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  Lucas Cantor: "I Don't Think Anybody Knows What AI Is" 31.07.2026 58min

  Lucas Cantor has an unusual claim on the AI conversation. In 2019, Huawei asked him to finish Schubert's Unfinished Symphony using artificial intelligence, and he did it. He's an Emmy-winning composer who has worked on every Olympics since 2002, produced a cover of Everybody Wants to Rule the World with Lorde, and now invests in music technology. His new book is Unfinished: The Role of the Artist in the Age of Artificial Intelligence.In this episode Georgie Healy gets Lucas to take apart the story we're all being told about AI. Why he thinks nobody actually knows what the term even means. Why every single person he asks assumes AI can do the job they're not an expert in, and can't do the job they are. Why the claim that AI democratizes creativity is a fallacy sold by AI companies, and what it actually democratizes instead. Why B2B SaaS isn't dead, and who benefits from you believing it is. And why the music industry, supposedly murdered by Napster, is bigger now than it was before.If you build, market, or operate anything, this is a useful hour of pressure testing. Lucas isn't a doomer and he isn't an evangelist. He's someone who has been inside the technology long enough to tell the difference between what it does and what it's sold as.Recorded ahead of his first trip to Australia for BIGSOUND - which is September 1st - 4th in Brisbane!Chapters:00:00 Cold open00:54 Welcome, and who Lucas Cantor is02:49 The AI hack: stem separation04:14 Taylor Swift's wedding04:55 BIGSOUND, and the fear around AI in music06:23 Why the purist argument falls apart07:25 Tuning has drifted since the Renaissance10:02 Composer, producer, author, investor11:16 What Suno is, and the ethics problem12:20 Why all music sounds better now15:33 What it actually means to have your music stolen16:56 Covering Everybody Wants to Rule the World with Lorde19:19 Source Connect, Audio Movers, and remote studios20:22 The fallacy that AI democratizes creativity22:38 Black Swan, conductors, and the war on expertise24:26 The doctor who said AI could write a pop song27:38 Why he called himself a Luddite30:18 Hans Zimmer's studio, and saying yes to Huawei32:34 Finishing Schubert's Unfinished Symphony37:00 "I don't think anybody knows what AI is"38:49 Every AI agent ad shows something nobody needs42:14 Hot take: is B2B SaaS dead?45:13 AI is a story, and that's the problem46:25 What actually wins in music tech49:28 Amusing, but not amazing50:20 Ben Affleck, Scorsese, and AI in the creative process53:30 Two Emmys and a coach of the year award55:36 The one takeaway from Unfinished57:33 Georgie's Substack, Attention Is All I Need
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  Why AI Can't Replace Marketing Strategy - with LinkedIn's Robin O'Connell 24.07.2026 52min

  Robin O'Connell spends his days inside LinkedIn's marketing and advertising team in Australia, working with founders and brands on content strategy - which makes him a rare voice on where AI genuinely helps marketers, and where it still falls flat. In this episode, Robin makes the case that the smartest move for any marketer right now is trying to replace parts of your own job with AI, just to find out fast what it can't do. His answer: strategy. AI can automate tactics at scale, but it still can't replace the judgement that comes from genuinely understanding a customer.Georgie and Robin get into how brands actually stand out on LinkedIn (hint: it's not by looking like Apple), why comments and DMs are a better growth signal than impressions, and how to tell when AI-written content is quietly killing your credibility.The standout story, though, is personal: Robin's dad Dennis, a serial entrepreneur in Dublin who lost his retail business during COVID, now runs a landscaping venture - and uses AI image generation on an iPad to show clients exactly what their garden will look like before a single spade hits the ground. It's one of the clearest, most human examples of AI actually changing how someone runs a small business.Find Robin on LinkedIn for more on marketing, AI, and content strategy.
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  "The SaaS Apocalypse Is A Myth" with Freddie McKenzie, Co-Founder & CEO of Manifest 17.07.2026 57min

