Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks
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A podcast by 9Marks, featuring Garrett Kell, Hayley Satrom, and Deepak Reju, discussing topics related to biblical counseling. The show aims to equip Christians with practical wisdom for counseling others and applying Scripture to everyday struggles.
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On How to Use Homework Part 2 (Ep. 48) 27.04.2026 40minDeepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about using Scripture as homework.Resources Mentioned:31-Day Devotionals for Life (Series)Workbooks and resources from Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation
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On How to Use Homework Part 1 (Ep. 47) 13.04.2026 29minDeepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about the importance of homework and how and when to assign it in counseling. Sounds boring but it’s more important than you might realize!Resources MentionedGood and Angry by David Powlison
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On Sexual Sin with Ellen Dykas (Ep. 46) 30.03.2026 41minGarrett, Deepak and Hayley interview Ellen on a woman’s battle with sexual sin.Resources MentionedSexual Sanity for Women by Ellen DykasSex and the Single Girl by Ellen DykasYour Dating Relationship and Your Sexual Past by Ellen DykasWhat’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (single version) – Harvest USAWhat’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (married version) – Harvest USAHarvest USA
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On Helping Singles Fight for Purity (Ep. 45) 16.03.2026 42minGarrett, Hayley and Deepak offer ten thoughts for singles on why and how to fight for purity.Resources Mentioned:Pure in Heart: Sexual Sin and the Promises of God by Garrett KellPornography: Fighting for Purity by Deepack Reju Single and Lonely: Finding the Intimacy You Desire by Jayne ClarkStruggling Through Singleness: Help for the Journey by Jane Clark
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On Medications (Ep. 44) 02.03.2026 42minDeepak, Hayley, and Garrett talk about the good and bad about medications and working with doctors.Resources MentionedDescriptions and Prescriptions by Michael EmletListening to Prozac…and to the Scriptures Article by Michael EmletCan We Be Positive About Psychiatric Medications? Article by Ed WelchWhy do we seem negative about psychiatric medications? Article by Ed Welch
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Ed Welch on Depression (Ep. 43) 16.02.2026 47minDeepak, Hayley and Garrett interview counselor and author Ed Welch about the experience of depression and how to minister to those who suffer from it.
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Depression Part 3 (Ep. 42) 02.02.2026 42minGarrett, Hayley and Deepak share how to care for a friend struggling with depression.Resources MentionedDepression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional)Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch“Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus” – article by Garrett Kell
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Depression Part 2 (Ep. 41) 19.01.2026 39minHayley, Deepak and Garrett talk about depression and how to think about depression as complicated suffering.Resources MentionedDepression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional)Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch“Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus” – article by Garrett Kell
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On Depression Part 1 (Ep. 40) 05.01.2026 42minGarrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about what the Bible says about depression. Warning label: This episode also talks about a depressed person’s battle with suicide.Resources MentionedDepression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed WelchSpurgeon’s Sorrows by Zack Eswine
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On How to Apologize (Ep. 39) 22.12.2025 29minGarrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about how to offer a good or bad apology and why we struggle to apologize.Resources MentionedThe Peacemaker by Ken Sande
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On Anger, with Chris Moles (Ep. 38) 08.12.2025 46minGarrett, Deepak and Hayley interview pastor and counselor Chris Moles, who says you can’t bully a bully. You change a person’s anger with kindness, compassion and forgiveness.Resources MentionedUprooting Anger by Robert D. Joneshttps://www.chrismoles.orghttps://www.menofpeace.org
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On Anger Part 3 (Ep. 37) 24.11.2025 53minGarrett, Hayley and Deepak explore redemptive strategies for dealing with anger problems and growing in faith in Christ.Books MentionedAnger: Calming Your Heart (31-Day Devotional) by Robert D. JonesA Small Book for The Anxious Heart by Edward T. WelchThe Peacemaker by Ken SandeWar of Words by Paul David TrippOther Resources"Moving Toward, Away and Against" Chart (This chart is from the CCEF Marriage Counseling course taught by Winston Smith, 2010)Bible Verses on Anger
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On Anger Part 2 (Ep. 36) 10.11.2025 37minGarrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about how people change when they're wrestling with anger. What should we believe, say, think and do if we want to overcome our anger. Resources mentioned:The Heart of Anger by Steve Midgley and Christopher AshAngry Children: Understanding and Helping Your Children Regain Control by Mike Emlet (Booklet)
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On Anger Part 1 (Ep. 35) 27.10.2025 47minGarrett, Deepak and Hayley introduce the topic of anger and reflect on their own struggles and encounters with it. They explore the complexity of anger—how it can be both righteous and sinful, hot and cold. The discussion sets the foundation for upcoming episodes on addressing and counseling anger in a Christ-centered way.Resources mentioned:Good and Angry by David PowlisonControlling Anger (Mini-book) by David PowlisonUprooting Anger by Robert D. JonesThe Heart of Anger by Christopher Ash & Steve MidgleyAnger: Escaping The Maze (Mini-book from P&R Publishing)
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On How To Become A Better Listener (Ep. 34) 13.10.2025 40minDeepak, Garrett, and Hayley talk about the good and bad qualities of a listener and how to grow in your skill of listening.
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Interview With Abby Wedgeworth (Ep. 33) 11.08.2025 44minHayley, Garrett and Deepak interview Abby Wedgeworth (author of best-selling book HELD) about how to care for women who have suffered from a miscarriage. Resources Mentioned:Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God’s Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage by Abby WedgworthOurs: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage by Eric SchumacherDark Clouds, Deep Mercy: Discovering the Grace of Lament by Mark Vroegop
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On Miscarriage and Infertility Part 2 (Ep. 32) 28.07.2025 41minHayley, Garrett and Deepak offer 5 Do's and 5 Don'ts in coming alongside those who have suffered with infertility or miscarriage.
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On Miscarriage and Infertility Part 1 (Ep. 31) 14.07.2025 37minHayley, Garrett and Deepak consider the painful experiences of infertility and miscarriage, and how the Lord walks with us in our grief.
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On What to Do When You're Stuck (Ep. 30) 30.06.2025 34minWhat do you do when you're feeling stuck in counseling? How do you help someone when it feels like nothing is changing? Hayley, Deepak and Garrett offer eleven suggestions on how to get unstuck!
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On Relational Idolatry, with Ellen Dykas (Ep. 29) 16.06.2025 41minHayley and Deepak talk with Ellen Dykas about the problems of relational idolatry. What can you do when you turn an important relationship into an idol? How can you find satisfaction in Christ rather than a person in your life?31 Day Devotional on Toxic RelationshipSexual Sanity for WomenSex and the Single GirlHarvest USAArticle: Close Friends and Entangled Hearts: Dykas and Powlison.
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