Rain Means Change (14:09) County Jail Reality (17:06) Sponsor Break Roka (19:43) Denied Then Navy Shot (22:56) BUDS Cold And Hell Week (29:26) Darkest Conditioning Runs (30:26) Running Form and Gait (31:54) Marathon Mindset Curse (33:03) Gobi Desert Stage Race (34:57) Skincare Ad Break (36:29) Joining SEAL Team 7 (37:19) Peer Evals and Rankings (38:18) Comms and JTAC Track (41:10) Sniper School and Stalking (45:10) Low Vis Intel Ops (46:54) Yemen Deployment Tension (48:56) Iraq Rockets and Base Build (52:32) Assault Charge Fallout (55:19) Court Deal in Boise (57:21) Paying Restitution Hard (57:48) Jail Then Back To Training (58:39) Probation In SEAL Life (01:00:13) Jimmy Buffett Golf Cart Bust (01:02:03) Steroid Test Career Fallout (01:06:22) Leaving Teams For Construction (01:07:27) Adderall Xanax Spiral (01:09:28) Opiates Return Then Fentanyl (01:12:32) High Functioning VC Hustle (01:16:07) Hawaii Withdrawal And Acid Ride (01:19:07) Homeless Suicidal Turning Point (01:23:03) One Way Ticket To Legion (01:24:43) Paris Hostels And Legion Gate (01:26:38) Passport Taken New Identity (01:27:23) Gate Shock Pullups Test (01:29:11) Barracks Vibes Recruit Types (01:30:34) Kenyan Runner Visa Hack (01:33:37) Gestapo Interviews Selection (01:36:32) Starting Over Cleaning Toilets (01:38:04) French Guiana Jungle Ops (01:40:39) Ukraine War Estonia Deployment (01:44:48) Barracks Fights Discipline (01:49:36) Legion Running Culture (01:52:34) Amazon Survival Gold Mines (01:55:19) Gold Flakes Oil Bugs (01:56:11) Amazon Jungle Hellscape (01:57:11) Thriving in Humidity (02:00:13) Running Shoes and Boots (02:01:57) Social Media Sparks Exit (02:12:32) Discipline and Agency (02:18:00) Coaching and Consistency (02:23:33) Closing Thanks and Plugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Four Brain Surgeries, Total Deafness, and Refusing to Break | McKinnon Galloway 07.08.2026 1j 31min

  McKinnon Galloway was diagnosed with NF2 at 16 after a routine MRI for a volleyball concussion revealed two brain tumors. What followed was years of chemotherapy, a phase-one clinical trial, four brain surgeries, radiation, facial paralysis, a cerebral stroke, and the complete loss of her hearing. Her third brain surgery became life-threatening when doctors discovered that her tumor had developed an extensive blood supply. McKinnon nearly bled out, woke up fully deaf, and learned that complications had prevented surgeons from placing the auditory brain implant she expected to receive. Months later, another surgery left her struggling to walk and unable to move one side of her face. McKinnon also opens up about her father’s alcoholism and suicide, the strength she inherited from her mother, the realities of navigating healthcare and insurance, and the daily isolation that can come with deafness. Rather than disappearing into everything she lost, McKinnon built a platform that bridges the deaf and hearing worlds. Now followed by more than one million people across social media, she advocates for better deaf technology, clearer patient communication, and a more personal approach to medicine through her mission of “Humanizing Healthcare.” Follow McKinnon on Instagram: @mckinnongalloway Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” AMP Fitness: amp.ai/rideout  Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet McKinnon (00:48) Living With NF2 (02:26) Growing Up Charlotte (04:20) Diagnosis At Sixteen (05:44) First Brain Surgery (08:16) Recovery And Questions (10:30) Roka Eyewear Sponsor (12:15) Costa Rica Sea Turtles (13:42) College And Family Strain (15:34) Trials Second Surgery (18:14) Losing Hearing Completely (20:55) Third Surgery Near Death (25:09) Deafness And Implants (27:08) Post Op Complications (30:56) Surgery Complications (32:54) Sponsor Break Amp (33:39) Mom Teaches Independence (35:37) Dad Addiction Spiral (40:55) Losing Her Father (45:03) Faith Trip Bethlehem (47:46) Radiation And Recovery (53:29) MRI Scare And Boston (57:20) Living With NF2 (59:51) Marriage And Work Talk (01:00:50) Insurance Costs Reality (01:02:44) Ambulance Bill Fight (01:03:48) Fees Everywhere Now (01:05:14) Tipping Gone Wild (01:06:18) Driving While Deaf (01:07:43) Handicap Parking Clash (01:10:01) Hardest Part Socializing (01:11:48) Hope for Nerve Repair (01:13:20) Deaf Tech Advocacy (01:14:00) Social Media Origin Story (01:17:06) Handling Online Trolls (01:19:49) Perks of Being Deaf (01:24:14) Humanizing Healthcare Mission (01:26:49) Authentic Content Approach (01:28:53) Brand Deals and Contact (01:29:53) Daily Work and Pivots (01:31:02) Wrap Up and Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  A School Shooting, a Shipwreck, and the Long Run to Sobriety | Mishka Shubaly 05.08.2026 2j 8min

