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• I Owe It To The Fallen To Live Well - John Wayne Walding, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 30.06.2026 1godz 49min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Green Beret John Wayne Walding on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Born on the Fourth of July and named after the Western legend, John Wayne Walding lost his right leg in the Battle of Shok Valley, one of the most intense firefights since Vietnam. He tied it off with a tourniquet and kept fighting for hours until every one of his brothers made it off the mountain alive.But the war was only the beginning. John woke up the next morning with one leg and a choice: be a victim or be a victor. He chose to never quit. He ran the Boston Marathon on a hand cycle, became the first amputee to requalify as a Green Beret sniper, got 14 years sober, and surrendered his life to Christ. In this conversation he shares the warrior mindset that carried him off that mountain and now drives his faith, and the conviction he lives by every single day: I owe it to the fallen to live well.This is a raw and powerful conversation about courage, identity, and what it actually costs to be free. Joby, Denny, and John Wayne dig into the true story of the Battle of Shok Valley, the faith of America's founders 250 years after the Revolution, why God never calls anyone to easy, why struggle is good, spiritual warfare and the tactics of the enemy, and the difference between earning grace and walking worthy of it. If you have ever felt like your hardest season was the end of your story, this one is for you.
• Your Sin Isn't Disqualifying You, It's Refining You - Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 23.06.2026 1godz 20min

  This week on Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down alone. Just the two of them answering listener questions.They open on what may be the most common question in the inbox. What do you do after baptism when you find yourself back in the same sin you thought you left behind. Joby walks through the difference between conviction and condemnation, the three tenses of salvation, and why the instinct to clean yourself up before coming back to God is the exact opposite of what God actually wants from you.The conversation moves through some of the heaviest questions you have asked. Discerning God's calling on your life versus your own ambition. Carrying the burden of leading a family when the world feels heavier than it used to. Supporting a husband struggling with his identity. Loving a family member fighting suicidal thoughts. Raising an athlete without putting a weight on them they were never meant to carry. Talking to the friend who says they want to believe but cannot get there. What it actually looks like to tithe when every dollar feels accounted for.
• I Stopped Asking Why - Josh Turner, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 16.06.2026 1godz 39min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Josh Turner on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is a pastor, the founder of the 10:10 Project, and the father of Riley, a 19-year-old with a rare genetic disorder who has had 33 surgeries, sleeps on a ventilator, and just graduated high school.When Riley was born, three doctors walked into the hospital room and told Josh and his wife Becca she would live a year and they would have to decide when to let her go. Riley is now 19, preaches across the country, and one day told her dad to stop praying for her healing because God made her this way on purpose.In this conversation, Josh opens up about walking through suffering publicly, why he stopped asking God why, what NT Wright told him that changed everything, and the morning he lost a friend in ministry that led him to start the 10:10 Project. Joby and Denny dig into burnout, why 42 percent of pastors want to leave the ministry, the danger of success, and what it actually looks like to build rhythms that keep you healthy for the long haul.This is one of the most honest conversations we've had on Built 4 More about suffering, faith, and what God does when you can't figure out why.Learn more about the 10:10 Project: 1010project.com
• The Algorithm Is Not Your Pastor - Ruslan KD, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson 09.06.2026 1godz 27min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Ruslan KD on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Ruslan came to America as an Armenian refugee, found Jesus in Southern California, and built one of the most recognizable voices covering Christian content. He started as a rapper, became a commentator, wrote a book on godly ambition, and now hosts the Bless God conference.This conversation is about what happens when the algorithm starts doing the job the local church was meant to do. Ruslan gets honest about his own turn away from the tear down content that built his platform, why the stuff that goes viral is often the worst thing for your soul, and why nobody actually gets discipled through a screen. From there the three of them dig into godly ambition versus selfish ambition, why contentment is the launchpad and not the finish line, what it looks like to love God with your body and not just your mind, and how wisdom usually shows up as restraint when the whole culture is begging you to react.It is one of the more layered conversations we have had on the show, and it will make you rethink the content you consume and the life you are actually building.
