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DeFi's Near-Death Moment | Mike Silagadze on Ether.fi, Security, and What Comes Next 08.06.2026 45min

How close did DeFi come to a real systemic collapse?In this episode, Camila Russo sits down with Mike Silagadze, co-founder and CEO of Ether.fi, to break down the Kelp exploit, the DeFi United rescue effort, and why Mike believes the default path could have been far worse if nobody had stepped in. He explains why the bigger lesson is not just smart contract risk, but operational security, app-layer responsibility, and the need to move past "decentralization theater."They also get into why Ether.fi wants to be "the safest place to stake," why application-layer protocols should have emergency controls, and how Ether.fi is evolving from liquid staking into a vertically integrated DeFi bank with vaults, card rails, and real-world utility.If you want to understand where DeFi security is failing, what serious builders are changing, and what the next phase of crypto products could look like, this is the episode to watch.

DeFi Hacks Happening Every Day; Institutions Are Still Coming 01.06.2026 56min

April saw some of the worst DeFi losses in recent memory, and even OpenZeppelin co-founder Manuel Aráoz warned people to get out. But while CT feels gloomy, institutions are not stepping back - they're leaning in with more diligence, stronger infrastructure requirements, and growing demand for onchain yield.In this livestream, Camila Russo is joined by John Zettler of Kraken, Sunand Raghupathi of Veda, and Anthony DeMartino of Sentora to break down what the latest hacks actually revealed: why many recent attacks look more like supply-chain and key-management failures than pure smart-contract exploits, why DeFi's next big challenge is operational security, and why that does not automatically kill the institutional DeFi thesis.They also unpack Kraken's new Bitcoin Vault, the rise of risk-curated vaults, why enterprises still see onchain finance as inevitable, and why fundamentals may be diverging sharply from price action. If you want the clearest view yet on whether DeFi is actually ready for institutions, this is the debate to watch.

Top Talent Is Leaving the EF. What Happens to ETH Now? 25.05.2026 52min

Top Ethereum talent is leaving. The Ethereum Foundation is shrinking. And one question now hangs over the entire ecosystem: what happens to ETH if the EF steps back?In this livestream, Camila Russo is joined by Dankrad Feist, Laura Shin, Ajit Tripathi, and William Mougayar to break down the EF departures, leadership turmoil, the cypherpunk mandate, the debate over tokenomics, and whether Ethereum is still positioned to win as competition intensifies.The big tension in this conversation is clear: the EF may be choosing to do less, but the market is demanding more. So if Ethereum is entering a new phase, who organizes, who builds, and who fights for ETH from here?Explore The Defiant ✨

DeFi Yields Are Too Damn Low! Here's Why 14.05.2026 56min

DeFi is approaching a breaking point.After a wave of hacks and growing concerns around smart contract risk, liquidity risk, and hidden dependencies, the biggest question in crypto is no longer just how much yield you can earn, but whether that yield is actually worth the risk.In this debate, Camila Russo is joined by Santiago Roel Santos of Inversion, Daniele Ugolini of Rysk Finance, and Mauricio Di Bartolomeo of Ledn to break down why DeFi yields may be fundamentally mispriced, what TradFi still does better, where DeFi still wins, and what has to change before institutions can trust it at scale.They get into:🟢 why some of the best-known DeFi protocols may still not compensate users for risk🟢 whether trapped onchain liquidity is distorting the market🟢 why builders need stronger guardrails, better risk management, and more transparency🟢 and whether DeFi is on the verge of becoming mainstream infrastructure, or staying niche until it grows upIf you're allocating capital onchain, building in DeFi, or trying to understand where crypto goes from here, this is the debate to watch.