  Mishka Shubaly has lived several lives: gifted student, touring musician, Columbia-trained writer, addict, shipwreck survivor, ultrarunner, Yale professor, and the editor who helped Ken Rideout turn his life into a book. Mishka joins Ken for a deeply personal conversation about growing up with a distant father, leaving home for college at 15, surviving a deadly school shooting, and watching his family lose everything shortly afterward. He recounts years of destructive drinking and drug use, getting shipwrecked in the Bahamas, walking for miles without food or navigation, and drinking his own urine shortly before being rescued. They also discuss the realization that finally pushed Mishka toward sobriety, the furious first run that changed his life, becoming an ultramarathoner, nearly joining a reality dating show, and how a cold email led Jeff Bezos to write the foreword to his book. Ken and Mishka reflect on addiction, anxiety, ambition, friendship, marriage, and the difficult process of believing that the life you have built might finally be enough. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Wild Roman: wildroman.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT15” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Mishka Joins the Show (00:44) Writing the Book Together (02:09) Authenticity Over Advice (03:57) Running Shoe Rabbit Hole (08:31) Frugal Life and Family Roots (12:48) Sponsor Break Roka Eyewear (14:24) Kids and Wastefulness (17:46) Sober Anxiety and Control (21:57) Ibogaine and Rewiring the Brain (23:29) Mishka’s Upbringing and Rocket Scientist Dad (27:34) Family Struggles and Parenting Reflections (32:42) Sponsor Break Wild Roman Skincare (33:46) Divorce Year and Dad Moves Away (34:39) Early College Leap (35:35) Fights and Trouble (36:02) Campus Shooting Trauma (38:29) Divorce and Downward Spiral (44:35) Addiction and New Perspective (48:50) Success and Enough (51:39) Family Pressure and Anxiety (57:36) From Acting to Writing (59:09) Dad Fallout and No Kids (01:03:46) New York and Columbia MFA (01:06:34) Playing It Cool (01:07:12) Celebrity Sauna Stories (01:09:31) Columbia Encouragement (01:11:40) Ivy League Aid Debate (01:13:33) Loans And Burnout (01:15:12) Music Life And Hoarding (01:18:39) Shipwreck Setup (01:22:06) Running Aground (01:25:30) Survival Walk Breakdown (01:30:44) Rescue And Aftermath (01:33:39) SEAL Prep Coincidence (01:35:46) Dating Show Tease (01:36:05) Reality Show Doubts (01:37:58) Dark Side of Reality TV (01:40:13) Lawyer Negotiation Tactics (01:42:20) Dodging the Dating Show (01:44:36) Sobriety Turning Point (01:48:49) First Furious Run (01:52:55) Ultra Lessons and New Highs (01:54:39) Kenya Stage Race Adventure (01:57:09) Love as the New Anchor (01:58:54) Withdrawal and Anxiety Hell (02:01:49) What’s Next Creatively (02:04:15) Bezos Foreword Story (02:06:44) Final Thanks and Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  One Life, Two Hearts: Surviving Cancer, Loss and Heart Failure | Dr. Dawn Mussallem 31.07.2026 1j 34min

  Dr. Dawn Mussallem was a young medical student when she collapsed and doctors discovered a 15-centimeter tumor wrapped around her heart. She was diagnosed with stage IV diffuse large B-cell lymphoma and told she had only months to live. She endured chemotherapy, a bone marrow transplant and radiation while continuing medical school, eventually graduating first in her class. But surviving cancer came at another cost: the treatment severely damaged her heart. Dawn developed advanced heart failure, received a pacemaker and defibrillator, lost her husband to sudden cardiac death and spent years fighting to stay alive for her daughter. In 2021, with her organs beginning to fail, she accepted a donor heart from a woman who had used intravenous drugs and carried hepatitis C. That transplant gave Dawn a second life. Now an integrative oncologist, endurance athlete and Chief Medical Officer at Fountain Life, Dawn joins Ken Rideout to share what she learned through cancer, grief, heart failure and transplantation. They also discuss the fundamentals of longevity that matter most, including fiber, complex carbohydrates, strength training, VO2 max, heart-disease screening, organ donation and the role of nutrition in cancer survivorship. This is a story about accepting what you cannot control, refusing to surrender your purpose and making every day of a borrowed life count. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” AMP Fitness: amp.ai/rideout  Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Dr Dawn (01:11) Ohio Roots and Early Running (02:35) Raising Healthy Kids (06:05) Athletics and Strength Training (09:15) College Fitness and Ms Fitness (10:41) Sponsor Break Roka Eyewear (12:22) Carbs Fiber and Performance (19:26) Path to Medicine and Mayo (23:21) Cancer Diagnosis and Survival (31:18) Chemo And Transplant (32:08) Hospital Bike Breakthrough (33:14) Exercise As Medicine (34:18) Transplant Process Explained (35:17) Isolation And Infection Control (36:26) Radiation And Tumor Limits (37:29) Heart Failure After Cancer (38:39) Fertility And IVF Struggles (41:07) Surprise Pregnancy Discovery (43:40) Postpartum Heart Failure Reveal (46:25) Diagnosis And Mayo Recovery (48:57) Devices And HRV Talk (50:36) Fountain Life Heart Data (53:44) Lifestyle And VO2 Priority (57:31) Precision Genomics Testing (01:01:32) Next Gen Lipid Drugs (01:02:16) Metabolic And Inflammation Tests (01:04:37) Loss And Resilience (01:07:21) Diet For Heart Reversal (01:10:35) Near Death And Transplant Listing (01:15:51) Donor Heart Dilemma (01:19:55) Transplant Recovery And Gratitude (01:23:35) Integrative Oncology Explained (01:26:05) Insurance And Breast Cancer Care (01:28:04) Hormone Blockers And Symptom Relief (01:32:09) Closing And Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Rejected TV Pitch to the World’s Wildest Animal Encounters | Mark Vins 29.07.2026 1j 49min

  Mark Vins is the co-founder and host of Brave Wilderness, one of the biggest wildlife channels on YouTube. Mark joins Ken to explain how a rejected television concept became a global media brand, why a video featuring the “cow killer” velvet ant gained hundreds of thousands of subscribers in a single day, and what it actually feels like to be stung by a murder hornet, bitten by a giant centipede, and envenomated by some of the world’s most painful creatures. He shares the safety protocols behind the videos, the risks of anaphylaxis, the physical toll of spending nearly 300 days a year traveling, and the lessons Brave Wilderness learned after entering the Hollywood and television system. Mark also takes Ken behind the scenes of filming mountain gorillas alongside armed rangers in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and making his first feature documentary, Reef to Ridge, in the Galápagos. The film follows the ecosystem from the ocean floor to the summit of Wolf Volcano, where fewer than 300 rare pink iguanas remain. This is the story of turning childhood exploration into a global wildlife platform—and using viral entertainment to bring millions of people closer to the natural world. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Athletic Nicotine: https://athleticnicotine.com/rideout Code "RIDEOUT" Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Mark Vins (00:46) What Is Brave Wilderness (01:44) Ohio Roots And Tennis (03:09) Film School And Early Hustle (05:20) From TV Rejection To YouTube (09:07) Sting Videos Go Viral (12:03) Sponsor Break Roka(13:43) Cow Killer Explained (16:34) Filming The Sting Safely (19:30) Anaphylaxis And EpiPens (26:46) Travel Life And Costa Rica (29:13) Poison Frogs And Toxins (32:59) Snakebites And Deadliest Snakes (37:12) Terrifying Cave Diving (38:13) Focus Supplement Ad (38:59) Hollywood Agency Lessons(45:47) Venom Basics Explained (47:04) Murder Hornet Nightmare (52:56) Centipede Bloodbath (56:42) Scorpions Fish and Fireworms (01:04:36) Gorillas and Ranger Risks (01:13:44) Rangers Fitness Talk (01:13:50) Favorite Trips Japan (01:14:42) Galapagos Feature Reveal (01:16:29) Wolf Volcano Expedition (01:17:51) Sharks And Finning (01:21:33) Dehydration Survival Stories (01:24:02) Pink Iguana Deep Dive (01:25:25) Volcano Tourism Risks (01:28:30) Peruvian Amazon Off Grid (01:30:49) Sandflies And Leishmaniasis (01:33:45) Global Wildlife Hotspots (01:35:27) Predators And Mountain Lions (01:42:04) Future Films And Running (01:45:13) Bee Swarms And Safety (01:48:05) Final Thanks And Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Brutal Road to a Tour de France Top 10 | Andrew Talansky 24.07.2026 1j 41min