• God Might Call You to Walk Away - Drew Parker, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 02.06.2026 1godz 27min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Drew Parker on this week's episode of Built 4 More.Drew Parker is one of the most successful songwriters in country music. He wrote Homemade for Jake Owen, Stay Country or Die Trying for Blake Shelton, and Doing This for Luke Combs, a song that earned a Grammy nomination for Best Country Song. Four number one songs. Stadium tours. The Grand Ole Opry. A weekend on stage with Willie Nelson. By every measure, he had made it.But Drew had been a believer his whole life, and at the very top of his career he could not shake the feeling that something was missing. He had chased the dream all the way from a small town in Georgia to Nashville, and it still was not enough. So he prayed and asked God to make it clear what he was supposed to do next. Days later his manager called him shaking. A skeptic who had never had a kind word for faith. He said he had been waking up in the middle of the night hearing that Drew was supposed to sing songs about Jesus.Drew walked away from his record deal at the peak of his career. He put out his testimony in a song called Blame Jesus. He is still writing country music, but now he is using the same gift to point people to Christ.In this conversation Drew opens up about the emptiness of chasing success, what it actually costs to follow Jesus, surrendering a dream he spent his whole life building, and how God was chasing him the entire time.
• Your Faith Isn't Failing, It's Forming - Matt Chandler, Joby Martin, Denny Thompson 26.05.2026 1godz 46min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Matt Chandler on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Matt is the lead pastor of The Village Church in Texas and has spent more than two decades as one of the most listened to pastors in the country.Most of us were sold a version of faith that goes straight up and to the right. Follow Jesus, and life gets cleaner, easier, better. Matt's new book Becoming Like Jesus tells the truth instead. The Christian life is a coil of highs and lows, and every low is still moving you forward. The seasons that feel like failure are usually the seasons God is using to form you.In this conversation, Joby, Denny, and Matt get into why you sin less and feel worse the longer you walk with Jesus, why we run from God when we should be running to Him, how lesser loves quietly steal our hunger for the things that matter, and why isolation is one of the enemy's most effective weapons against men. Matt also opens up about his brain cancer diagnosis and what suffering taught him about the goodness of God.If your faith feels stuck, or you have wondered whether a hard season means you are doing something wrong, this one is for you.Subscribe and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode.#Built4More #MattChandler #Faith #Christianity #TheVillageChurch
• You Can't Worship Comfort and Follow Jesus - Tim Timberlake, Joby Martin, Denny Thompson 19.05.2026 1godz 40min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Tim Timberlake on this week’s episode of Built 4 More.Tim Timberlake is a pastor, communicator, and leader at Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida. In this conversation, Tim opens up about the pain that shaped his life, from walking through his father’s cancer diagnosis as a young boy, running from God, getting shot at 16 years old, and eventually having a dream that changed the direction of his life forever.Tim talks about what it means to suffer well, how pain can build humility, character, and godly integrity, and why the fruit God produces through suffering is not just for you, but for the people around you.The conversation also goes deep on leadership, criticism, and what it looks like to keep your hands and heart clean when you are being attacked. Tim shares how he navigated one of the most painful church transitions imaginable, why he refused to clap back, and why he believes you cannot let pain, frustration, or public opinion speak for you.They also talk about the idols of comfort and the fear of man, the character it takes to lead well, the importance of suffering with your eyes fixed on Jesus, and why the decisions you make are ultimately making you.The guys also get into football, the Jacksonville Jaguars, Travis Hunter’s baptism, what culture really means inside a locker room, and how God can use influence, pain, leadership, and obedience for something much bigger than yourself.If you are walking through pain, criticism, leadership pressure, spiritual warfare, or a season you never would have chosen, this episode is for you.
• Your Past Has a Purpose You Can't See Yet - Garrett Gross, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 12.05.2026 1godz 19min

