Pay the Farmer, Not the Pharmacy
Meera & Ashok Vasudevan
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Meera and Ashok Vasudevan, veterans of the plant-based and natural food industry, share evidence-based tips for improving digestion, gut health, and immunity through everyday kitchen practices. The podcast promotes affordable wellness by encouraging home cooking with heritage brands like Annapurna and Captain Cook. It also features talks and interviews with Ashok Vasudevan on food and wellness topics. Brought to you by CSAW, the Centre for the Spread of Affordable Wellness.
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READ THE LABEL: EPISODE 2 OF 4 15.09.2026 6minShare your thoughts CODEX: The Committee That Feeds the World A committee in Rome decides what goes into your food — and it was never asked whether any of it makes you well. Last week we turned a packet over. This week we go to Rome — to a building most people have never heard of, housing a committee that quietly decides what may go into food, everywhere on earth. Ashok and Meera introduce Codex Alimentarius: founded in 1963 by two arms of the United Nations, 189 members, and the author of th... -
READ THE LABEL — EPISODE 1 of 4 08.09.2026 6minShare your thoughts Food Labels: What’s Really in Your Food? The ice cream that wouldn’t melt — and the question nobody is asking about what you eat. Ashok bought an ice cream bar at a railway kiosk in Wales and made the mistake of turning it over: the first seven ingredients belonged in a kitchen, the next ten in a lab. Then, from Wales to Antigua — where Meera made her own discovery: a strawberry ice cream in a cup that simply refused to melt, sitting there like a mousse, holding its ... -
WE ARE WHAT WE EAT— EPISODE 4 OF 4 01.09.2026 6minShare your thoughts The Kitchen and the Pivot: Pay the Farmer, Not the Pharmacy (We Are What We Eat, Part 4 of 4) The finale begins in the oldest wellness institution on earth: grandmother's kitchen. Turmeric, ferments, whole grains, seasonal vegetables — preventive medicine served three times a day and called lunch. In the closing episode of the series based on Ashok's Substack essay, Ashok and Meera connect that compressed wisdom (via Michael Pollan's famous rule) to the modern evidence — a... -
WE ARE WHAT WE EAT—EPISODE 3 OF 4 25.08.2026 6minShare your thoughts The Great Decoupling: Sixty Years, One Chart (We Are What We Eat, Part 3 of 4) At the heart of Ashok's Substack essay is a single chart: sixty years of food industry growth — revenue up ~26x, market value up ~100x since 1980 — drawn against sixty years of rising obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and depression. In Part 3, Ashok and Meera read that chart honestly: not as prosecution (correlation isn't causation, and they say so), but as provocation. What changed in the 1970s... -
WE ARE WHAT W EAT— EPISODE 2 OF 4 18.08.2026 6minShare your thoughts The Four Disorders: What Modern Food Does to Us (We Are What We Eat, Part 2 of 4) Obesity, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, depression — four conditions that now define modern healthcare, each with a direct line to the plate. In Part 2 of our series based on Ashok's Substack essay "We Are What We Eat," Ashok and Meera take the four disorders one at a time and follow the evidence: the NIH trial in which ultra-processed diets led people to eat 500 extra calories a day without ... -
WE ARE WHAT WE EAT: EPISODE 1 OF 4 11.08.2026 6minShare your thoughts The Promise: How Food Became an Industry (We Are What We Eat, Part 1 of 4) For 150 years, the food industry was one of civilization's great success stories. In Part 1 of this four-part series — based on Ashok's Substack essay "We Are What We Eat — And What the Food Industry Decided to Feed Us" — Ashok and Meera trace the remarkable arc from Nicolas Appert's 1810 preservation breakthrough, through the rise of the great brands that fed growing cities, to the Codex Alimentari... -
Cyclospora: Ep 2/2 A little "Heat" goes a long way 04.08.2026 7minShare your thoughts As always in this series, co-hosts Ashok and Meera Vasudevan pull up two chairs for a fireside chat — evidence-based, a little cheeky, and firmly in the kitchen, never the clinic. This is Part 2 of a two-part special. Part 1 left us with a puzzle: the one thing that would have stopped the Cyclospora outbreak — heat — is the thing the raw-food gospel never mentions. So this episode asks a bigger question. Is raw actually the healthiest way to eat a vegetable? Three witnesse... -
Cyclospora: The Salad that bit back. Ep 1/2 28.07.2026 7minShare your thoughts As always in this series, co-hosts Ashok and Meera Vasudevan pull up two chairs for a fireside chat — evidence-based, a little cheeky, and firmly in the kitchen, never the clinic. This is Part 1 of a two-part special, timed to the 2026 Cyclospora outbreak. First, the basics done properly: what cyclosporiasis is, and how you actually get it — no biology lecture, just the one thing that matters, which is that it rides in on raw food. Then the outbreak: since May, U.S. author... -
Pharma, Food & the Fluent Consumer- Ep.4/4 21.07.2026 5minShare your thoughts We read our lunch like a lab report — and feel virtuous about a bar built in a factory while waving off dal and rice as “just carbs.” In the finale of “Off the Treadmill,” co-hosts Ashok and Meera Vasudevan take the third corner of the triangle — us — and show how our own fluency makes us the perfect customer. Then they step off. As always in this series, co-hosts Ashok and Meera Vasudevan pull up two chairs for a fireside chat — evidence-based, a little cheeky, and firmly... -
Pharma, Food & the Fluent Consumer Ep.3/4 14.07.2026 5minShare your thoughts How many eggs are you allowed this week? Depends what year you ask. In Episode 3 of 4 in thos series co-hosts Ashok and Meera Vasudevan take the second corner of the triangle — the food industry — and the verdicts that flip a full 180 degrees within a decade. Eggs, butter, coconut oil… and the peanut reversal whose bill was paid by children. In this episode • The egg: 47 years rationed to three a week — on a cholesterol cap with no clinical-trial e... -