  Andrew Talansky didn’t get on a road bike until he was 17. Seven years later, he finished 10th overall in the Tour de France. Andrew joins Ken Rideout to tell the story of his unlikely rise from getting dropped on Miami group rides to competing against the best cyclists in the world. He shares how a running injury led him to cycling, why he left college to chase the sport, and how a brutal experience living and racing in Italy nearly ended his career before it truly began. Andrew also takes Ken inside the realities of professional cycling: training with Levi Leipheimer, exchanging words with Lance Armstrong during his breakout ride at the Tour of the Gila, receiving offers from the world’s top teams, and entering the sport as it tried to rebuild trust after the doping era. He explains why even elite amateur cyclists cannot comprehend the level of the Tour de France, what it feels like to descend at highway speeds in a crowded peloton, how riders recover and survive for three straight weeks, and why Alpe d’Huez became his favorite climb while Mont Ventoux became his hardest. Andrew also reflects on winning the Critérium du Dauphiné, walking away from professional cycling while still in his prime, the burnout and missing support that influenced his retirement, and how those experiences now shape his work helping athletes and organizations build healthier high-performance environments. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Timeline: timeline.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Andrew Talansky (00:13) Miami Cycling Roots (02:01) From Running To Bikes (03:45) Gear And Community Support (06:29) Tour Dreams And Fast Progress (08:57) The Real Pro Gap (13:38) Tour Chaos And Crashes (15:52) Risky Descents And Training (20:26) Winning Juniors And Nationals (23:35) Europe Reality Check (26:34) Cal Giant Breakthrough (33:37) Lance Moment At Gila (36:16) WorldTour Offers Roll In (36:32) National Champ Group Ride (37:41) Body Types and Weight (38:08) Doping and Eating Culture (39:47) Blood Doping Reality (41:10) Why Doping Felt Normal (42:52) Racing Clean After Lance (45:10) Joining Slipstream in Italy (46:52) Neo Pro Lessons and TT Talent (48:11) First Pro Race Breakthrough (49:40) First Grand Tour Vuelta (50:35) Olympic Deal Rumors (53:09) First WorldTour Win (56:27) First Tour de France Spotlight (59:55) Equipment and Team Specs (01:02:38) Tour Results and Final Day Rules (01:04:39) Peloton Sportsmanship and Cars (01:08:03) Alpe d’Huez Memories (01:09:06) Crowds Gone Too Far (01:12:43) Team Radio Tactics (01:14:26) Domestiques And Bottles (01:15:14) Hardest Climb Ventoux (01:16:01) Post Stage Recovery Routine (01:19:01) Tour Hotels And Logistics (01:22:10) Malibu Riding Stories (01:27:22) Burnout And Retirement (01:29:46) Dauphine Win Chaos (01:32:04) Cobbles And Roubaix Fear (01:34:40) Triathlon Reality Check (01:37:46) Performance Coaching Today (01:39:40) Wrap Up And Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  From Bartender to Elite MMA Coach | Eric Nicksick 22.07.2026 1j 21min

  Eric Nicksick never planned on becoming one of the most respected coaches in MMA. He grew up in Las Vegas surrounded by football coaches, learning how to study film, lead a team, master the fundamentals, and separate himself through what Randy Couture later called “things that take no talent”: being early, being prepared, and doing the work. After football, Eric walked into Xtreme Couture before the gym had officially opened. He trained with world-class fighters, became its first paying member, and kept showing up. When Randy Couture asked him to run a single grappling class, Eric said yes. That class grew into a coaching career. Today, Eric has coached UFC champions Francis Ngannou and Sean Strickland and helped build one of MMA’s most respected teams. In this conversation, Eric shares how he learned striking from Ray Sefo, strategy from Randy Couture, and cornering through years of saying yes to every opportunity. He opens up about the danger fighters face, why young athletes need a life beyond competition, how he handles Sean Strickland’s intensity, and the trust he built with Francis Ngannou while helping him confront the wrestling and fear left behind by his first fight with Stipe Miocic. Eric also explains how his friendship with Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla has changed the way both men think about leadership, preparation, and coaching at the highest level.  Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Wild Roman: wildroman.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT15” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Warm Welcome and Hats (01:24) Origin Story Setup (01:52) Football Roots in Vegas (03:02) College Ball and Talent Gaps (05:45) Film Study and Fundamentals (10:30) Leadership and Humility (11:42) Roka Eyewear Ad Break (13:22) First Steps in Combat Sports (15:30) Extreme Couture First Day (18:44) Accidental Coach to Gym Manager (23:28) Learning Striking from Ray Sefo (26:38) Cage Geography Traps (27:45) Tape Study Coaching Edge (28:27) Imposter Syndrome Path (30:18) Learning to Corner (32:06) Saying Yes for Reps (33:41) Big Stage Gratitude (36:19) Skincare Ad Break (37:19) Bad Knockouts Aftermath (38:38) Backup Plans Identity (45:10) Coaching Sean Strickland (49:58) Locker Room Boundaries (50:32) Sparring Intensity Control (52:33) Gym Visitor Etiquette (54:25) Bar Guy Reality Check (56:04) Gym Trash Talk Payback (57:45) Francis Origin Story (59:53) Fear After Stipe Loss (01:02:26) Building Wrestling Confidence (01:06:08) Wild Sparring Partners (01:07:38) Trust and Family Bond (01:11:00) Culture and Gratitude Lessons (01:13:56) Travel and Perspective (01:15:47) Coaching With Joe Mazzulla (01:20:28) Wrap Up and Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  From $1 Paychecks to World Champion | Regis Prograis 17.07.2026 2j 6min