  Freddie McKenzie is the co-founder and CEO of Manifest, an AI platform that helps creative and marketing agencies capture the real value of their work without timesheets. Before Manifest, he built and exited VIVID Creative, an Auckland-based production agency behind campaigns for Jetstar and other major brands, and in this conversation with Georgie Healy he traces that journey and where he thinks AI agents, and the AI hype cycle, are actually heading.Freddie shares his AI hack of stacking meeting transcripts to actually see progress over time, and explains why he refuses to automate the one interface he thinks matters most: his inbox. He unpacks why Manifest's CTO built a proprietary AI model instead of wrapping an off-the-shelf one, the real story behind Manifest's $2 million pre-seed raise in a tough funding market, and his take on why most companies experimenting with AI agents still can't get past their first prompt. He also makes the case that the so-called SaaS apocalypse is a myth, and shares his simple rule for founders chasing product-market fit: find the ugly problem, not the sexy one.Mentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  Mira Murati, the Quiet Superpower in the AI Race 10.07.2026 29min

  Welcome to the first ever episode of AI Icons, a new thing I'm launching on the show. Here's the idea: the people reshaping tech have stories more entertaining than anything Hollywood is putting out, so in under 30 minutes I'm going to tell you the whole story, the good, the bad, and the ugly, but only the facts. No spin. And at the end, I'll give you my two cents on what actually made them an icon, and whether it's something you and I could ever replicate.First up is Mira Murati, and I'll admit it, I'm a fan. I take you all the way back to her childhood in isolated post-communist Albania, where maths was the one subject the party couldn't rewrite, through a scholarship in Canada, degrees in maths and mechanical engineering, and a Goldman Sachs floor in Tokyo at 21. Then it's Tesla and those ridiculous Falcon Wing doors, a risky bet on a startup called Leap Motion, and the move that made her famous: OpenAI, where she rose to CTO and helped bring DALL-E and ChatGPT into your life.And then there's the part that genuinely reads like a thriller. The 72 hours in November 2023 when Sam Altman was fired, Mira was named CEO, and a 52-page memo and a string of 2:30am texts sat right at the center of it. I walk you through what we know, what we still don't, and what came out under oath. I finish on her next act, Thinking Machines Lab, the record-breaking raise, the talent exodus, and why, out of my four Gs, I think one of them explains her better than the rest. Come find out which one.In the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter
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  How AI Models Are Really Judged, with Peter Gostev (Arena / LMArena) 03.07.2026 58min

  Peter Gostev is head of AI capabilities at Arena (LMArena), the community-based platform where millions of real people vote in blind tests to rank AI models, born out of research at UC Berkeley. Before Arena, Peter was Head of AI at Moonpig and built a large following sharing hands-on explorations of what the latest models can actually do. He joins Georgie Healy from London for a genuinely nerdy, insider look at how models are judged and where the frontier is heading.In this episode, Peter explains the difference between static benchmarks and human judgment, and why a model can pass every test you write and still produce something that looks completely awful. He breaks down the current state of the leaderboards, why Anthropic's models are dominating and how that tracks with real world adoption, and gives a sharp comparison of the top Western models, including why Anthropic's non-reasoning models are exceptional while OpenAI's strength lies in deep reasoning. Georgie and Peter get into why people aren't using Chinese models more despite their quality, the economics behind AI pricing and how enterprise usage is priced very differently from consumer subscriptions, why release cadence matters as much as capability, and what the wave of data centre investment means for the models arriving next. Along the way there's a fond detour on Opus 3 as the model you could talk to for hours, and why better models can sometimes feel worse.Tune in for a clear-eyed, hype-free guide to how AI models are really evaluated, straight from someone who watches the charts move in real time.Mentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  Inside ElevenLabs: Voice AI, Cloning Ethics, and the End of the Call Centre? 26.06.2026 1godz 3min

