Fruitless
Josiah Sutton
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A show hosted by Josiah Sutton that explores topics spanning history, politics, faith, media, and the internet. It aims to publish at least two free episodes each month, with additional content available through Patreon. The artwork is created by Kipp Paulsen. The podcast offers a mix of cultural commentary and analysis.
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Testifying to Love: Avalon (feat. Josh Boerman) 08.08.2026 2h 26minChristian Rock Summer comes to a close with something a little softer, melodic, and worshipful. On today's episode, Josh Boerman (The Worst of All Possible Worlds, Ill Conceived) returns to testify to love and also cause some name confusion by joining Josiah and Josh Christianson for a conversation about the Christian vocal quarter, Avalon, and the state of CCM in the 90s. It turns out, it was pretty homophobic.Follow Josh on Bluesky @bosh.worstpossible.worldListen to The Worst of All Possible Worlds: worstpossible.worldListen to Ill Conceived: https://www.illconceivedpodcast.com/Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesAvalon Essentials, Spotify Playlist, https://open.spotify.com/playlist/55mkNaVTJ3mJJRevfFB1hiGod Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Christian Contemporary Music by Leah Payne"Michael Passons (Pt 1) Breaks Silence: His Truth About Avalon, Christian Music & 20‑Year Return," The Patrick Custer Show on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmWXtnECYP0"Michael Passons' Full Story (Pt 2): Forced Out of Avalon, Out of The Closet & Conversion Therapy," The Patrick Custer Show on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ9ctLW-2Yo"Michael Passons Says His Sexuality Was the Real Reason for Leaving Avalon," Joe Lynch in Billboard, https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/michael-passons-avalon-9447362/"Former Avalon singer on coming out, getting ousted and where he is today," Joey DiGuglielmo in Washington Blade, https://www.washingtonblade.com/2020/10/20/former-avalon-singer-on-coming-out-getting-ousted-and-where-he-is-today/"Former Avalon Member Melissa Greene to Jen Hatmaker: Christian Music Was Built on the ‘Back of So Many Queer People,’" Jessica Mouser in ChurchLeaders, https://churchleaders.com/news/2218790-avalon-melissa-greene-jen-hatmaker-christian-music-queer-people.htmlAudio creditsJesus Freak - DC TalkTestify to Love - AvalonAvalon on the Oxygen Tour in 2001, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIRRO1bswqcYesterday - bloom.Give It Up - AvalonTestify to Love, from Touched by an Angel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvzaIUpo2RkKnockin' On Heaven's Door - AvalonCan't Live a Day - AvalonCan't Live a Day (DJ Tiesto Remix) - AvalonPart 2 of the Michael Passons interview on the Patrick Custer Show, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ9ctLW-2YoTestify to Love - Michael Passons + Ty Herndon (feat. Melissa Greene)Bass - NoCopyrightMusic ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] Party Rocking in Heaven: Family Force 5 28.07.2026 10minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/u11922141/posts/party-rocking-in-164986298Christian Rock Summer 2026 continues! On today's episode, Alien, Caleb, Josh, and Josiah wrap up July by pledging allegiance to the U.S. Cray. We discuss some of the savviest goofs in CCM, and the only band that would ever dare to create "Christian crunkcore": Family Force 5. Get ready, as we defeat our robot overlords with the power of dance and brotherhood.Music by SHADE08 and Family Force 5 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] Nearly Successful Artistic Integrity: As Cities Burn 26.07.2026 11minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/u11922141/posts/164840372Christian Rock Summer 2026 continues! On today's episode, Josh, Josiah, and Nate discuss the prince (but never quite king) of Christian screamo/post-hardcore: As Cities Burn.Music by SHADE08 and As Cities Burn ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
Woke Youth Group Ska: Five Iron Frenzy 24.07.2026 2h 50minChristian Rock Summer 2026 continues! And this time, we're tackling Christian ska. On today's episode, James C. Liker, Josh, and Josiah go through the story of everyone's favorite woke youth group band, Five Iron Frenzy.Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesThe Five Iron Frenzy Episode, YouTube Playlist, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWdQp6Z35FnIThe Rise and Fall of Five Iron Frenzy (2010), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDxNJ-omuw8"Five Iron Frenzy: An extensive oral history of the band straight from the members themselves," Tom Murphy in Westword, https://www.westword.com/music/five-iron-frenzy-an-extensive-oral-history-of-the-band-straight-from-the-members-themselves-5714595/"Our Newest Podcast Ever - Episode 18 - Reese Roper Interview," https://open.spotify.com/episode/5360LMumZ6LBa4gbSHDygY?utm_source=copy-link"To Change Your Mind: Christlikeness (Reese Roper) (#13)," You Have Permission, https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/to-change-your-mind-christlikeness-reese-roper-13/id1448000113?i=1000432179616"Reese Roper: Five Iron Frenzy," The Black Sheep Podcast, https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reese-roper-five-iron-frenzy/id1224409460?i=1000507441077"An Interview With Reese Roper Of Five Iron Frenzy," Brandon James in Indie Vision Music, https://www.indievisionmusic.com/interviews/reese-roper-of-five-iron-frenzy/"Spotlight on Reese Roper and Five Iron Frenzy," French Davis in Yellowscene, https://yellowscene.com/2021/03/02/spotlight-on-reese-roper-and-five-iron-frenzy/"Reese Played Acquire the Fire. He Didn't Light It, But He Tried to Fight It," The Pickle and Boot Shop Podcast, https://open.spotify.com/episode/477hqRBYAviJNlaydHm6FiAudio creditsJesus Freak - DC TalkThe Old West - Five Iron FrenzyYesterday – bloom.Kamikaze - Five Iron FrenzyAmerican Kryptonite - Five Iron FrenzyZen and the Art of Xenophobia - Five Iron FrenzyEverywhere I Go - Five Iron Frenzy (originally by Amy Grant)Where Zero Meets 15 - Five Iron FrenzyA Flowery Song - Five Iron FrenzyHandbook for the Sellout - Five Iron FrenzyFistful of Sand - Five Iron FrenzyBlue Comb '78 - Five Iron FrenzyBanner Year - Five Iron FrenzyOh, Canada - Five Iron FrenzyEvery New Day - Five Iron FrenzyIntroduction - Five Iron FrenzyMy Evil Plan to Save the World - Five Iron FrenzyAll That Is Good - Five Iron FrenzyDandelions - Five Iron FrenzyWhen I Go Out - Five Iron FrenzyGet Your Riot Gear - Five Iron FrenzyThe Untimely Death of Brad - Five Iron FrenzyThese Are Not My Pants (The Rock Opera) - Five Iron FrenzyFahrenheit - Five Iron FrenzyFour-Fifty-One - Five Iron FrenzyGiants - Five Iron FrenzyA New Hope - Five Iron FrenzyFar, Far Away - Five Iron FrenzyThe Day We Killed - Five Iron FrenzyBlue Mix - Five Iron FrenzyVultures - Five Iron FrenzyRhubarb Pie - Five Iron FrenzyDog Food - Five Iron FrenzySo Far, So Bad - Five Iron FrenzyWizard Needs Food, Badly - Five Iron FrenzyThat's How the Story Ends - Five Iron FrenzyDay of Pigs - RoperIt Was a Dark and Stormy Night - Five Iron FrenzySomeone Else's Problem - Five Iron FrenzyI Am Jack's Smirking Revenge - Five Iron FrenzyBlizzards & Bygones - Five Iron FrenzyBattle Dancing Unicorns With Glitter - Five Iron FrenzyWhile Supplies Last - Five Iron Frenzy ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
GWOT Church Rock (feat. Blood Work) 19.07.2026 1h 52minWelcome to Christian Rock Summer 2026! We're kicking it off this year with an album about spiritual warfare that takes the war metaphor a bit too literally. On today's episode, Josh and Josiah were joined by Tom O'Mahony and Gregk Foley from Blood Work to discuss The Heart of War by Christian "hard rock" band Jonah33. Follow Gregk on Bluesky @gregk.co.ukFollow Tom on Twitter @gotitatguineys or Bluesky @gotitatguineys.bsky.socialFollow Blood Work on Twitter @bloodworkshow or Bluesky @bloodwork.showListen to Blood Work: bloodwork.showListen to Lions Led By Donkeys and Beneath the SkinBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferences"Jonah33 Goes to War," New Release Today, https://www.newreleasetoday.com/article/jonah33-goes-to-war"Jonah33," Jesusfreakhideout, https://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/cdreviews/Jonah33.asp"Jonah33," ChristianMusic.com, http://www.christianmusic.com/jonah33/jonah33.htm"Vince Lichlyter and Jonah33: An Arkansas-based rock veteran returns," Cross Rhythms, https://www.crossrhythms.co.uk/articles/music/Vince_Lichlyter_and_Jonah33_An_Arkansasbased_rock_veteran_returns/53343/p1/Audio creditsJesus Freak - DC TalkYesterday – bloom.Faith Like That - Jonah33Last One Standing - Jonah33Desensitized - Jonah33Bullets - Jonah33Fire At Will - Jonah33Scream - Jonah33Brand New Way to Live - Jonah33No Song Left to Sing - Jonah33Never Alone - Jonah33Sample of a D beat from Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D-beat_(candidate_2).oggWhite Flag - Jonah33Bass - NoCopyrightMusic ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] Human = Knife Man (MX #25) 30.06.2026 11minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/u11922141/posts/162468855It's the June music exchange!! In this installment, Josh and Josiah discuss Human = Garbage by Dystopia and Knife Man by AJJ. Also the Reflecting Pool.Music by Dystopia, AJJ, and SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