  Two-time world champion Regis "Rougarou" Prograis built his career the hard way. He started boxing late, lost everything when Hurricane Katrina destroyed his family's home, sold tickets to fund his early professional career, and eventually fought his way to the top of the sport, becoming a two-time world champion. But behind the belts was a very different story. Regis opens up about paying opponents just to get fights, rebuilding his life after Katrina, career-threatening injuries, management battles, devastating losses, and why he knew his career was coming to an end long before he officially retired. Most importantly, he shares something few elite fighters ever admit: before his final fight against Conor Benn, he didn't want to step into the ring. He was scared, mentally exhausted, and hoping something would happen so he wouldn't have to fight. Instead, he walked anyway. In this conversation, Regis explains why facing that fear ultimately gave him the peace to leave boxing on his own terms. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” AMP Fitness: amp.ai/rideout  Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Regis Joins the Show (00:24) Retirement and New Combat Plans (01:17) Leaving Boxing on His Terms (02:30) Business Moves After Fighting (04:06) New Orleans Roots and Early Sports (04:53) From Karate to Boxing (08:02) Red Dog Yard Gym Lessons (12:50) Sponsor Break Roka Eyewear (14:30) Katrina and Losing Everything (17:48) Starting Over in Houston (21:11) Savannah Gym and Elite Talent (27:50) Amateur Grind and Confidence (30:40) Sponsor Break Amp Training (31:16) Paying for Tournaments and Jobs (32:41) Family Background and Basketball Love (33:18) Meeting Allen Iverson (34:59) NBA Giants Up Close (35:39) Turning Pro And Paying Opponents (36:50) Ticket Sales Dollar Checks (39:11) Signing With Lou DiBella (40:26) ShoBox Knockout Run (41:54) Eye Injury And Going Broke (47:09) Big Win Joel Diaz Payday (49:22) New Management Wahlberg Berg (53:09) Indongo Statement Win (54:58) World Super Series Explained (57:09) Josh Taylor Fight Setup (58:23) UK Media Mind Games (01:00:49) Fight Night Crowd Influence (01:03:04) Judges And Close Calls (01:04:24) Taylor Confidence And Respect (01:08:07) Life After The Loss (01:11:08) Pandemic And Boxing Purgatory (01:14:40) Back To Champion Status (01:15:41) Movies With Peter (01:21:15) Manager Drama And Lawsuit (01:25:27) Matchroom And Style Adjustments (01:26:33) Haney Loss And Camp Distractions (01:33:33) Aftermath And Catterall Setup (01:35:49) Dropped and Injured (01:36:19) Respect for Catterall (01:36:49) Why Fight in UK (01:37:21) Manager Drama and Bad Deal (01:38:37) Injuries and Decline Signs (01:39:53) Vegas Reset and No Contracts (01:40:51) Conor Benn Netflix Stage (01:41:57) Camp Burnout and Doubt (01:44:07) Fight Day Fear to Switch On (01:49:18) Lessons from the Loss (01:54:34) Peace After Retirement (01:57:29) New Ventures and Businesses (01:58:57) Kids Summer and Fatherhood (01:59:40) Rougarou Mask Memories (02:01:39) Raising Kids Without Pressure (02:03:38) Old School Training Gear (02:04:30) Farewell and Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  He Started Running in College—Then Made Five Olympic Teams | Abdi Abdirahman 15.07.2026 1j 13min

  Abdi Abdirahman arrived in the United States as a refugee from Somalia in 1990. He spoke no English, settled with his family in Tucson, Arizona, and went through high school without ever competing as a runner. He did not discover the sport until his sophomore year at Pima Community College. Abdi showed up to his first practice wearing jeans and boots. Despite having no formal training, he finished second on the team. One week later, he ran 15:05 and won the 5,000 meters in his first track meet. That unexpected beginning launched one of the most remarkable careers in American distance running. Abdi became a four-time U.S. champion in the 10,000 meters and represented the United States at five Olympic Games across more than two decades. At 43, he finished third at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials and qualified for his fifth Olympic team. He also became the oldest male runner to reach the podium at the New York City Marathon. In this conversation, Abdi shares the story of leaving Somalia during civil war, adjusting to life in America, accidentally discovering his talent, racing legends like Meb Keflezighi and Haile Gebrselassie, and building a professional career that lasted far longer than almost anyone expected. He also opens up about the business behind professional running, the evolution of marathon training and super shoes, making money through prize purses and appearance fees, and why experience becomes so important over 26.2 miles. Today, Abdi divides his time between Tucson and Ethiopia, where he helps coach and mentor the next generation of elite runners. This is a conversation about talent, longevity, humility, and continuing to show up long after other people think your opportunity has passed. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Timeline: timeline.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Welcome Abdi (01:07) Somalia to Tucson (02:15) Starting Running Late (04:01) Jeans and Boots Debut (06:16) Scholarship to Arizona (08:26) Somalia Childhood (10:17) Sponsor Break (11:55) NCAA to Pro Life (13:11) Olympics and Selection (16:39) Masters Mindset (20:08) Shoe Deals and Money (23:58) Ethiopia and Altitude (27:12) Career Highlights (30:11) Training and Workouts (35:40) Boston 2018 Survival (36:52) Mitochondria Ad Read (37:19) Mitochondria Support Plug (38:25) Cold Rainy Race Start (39:49) Favorite Races Debate (40:44) Marathon Pacing Lessons (45:35) Fueling And Gel Evolution (47:30) Ultras And Recovery Runs (51:03) Biggest Wins And Coaches (54:44) Ethiopia Camp And Rivalries (59:10) Shoe Deals And Super Shoes (01:09:38) Community Book And Farewell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  From Army Airborne to Addiction Recovery | Evan Slaughter 10.07.2026 1j 47min