  Damian Naughton is the General Manager of ANZ at ElevenLabs, the voice AI company now past US$500 million in ARR, just four years after its 2022 founding. Formerly a regional VP at Slack and an early team member at Sydney's Hyper Anna (acquired by Alteryx), Damian is leading ElevenLabs' new Sydney office and tripling the local team as enterprise demand for voice AI accelerates.In this episode, Damian and Georgie Healy cover why ElevenLabs is planting a flag in ANZ now and the local customers already on board, including Xero, Employment Hero, Heidi Health, Australia Post, and Andromeda Robotics' aged care companion robot Abby. Damian unpacks the company's high performance culture and the "11x yourself" philosophy, why intrinsic motivation beats top down pressure, and how he co-designs stretch goals with new hires. They get into voice cloning and the ethics behind it, how little audio you actually need to clone a voice, and how ElevenLabs handles consent, safety, and scammers, including a clever "reverse" use case that keeps fraudsters on the line to gather intel for banks. Damian also shares his view that enterprise AI needs to be led by the business rather than tech, why the BPO and consulting worlds are facing real disruption, and his take that tall poppy syndrome is a scourge holding Australian tech back.Tune in for a candid conversation on voice AI, building a high performing team, and how enterprises should prepare for a near future where your own AI assistant takes action on your behalf.Time Stamps00:00 – Intro: Your AI Assistant Will Soon Take Action For You02:17 – AI Hack of the Week: A Michael Caine Voice Butler On The Fridge04:57 – ElevenLabs Launches in Australia and New Zealand07:14 – Why Voice AI Is Ready Now (Xero, Employment Hero, Heidi, Andromeda)10:52 – From Journalist to Voice AI: How AI Is Changing the News13:40 – Inside Hyper Anna, the Aussie Startup Acquired by Alteryx15:31 – ElevenLabs' High Performance Culture and the "11x Yourself" Rule25:38 – The ElevenLabs Founding Story: Two Polish Founders and Bad Dubbing28:42 – How Will Australia React to Voice AI?31:24 – Voice Cloning Ethics, Consent, and Celebrity Voices34:12 – How Little Audio You Need to Clone a Voice37:17 – Voice AI and Scammers: How ElevenLabs Fights Fraud42:05 – Can AI Bring Back Music From Artists Who Have Passed?45:11 – Can Enterprise Companies Actually Adapt to AI?53:05 – Advice for Heads of AI: Let Business Lead, Not Tech56:39 – Rapid Fire: Tall Poppy Syndrome, Hiring, and Spicy Takes1:02:05 – Where to Follow Damian and ElevenLabsIn the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  "AI Should Bring Us Closer Together, Not Make Us More Lonely" with Akshay Kothari Co-Founder of Notion 19.06.2026 48min

  Akshay Kothari is the COO and co-founder of Notion, the workspace platform now used by over a hundred million people. Before Notion, he co-founded Pulse, the newsreader app built as a Stanford class project that Steve Jobs name-checked on stage at WWDC 2010 before LinkedIn acquired it. He joined Notion in 2018 when the team was fewer than ten people, and in this conversation with Georgie Healy he traces that journey and where knowledge work is heading as agents take centre stage.Akshay shares his AI hack of the week, turning a screenshot of restaurant recommendations into a shareable Notion database, and explains how the unit of work has shifted from taking notes to simply having a chat. He unpacks the design obsession behind Notion's identity, the block architecture that lets anyone build their own tools, and the new Developer Platform that brings outside agents like Claude and Codex onto Notion's context graph. He paints a picture of a "factory of agents" working round the clock while humans move to reviewing and applying taste, makes the case for model optionality and cost control, and shares his rule for custom agents: macro delegate, then micro steer.In the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  Building AI at Scale: Inside Australia's Largest Bank with Blair Hudson 05.06.2026 59min

