The Application Security Podcast

The Application Security Podcast

Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut
Land Verenigde Staten
Taal EN-US
Afleveringen 301
Laatste 28.07.2026

Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut explore the strategies, projects, and tactics that make application security professionals successful. They cover topics like threat modeling, OWASP, DevSecOps, and security champions, explaining details in an educational way for newcomers. Chris Romeo is CEO of Devici and a General Partner at Kerr Ventures, while Robert Hurlbut is a Principal Application Security Architect at Aquia.

Afleveringen

  • Isaac Evans - AppSec in the Age of AI 28.07.2026 49min
    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with Isaac Evans, co-founder and CEO of Semgrep, to talk about how AI is reshaping application security faster than almost anyone expected. Isaac walks us through why CI is losing its place as the central security control point, replaced by deep background jobs that hunt for vulnerabilities using large models and real-time plugins that sit inside coding agents and force them to regenerate code until it meets an organization's security bar. We dig ...
  • José Carlos Chávez - When Museums Get Hacked: OWASP Top 10 Lessons from Heists 21.07.2026 52min
    Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with Jose Carlos Chavez from Okta to break down the OWASP Top 10 for 2025 and what actually changed since 2021. We trace Jose's path from software engineering and observability into security, dig into why broken access control still holds the number one spot despite mature tooling, and ask the question that never seems to get old: why is injection still a top five risk after decades of parameterized queries and ORMs? Jose walks us through the grow...
  • Michael Burch - AI-Enabled Citizen Developers 16.06.2026 48min
    Send us Fan Mail AI adoption is accelerating faster than most organizations know how to handle it, and the gap between curiosity and confident use is where things go wrong. Michael Burch, VP of AI Enablement and Acceleration, joins to break down what it actually takes to move teams from "interested in AI" to using it responsibly and effectively in their day-to-day work. He shares why successful adoption depends less on the technology itself and more on trust, clear guidance, and making AI app...
  • Josh Grossman--AI & SAST: Is it a match? 02.06.2026 40min
    Send us Fan Mail AI coding tools are accelerating development fast, but they’re also exposing the limits of traditional AppSec tooling. Josh Grossman, CTO of Bounce Security and longtime AppSec consultant, joins the podcast to break down AGHAST, his new open-source security tool that combines static analysis with AI to uncover business logic flaws and authorization issues that traditional scanners miss. FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast ➜LinkedIn: The Application Securit...
  • Dwayne McDaniel -- Secrets Sprawl and How AI is Impacting Secrets 14.05.2026 45min
    Send us Fan Mail GitGuardian found 29 million hard-coded secrets leaked in public GitHub commits in a single year, a 34% jump and the biggest spike they've ever recorded. Dwayne McDaniel joins to break down why AI coding tools, MCP servers, and a false sense of security in private repos are making the problem worse, and what it'll actually take to fix it. Check out the report here - https://www.gitguardian.com/files/the-state-of-secrets-sprawl-report-2026. Dwayne McDaniel is a Principal Devel...
  • Tanya Janca - Secure Vibe Coding 30.04.2026 47min
    Send us Fan Mail AI isn’t just helping developers anymore; it’s writing the code, and that changes everything. In this episode, Tanya Janca breaks down “vibe coding,” the hidden security risks behind it, and how teams need to rethink AppSec from the ground up. If you’re building with AI, this is the wake-up call you can’t afford to miss. Tanya Janca, AKA SheHacksPurple, is an author, founder, trainer, speaker, software developer, but most of all, a nerd obsessed with security. She speaks and ...
  • Caroline Wong--The AI Cybersecurity Handbook 21.04.2026 44min
    Send us Fan Mail Caroline Wong, author of The AI Cybersecurity Handbook and Chief Strategy Officer at Axari, is back! Caroline shares how AI is rapidly changing AppSec, driving massive increases in code, accelerating risk, and challenging traditional security practices. The conversation covers AI-generated code, trust and explainability, and how security teams must adapt to keep up. FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @AppSecPodcast ➜LinkedIn: The Application Security Podcast ➜YouTube: https:/...
  • Steve Wilson--OpenClaw and Advanced AI Agents 15.04.2026 49min
    Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the Application Security Podcast, Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut welcome back Steve Wilson, a global leader in AI security and Chief AI and Product Officer at Exabeam, as well as founder of the OWASP Gen AI Security Project. Steve shares how his AI assistant was “hacked” using a simple phishing attack, highlighting a major shift in security—AI agents behave more like humans than traditional software. The conversation explores how this changes the threat mo...
  • Brad Geesaman - Redefining AppSec with AI: Shrinking Toil, Expanding Impact - How LLMs are able to reduce toil in triage-heavy AppSec workflows 28.10.2025 42min
    Send us Fan Mail Brad Geesaman, Principal Security Engineer at Ghost, joins the podcast today to explore how AI and large language models are transforming the world of application security. The discussion starts with the concept of "toil"—the repetitive, exhausting work that drains AppSec teams as they struggle to keep up with mountains of security findings and alerts. Brad shares his insights on how LLMs can provide meaningful leverage by handling the heavy lifting of triage, classification,...
  • OWASP Candidate Debate - 2025 Edition 15.10.2025 1u 8min
    Send us Fan Mail In this special episode of the Application Security Podcast we meet nine of the OWASP Board of Directors candidates. Each candidate discusses their unique qualifications, experiences, and vision for OWASP's future. Topics include enhancing OWASP's impact, improving outreach and education, securing funding, and engaging local chapters. Don't miss this insightful debate as these candidates share their strategies to help secure a brighter future for OWASP. FOLLOW OUR SO...
  • Francesco Cipollone - Agentic AI Manifesto 23.09.2025 33min
    Send us Fan Mail Francesco Cipollone, the CEO of Phoenix Security, shares his extensive experience in AI and security, discussing the crucial difference between true AI agents and glorified chatbots. Learn why Phoenix Security utilizes six different LLMs instead of a single super agent. Understand the sobering economics behind AI implementation and the importance of adopting AI responsibly. Get practical advice on integrating AI agents to enhance, not replace, human capabilities, while touchi...
  • Simon Gibbs & Devika Gibbs -- Building Bridges with Games 16.09.2025 36min
    Send us Fan Mail Simon and Devika Gibbs, the innovative minds behind Cybersec Games, join us on the episode today. Discover how the Gibbs duo are revolutionizing the way we teach and learn security concepts through interactive gaming. Learn about their journey from developing stationary for agile teams to delving into the world of threat modeling games like Elevation of Privilege. We talk about the power of gamification in cybersecurity education, and get the inside scoop on their Cybersecuri...
  • Akansha Shukla - Modern AppSec: Securing APIs with Threat Modeling and DevSecOps 02.09.2025 35min
    Send us Fan Mail Our guest today is Akansha Shukla, an information security professional with over 10 years of experience in application security, DevSecOps, and API security. We’re discussing why API security remains one of the least mature areas of AppSec today and exploring the challenges developers face when securing APIs. Akansha shares her insights on incorporating APIs into threat modeling exercises, the ongoing struggles with API discovery and inventory management, and the authorizati...
  • Getting Ready for the EU CRA 20.08.2025 40min
    Send us Fan Mail The European Union's Cyber Resilience Act is set to revolutionize how we approach product security worldwide. In this episode, we sit down with application security expert Nariman Aga-Tagiyev to break down everything you need to know about this legislation. Nariman has over 20 years of software development experience and today he’s sharing his expertise with us. Learn what the EU CRA is and why it matters for global software companies, key compliance requirements, and how OWA...
  • Marisa Fagan - Measuring Security Culture 05.08.2025 50min
    Send us Fan Mail Marisa Fagan, Head of Product at Katilyst and veteran security culture expert joins us today to share practical strategies for building and scaling security champions programs that actually work, from designing effective pilots to avoiding common pitfalls that can derail your initiatives. Learn how to motivate developers using the SAPs model (Status, Access, Power, Stuff), why getting management buy-in is crucial before launching, and discover the metrics that truly dem...
  • Aram Hovsepyan -- Your Security Dashboard is Lying to You: The Science of Metrics 22.07.2025 40min
    Send us Fan Mail Aram Hovsepyan joins the podcast today to chat about the misconceptions behind common security metrics. Aram tells us how total vulnerability counts and CVSS scores can be misleading and he introduces us to the Goal Question Metric framework, this framework is a better approach to building truly effective security dashboards. Learn about the critical qualities of good metrics and how to ensure that your metrics accurately reflect your organization's security posture and readi...
  • Sean Varga -- OWASP Top 10 for AppSec Sales 15.07.2025 47min
    Send us Fan Mail We’re discussing the intersections of application security (AppSec) and sales strategy with our guest, Sean Varga. Sean shares the unique challenges and best practices in AppSec sales, like the importance of empathy, understanding customer needs, and community participation. Learn about the OWASP top 10 for AppSec Sales and discover how to achieve success by aligning with customer goals, maintaining detailed living documents, and fostering strong partnerships. FOLLOW OU...
  • Sarah-Jane Madden -- What AI means for AppSec 09.07.2025 37min
    Send us Fan Mail Sarah Jane Madden joins us to discuss the evolving role of AI in software development. We reflect on the changes and challenges posed by AI, including the potential for over-reliance and the misconception that traditional software engineering practices like the SDLC are obsolete. The conversation explores the nuances of AI-generated code, emphasizing the importance of maintaining foundational engineering skills and a critical understanding of the tools used. Madden shares ins...
  • Dag Flachet -- Kaizen for your Appsec Program 17.06.2025 35min
    Send us Fan Mail Dag Flachet joins us to discuss the concept of Kaizen and its application in improving application security. Dag shares his journey into the world of security, emphasizing the importance of iterative, small-step improvements. The conversation delves into how organizations can effectively implement maturity models to enhance their security programs, the limitations of compliance-focused frameworks like ISO 27,000 and SOC 2, and the practical application of Kaizen principles. T...
  • Javan Rasokat and Andra Lezza -- When Chatbots Go Rogue - Lessons Learned from Building and Defending LLM Applications 18.03.2025 47min
    Send us Fan Mail Andra Lezza and Javan Rasokat discuss the complexities of securing AI and LLM applications. With years of experience in Application Security (AppSec), Andra and Javan share their journey and lessons from their DEF CON talk on building and defending LLMs. They explore critical vulnerabilities, prompt injection, hallucinations, and the importance of data security. This discussion sheds light on the evolving landscape of AI and LLM security, offering practical advice for develop...

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