  Evan Slaughter grew up in Birmingham, Alabama in a conservative household before addiction changed the course of his life. After battling an early OxyContin addiction and completing rehab, he joined the U.S. Army, earned an Airborne contract, deployed to Afghanistan, and was injured in an IED blast. The pain medication prescribed after that injury pulled him back into addiction. What followed were years of PTSD, arrests, multiple rehabs, and trying to rebuild a life that kept slipping away. Everything changed in 2021. Today, Evan is better known as Fit2Serve, creating comedy videos seen by millions while using humor, honesty, and his own story to help others find hope. His viral skits may make people laugh, but the road that led there was anything but funny. In this conversation, Evan shares his father's addiction, his own battle with OxyContin, Army Airborne school, Afghanistan, PTSD, Veterans Court, recovery, psychedelics, purpose, and why "Fit to Serve" no longer means physical fitness—it means being equipped to serve others. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Wild Roman: wildroman.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT15” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Evan Slaughter (00:40) Growing Up Alabama (01:12) Church Life and Family Upheaval (01:50) Dad’s Addiction and Recovery (05:56) Finding Comedy Early (06:37) Stand-Up Dreams and Fear (12:38) Alpha Dad Skits and Garage Gym (14:30) Sponsor Break Roka (16:11) School Sports and College Detour (19:02) Lifting and Bench Press Talk (31:11) Sponsor Break Wild Roman (32:34) Dropping Out and Training Career (34:17) OxyContin Addiction and Rehab (37:01) Rehab to Enlistment (38:17) Choosing Army Infantry (39:40) Earning 18X Contract (41:41) Airborne School Basics (44:03) First Jump Nerves (46:56) Hard Landings and Mishaps (49:18) Afghanistan IED Blast (53:48) Pain Pills Spiral (56:38) PTSD and Coming Home (58:34) Pharmacy Sting Arrest (01:01:56) Veterans Court and Rehab (01:04:44) TikTok Breakthrough (01:09:03) Staying Sober and Creating (01:10:28) Influencer Advice and Work (01:12:36) Real Jobs Before Social (01:13:53) Time Value Mindset (01:15:28) Psychedelics For Recovery (01:20:28) DMT Lessons And Integration (01:24:10) Money Doesn't Fix Pain (01:26:51) Motorcycle And Simple Joys (01:30:53) Pickleball And Community (01:34:17) Fit To Serve Meaning (01:38:08) Nashville Move And Friends (01:39:00) Brand Deals Strategy (01:44:24) Wrap Up And Where To Find (01:46:16) Podcast Outro And Sponsors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  He Barely Played in College. Then Played 14 NFL Seasons. | Matt Cassel 08.07.2026 2j 26min

  Matt Cassel's football story shouldn't have happened. He spent his college career at USC backing up two Heisman Trophy winners, Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart, throwing just a handful of passes while wondering if he'd ever get a real opportunity. Most players would have transferred. Matt stayed ready. That decision changed his life. After being drafted by the New England Patriots, he learned behind Tom Brady until Brady suffered a season-ending injury in Week 1 of 2008. Overnight, Cassel went from anonymous backup to starting quarterback of one of the most scrutinized teams in sports. He led New England to an 11-5 season, earned a franchise tag, signed a $63 million contract, and went on to play 14 seasons in the NFL. In this conversation, Matt shares what he learned from Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, the pressure of replacing the greatest quarterback of all time, overcoming years without playing, navigating trades, injuries, personal loss, and why being ready before your opportunity arrives changed everything. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” AMP Fitness: amp.ai/rideout  Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters 00:00) Meet Matt Cassel (00:22) Dad Life and Flag Football (02:00) Leaving LA for Nashville (04:01) Growing Up and Playing Both Ways (05:01) Quarterback Jumps in Speed (07:40) NFL Film Study and Prep (08:32) Sponsor Break Roka (10:45) USC Teammates and Practice Wars (12:59) Tom Brady as Mentor (14:03) Stuck Behind Heisman Winners (16:46) Tight End Detour and Baseball Reset (18:24) Owen Hanson and Prison Reality (20:58) Pro Day and Wonderlic Chaos (24:33) Reading Defenses Like Chess (26:27) Randy Moss Freak Talent (27:49) Standing Tall in the Pocket (31:59) Formation Tricks and Counters (34:25) Sponsor Break Amp Training (35:28) Pro Day Lights Out to Draft Buzz (37:55) Selling the Backup Story (39:16) Finding an Agent (42:08) NFL Workouts Breakdown (43:55) Belichick Draft Call (46:23) Draft Day Celebration (49:48) Rookie Arrival in Foxborough (53:21) Patriots Culture Shock (56:22) Rookie Pay and Perks (59:51) Family and Dad’s Struggles (01:02:08) Dad’s Death During Season (01:05:59) Rookie Hazing and Dinner (01:11:53) Learning from Brady (01:13:07) Brady Work Ethic (01:13:56) Quarterback Perfection (01:15:44) Brady Injury Moment (01:17:10) Thrown Into Action (01:18:40) Bomb To Moss (01:19:52) Overnight Spotlight (01:22:29) Media And Sponsors (01:25:31) First Start Vs Jets (01:27:23) Brady Off Field Kindness (01:30:08) Franchise Tag Shock (01:33:30) Trade And Big Deal (01:36:00) New Life In KC (01:38:22) Coordinator Quits Chaos (01:43:38) Pressure And Mindset (01:47:05) Chiefs Turnaround (01:49:02) Appendix Emergency (01:51:21) Playing Post Surgery (01:52:34) Bernard Pollard Stories (01:55:26) Minnesota And London Start (01:58:01) Bridgewater Mentorship (01:59:29) Foot Injury Nightmare (02:04:36) Traded To Dallas Chaos (02:07:50) Cowboys Culture Shock (02:09:15) Facilities And Gear (02:13:12) Game Balls And Deflategate (02:20:28) Life After Football (02:23:24) Final Thanks And Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Olympian Who Nearly Died Making Weight | Danny O'Connor 03.07.2026 1j 42min