  This is a #paidpartnership with Commonwealth BankEpisode SummaryBlair is the Chief Engineer of Generative AI at Commonwealth Bank, overseeing nine to ten teams building the AI platform that powers Australia’s largest bank and its millions of customers. Including me, a Dollar Mite since primary school.His origin story is not what you would expect. He was a self-described hacker who grew up clicking through every system configuration setting he could find on his mum’s school computers after hours. That curiosity took him from building on GPT-2 before ChatGPT even existed, to the heart of one of Australia’s most important institutions.In this episode we get into:The litmus test he uses to spot bad AI use immediatelyWhy context matters more than promptingWhat an AI platform actually is and why your company probably needs oneWhy software engineers need to take more accountability for what they buildThe single security mistake most people are still makingWhy it is absolutely not too late to figure AI out for yourselfPractical, candid, and full of things you can action today.Time Stamps00:00 Intro03:05 What Does a Chief Engineer of AI at a Bank Actually Do06:02 How CBA Collaborates Across Hundreds of Engineering Teams08:56 How to Keep Up With AI Tools Without Getting Overwhelmed12:04 Why Tool Consistency Matters in Enterprise AI14:56 Why Blair Shares His AI Insights Publicly17:51 What Being a Hacker Really Means in Tech20:50 How Blair Hudson Went From Startup AI to Commonwealth Bank23:59 Why CBA Starts Every Sprint With a Real Customer Call27:06 Why Over-Engineering Is Killing Your AI Projects29:47 Where AI Is Actually Moving the Needle in Banking Right Now32:15 Why the Year of the Agent Was Overhyped34:41 How to Build AI Fast Without Cutting Corners on Safety39:28 What Is an AI Platform and Why Does Your Company Need One41:49 How CBA Handles Shadow AI and Tool Adoption at Scale45:09 Why Context Is More Important Than Prompting50:29 The Number One Security Mistake You Are Still Making52:30 The Easiest Way to Start Using AI to Save Time Today54:05 Why You Should Never Ship AI Output Without Reviewing It55:38 Why It Is Not Too Late to Learn AIIn the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  You Can. But Should You? | AI and Ethics with Dr Simon Longstaff 29.05.2026 59min

  "Can does not imply should."That one line from Dr Simon Longstaff cuts to the heart of everything wrong with how the tech industry is currently building AI. The Executive Director of The Ethics Centre and one of Australia's most respected moral philosophers joins Georgie for a conversation that is equal parts grounding and mind-expanding, and one of the most important episodes the show has produced.Simon's path to becoming Australia's foremost ethics expert is not what you would expect. He left school at 16, cleaned toilets on a remote island in the Gulf of Carpentaria, drove ambulances, became a paramedic and fire officer, and was eventually adopted by one of the clans of the Anindilyakwa people. It was at the end of a ship loading wharf that an indigenous elder taught him something about seeing patterns in the world, a lesson he has carried through 35 years of philosophical work and only recently realised had shaped everything.In this episode he unpacks why ethics is not an optional extra bolted onto technology but the foundation it has to be built on, why the pharmaceutical approval model could be the blueprint for governing AI, and why "necessary fictions" mean that CEOs deploying AI are responsible for outcomes they literally cannot understand. He also makes the case that the coming wave of job displacement does not have to be a catastrophe, and explains what ancient Athens and pre-colonial Indigenous life have to do with universal basic income.In the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  Learn how to use AI at its exponential with Anthropic's Head of Platform Engineering 22.05.2026 51min

  Episode SummaryWhen Katelyn Lesse was leading engineering at Stripe, she noticed everything around her shifting because of AI. So she left, and joined Anthropic. Today she leads platform engineering at one of the most important AI companies in the world, which is why we were so thrilled to host her for Anthropic's first ever interview in Sydney.Katelyn does not lead with technical jargon. She leads with a question every builder needs to sit with right now. Are you building on the exponential, or are you stuck on the linear? Most people, she says, are already further behind than they realise.In this episode she shares the exact framework she uses to think about building in the AI era, why your frustrations with Claude are actually signals you are onto something, and what it really means to be AGI pilled inside Anthropic.Time Stamps00:00 Intro02:53 AI Hack: Using Claude to Pick Wine03:42 Katelyn's Background and Path to Anthropic05:32 Why She Left Stripe to Join Anthropic11:22 What Building on the Exponential Means11:48 Why Australia Is a Top AI Market13:05 Is the Claude Obsession Healthy?15:20 The Framework for Building AI Products16:38 Why Evals Are Non-Negotiable18:18 Inside Anthropic's Developer Platform20:11 What Is Harness Engineering?25:13 AI Security, Sandboxes and Human in the Loop29:09 Cloud Managed Agents Explained31:56 Open Source MCP vs Closed Claude33:48 How AI Is Changing Engineering Teams36:24 How to Choose the Right AI Coding Tool39:12 The End of the Traditional Tech Team44:30 The AI Magic Moment Everyone Remembers45:30 What It Means to Be AGI Pilled47:21 Rapid Fire With Anthropic49:56 Advice for Developers Building With AIIn the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  How to Build a Side Project That Goes Global Before You Graduate with Anna and Viv from Toastie 08.05.2026 40min

  Episode SummaryAnna Zhou and Vivian Shen, the co-founders of Toastie, join Georgie Healy for one of the warmest and most personal conversations the show has had. Two software engineers at Google by day, they have quietly built one of the most thoughtful health tracking apps in the world by night, all without spending a single dollar on marketing.Toastie was born from a problem they were both living. Anna was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease and handed a few photocopied sheets to figure out the rest of her life from. Viv has been managing PCOS for years, experimenting with medications and diets on her own. They realised the tools available simply were not built for people like them, so they built one themselves. Today Toastie helps users track symptoms, food, body signals, lab reports and scans, surfacing the patterns and irregularities that would otherwise go unnoticed.In this episode they unpack why almost one in two Australians live with a chronic illness but no one talks about it, why slapping AI on everything is the wrong instinct and how they decide which features actually need it, and the cold LinkedIn email that landed them their first global partnership before they even had a product. They also share why ChatGPT and Gemini are not enough when the stakes are this high, what their users actually write to them in the feedback form, and the story of the user who quietly security audited their app and was so impressed they wrote in to tell them.Plus the early hackathon they won by faking the backend in real time, why they call themselves boomers when it comes to social media, the worst startup advice they have ever received, and a special offer just for In The Blink of AI listeners.🎁 Use promo code ITBOA2026 to get a 90 day free trial of Toastie🍞 Find your Toastie personality: https://toastie.au/quizTime Stamps00:00 Intro02:20 AI Hacks and Life at Google Sydney07:00 How They Met and Their Hackathon Wins10:51 What is Toastie and Why It Matters13:50 The Personal Stories Behind the Product16:23 How They Use AI (And Where They Don't)17:37 The Cold Email That Landed a Global Partnership20:00 Why General AI Models Aren't Enough23:25 Building, Prioritising and the Competition25:13 Why They Refuse to Call Themselves an AI Company27:57 Trust, Security and User Feedback30:00 Going Viral With Zero Marketing Spend33:33 Handling AI Hate Online35:43 Rapid Fire and What's Next38:45 Special Offer for ListenersIn the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  The New Rules of Design (with Andrew Hogan | Head of Insight at Figma) 01.05.2026 45min

  "Code is getting cheaper. Which means taste is getting more expensive."That one idea from Andrew Hogan reframes everything people think they know about competing in AI right now. Andrew, Head of Insights at Figma, joins Georgie to make the case that features are no longer a moat, and that the companies quietly investing in how their product feels are the ones building something that's actually hard to copy.In this episode they get into why 56% of non-designers are already doing design work, why the job title "designer" isn't going anywhere, and why anyone who's still treating design as a finish-line coat of paint is going to get lapped. They also unpack what agent management platforms actually need to get right, why design matters even more when kids are the users, and what GeoCities taught us about creative ownership that most product teams have completely forgotten.Plus: the prompting-together technique that turns prototyping into a team sport, why "no tech at all" is unnecessarily painful for parents, Andrew's verdict on Australian coffee, and why the golden era of the side project might be the most important shift nobody's naming loudly enough.✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  How Springboards Built an AI Model That Actually Thinks Differently 24.04.2026 48min

  Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/survey"Shit at the speed of light is still shit."That one line from Pip captures the entire philosophy behind Springboards, the AI company he co-founded with Amy and Kieran that is quietly pushing back against what the rest of the industry is doing. The three of them join Georgie Healy for one of the most thought-provoking conversations the show has had about what AI is quietly doing to creativity, and what it takes to build a model that breaks the mould.Pip and Amy never planned to start an AI company. Both worked in advertising and got laid off within three weeks of each other, which led them to accidentally build the first version of Springboards themselves to solve a problem they kept running into: existing AI tools were not helping them do creative work better, they were making everyone's creative work look the same. Kieran joined as their technical co-founder and together they have now released Flint, a divergence model designed to break the AI hive mind.In this episode they unpack why 69 out of 70 language models will tell you that time is a river, why mainstream AI has converged into one gray mush of sameness, and why the scariest part of this might be that most people will not even notice. They also get into how they built Flint to score 7.5 on novelty bench when the frontier models score ones and twos, why the smallest possible model was always the goal, and why they deliberately avoid making the tool feel too polished.Plus why humans are evolutionarily lazy and what that means for our brains in the AI era, the unexpected analogy about sourdough and alcohol that changes how you think about creativity, and the honest reflection from all three founders on being the self-loathing AI company in a space full of hype.00:00 — Intro02:22 — Introducing Flint and the convergence problem in AI models04:50 — Why Springboards is uniquely positioned to solve creative AI07:30 — What entropy actually means in language models09:44 — Real examples: random cars, pizza toppings, and where to holiday12:36 — Why this matters for the advertising industry (and everyone else)15:29 — Inside Flint: how to fine-tune a model for divergence18:38 — Doubling the score on Novelty Bench (and what that even means)23:35 — Try Flint yourself: who it's for and how to access it26:10 — Cognitive atrophy, taste, and keeping humans in the creative loop35:04 — Choosing a tech provider as an early-stage AI startup38:20 — What actually matters for founders in the sasspocalypse era41:12 — Rapid fire: copyright, cover shoots, Eumundi markets, and self-loathing AI✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletter
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  How to Stop Your AI Agents From Breaking with Josh Clemm, VP of Engineering at Dropbox 17.04.2026 59min

  Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyJosh Clemm, VP of Engineering at Dropbox, joins Georgie Healy to cut through the noise and get to what is actually happening with AI agents right now. Josh has scaled engineering teams at LinkedIn and Uber Eats, founded his own AI venture, and is now building Dash, Dropbox's context layer designed to make agents dramatically more reliable. This is someone who has been on the coalface of this technology longer than most.In this episode Josh introduces two ideas that will change how you think about AI at work. Context rot, the reason your large language models quietly get dumber the more information you give them. And work slop, the plausible sounding but completely hollow output that gets generated when AI tools are used without intention. He also delivers the most reassuring reality check of the year for anyone feeling overwhelmed by the idea that everyone already has a fully functioning team of AI agents working for them.They also get into how the index approach behind Dash solves what real time fetching cannot, why the next AI breakthrough might actually come from old fashioned software engineering principles, and the two engineers Josh considers the greatest builders of their generation and why neither of them was asked to build what they built.✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  How to Build Distribution Before You Build the Product with Frank Greeff from Kinso (Replay Ep) 03.04.2026 46min

  Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyFrank Greeff, the founder behind a $180M exit and the viral Founders Table series, is back, this time building Kinso, an AI messaging aggregation tool set to change how businesses communicate. Instead of retiring after one of Australia’s biggest tech acquisitions, Frank is diving back into the grind, sharing why momentum and purpose keep him building.In this episode, Frank reveals the AI hacks that surprised even his engineers, why scrappy MVPs may not survive in today’s fast-moving AI wave, and how personal branding gives founders a hidden moat. Georgie and Frank also dig into what it takes to self-fund after top VCs said no, attracting A+ engineering talent in a competitive market, and why “taste” will define which AI products win.Plus, Frank unpacks Meta’s $100M AI hires, the rise of deepfakes and how he protects his family, and answers listener questions on planning exits, building AI startups, and navigating AGI, UBI, and the future of work, all while playing a spicy rapid-fire round.Time Stamps03:20 – What is Kinso and why aggregate business messaging06:15 – Why Frank couldn’t retire after a $180M exit10:45 – Hack of the Week: how non-technical founders can challenge engineers with AI14:30 – Why Frank thinks MVPs can’t be scrappy anymore18:00 – Building a founding team: attracting top AI engineering talent23:30 – Meta’s $100M AI hires and how Kinso competes26:40 – Why VCs rejected Kinso and why Frank’s self-funding30:50 – Taste as a moat: what makes great AI products stand out33:00 – How building an AI startup differs from RealBase36:00 – Planning for exits: documentation and timing40:30 – Deepfakes and Frank’s “secret password” strategy43:20 – Rapid Fire: AGI, UBI, future of work, and moreResources Mentioned🌐 Kinso – https://www.kinso.ai/🔗 Frank Greeff on LinkedIn – / frankgreeff✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  The Right and Wrong Way to Use AI Agents in Customer Service with Jason Maynard, CTO of Zendesk 20.03.2026 45min

  Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyJason Maynard, CTO of Zendesk, joins Georgie Healy for a conversation that cuts through the AI automation hype and gets to what is actually happening on the front lines of customer service.Jason shares the framework every business needs right now for deciding where automation genuinely helps customers and where it quietly destroys trust. He introduces the dolphin problem, the counterintuitive reason why the brands that listen hardest to complaints end up winning the most. And he explains why, despite everything you are hearing about AI replacing jobs, customer service job postings in the United States went up 10% in 2025.They also get into digital snap and how to design your way out of it, why your AI agent is really just an extension of your brand identity, a brand new role emerging inside service organisations that looks a lot like what happened to marketing in the early 2000s, and three rapid fire scenarios that reveal exactly when you need a human and when you do not.This is one of the most grounded and practical conversations we have had on the show about what AI in customer service actually looks like when it is done well.✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  How to build faster with AI in 2026 13.03.2026 36min

  Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyEpisode SummaryJeanne DeWitt Grosser, Chief Operating Officer at Vercel, joins Georgie in Sydney to discuss what the shift to agentic AI actually means for developers, founders, and enterprise teams in 2026. Jeanne shares why the primitives required to build reliable agents at scale have only just arrived, and what that means for companies still stitching together fragmented infrastructure.They explore Vercel's product suite, the real-world application of vibe coding for non-technical builders, and why Next.js has become the default framework that AI models reach for unprompted. Jeanne also breaks down the go-to-market and engineering alignment model Vercel has built internally, and the design partnership approach, refined at Stripe, that turns customer relationships into a product roadmap.The conversation covers what founders should prioritise right now, why small and fast beats big and planned in the current AI landscape, and how to get genuine signal from customers before you try to sell them anything.Time Stamps0:00 Intro03:07 The Role of Engineers in AI Development06:01 Transitioning from Tech Giants to Startups08:56 Vercel's Impact on Development in Australia12:10 Understanding Vercel's v0 and Next.js14:53 The Future of AI and Development Tools18:10 Bridging the Gap Between Technical and Sales Teams21:10 Feedback Loops and Customer Insights24:03 The Emergence of Go-to-Market Engineers27:02 Empathy in Sales and Engineering29:50 Advice for Navigating AI Overwhelm✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  The Future of AI Payments: Agents, Stablecoins and Going Global 06.03.2026 44min

  Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyEpisode SummaryStripe’s Head of Startups, Hayley Hopwood, joins Georgie to unpack what the next era of commerce actually looks like and why founders need to rethink payments now, not later.They start with something unexpected: vibe coding a household chore app in 20 minutes. But the conversation quickly moves into much bigger territory. From OpenAI’s arrival in Australia to agentic commerce and Stablecoins, Hayley explains how AI is reshaping the final mile of every transaction and why payments are no longer just infrastructure, they are strategy.They dive into frictionless checkout, tokenisation, and the psychology of “one click” buying. Hayley shares why Australia will not build the next foundational LLM but can absolutely dominate in niche AI verticals like health, insurance, agriculture and education. She also unpacks why founders must build for global from day one, even if they are only selling locally, and how ignoring tax, currency and billing models early can quietly kill your scale later.Plus: is B2B SaaS actually dead, what jobs will change first in the AI era, why mediocrity will not survive, and what founders should do in 2026 to stay ahead of the curve.This is a masterclass in building durable infrastructure in a world moving at AI speed.In the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Post IntroStripe StartupsFor early-stage, venture-backed founders – Stripe Startups is where to start. Enrol in the program and receive access to credits on Stripe fees, expert insights, and a focused community of other founders building on Stripe. Apply for Stripe Startups at dayone.fm/stripeStripe Ad_Nov 2025_02
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  The Copyright War That Will Shape the Future of Music and AI | With Holly Rankin (aka Jack River) 27.02.2026 50min

  Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyEpisode SummaryEvery time you ask an AI to write a song, generate a script, or mimic a creative style, there's a good chance it learned how to do that by consuming someone's life's work, without asking, without paying, and without them ever knowing.In October 2025, the Albanese Government became the first in the world to rule out a text and data mining exception to copyright law, a landmark win for creators that is now being actively challenged by the tech industry. It's the backdrop to everything Holly and Georgie discuss here.Holly Rankin, the artist behind Jack River and founder of cultural strategy company Sentiment Agency, has testified before Australian Parliament and become one of the most articulate voices in the fight to ensure the AI economy doesn't get built on the back of stolen human culture. In this episode she and Georgie get into the staggering labour that goes into making a single song, why the "it's too complicated to license" argument from Big Tech is a convenient myth, and what the Anthropic book piracy settlement really signals about where this is all heading. But underneath the policy detail is a bigger question: if we let machines consume and replicate everything that makes us human, what exactly are we left with?Jack River - https://www.jackrivermusic.com/Holly Rankin Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/holly-rankin-3535912b3/In the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Stripe StartupsFor early-stage, venture-backed founders – Stripe Startups is where to start. Enrol in the program and receive access to credits on Stripe fees, expert insights, and a focused community of other founders building on Stripe. Apply for Stripe Startups at dayone.fm/stripeStripe Ad_Nov 2025_02Deel x PX_Post Intro
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  AI Bias, Sex Robots & The Algorithms Radicalising Your Kids 20.02.2026 52min

  Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyEpisode SummaryTracey Spicer is one of Australia’s most respected journalists and the author of Man-Made: How the Bias of the Past Is Being Built into the Future. In this episode, Georgie sits down with Tracey for a sharp, funny, and occasionally jaw-dropping conversation about what happens when we treat AI like neutral math instead of what it really is: opinion written in code.They unpack why algorithmic bias is getting worse in the generative AI era, how recommendation engines can quietly radicalise people (from Andrew Tate pipelines to hyper-performative “tradwife” culture), and why “move fast” without guardrails is a dangerous blueprint. The discussion also goes into the weird and unsettling frontier of humanoid home robots, privacy risks in always-on devices, and what Tracey learned researching sex robots, including the disturbing ways consent is engineered out of the product.Plus: why Tracey’s favourite AI tool is Claude, what she thinks about Grok and the chaos machine of X, why we are not getting a four day work week anytime soon, and her case for “regulatory sandpits” to test AI safely before it hits the rest of the world.Time Stamps01:10 – Tracey’s TEDx “The lady stripped bare” moment and why it still matters04:45 – Beauty standards, AI filters, and why expectations on young women have intensified08:20 – Man-Made and the epiphany that sparked Tracey’s AI obsession11:10 – The AI arms race, speed, and why we are in the “seatbelt era” of tech14:30 – Digital natives vs critical thinking: the hallucination blind spot16:45 – Tracey’s AI stack: why Claude is her daily driver19:05 – Humanoid home robots: convenience vs surveillance21:55 – Strength vs security: what actually scares Tracey about robots24:35 – Sex robots and the consent problem manufacturers do not talk about28:10 – Algorithms as “opinions in code” and how radicalisation happens33:10 – Removing bias: conversations, perspective checks, and inclusive design35:00 – Grok, MechaHitler, and what happens when platforms mirror their owners36:45 – Deepfake porn, consent, and why regulation is finally catching up38:10 – No, AI will not magically deliver a four day work week41:10 – Future jobs: law, AI assistants, and why juniors still need fundamentals44:15 – Indigenous knowledge, language revitalisation, and the full-circle AI story46:50 – Rapid fire: brain chips, Waymo, smart glasses, and AI “snog marry avoid”49:55 – What we should do now: regulatory sandpits and real guardrailsIn the Blink of AI is made possible by our wonderful partnersDeelFounders scale faster on Deel. Set up payroll for any country in minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling. Deel takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance, so your team can grow without borders.It’s why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust Deel to move fast.Visit https://www.deel.com/dayone✨ Connect with Georgie HealyWeekly Substack: https://georgiehealy.substack.com/Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georginahealy/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georginahealytech/The Day One NetworkIn The Blink of AI is part of Day One, the podcast network dedicated to founders, operators & investors.Sign up to get your weekly insights into the up-and-coming AI startups: https://dayone.fm/newsletterMentioned in this episode:Stripe StartupsFor early-stage, venture-backed founders – Stripe Startups is where to start. Enrol in the program and receive access to credits on Stripe fees, expert insights, and a focused community of other founders building on Stripe. Apply for Stripe Startups at dayone.fm/stripeStripe Ad_Nov 2025_02Deel x PX_Post Intro