Pharma, Food & the Fluent Consumer Ep.2/4 07.07.2026 4minShare your thoughts In this episode 2/4, co-hosts Ashok and Meera Vasudevan pull up two chairs for a fireside chat — evidence-based, a little cheeky, and firmly in the kitchen, never the clinic. Medical thresholds move — and they almost always move in the direction that creates more patients. In this episode, they walk through the quiet downward drift in the levels of blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar, and bone density, and then zero in on the cleanest example of all: vitamin D. In thi... -
Pharma, Food & the Fluent Consumer Ep.1/4 30.06.2026 5minShare your thoughts As always, in this series too, co-hosts Ashok and Meera Vasudevan pull up two chairs for a fireside chat — evidence-based, a little cheeky, and firmly in the kitchen, never the clinic. This is Episode 1 of their four-part series adapted from Ashok's widely-shared essay “Pharma, Food, and the Fluent Consumer.” In this episode • How the 2017 blood-pressure rule made ~31 million Americans “sick” overnight — with no change to their bodies • The ... -
You are Not That Busy— Ep 4/4 of the Series The Kitcehn Defence 23.06.2026 5minShare your thoughts When did we decide a manicure is self-care but cooking is a burden? In the finale of The Kitchen Defence, Ashok and Meera take apart the last excuse standing — 'I'm too busy' — with affection and a straight face. We prep our work wardrobes and our beauty routines; we can prep dinner. One gives you shiny nails. The other keeps you alive and shining. You are not that busy — and here's the plan. Thanks for tuning in to "Pay the Farmer, Not the Pharmacy"! Hosted by Meera... -
The Masterchefs—Ep 3/4 of the Series The Kitchen Defence 16.06.2026 5minShare your thoughts Before paracetamol, before antibiotics, there was the spice rack. In episode 3 of The Kitchen Defence, Ashok and Meera pay tribute to our grandmothers — the original MasterChefs who were also the original pharmacists. They ran farms, families and a full healing lexicon of foods, with no Instapot and very little help. What did they know that we forgot — and how do we get it back? #FoodAsMedicine #KitchenPharmacy #TraditionalFood #HomeCooking #KitchenDefence #PayTheFar... -
Sudoku with a Spatula— Ep 2/4 of the Series The Kitchen Defence 09.06.2026 6minShare your thoughts Turns out your stove is a gym for your brain. In episode 2 of The Kitchen Defence, Ashok and Meera dig into the real neuroscience of cooking — the studies where people who cooked literally improved their memory and executive function. It's planning, timing, multitasking, and improvisation all at once: left brain and right brain firing in unison. Skip the brain-training app. Cook dinner instead Thanks for tuning in to "Pay the Farmer, Not the Pharmacy"! Hosted by Meera &... -
The 27-Minute Problem— Episode 1/4 of the Series The Kitchen Defence 02.06.2026 7minShare your thoughts Cooking has shrunk to almost nothing. Americans now spend just 27 minutes a day on it — down from over an hour in the 1960s, and falling. We've quietly handed one of the most important things we do to somebody else. In that same window, obesity and diabetes rates spiralled. Coincidence? In the opener to our four-part Kitchen Defence, Ashok and Meera make the case that we didn't lose the time to cook — we gave it away, and our health went with it. Plus: why Ozempic might be... -
Ultra-Processed: The NOVA Test for What's Actually in Your Pantry 26.05.2026 7minShare your thoughts You've heard the phrase "ultra-processed foods" everywhere. The 2025 Lancet Series called them a global health threat. The wellness world treats UPF as the new villain. But most people still can't tell you what counts as ultra-processed and what doesn't — because the definition is genuinely fuzzy, and the term is doing a lot of work in one breath. In this fireside chat, Ashok and Meera Vasudevan hand listeners the literacy tool the conversation is missing: the NOVA classif... -
Inflammation: The Word Everyone Uses, Almost No One Defines 19.05.2026 7minShare your thoughts "Inflammation" is the word of the wellness decade. It's on supplement bottles, in podcast titles, and on the back of every functional drink. But ask ten people what it actually means, and you'll get ten different answers — most of them muddled with weight, fatigue, or vague dread. In this fireside chat, Ashok and Meera Vasudevan clear the fog. The episode draws three lines most wellness conversations refuse to draw: the difference between acute inflammation (the body heali... -
Seed Oils:The Villain Story That's Half True 12.05.2026 7minShare your thoughts The internet has decided seed oils are a public enemy. But is the panic warranted — or have the scholars dropped the scholarship in the bully pulpit? In this fireside chat, Ashok and Meera Vasudevan take the criticism seriously and take it apart. Yes, industrial extraction is ugly. Yes, reusing frying oil is a real problem. Yes, the modern omega-6 to omega-3 ratio has gone wildly off course. But that's not a seed problem — it's a processing problem. And lumping olive, sesa... -
Eat Like Your Gut Is Listening 05.05.2026 9minShare your thoughts Eat Like Your Gut Is Listening Over the last three episodes, we have made the case that the gut is the organ running the show. That your mood, your skin, your lungs, and your brain are all in conversation with your microbiome, every single day. That dysbiosis -- an imbalanced, low-diversity gut ecosystem -- is the common thread behind conditions that send people to four different specialists. This is the episode where it all becomes practical. Episode 4 is the Kitchen Rese...
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