  Danny O'Connor looked like he had everything. A state wrestling champion. An Olympian. One of the top professional boxers in America with a world title shot finally within reach. Behind the scenes, almost nobody knew he had been battling an eating disorder for years. What began as extreme weight cutting in high school wrestling evolved into a life-threatening cycle of starvation, binge eating, dehydration, and dangerous weight cuts that nearly cost him everything. Before the biggest fight of his career, Danny collapsed while trying to make weight, was rushed to the ICU, and watched his dream of becoming world champion disappear. In this conversation, Danny opens up about growing up in Massachusetts, dropping out of school, turning his life around through boxing, making the U.S. Olympic team, the hidden reality of weight-class sports, and the long road to recovering from an eating disorder that almost killed him. This is a conversation about obsession, identity, recovery, and learning that the toughest opponent isn't always standing across the ring. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Athletic Nicotine: https://athleticnicotine.com/rideout Code "RIDEOUT" Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Danny O'Connor (00:43) Growing Up in Sports (01:43) Wrestling Found His Calling (04:14) Weight Cutting Obsession (06:14) Laxatives and Hidden Suffering (08:47) Grades Collapse and Dropping Out (10:54) Arrests and Losing Control (21:40) Court Wake Up Call (23:53) Boxing Saves His Life (27:15) Golden Gloves to Olympic Dream (29:59) Defensive Style and Sparring (33:06) Olympic Trials Outsider (34:01) Sponsor Break Athletic Nicotine (34:45) Trials Heartbreak (35:36) Beating Future Gold (37:11) Beijing Team Breakdown (38:33) Turning Pro Decision (39:48) Weight Cutting vs Disorder (43:20) Gym Hops and Undefeated Run (44:29) First Loss and Texas Move (48:31) Binge Eating Reality (53:20) Daily Yo-Yo Chaos (56:11) Missing Weight Fallout (01:03:41) WBC Shot in Fresno (01:05:43) Urges and Survival Hacks (01:09:07) Binge Spiral at Home (01:10:02) Stepping Away for Help (01:12:02) Learning Recovery Tools (01:14:16) Relapse in Training Camp (01:16:23) Weigh In Day Collapse (01:21:37) Aftermath and Perspective Shift (01:26:28) Specialized Treatment Begins (01:30:31) Freedom and Maintenance (01:35:50) Advice and Raising Awareness (01:39:04) Book Plug and Closing (01:41:12) Podcast Outro and Sponsors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Boston, Addiction, The Town, 12 Years Sober | George Carroll “Slaine” 01.07.2026 1j 53min

  He taught himself to rap at nine years old, co-founded the rap supergroup La Coka Nostra, got discovered by Ben Affleck for Gone Baby Gone, and went on to act in The Town, Killing Them Softly, and Joker. What almost nobody saw was what was happening behind the scenes. For 23 years Slaine battled alcohol and addiction, through cocaine, OxyContin, and heroin, while chasing two careers most people told him were impossible. It cost him his marriage, his home, and nearly his life, until the only thing that finally outweighed the addiction was the fear of losing his son. In this conversation, Slaine opens up about growing up in the chaos of Boston, the drug culture that swallowed his generation, the record deal he was smart enough to turn down, auditioning drunk for Ben Affleck, hitting rock bottom as a father, the phone call outside a bar that saved his life, getting sober on March 3, 2014, and building Charles River Recovery, a treatment center that has helped more than 7,500 people. This is a conversation about identity, addiction, redemption, and giving it away to keep it. Thank you to our sponsors Our Title Sponsor ROKA: www.roka.com Code “RIDEOUT” Wild Roman: wildroman.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT15” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Slaine (02:00) Boston Neighborhood Chaos (04:10) Childhood Trauma Unpacked (05:00) Fatherhood And Hindsight (08:23) First Drink Relief (09:42) Cocaine The Cheat Code (11:48) Eyewear Ad Break (13:20) Crabs In A Bucket (16:40) OxyContin Epidemic Boston (18:50) Film School Outsider (20:00) Boston Hardens You (24:50) ADHD As A Superpower (28:00) NYC Underground Comeup (31:31) Skincare Ad Break (34:48) The Deal He Refused (39:00) Squatting In A Warehouse (41:30) La Coka Nostra Born (44:00) 13,000 CDs Sold (46:00) Herald Story Affleck Calls (48:00) Drunk Audition For Affleck (51:56) Cleaned Up For Set (53:40) Prime Rib And A Warehouse (56:15) Boston Film Tax Credit (58:00) Vision Board Comes Alive (01:01:00) It All Hits At Once (01:15:45) Losing Everything (01:20:52) Failing As A Father (01:24:10) The Day It Stuck (01:26:57) The News That Should Have Broken Him (01:28:04) The Call Outside The Bar (01:30:00) Learning Humility (01:33:00) Uncle George (01:34:40) The One Belief (01:42:53) Building Charles River Recovery (01:48:20) Don’t Fit In A Box (01:51:15) How To Get Help (01:52:47) Farewell And Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  He Fought for a World Title with Lyme Disease | Mike Lee 26.06.2026 1j 31min

  He graduated from Notre Dame, signed with Top Rank, fought at Madison Square Garden and Cowboys Stadium, starred in national Subway commercials, and earned a shot at a world title. What almost nobody saw was what was happening behind the scenes. For years Mike battled chronic pain, autoimmune disease, misdiagnoses, and Lyme disease while trying to keep his career alive. He fought through broken ribs, endless medications, and training camps where his body was telling him to stop long before his mind would listen. In this conversation, Mike opens up about growing up in Chicago, the pressure to make his father proud, becoming one of boxing's top contenders, the relief that came after his only professional loss, finding purpose beyond the ring, and why he now believes health is the greatest fight of all. This is a conversation about identity, resilience, and knowing when enough is enough. Thank you to our sponsors Wild Roman: wildroman.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT15” Timeline: timeline.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Mike Lee (00:24) Subway Sponsorship Story (02:05) Chicago Roots Boxing Start (03:43) Notre Dame Bengal Bouts (04:35) Golden Gloves Breakthrough (06:18) Dad Pressure Motivation (08:18) Broken Rib Hospital Night (10:13) Caleb Plant Fight Setup (11:28) Weight Cut Autoimmune Struggles (14:27) Fight Stoppage Relief (17:29) Skincare Ad Break (18:53) Career Perspective Big Moments (20:49) Cowboys Stadium Jerry Jones (24:11) Why Fighting Captivates (25:07) Turning Pro With Top Rank (26:56) Early Pro Opponents (27:32) Target on My Back (27:59) Grooming vs Real Threats (29:46) UFC Losses vs Boxing (31:16) Money and Corruption (32:27) Why Losses Matter (34:57) Top Rank Lion’s Den (36:25) Spence Crawford Aftermath (38:48) Gym Culture and Identity (45:50) Reading Fighters on the Bag (47:11) Mitochondria Ad Break (49:58) Fatigue and Quiet Quitting (54:46) Life After the Spotlight (57:47) Lyme Misdiagnosis Journey (59:25) Hospital Rock Bottom (59:56) Functional Medicine Pivot (01:00:37) Comeback Fight Hollow Win (01:01:36) Opioids to Cannabinoids (01:02:29) Soul CBD vs THC Brand (01:03:35) Hemp Ban and Lobbying (01:08:15) Alcohol vs Cannabis Shift (01:13:36) Edibles Safety and Dosing (01:17:34) Pivoting Beyond Hemp (01:19:50) Kids Online and AI Future (01:28:40) Farewell and Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  The Crack Addict Who Became a Med Student | David Millar 24.06.2026 1j 25min