God Hates Fred Phelps (feat. Joseph) 28.06.2026 1h 7minJoseph joins Josiah to talk about Fred Phelps, the Westboro Baptist Church, and the weird politics of fringe fundamentalism. Follow Joseph on Twitter @gross_online or Bluesky @grossonline.bsky.socialGo back and listen to the VLVC episode about Jack Chick here: https://share.transistor.fm/s/b01a24cfBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferencesGod Hates: Westboro Baptist Church, American Nationalism, and the Religious Right by Rebecca Barrett-Fox"Conversion via Twitter," Adrian Chen in New Yorker, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/11/23/conversion-via-twitter-westboro-baptist-church-megan-phelps-roperMusic & Audio creditsGroove - NoCopyrightMusicBass - NoCopyrightMusicFunny - NoCopyrightMusicYesterday – bloom.A Pillar of Salt - The Thermals ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
Ready 4 Ze New World Order (feat. Manasseh) 22.06.2026 1h 14minOn today's episode, Manasseh (@oswiu.bsky.social) joins Josiah and James C. Liker to hang out and talk about our evil tech overlords, the U.S. losing the war in Iran, space exploration, and the Future. This is a pretty casual one.Follow Manasseh on Bluesky @oswiu.bsky.socialBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusic & Audio creditsDeep Bass - NoCopyrightMusicBass - NoCopyrightMusicYesterday – bloom.R U Ready 4 Ze New World Order by MichaelanthonyFeel - NoCopyrightMusic ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] American Fútbol (FSC #4) 03.06.2026 10minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/american-futbol-159747911SPORTS!!! It's the fourth installment of the Fruitless Sports Corner (FSC): a semi-reoccurring series where Josiah, Nathan Thiessen, Chris Barker, and Jake the Lawyer talk about sports. On today's episode we discuss the UEFA Champions League final, Matt Bruenig's terrible sports takes, the Indy 500, Josiah trying to get everyone into the European Football Alliance, multi-club ownership, the upcoming World Cup, Chris rooting for CONCACAF, mixed feelings about rooting for USMNT in the current geopolitical climate, horrible ticket prices, and what's going on with the Cubs.Music by Viagra Boys and SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] Armed Forces of Mind (MX #24) 31.05.2026 16minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/159759208It's the May music exchange!! That's right. It's also the 69th Patreon episode and I've been told that's an epic number. In this installment, Josh and Josiah discuss Armed Forces by Elvis Costello & The Attractions and Piece of Mind by Iron Maiden. Also the alleged federal pedophile relief fund.Music by Iron Maiden, Elvis Costello & The Attractions, and SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] Cybershirts 24.05.2026 15minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/159144943Josh, Chris, and Josiah discuss Elizabeth Sandifer's essay, "The Blind All-Seeing Eye of Gamergate," and the rise of fascist cyberpolitics. Also Chris talks about the Indy 500.Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
Justin Tells Josiah Who To Vote For (feat. Justin Comer) 20.05.2026 1h 43minThe Iowa Primary is coming up on June 2nd. Josiah has been a low information voter this year, so Justin Comer from Rock Hard Caucus is here to tell him who to vote for.Follow Justin on Bluesky @justinkcomer.rockhardcauc.usCheck out Rock Hard Caucus: rockhardcauc.usBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusic & Audio creditsFeel - NoCopyrightMusicBass - NoCopyrightMusicYesterday – bloom."Josh Turek - Underdog," Josh Turek on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCD3vVVAa7U"I'm Running for U.S. Senate," Zach Wahls for Iowa on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlwK00ol_I"Ashley Hinson for Congress - WATCH IT," Ashley Hinson on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNSd0px_96Q"Sen. Joni Ernst defends Medicaid cuts, says 'well, we all are going to die'," Associated Press on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVxh7-_fkvg"2014, Joni Ernst - Squeal - political ad - closed captioned," Captioning for Everyone on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8uLuHsNw0"Sarah Trone Garriott 2024," Sarah Trone Garriott on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hon2AI7E8CE"Bohannan: Doing What's Right," Bohannan for Congress on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzZSYtSCJew"President Biden: I'm staying in the race!," C-SPAN on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk10PQ_h2io"Feenstra Formally Launches Campaign for Governor of Iowa," Feenstra for Governor on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLmqUgPTHuA"Good vs. Evil," Adam Steen for Governor on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAc6-rAYrvY"Zach Lahn - Defend our Land," Zach Lahn for Governor on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-DBn5FBN4o"Stealing is Bad - Rob Sand for Iowa," Rob Sand on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUiHlQRxPDcRob Sand's legalization ad on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/reel/4850102835216495In My Dreams - bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
The Tech Bro Trilogy 16.05.2026 1h 52minJosh, Alien, and Josiah discuss three movies that can help us explore the psyche of our tech bro overlords: Primer (2004), The Social Network (2010), and BlackBerry (2021).Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferences"What is 'Muskism?'," Read Max, https://maxread.substack.com/p/what-is-muskism"Muskism with Quinn Slobodian and Ben Tarnoff," DEATH // SENTENCE, https://soundcloud.com/death-sentence-pod/muskism-quinn-slobodian-ben-tarnoff"A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace," John Perry Barlow, https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independencePalantir's summary of The Technological Republic aka the Palantir manifesto, https://x.com/PalantirTech/status/2045574398573453312Neoreaction a Basilisk by Elizabeth SandiferMusic & Audio creditsClip of Marc Andreessen explaining that he doesn't do any introspection, pulled from BlueSky post: https://bsky.app/profile/davelee.me/post/3mh5hgwdb5c27Yesterday – bloom.Audio from Primer (2004)Audio from The Social Network (2010)Audio from BlackBerry (2021)Wish - Nine Inch Nails ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] Tony Hawk, Where Art Thou? (MX #23) 30.04.2026 10minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/156983152It's the April music exchange! In this installment, Josh and I discuss the O Brother Where Art Thou? soundtrack and the Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 soundtrack CD. Music by The Soggy Bottom Boys, Alien Ant Farm, and SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
Revolution in a Socialist Fashion (feat. Rike) 25.04.2026 1h 27minToday is the 52nd anniversary of the Carnation Revolution in Portugal. On this episode, Rike (@rikeyboi) returns to help explain the revolution to dumb Americans. Check out Rike's previous episode about No, or the Vain Glory of Command (1990) and the history of Portuguese national identity: https://share.transistor.fm/s/a57f5cb5Follow Rike on Twitter @rikeyboiBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIZWDsDrQ0XvDQFWzE6s2ggFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusic & audio credits90s Lofi type beat - LiadiiiYesterday – bloom.In My Dreams – bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] Iran Delenda Est (feat. Tribunate's Gaius) 21.04.2026 10minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/156218067Gaius from Tribunate returns to talk about the parallels between the Iran War and Rome's wars with Carthage and Persia.Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
Destabilizer (feat. Y. L. Al-Sheikh) 10.04.2026 1h 12minOn today's episode, Y.L. Al-Sheikh (Emissary of Night) joins Josiah to discuss the Iran War and the destabilization of the Middle East. Follow Y. L. on Twitter @EmissaryOfNight or Bluesky @DiplomatOfNight.com Find some of Y. L.'s work here: https://linktr.ee/EmissaryOfNightBecome a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIZWDsDrQ0XvDQFWzE6s2ggFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonMusic & audio creditsSunshine (Prod. Riddiman)Yesterday – bloom.In My Dreams - bloom. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] South of Simple Math (MX #22) 31.03.2026 10minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/154372459It's the March music exchange! In this installment, Josh and I discuss Simple Math by Manchester Orchestra and South of Heaven by Slayer. Also rage quitting jobs.Music by Manchester Orchestra, Slayer, and SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
A Beehive of Contradictions 30.03.2026 1h 46minOn today’s episode, Chris and Josiah continue with the show’s recent focus on fascism by discussing Ur-Fascism by Umberto Eco. Become a Fruitless Patron here: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141Check out Fruitless on YouTubeFind more of Josiah’s work: https://linktr.ee/josiahwsuttonFollow Josiah on Twitter @josiahwsuttonReferences"Ur-Fascism," Umberto Eco, https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascismMusic & Audio creditsTypical - MutemathYesterday – bloom.Comfort Eagle - CAKE ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ -
[Preview] Soldiers Without Combat 24.03.2026 10minTHIS IS A PREVIEW. IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, CHECK OUT FRUITLESS ON PATREON HERE: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=11922141EPISODE ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/posts/153865974On today's episode, Josh and Josiah talk about Claire Denis' 1999 arthouse drama about bored, shirtless French soldiers, Beau Travail (1999).Music by SHADE08 ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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