  In this episode of Built 4 More, Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin sit down with Garrett Gross. Garrett is an ex MMA fighter, gym owner, father, and one of the most unlikely men to be doing what he's doing today.For 15 years, Garrett competed as a professional MMA fighter while losing a fight off the mat that had nothing to do with the sport. He tried to fix it, but kept falling. He started to wonder if this was just who he was.Then one morning everything changed. Not because of a program or a plan. Just a parking lot, a quiet moment, and a God who had been working in his life long before Garrett was ready to admit it.Three years later, Garrett is running an MMA gym in small town Illinois that's become an actual mission field. Men are showing up and encountering Christ. A weekly Bible study is forming the kind of community most churches struggle to build, and he's leveraging the way God wired him to reach people the church was never going to reach on its own.Whether you're in the middle of your own fight or trying to figure out what God is doing with the pieces of your past this one will speak directly to where you are.
• Marriage, Ministry, and Motherhood | Pastor Joby & Gretchen Martin and Denny & Angie Thompson 05.05.2026 1godz 58min

  For the first time, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson bring their wives into the studio. Gretchen Martin and Angie Thompson sit down to answer questions submitted by listeners on marriage, motherhood, ministry, and everything in between. Joby and Gretchen have been married 26 years. Denny and Angie have been married 28. Between them they've planted a church, built a quarterback training business, raised four kids, and walked through seasons that nothing about looked like the plan.In this episode, Gretchen gives the behind the scenes of building The Church of Eleven22 from the ground up. And Angie gives the behind the scenes of Denny building one of the premiere quarterback training businesses in the country.The conversation goes deep on what the Bible actually says about submission and respect. Why secrets are exhausting. What it looks like to pray out loud over your spouse. And the "do over" hack that changed the way Joby and Gretchen work through conflict.
• The Man Behind NFL Red Zone - Scott Hanson, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 28.04.2026 1godz 25min

  Scott Hanson has one of the most recognizable jobs in American sports. As the host of NFL Red Zone, he speaks to more people on Sunday than almost anyone on the planet. More Americans will spend time watching NFL football this weekend than they will sitting in a church. Scott knows that better than anyone.But behind the highlight reels and the touchdown calls was a guy who had made his career his god and still could not shake the feeling that something was missing.In this episode, Scott sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson and opens up about hitting the lowest point of his life at 25 years old, when a broken relationship cost him everything he thought he had. His personal life. His professional life. All of it at once.What happened next started with a random trip to Blockbuster Video, a movie about Jesus, and a football coach in Springfield, Illinois who refused to be ashamed of the name of Jesus on a Friday night. Scott had no idea that coach's faithfulness was about to change his life forever.The conversation also goes deep on what God is doing through the NFL right now, why young men are turning back to faith, and what it actually looks like to be salt and light when 10 million people are watching.
• What the Fittest Man on Earth Is Building Now - Rich Froning, Pastor Joby Martin, Denny Thompson 21.04.2026 1godz 15min

  Rich Froning is the most decorated athlete in CrossFit history. 4 individual titles. Multiple team championships. A legacy that the sport has never seen before and may never see again. But behind all of it was a guy who kept winning and kept wondering why it wasn't enough.In this episode, Rich sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson and opens up about what it actually felt like to be the best in the world. The obsession it took to get there. The emptiness that followed every gold medal. And the moment faith stopped being something he grew up around and became something he actually lived.Rich also shares the story of how he and his wife walked through years of unexplained infertility, how God used a pregnancy clinic in Cookville, Tennessee to bring them their first daughter, and how that one moment changed the entire direction of his life. All three of his kids are adopted. None of it was the plan. All of it was God.The conversation also goes deep on what Rich is building now. A men's discipleship group out of his barn on Saturday mornings. A faith driven gym culture that doesn't apologize for the name of Jesus. And what it looks like to trade competing for yourself for something that actually lasts.
• Finding God After Escaping Iran - David Nasser, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 14.04.2026 1godz 52min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with David Nasser on this week's episode of Built 4 More.David Nasser was born in Iran and lived through the 1979 Islamic Revolution as a child. His family escaped with nothing, eventually landing in small town Alabama as refugees during one of the most anti-Iranian moments in American history. He was bullied, outcasted, and had no plan, until a friend invited him to church from the passenger seat of a car at midnight.What happened next is one of the most remarkable stories of God's sovereignty you will ever hear.David opens up about what it actually looks like to grow up as the enemy in your own country and then become the enemy in your new one and how God was holding him through all of it without him knowing.The conversation also goes deep on what God is doing in Iran right now. The underground church there is the fastest growing church in the world, and David breaks down what that actually means, what it costs the people living it, and why this moment in history may be the greatest open door for the gospel the Middle East has ever seen.
• I Nailed Jesus to the Cross - Tim Tebow, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 07.04.2026 1godz 32min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Tim Tebow on this week's episode of Built 4 More.Tim Tebow is one of the most decorated college football players in history. Heisman Trophy winner, two national championships, first round NFL draft pick, and he has been one of the most publicly outspoken Christians in the history of American sports. Tim opens up about what it actually looks like to keep Christ on the throne when bitterness creeps in and your plans do not go the way you expected.The conversation also goes deep on the fight Tim has given his life to outside of football. Right now more than 50 million people are being trafficked globally and more than 400 million children will be exploited or sexually abused this year alone. Tim breaks down what the Renewed Hope Act is, why Congress needs to move faster, and what every single person listening can do right now to help. He also gets into how to protect your own children from threats most parents do not even know exist.Tim also walks through his new book If The Tree Could Speak, how it came to him in the middle of the night, and why the perspective of the cross itself might be the most powerful entry point into the gospel you have never considered.If The Tree Could Speak: https://timtebow.com/tree/
• Why You Feel Stuck In Your Faith - Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 31.03.2026 1godz 14min

  In this episode of Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down for a powerful and unfiltered Q and A covering some of the most real questions people wrestle with in their faith and everyday life. From wondering if you are truly hearing God’s voice to feeling the pressure of parenting and questioning if you are getting it right, this conversation goes straight at the things many people think but do not always say out loud. Joby and Denny unpack what the Bible actually says about hearing from God, why it can feel confusing at times, and how faith is often less about waiting for a perfect answer and more about trusting God with your next step.They also dive into the weight many parents carry to raise their kids the right way and why your mistakes do not disqualify you. In fact, some of the most powerful lessons your kids will learn come from watching you own your failures, repent, and keep going. This episode also challenges the idea that you need to have everything figured out before you move forward and reminds you that God has already given you more direction than you think. When you feel stuck, unsure, or disconnected, the answer is not always more clarity but more obedience with what is right in front of you.If you have ever felt like God is silent, struggled to make a decision, or questioned whether you are doing enough in your faith, this episode will meet you right where you are. It is honest, practical, and rooted in truth, reminding you that you were made for more and that following Jesus does not require perfection, just surrender and a willingness to take the next step.
• Your Mindset Is Shaping Your Life - Jon Gordon, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 24.03.2026 1godz 25min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with 7x New York Times bestselling author Jon Gordon on this week's episode of Built 4 More.Jon Gordon didn't set out to become a bestselling author. He set out to survive. After losing his job, taking a second mortgage on his home, and maxing out $20,000 in credit cards to open a Moe's Southwest Grill in Jacksonville, Florida, he was crumbling from the inside out.What followed was one of the most unlikely faith journeys you'll ever hear. A new ager and Buddhist meditator who cried out to God in desperation, saw a literal roadside sign that said "Jesus is the Answer," and had a Buddhist energy healer accidentally explain the gospel to him in a way that finally made everything click.Jon opens up about the season where he was failing as a husband and father and what happened when he finally surrendered that to Jesus. He talks about the walk of gratitude that started his transformation, how his faith completely rebuilt his marriage, his family, and his calling, and why he considers God the author of every book he has ever written.The conversation goes deep on leadership and culture too. Jon shares what happened when he spent six hours with Jaguars head coach Liam Coen building the culture that fueled Jacksonville's turnaround this season, why the best leaders in the world never stop taking notes, and the one mindset shift that separates leaders who perform under pressure from those who don't.
• Finding Your Identity Beyond Football — Devin Lloyd, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 17.03.2026 1godz 12min

  In this episode of Built 4 More, Devin Lloyd sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson for a powerful conversation about faith, identity, and purpose just hours after signing with the Carolina Panthers in NFL free agency. Devin shares what it was like navigating the emotional roller coaster of free agency, leaving the Jacksonville Jaguars after four seasons, and stepping into a new chapter of his career in the NFL. They discuss the pressure that comes with professional sports, the highs and lows of competing at the highest level, and how Devin learned to anchor his identity in Christ rather than in football or performance.The conversation dives into Devin’s journey from college football at University of Utah to becoming a first round NFL draft pick and one of the top linebackers in the league. Devin explains the mindset required to play linebacker in the NFL, the discipline and preparation that separate great players from good ones, and how film study, nutrition, consistency, and daily habits shape success on and off the field. He also shares the story of how injuries and adversity early in his career pushed him to deepen his relationship with Jesus and ultimately changed the way he views competition, leadership, and life.Throughout the episode, the conversation turns to what it truly means to live with purpose, how faith brings clarity and freedom from the opinions of others, and why understanding God’s approval allows you to play and live with confidence. Devin talks about gratitude, humility, leadership in the locker room, and the importance of surrounding yourself with people who help you grow spiritually and personally. If you are searching for purpose, dealing with pressure, or trying to understand how faith and success intersect, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to see your life through a bigger perspective.
• What To Do When God Feels Silent - Pastor Joby Martin, Denny Thompson & Joshua Broome 10.03.2026 1godz 16min

  Pastor Joby Martin, Denny Thompson, and Joshua Broome dive into a wide range of questions about faith, purpose, identity, and what it means to follow Jesus in real life.This conversation explores some of the deeper questions many people wrestle with in their spiritual journey. Topics include trusting God when the future feels unclear, navigating seasons where God feels silent, and learning how to make wise decisions when you do not feel certain about the next step. The episode also looks at the role of faith in everyday life and how believers can continue growing spiritually through different seasons.The discussion also touches on discipleship, relationships, leadership, and the importance of surrounding yourself with people who help strengthen your walk with Christ. It explores how identity in Jesus shapes the way we live, the way we make decisions, and the way we pursue purpose.Throughout the episode, the conversation centers on practical Christian living and how faith influences areas like calling, personal growth, sharing your faith with others, and developing a deeper relationship with God.
• Your Sin Doesn’t Define You - Joshua Broome, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 03.03.2026 1godz 28min

  Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Joshua Broome for a conversation about forgiveness identity and what it actually means to be free from your past. Joshua shares how growing up without a relationship with his father led him on a lifelong pursuit of affirmation acceptance and approval. That pursuit slowly shaped the decisions he made and the direction his life took as he chased performance success and validation in an effort to feel like he was enough. Over time what began as a search for identity turned into a life defined by shame as the things he had done became the lens through which he saw himself.Together they talk about how shame convinces us that what we have done is who we are and how that belief keeps us stuck in cycles of striving condemnation and isolation. This episode explores why so many people struggle to believe they are actually forgiven even after hearing the gospel and how condemnation can continue to shape our identity long after our sin has been paid for. Pastor Joby and Denny unpack the difference between behavior modification and heart transformation and explain why real freedom begins when we stop trying to earn approval and start living from the identity we have already been given in Christ.Joshua shares how the renewing of his mind through Scripture discipleship and community allowed him to understand that forgiveness is not just about avoiding punishment but about being made new. They discuss why confession leads to healing how loneliness fuels addiction and why the finished work of Jesus means our past is not something we have to manage hide or overcome on our own. This conversation is about redemption grace and the truth that in Christ your past is no longer held against you. Because of the cross forgiveness is not a future promise but a present reality and your identity is no longer defined by what you have done but by what Jesus has done for you.
• Your Calling Is Closer Than You Think – Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 24.02.2026 1godz 30min

  In this episode of the Built 4 More Podcast, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson answer one of the most common questions we receive: How do you know if you are living in God’s calling? And what if your job does not feel “spiritual” at all?From welders to pastors, quarterback trainers, and business owners, this conversation dives into the truth that your calling is not reserved for a stage. It is lived out in the everyday work God has entrusted to you. Pastor Joby explains why chasing “passion” can actually be misleading, how the skills God has given you are meant to be stewarded for His glory, and why doing excellent work in any field can be sacred when it is done unto the Lord. Whether you are struggling with identity in your job, feeling discontent in your current season, or wondering if there is something more you are meant to do, this episode offers clarity on the difference between Godly ambition and selfish ambition and how to move forward in obedience without abandoning responsibility.They also unpack how seasons of preparation are never wasted, why God often uses the ordinary to prepare us for the extraordinary, and how your desires may begin to change as your mind is renewed through Scripture and community. You will hear how launching this podcast has challenged Denny’s own faith and forced him to move from being someone who simply listens to the Word to someone who lives it out daily.Plus, the conversation shifts into marriage and what it really means to honor the covenant you made with God and your spouse, how forgiveness and grace are essential to lasting relationships, and why love is less about feelings and more about commitment, sacrifice, and daily work. From learning to lead your family while still pursuing what God has put on your heart, to navigating big life decisions in unity, this episode provides practical wisdom for men who want to live faithfully at work and at home.If you have ever felt confused about purpose, stuck between provision and passion, or afraid that you might miss what God is calling you to next, this conversation is for you.Your calling might be closer than you think.
• Faith That Fights On - Jake Olson, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson 17.02.2026 1godz 28min

  At 12 years old, Jake Olson woke up from surgery knowing he would never see again. After battling cancer for most of his childhood, doctors had run out of options. Removing his remaining eye was the only way to save his life. In an instant, everything changed. He went from being a normal middle school kid who loved sports to learning how to read Braille, relearn how to socialize, and figure out how to live in a world he could no longer see. But what happened next is what makes his story unforgettable. Jake made a decision in that moment that most people never make he refused to become a victim of his circumstances. Instead of letting blindness take the life he loved from him, he chose to fight for it.After losing his sight, Jake made a promise to himself that blindness wasn’t going to rob him of the things he loved. Years later, that promise would lead him back onto the football field, first as a high school player, and eventually as a walk-on long snapper at USC. Despite being completely blind, Jake earned the trust of his coaches and teammates and went on to take the snap in a Division 1 college football game, something he once believed would only be possible if he kept his eyesight. What once looked like the end of his story became the beginning of a purpose far greater than he could have imagined.This conversation is about adversity, identity, and the reality that every person faces a moment where they have to choose whether they will live resentful… or fight on. Jake shares how gratitude became his first step out of victimhood, how hardship can either make you bitter or build your faith, and why circumstances don’t have the power to define the life you’re capable of living. If you’ve ever felt stuck, discouraged, or defined by something that happened to you, this episode will challenge the way you think about what’s actually possible with the life you’ve been given and remind you that even when life doesn’t go according to plan, your story is far from over.