  David Millar grew up at the Jersey Shore surrounded by addiction, promising himself he would never become like the people he watched struggle around him. Instead, by age 20, he was deep into alcohol, cocaine, and crack addiction. He dropped out of college, cycled through psych wards, detox centers, and rehabs, slept in the woods, stole to survive, and believed drugs would define the rest of his life. Then everything changed. David got sober, rebuilt his life one day at a time, rediscovered running, returned to school, and eventually earned acceptance into medical school despite being told his past would hold him back. Today, he is seven years sober, an ultrarunner, medical student, coach, and one of the most powerful voices in recovery. In this conversation, David shares the reality of addiction, life inside psych wards, sleeping in the woods, the treatment program that saved him, why running became his medicine, and how he transformed an addictive personality into a force for growth. This is a conversation about addiction, recovery, discipline, and what becomes possible when you refuse to quit. Thank you to our sponsors Athletic Nicotine: https://athleticnicotine.com/rideout Code "RIDEOUT" Rho Nutrition: https://rhonutrition.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet David Millar (00:47) Running Discipline Talk (02:27) Roka Eyewear Sponsor (03:56) Beach Town Upbringing (05:23) First Drink Turning Point (08:52) Fentanyl Reality Check (11:22) Running and Recovery (12:08) College Dropout Spiral (13:32) Cross Country Comeback (15:17) Athletic Nicotine Sponsor (15:52) Cocaine at Sixteen (20:42) Work Ethic Over Talent (24:31) Nursing School Collapse (26:57) Homeless in the Woods (28:51) Stealing To Survive (29:26) Florida Detox Escape (30:59) Detox System Gaming (31:40) Sponsor Break NAD Plus (32:46) First Psych Ward Hold (35:50) Locked Ward Reality (37:48) Coke To Crack Shift (40:00) Stimulants And Meth Talk (41:01) Recovery Spark At 20 (43:39) LA Boot Camp Sober Living (46:55) Accountability Culture (51:32) Early Sobriety Pain (54:18) Sobriety Mindset Shift (55:21) Addictive Drive Reframed (57:01) Back to School Sober (01:00:01) Pre Med Leap and MCAT (01:01:12) Hiding Recovery to Get In (01:03:07) Sober Edge in Med School (01:05:06) Rotations and Daily Grind (01:06:34) Training While Studying (01:08:28) Choosing a Specialty (01:09:26) Alcohol Guidelines Critique (01:11:25) Treat Addiction Not Symptoms (01:13:58) Subutex and Vivitrol Path (01:17:32) GLP Drugs and Cravings (01:18:59) Fitness and Running as Medicine (01:22:46) Closing Thanks and Where to Find Him (01:24:08) Subscribe Sponsors and Book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  From Tour Wins to Barely Holding a Club | Scott Stallings 19.06.2026 1j 45min

  Scott Stallings is one of the fittest players to ever walk the PGA Tour. He grew up between Worcester, Massachusetts and Oak Ridge, Tennessee, walked on at Tennessee Tech after the program he dreamed of passed on him, and turned himself into a three-time PGA Tour winner over a fourteen-year career. Then, at the 2024 Players Championship, one swing into the lip of a fairway bunker tore his shoulder and the nerve out of his elbow. Three surgeries in fourteen months followed. During a comeback round at eleven under, the nerve tore loose again and his hand went white on the green. Three different doctors gave him the same answer: the golf he knew how to play was over. In this conversation, Scott opens up about losing the identity he had built his life around, running the Boston Marathon to survive the rehab, getting humbled in occupational therapy, and a surgeon asking whether he wanted to hold his daughter’s hand walking down the aisle. We also talk about choosing his family over one more swing, hosting Knoxville’s Korn Ferry Tour event, training for 29029, playing alongside Tiger Woods, and what the other side of hard looks like when the thing that defined you is gone. One of the most honest conversations we’ve had. Thank you to our sponsors Rho Nutrition: https://rhonutrition.com/ Code “RIDEOUT” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Scott Stallings (00:14) Roots and Accents (01:34) Golf Beginnings (02:02) Tiger Spark Moment (03:20) Why Golf Connects (03:58) Speedgolf Explained (06:08) Growing the Game (08:22) Late Bloomer Path (11:36) Tour Card Reality (13:52) Life on the Road (14:31) Never Off a Heater (19:43) Heater Ends Fast (20:38) Sponsor Break NAD (21:48) Money and Mindset (25:44) Winning Changes Everything (29:43) Imposter Syndrome Drive (32:11) Runner Mindset Parallels (35:46) Competitive Lens (36:34) Easy Days Discipline (37:06) Golf Injury Breakdown (38:36) Three Surgeries Rehab (40:39) Running Boston Goal (43:29) Boston Marathon Joy (47:45) Big Marathon Logistics (49:55) Return to Golf Plan (55:09) Elbow Setback Scare (58:49) Doctors End Career (01:02:53) Nerve Surgery Recovery (01:05:29) Identity Family Shift (01:06:54) Career Highlights Tiger (01:11:31) Majors Versus Regular (01:12:51) Major Prep Logistics (01:13:50) Slow Practice Rounds (01:15:44) Golf Course Fights (01:17:48) Fighting Levels and Jiu Jitsu (01:20:42) Weather Mental Edge (01:22:37) Memorial and Tiger Story (01:23:52) Tiger Crowd Etiquette (01:28:02) Tiger Trash Talk 67 (01:31:32) LIV and Golf Future (01:33:41) Walking Miles and Ultras (01:35:33) 29029 Training Tips (01:40:17) Sponsors and Next Steps (01:42:54) Closing and Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  He Played for the Celtics on OxyContin | Chris Herren 17.06.2026 1j 45min