The $300M DeFi Bailout: Heroic or Unsustainable? 30.04.2026 58min

Explosive debate: after one of DeFi's biggest attacks left Aave facing bad debt, DeFi United raised more than $300M to stop the contagion. But did the ecosystem prove its strength - or expose hidden trust assumptions, opaque risk, and the need for a real DeFi backstop?The Defiant's Camila Russo is joined by Dean Eigenmann (Markets Inc.), binji (Ethereum Foundation), and David Phelps (Confetti) to debate whether crypto bailouts are good for crypto, what this means for decentralization, and what DeFi must fix before it can scale to the mainstream.Watch the full discussion and decide for yourself.Big thanks to our sponsor;NEXONexo is a premier digital assets wealth platform that helps clients build, manage, and preserve their wealth through advanced interest-generating products, crypto-backed credit, advanced trading tools, and 24/7 client care. Get started at https://nexo.com/defiant

Should Arbitrum Have Frozen North Korea's Funds? Griff Green vs. Gabe Shapiro 23.04.2026 56min

The Arbitrum Security Council just made one of the most controversial decisions in DeFi history — freezing $70M in ETH stolen by North Korean hackers from the KelpDAO bridge exploit. But was it the right move? And what does it say about the systems we're building?Griff Green (Giveth Co-Founder and Arbitrum Security Council member) and Gabe Shapiro / Lex_node (crypto lawyer, MetaLex founder, ZK Sync Guardian Council) go head-to-head on the decisions, the precedent it sets, and the hard questions the DeFi ecosystem can no longer avoid.They debate:Was freezing North Korea's funds the right call?Do Stage 1 rollups like Arbitrum have too much centralized power?How does the Arbitrum Security Council compare to PayPal, Bitcoin miners, and Ethereum validators?What would real accountability look like for security councils?What's the path to Stage 2 — and how long will it take?This is one of the most important conversations in DeFi right now. Don't miss it.🔔 Subscribe to The Defiant for more crypto deep dives, breaking news, and live debates.Big thanks to our sponsor;NEXONexo is a premier digital assets wealth platform that helps clients build, manage, and preserve their wealth through advanced interest-generating products, crypto-backed credit, advanced trading tools, and 24/7 client care. Get started at ⁠https://nexo.com/defiant⁠

Quantum Could Break Bitcoin Sooner Than We Thought | Alex Pruden 10.04.2026 35min

Two new research papers just intensified one of crypto’s most serious long-term risks: quantum computing.In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Camila Russo sits down with Alex Pruden, co-founder and CEO of Project 11, to unpack what the latest quantum breakthroughs actually mean for Bitcoin, Ethereum, and the broader crypto ecosystem.Alex explains why the new papers matter, how quantum computers could use Shor’s algorithm to break the cryptography behind blockchain ownership, why exposed public keys are especially vulnerable, and what “Q-Day” could look like if the industry is unprepared. He also breaks down the difference between theoretical progress and live quantum systems, why some chains may be vulnerable in different ways, and what post-quantum migration could realistically involve.The takeaway: this is not just a technical curiosity. It is a foundational challenge for crypto, and one the industry may need to start addressing now.Topics covered:Why the new quantum papers are a big dealHow quantum computers could break Bitcoin and EthereumWhy exposed public keys matterWhat real-time attacks could look likeWhether faster blockchains are saferWhat post-quantum cryptography can and can’t solveWhy Ethereum may be the furthest along in preparingWhat Project 11 is building to help secure crypto before Q-Day

Omer Goldberg: The DeFi Exploit That Exposed a Bigger Problem 30.03.2026 41min

A new DeFi exploit triggered millions in losses, but the deeper story is about risk. In this episode, Omer Goldberg, founder of Chaos Labs, explains how the attack unfolded, why the damage spread across lending markets, what vault curators got wrong, and whether DeFi is truly ready for mainstream adoption. If you want to understand stablecoin risk, oracle design, curator incentives, and the future of safer onchain finance, this is the conversation to watch.Big thanks to our sponsors;NEXONexo is a premier digital assets wealth platform that helps clients build, manage, and preserve their wealth through advanced interest-generating products, crypto-backed credit, advanced trading tools, and 24/7 client care. Get started at nexo.com/defiant MERCURYOYour Web3 product deserves solid payment infrastructure. Global on/off-ramps, custom APIs, and DeFi connectivity trusted by the biggest names in crypto: mercuryo.ioROCKET POOLRocket Pool is Ethereum’s decentralised liquid staking protocol. Node operators can join with just 4 ETH, or liquid stakers can hold rETH and automatically earn staking rewards. rocketpool.net

How the DTCC is Tokenizing $100 Trillions in Assets | Tom Sullivan 20.03.2026 42min

What happens when the institution at the center of U.S. market plumbing starts putting securities onchain?In this episode of The Defiant, Chris Storaker sits down with Tom Sullivan, Managing Director at DTCC Digital Assets, to discuss how DTCC is approaching tokenization, why regulatory clarity changed the game, and what it means for U.S. Treasuries, stocks, ETFs, collateral, and 24/7 markets.Tom explains DTCC’s role as the trusted infrastructure behind much of the U.S. securities market, why blockchain has become a real infrastructure priority, and how tokenized assets could improve collateral mobility, settlement efficiency, and capital efficiency across global markets.They also cover:why SEC clarity was a major unlockwhat exactly DTCC is tokenizinghow tokenized assets will retain full legal and economic rightswhy collateral is one of the biggest near-term use caseshow DTCC sees interoperability, appchains, and a multi-ledger futurewhat success looks like for the Q3 rollout and beyondIf tokenization is moving from experiment to market infrastructure, this conversation shows what that looks like from the inside.

Will Aave’s New Plan Change DeFi Forever? | Stani Kulechov Explains 13.03.2026 52min

New Podcast with Aave founder Stani Kulechov just dropped: Aave is at a turning point - will the Aave Will Win proposal lead to innovation or chaos? Aave is navigating a pivotal moment with the recent "Aave will win" proposal. This initiative aims to redirect 100% of protocol revenue back to the Aave DAO, a move that many in the community have embraced. But with any major change comes scrutiny.Critics are questioning the governance structure, suggesting that Aave Labs may have too much influence. Stani Kulechov addresses these concerns, clarifying that no votes from Aave Labs swayed the outcome. Stani also discussed the 'Hub and Spoke' architecture of Aave V4, explaining how it will solve liquidity bootstrapping for developers and pave the way for Real World Assets (RWAs) like solar farms and GPUs. It’s clear that Aave is focused on growth and innovation. But will it be enough to keep Aave competitive in the evolving DeFi landscape?Big thanks to our sponsors;NEXONexo is a premier digital assets wealth platform that helps clients build, manage, and preserve their wealth through advanced interest-generating products, crypto-backed credit, advanced trading tools, and 24/7 client care. Get started at nexo.com/defiant MERCURYOYour Web3 product deserves solid payment infrastructure. Global on/off-ramps, custom APIs, and DeFi connectivity trusted by the biggest names in crypto: mercuryo.ioROCKET POOLRocket Pool is Ethereum’s decentralised liquid staking protocol. Node operators can join with just 4 ETH, or liquid stakers can hold rETH and automatically earn staking rewards. rocketpool.net

Optimism Is Done With “Ethereum Alignment” — Users Come First 06.03.2026 36min

In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Camila Russo sits down with Jing Wang to discuss how Optimism is evolving and why the debate over what counts as a “real” Ethereum L2 might be missing the point.Jing argues that the most important question isn’t whether a chain is an L1, L2, or sidechain. It’s whether the architecture actually serves users and real-world use cases.“If it looks like an L1, we’ll build that. If it looks like an L2, we’ll build that.”In the conversation we cover:Why Optimism now sees itself as a network of blockchains (the Superchain)The debate around Ethereum L2 decentralization sparked by Vitalik ButerinWhy institutions are already using decentralized railsWhy ZK proofs are the futureAnd why Jing believes finance inevitably moves on-chainNexo is a premier digital assets wealth platform that helps clients build, manage, and preserve their wealth through advanced interest-generating products, crypto-backed credit, advanced trading tools, and 24/7 client care. Get started at https://nexo.com/defiant Your Web3 product deserves solid payment infrastructure. Global on/off-ramps, custom APIs, and DeFi connectivity trusted by the biggest names in crypto: https://mercuryo.io/

Did L2 Fragment Ethereum? - With Yuval Rooz, CEO of Digital Asset, Co-Founder of Canton 27.02.2026 51min

Layer 2 was supposed to scale Ethereum.But what if it fragmented it instead?In this episode, we break down:• Why public chains are “expensive databases”• Why composability is Ethereum’s real value• Why stablecoins don’t need blockchains• Why L2 may be weakening Ethereum’s coreIs scaling helping Ethereum — or hollowing it out?Explore The Defiant ✨

The Bitcoin Renaissance Legacy : Beyond Digital Gold Ep. 2 26.02.2026 20min

Bitcoin Renaissance or JPEG Hype?In 2023, Bitcoin had what many called a renaissance.NFTs on Bitcoin.BRC-20 tokens.Runes.10x transaction spikes.Fee revenue surging to levels not seen since 2017.And then — just as quickly — it cooled.So was the Bitcoin renaissance just a flash in the pan?Or did Ordinals, BRC-20s, and Runes permanently change Bitcoin?In Episode 2 of our Beyond Digital Gold docu-series in partnership with StarkWare, we break down:• What Ordinals actually are and how they work• How BRC-20 tokens turned Bitcoin into a memecoin battlefield• Why Runes were introduced — and what they fixed• The fee spike impact on miners• How maximalism fractured• Why the Overton window for building on Bitcoin shifted permanentlyFeaturing:@isabelfoxenduke@0xBinari@rodarmor@domodata@NathanOnCryptoThe hype faded.But the structural shift didn’t.Watch to understand what really changed — and why the next battle for Bitcoin is infrastructure.⸻Chapters:Cold OpenEthereum vs Bitcoin EraTaproot ExplainedWhat Ordinals Actually DidBRC-20 ExplosionThe Cultural WarRunes & The RefinementWas It Just Hype?⸻#Bitcoin #Ordinals #BRC20 #Runes #BitcoinDeFi #Crypto #Taproot

Why DAO Governance Always Turns Political 20.02.2026 55min

"In a decentralized governance system, it's unavoidable to develop politics."Rune Christensen explains why DAO governance becomes a struggle for resources, how the "iron law of bureaucracy" emerges, and why Sky redesigned its architecture to survive it.From USDS growth to the Atlas rulebook and Genesis Capital — this is Sky's long-term vision for sustainable decentralized finance.

Robinhood’s Crypto Head Johann Kerbrat on Why Public Blockchains Will Win 11.02.2026 41min

Robinhood is opening the testnet for its Arbitrum-based Ethereum Layer 2. In this episode, we sit down with the fintech’s head of crypto, Johann Kerbrat, to discuss the strategic move to build on Ethereum. He believes institutions can get the privacy and compliance guarantees they need on public chains like Ethereum, so building on private chains doesn’t make sense as they are just a “fancy database.” Kerbrat says he sees a future where most financial infrastructure and assets transact on public blockchains. Topics:Robinhood Layer 2 LaunchTokenized Stocks & Real-World AssetsThe "Adapt or Die" moment for BanksSelf-Custody vs. Platform Safety

Rebuilding Global Payments with Stablecoins | Circle & USDC with Nikhil Chandhok 06.02.2026 45min

Stablecoins have quietly become the most successful use case in crypto.In this episode, Nikhil Chandhok, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Circle, explains why USDC is more than a digital dollar — it’s a global financial network.We discuss economic inclusion, internet-scale finance, programmable payments, emerging markets, AI-driven payments, and why stablecoins are becoming the backbone of global money movement.

Crypto’s Point of No Return: Institutions are Finally Here, with Brett Tejpaul 04.02.2026 49min

2025 marked a turning point for crypto.In this episode, Brett Tejpaul, head of Coinbase Institutional, sits down with Camila Russo to explain why institutional adoption accelerated last year. From ETFs and stablecoin regulation to banks using public blockchains in production, crypto crossed a line it can’t uncross.We explore how Coinbase evolved from a retail exchange into a global financial infrastructure layer, why tokenization is finally happening for real, and what regulation unlocked that years of innovation couldn’t.This is about the moment crypto became part of the financial system.

Why OG DeFi Failed | Kain Warwick, Founder of Synthetix 30.01.2026 54min

Kain Warwick—DeFi OG and founder of Synthetix and Infinex—is back on The Defiant Podcast with Camila Russo for a no-BS conversation at a pivotal moment: Infinex just ran its INX token sale and is heading into its TGE.We get into:Why Kain believes DeFi’s biggest bottleneck isn’t “more decentralization,” but UX + distributionThe hard lesson OG DeFi learned: users won’t “learn to love complexity”—the product has to be holistically betterThe INX sale controversy: $2,500 cap → cap removed, one-year lockup stays, and why he says the sale “didn’t need to happen” (but still closed)What he’d do differently: market-driven pricing for locked vs. liquid tokens (and why he thinks the liquidity premium is brutal right now)Kaito / InfoFi: how incentives turned crypto Twitter into slop—and why he thinks it “blew up the public square”What INX actually does: early access, fee discounts, governance—and what demand looks like from power usersInfinex’s product roadmap: Safe support, hardware wallets, integrating “competitors” like Hyperliquid, and the real metric he watches—share of walletThe bigger vision: a one-stop, non-custodial front-end that can serve both whales and newcomers (and why that’s the only way DeFi competes with fintech)Subscribe for more founder interviews and deep dives from The Defiant.

Ethereum is for Institutions: Danny Ryan Says Tokenization Isn't Enough 29.01.2026 26min

In this interview, Camila Russo sits down with Danny Ryan — former Ethereum Foundation researcher and a key leader behind Ethereum’s shift to proof of stake — now Co-Founder & President at Etherealize, to talk about the next big wave for crypto: institutional adoption of Ethereum.Recorded in Buenos Aires during Devconnect, Danny breaks down why the mood inside banks has flipped from “we can’t touch crypto” to “if we don’t adopt it, we’ll be left behind.” We dig into what institutions actually want beyond ETFs, why the biggest opportunity isn’t “tokenizing assets” but rewiring markets from first principles, and why privacy is table stakes for institutional-grade onchain finance.We also cover the regulatory whiplash of the last few years, what’s changed, what still needs to be written into law, and why Danny believes Ethereum is uniquely positioned for serious capital markets infrastructure.Key topics:Why banks suddenly have Ethereum FOMOThe difference between “tokenizing assets” vs rewiring marketsWhere the biggest inefficiencies are (credit, fixed income, esoteric institutional markets)Why privacy + ZK are essential for institutionsCoordination problems, incentives, and who doesn’t want markets to upgradeEthereum’s edge: neutrality, uptime, decentralization, and security👍 If you enjoyed this episode, like, subscribe, and share it with someone who still thinks institutions only care about ETFs.

How Stablecoins Are Rewiring Global Payments | Borderless CPO Alex Garn 09.01.2026 25min

In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Chris Storaker sits down with Alex Garn, Chief Product Officer at Borderless, to unpack how stablecoins are quietly transforming cross-border payments — and what it actually takes to move money at scale across jurisdictions.Alex walks through Borderless’ role as an orchestration layer for global on- and off-ramps, why the company stays out of the flow of funds, and how a single API can replace dozens of fragmented integrations across local regulators, liquidity providers, and banking partners.We explore why stablecoins are moving beyond trading and DeFi collateral into real-world enterprise payments, where they already outperform legacy rails on settlement speed, transparency, and custody — especially across emerging market corridors like Latin America and Southeast Asia.The conversation also digs into the hard parts: liquidity constraints by corridor, KYC and compliance friction, why US–EU payments still favor SWIFT, and whether incumbents like Visa, Mastercard, and SWIFT are more likely to be disrupted or to acquire their way into the future.Finally, Alex shares his outlook on regulatory clarity post-GENIUS, the coming wave of corporate stablecoin adoption, and why distribution — not branding — will determine which stablecoins ultimately win.00:00 — Intro: Alex joins The Defiant Podcast01:30 — From DeFi & data science to stablecoin payments04:10 — What Borderless does: orchestration vs custody07:10 — Why cross-border on/off-ramps are still fragmented10:00 — Stablecoins beyond DeFi: real enterprise payment use cases12:45 — Treasury management, payouts, and B2B adoption15:30 — Liquidity realities: when $10M+ stablecoin payments work18:10 — Why US → Latin America leads stablecoin adoption20:30 — Where stablecoins don’t win (yet): US–EU & SWIFT22:50 — KYC as the biggest bottleneck in crypto payments26:00 — Self-custody, bank risk, and corporate treasuries29:30 — Stablecoins vs SWIFT: speed, cost, and settlement33:00 — Visa, Mastercard, SWIFT, and the M&A race36:40 — Regulation after GENIUS and global spillover effects39:40 — What enterprise adoption looks like in the next 2–3 years42:30 — Stablecoin fragmentation, liquidity, and consolidation45:00 — Closing thoughts: what excites Alex most about the future