  Chris Herren grew up in Fall River, Massachusetts, a basketball city where making it meant everything. He earned a scholarship to Boston College, starred at Fresno State, and did what every kid in his hometown only dreamed of. He pulled on a Boston Celtics jersey. What almost no one knew was that he did it as an addict. Cocaine in college gave way to OxyContin and then heroin in the NBA. Chris played some of the biggest games of his life high, chasing his next fix between practices, until addiction cost him his career, his health, and nearly his family. In 2008, after years of running, Chris got sober, and he has stayed sober every day since. He founded The Herren Project and Herren Wellness, and now travels the country telling the truth about addiction to anyone who will listen. In this conversation, Chris opens up about growing up in Fall River, the secret he carried through the NBA, the night it all came apart, the moment his wife told him the truth, and what it means that his kids have never seen him high. This is a conversation about addiction, honesty, family, and the daily work of staying clean. Thank you to our sponsors Timeline: timeline.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT” Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Chris Herren (01:06) Fall River Roots (03:35) Basketball Junkie Book (08:58) How Addiction Began (13:04) BC to Fresno State (19:01) NBA Draft Journey (25:22) Welcome to the NBA (29:57) Trade to Celtics Dread (34:55) Shipping the stash (35:42) FedEx obsession in Dallas (36:38) Money gone and secrets (38:58) Dealer in Celtics uniform (42:33) Cut and Europe calls (43:28) Bologna withdrawal and heroin (54:38) Turkey hustle for dope (56:26) China forced sobriety relapse (01:02:42) Iran risks and taxi drops (01:06:49) Train crash to street life (01:08:49) Rock Bottom Checklist (01:10:21) Relief After Losing Everything (01:10:41) Overdoses Before Narcan (01:13:24) Nurse Intervention to Treatment (01:13:59) Daytop Program and Relapse (01:19:30) Recovery Structure That Worked (01:22:24) Rebuilding Through Coaching (01:24:10) Speaking and Service Mission (01:26:25) Holistic Rehab Model (01:28:28) Funding Scholarships and Donors (01:31:56) Family Healing and Milestones (01:34:30) Parenting and Sports Boundaries (01:43:23) Closing Thanks and Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Hunting 80,000 Deer to Save Hawaii | Jake Muise 12.06.2026 1j 24min

  Jake Muise grew up in rural Canada hunting, fishing, and living off the land. A Division I volleyball scholarship brought him to Hawaii, but a dorm room mix-up changed the course of his life forever. After being welcomed into a local Molokai family, Jake developed a deep connection to Hawaiian culture and became fascinated by Hawaii's invasive axis deer problem. What began as an obsession eventually became Maui Nui Venison, one of the most innovative food and conservation companies in the world. Today, Maui Nui operates a USDA-certified wild harvest system unlike anything else in existence, balancing deer populations while providing some of the most nutrient-dense red meat available. In this conversation, Jake shares the story behind Maui Nui, how he helped remove illegally introduced deer from Hawaii's Big Island, the challenges of building a first-of-its-kind USDA-approved harvesting system, and the leadership principles that power one of the most disciplined teams you'll ever encounter. This is a conversation about obsession, conservation, entrepreneurship, culture, leadership, and doing meaningful work that lasts. Thank you to our sponsors Helix Sleep: http://helixsleep.com/rideout  Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Welcome to Kona (00:20) Ironman Kona Stories (02:06) Jake’s Roots in Canada (02:58) Volleyball to Hawaii (06:12) Dorm Mixup and Local Life (09:44) Molokai Culture Explained (11:34) Meeting His Future Wife (15:03) Leading Maui Nui’s Team (20:15) Sponsor Break Helix Sleep (21:19) Origins of Maui Nui (23:19) Drought Sparks the Mission (25:53) Axis Deer Institute Hustle (26:54) Illegal Deer on Big Island (29:46) Infrared Night Hunting Tech (32:30) USDA Approval Challenge (39:16) Practicing Before Inspection (40:24) The USDA Ride Along (42:20) Remortgage to Scale (43:42) Pitching Passion Investors (46:53) Balancing Deer Populations (50:28) USDA Rules and Marksmanship (55:45) Inside the Night Harvest (58:35) Holo Ai Community Giveaway (01:04:59) Humble Hungry Smart Hiring (01:14:02) Gamified Discipline Experiments (01:20:59) Graduation and Farewell (01:22:52) Podcast Wrap and Subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  Dyslexia. Racism. The NFL. | Chris Spencer 10.06.2026 1j 53min

  Chris Spencer grew up in rural Mississippi working cotton fields, facing racism firsthand, and struggling with dyslexia throughout school. Football became the one place where everything made sense. That path eventually took him from being one of the top recruits in the country to Ole Miss, where he played alongside Eli Manning, before becoming the 26th overall pick in the NFL Draft and spending a decade in the league. But this conversation goes far beyond football. Chris shares the lessons he learned from his family, the story behind a recruiter offering $100,000 cash that his mother refused, how dyslexia became his greatest advantage, and the challenges of building an identity after the NFL. Today, Chris is the founder of TeamQ, an AI-driven platform helping organizations identify and develop the intangibles that drive performance. This is a powerful conversation about resilience, self-awareness, and turning adversity into opportunity. Thank you to our sponsors Wild Roman: wildroman.com/rideout Code “RIDEOUT15” Athletic Nicotine: https://athleticnicotine.com/rideout Code "RIDEOUT" Ken’s book now available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Chapters (00:00) Meet Chris Spencer (00:52) Mississippi Roots (02:50) Racism and Resilience (06:13) Mom’s Guiding Principles (08:08) Football Finds Him (11:29) First Pads Reality Check (14:49) Size, Diet, and Position (17:13) From Fun to Future (20:29) Dyslexia as Superpower (25:15) Training and Powerlifting (29:54) Recruiting Goes National (31:09) Football Privilege Fame (32:15) Recruiting Home Visits (32:43) Cash Offer Rejected (35:37) Choosing Ole Miss (38:22) Team Culture Fit (41:30) Freshman Weight Room (46:10) Speed Technique Reality (47:30) Prop 48 Redshirt (49:13) Becoming Eli Center (53:12) NFL Draft Projection (58:15) IMG Combine Prep (59:24) Seattle Scheme Clues (01:00:06) Draft Night Surprise (01:03:35) Rookie Deal Holdout (01:07:29) First NFL Snaps (01:09:53) Money and Family First (01:13:05) Super Bowl Rookie Year (01:15:28) Beast Mode Arrives (01:18:23) Lockout and Leaving Seattle (01:21:23) Choosing the Bears (01:22:28) Giants Deal Falls Apart (01:23:36) Chicago Coach Conflict (01:24:50) Thrown Into Guard Midgame (01:27:28) Proving Toughness Through Injuries (01:31:47) Choosing Nashville and Settling Down (01:32:49) COVID House Sale and New Friendship (01:36:05) Building TeamQ After Football (01:40:13) How TeamQ Measures Intangibles (01:44:41) Onsite Therapy and Microtraumas (01:50:18) Where to Find TeamQ (01:51:54) Subscribe and Sponsor Shoutouts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices