Why Care?
Nadia Nagamootoo
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Why Care? is a podcast about inclusion, diversity, and belonging, hosted by Nadia Nagamootoo. It features monthly conversations with experts on topics such as parenting, gender stereotypes, racial inequality, neurodiversity, and sexuality. The show is aimed at people with an inclusion, diversity, and belonging remit who want to build their knowledge and confidence. Listeners get practical advice and new thinking to help accelerate their organisation’s journey toward inclusion.
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65. What The Traitors Reveals About Trust and Ethical Leadership, with Amanda Collier 07.09.2026 43minWhat happens to trust and judgement when people are placed under intense pressure?Former Metropolitan Police Detective Chief Inspector and The Traitors contestant, Amanda Collier, joins Nadia Nagamootoo to explore human behaviour, resilience and ethical leadership.Amanda reveals why people instinctively seek safety in uncertain environments, how confidence can make someone a target and what the experience taught her about trust. Drawing on decades in serious crime and counter-terrorism operations, she shares how effective leaders make difficult decisions and create psychologically safe teams.She also reflects on being a gay woman in the Metropolitan Police during the 1990s, the tough persona she developed to survive and the emotional cost of appearing strong.Amanda also shares how medical checks for The Traitors uncovered a serious heart condition and inspired a new chapter of LGBTQ+ visibility, heart-health awareness and public service.This is a powerful conversation about integrity, identity and leading with humanity when the stakes are high.Key Takeaways:Under pressure, people form connections quickly and instinctively gravitate towards those who make them feel safe.Calmness and confidence can build trust, but they can also be perceived as authority, distance or threat.A strong professional persona may support survival and career progression while concealing a significant emotional cost.Effective leadership combines empathy and emotional intelligence with the courage to make difficult decisions.Character, kindness and respect are essential hiring considerations because technical skills alone do not create a healthy culture.Psychological safety grows when leaders trust their teams, protect specialist expertise and give people the authority to do their jobs.Leaders shape culture through the behaviours they reward, challenge and consistently demonstrate.Concealing parts of your identity at work can affect wellbeing, belonging and the ability to lead authentically.Integrity becomes most visible when certainty, familiar structures and control disappear.Unexpected adversity can create new opportunities for advocacy, service and personal purpose.Guest BioAmanda Collier is a former Detective Chief Inspector with the Metropolitan Police, with decades of experience working at the sharp end of policing, including serious and organised crime and counter‑terrorism operations. Throughout her career, Amanda led complex investigations, made high‑stakes decisions under pressure and developed a deep understanding of trust, influence and human behaviour. In 2026, Amanda became widely known as a contestant on BBC One’s The Traitors, where her calm authority, integrity and analytical thinking resonated strongly with audiences. Since leaving policing, Amanda has used this public platform to champion issues including leadership, resilience, public service and heart health awareness, following a life‑saving diagnosis uncovered during medical checks for the programme. Amanda brings a rare combination of frontline operational experience and public insight, offering powerful reflections on decision‑making, ethics, psychological safety and what it truly means to lead in environments where the stakes are high and uncertainty is constant.Links SpotifyAmanda Collier: | Instagram | TikTok | LinkedIn Nadia Nagamootoo: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Buy Beyond DiscomfortAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesProduced by Mauro Kenji Serra, Kenji Productions -
64. Allyship As A Leadership Skill, with Lee Chambers 13.07.2026 59minIn this episode of Why Care?, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by Lee Chambers, founder and CEO of Male Allies UK, for a powerful conversation about allyship, masculinity, gender equality and the urgent need to move from division to dialogue.Lee shares how serious illness, caregiving, fatherhood and his experience as a Black entrepreneur shaped his understanding of masculinity, purpose and impact. He explains why allyship is not an identity or ideology, but a set of practical skills that help people work across difference, build better relationships and create fairer systems.Together, Nadia and Lee explore why inclusion can feel threatening to some men, how fear and scarcity fuel polarisation, and why boys need broader, healthier scripts for what it means to be male. They also discuss autism, justice sensitivity, the manosphere, the Festival of the Boy, the Voice of Boys research and the Stronger Together Summit.This is a hopeful and practical episode about fairness, courage, curiosity and the role men can play in building workplaces and societies where everyone can thrive.Key Takeaways:Why allyship should be understood as a practical skill set, not a label or ideology.How fear, scarcity and polarisation make inclusion work harder, but more important.Why men often benefit personally from allyship through self-compassion, courage and stronger relationships.How Lee’s illness, caregiving role and time in women-dominated spaces reshaped his view of masculinity.Why boys are searching for a new script for masculinity, and how harmful online spaces exploit that need.How organisations can engage men who see inclusion as a threat, distraction or something being “done to them”.Why collaboration across difference can help workplaces move from gender division to gender dialogue.Guest BioLee Chambers is the founder and CEO of Male Allies UK, supporting organisations to engage men in inclusion and promote effective allyship. After a diverse career spanning corporate finance and tech entrepreneurship, Lee now focuses on gender equality, allyship, masculinity and workplace inclusion.He has been featured on the Startups 100 Index, received a Great British Entrepreneur Award, and sits on the board of CMI Women and Manchester Metropolitan University Business School. In 2024, he received the Freedom of the City of London for services to equality in business. He is also the 2023 UN Women Changemaker of the Year, an EDI Fellow at the University of East London, an ambassador for Working Families and 50:50 Parliament, and the author of Momentum: 13 Ways To Unlock Your Potential.Links SpotifyLee Chambers: Website | Instagram | LinkedIn | Buy Momentum: 13 Ways to Unlock Your PotentialNadia Nagamootoo: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Buy Beyond DiscomfortAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesProduced by Mauro Kenji Serra, Kenji Productions -
63. How to Create Safer Cultures at Work and Beyond, with Jamie Klingler 22.06.2026 53minIn this episode of Why Care?, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by writer, broadcaster and campaigner Jamie Klingler for a conversation about accidental activism, women’s safety, police reform and the institutional failures that still leave women carrying the burden of risk. Jamie reflects on the moment Sarah Everard’s murder pushed her from behind-the-scenes media work into national campaigning, how Reclaim These Streets was formed at breakneck speed, and why the vigil and High Court fight became a turning point in the public conversation on violence against women and girls.From there, the conversation widens into what has changed, what has not, and what leaders still fail to understand. Jamie speaks candidly about consent, male entitlement, the emotional toll of becoming a public voice on women’s safety, and why organisations cannot keep treating violence, harassment and misogyny as if they sit outside the workplace. The result is a powerful episode about courage, accountability and what it really takes to change culture rather than simply comment on it.Key TakeawaysThe public conversation on violence against women has moved, but institutions still lag behind.Consent education needs to go far beyond teaching girls how to say no.Men who want to help often need practical, behaviour-based guidance rather than abstract reassurance that they are “one of the good ones”.Organisations already know where the risks are. The issue is usually not awareness but whether leaders are willing to act early and decisively. Guest BioJamie Klingler became an activist and campaigner for women's safety and police reform as one of the founders of Reclaim These Streets, an organisation that was created after Sarah Everard, was abducted, raped and murdered by a serving police officer. The organisation tried to hold a vigil for Sarah, but the Metropolitan Police said they weren’t allowed. In doing so and trying to silence them; Reclaim These Streets fought them in the High Court for violating their human right to assemble, and won. Jamie speaks on becoming an accidental activist and using her media and events expertise to create a real impact. Her TEDx talk on How to Reclaim Your Life is here: https://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_klingler_reclaim_yourself_the_most_valuable_investment_you_ll_makeLinks Jamie: Website | Instagram | LinkedIn Nadia Nagamootoo: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Buy Beyond DiscomfortAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesProduced by Mauro Kenji Serra, Kenji Productions -
62. Why High Performers Still Don’t Feel Good Enough, with Starling 01.06.2026 47minIn this episode of Why Care?, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by pop artist, Starling, for a conversation about self-worth, invisible adversity, ageism, loneliness and the courage to become who you really are. Starling shares how childhood trauma, industry gatekeeping and years of being told she was not enough shaped her early story, and how inner work, nervous system awareness and radical self-belief helped her rebuild it. Together, they explore the pressures of image, success and social media, why so many people still feel lonely and not good enough, and what it means to create work that heals rather than simply performs. It is a conversation about confidence, human connection and choosing yourself, again and again.Key Takeaways:Invisible adversity shapes confidence just as deeply as more visible forms of discrimination or exclusion.You can build an identity that is both fully authentic and consciously created.Success, followers and public recognition do not automatically heal not-enoughness.Feeling safe in your body and nervous system changes the quality of your choices.Self-improvement becomes healthier when it comes from self-respect rather than self-rejection.Human connection remains one of the most powerful forms of healing. Guest BioStarling is a pop artist and speaker whose work sits at the intersection of music and personal transformation, a space her growing audience describes as “pop therapy”. Once told she could not sing, she has built her career by dismantling limitations and turning lived experience into songs about empowerment, resilience and possibility. Her music centres on one core idea: you are not what has happened to you, you are what you choose to become. Alongside millions of streams, major radio and press support, and sync placements including Love Island, Starling has also built a powerful platform around self-worth, creative empowerment and human connection, helping people rethink what they are capable of becoming.Links Starling: Website | Facebook| Instagram | Spotify | Apple Music Nadia Nagamootoo: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Buy Beyond DiscomfortAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesProduced by Mauro Kenji Serra, Kenji Productions -
61. Worthiness, Belonging, and Leadership with Nova Reid 11.05.2026 54minIn the first episode of Why Care? Season 7, Nadia Nagamootoo sits down with Nova Reid, founder, storyteller, and bestselling author of The Good Ally, for a conversation about worthiness, healing, history, and leadership. Nova explains why worthiness is not something we earn through achievement, but something many of us must practice intentionally after learning unworthiness early in life. Together, they explore how social programming shapes identity, belonging, and self-esteem, how assimilation and silence can become survival strategies, and why people-pleasing often leaves us exhausted, overextended, and disconnected from ourselves. They also unpack the deeper inner work behind leadership, the cost of telling only the stories systems find convenient, and why care must sit at the centre of culture, storytelling, and change.Key Takeaways:Worthiness is a lifelong practice, not a reward for productivity or performance.Bias and social programming begin early, long before children can fully understand the messages they absorb.Assimilation, silence, and overadaptation are often learned as safety strategies, especially across generations.People pleasing and overgiving can feel generous, but they can also drain us and prevent others from developing their own agency.Real culture change requires more than representation. It requires reckoning, care, and inner work.Guest BioNova Reid is a founder and visionary who cares deeply about healing and repair and uses the power of storytelling to help solve social justice issues. Often described as a force to be reckoned with, Nova’s work sits at the intersection of storytelling, mental health, and social justice. She is a renowned agent of change, winning multiple accolades for her work in racial justice spanning over a decade. She has performed on world class stages and written for major publications including The Guardian, Vogue and Elle Magazine - her cannon of work from her bestselling book The Good Ally - to Hidden Histories with Nova Reid is consistently described as life changing. LinksNova Reid: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Hidden Histories with Nova Reid | The Good AllyBook tickets to Nova’s one-woman show, Worthy on 23rd June 2026: https://www.novareid.com/worthyNadia Nagamootoo: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Buy Beyond DiscomfortAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesProduced by Mauro Kenji Serra, Kenji Productions -
Shame, Identity and the Right to Be Yourself | Why Care? Live in partnership with Athena Effect 29.03.2026 42minIn this special live episode of Why Care? Live, recorded at Dame Kelly Holmes’ Annual Women’s Celebration Event - Athena Effect, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by Linda Riley, Raga D’silva, and Vikki Feltham for a powerful conversation on identity, shame, visibility, and what it takes to live truthfully in a world shaped by expectations.Together, they explore the pressure to stay hidden, the cost of being judged by systems and society, and the courage it takes to reject shame and define yourself on your own terms. From activism and allyship to illness, recovery, and self-acceptance, each guest shares deeply personal reflections on being seen, being underestimated, and choosing authenticity anyway.This is a conversation about what happens when women stop shrinking, stop apologising, and start living fully as themselves.Key TakeawaysAuthenticity often comes with risk, but hiding can carry its own long-term cost. Raga speaks about years of living multiple identities before deciding she could no longer stay hidden.Shame begins to loosen when people reconnect with their own worth rather than external expectations. Vikki reflects on surviving cancer, rebuilding trust in her body, and no longer seeing herself as someone to hide.Allyship matters most when allies speak up, not just listen quietly. Linda makes a direct call for stronger ally support, especially when LGBTQIA+ communities are forced to defend themselves alone.Inclusion conversations become more powerful when they are open, human, and psychologically safe, which is exactly how Why Care? Live is positioned in the concept brochure.The closing message of the panel is simple and strong: listen without judgment, question your assumptions, and help shape change through everyday actions.Links- Nadia Nagamootoo: Official website | LinkedIn | Instagram- Avenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices- Athena Effect: Official website| Instagram- Dame Kelly Holmes: Official site | LinkedIn | Instagram- Linda Riley: Official website | LinkedIn | Instagram- Raga D'silva: Official website | LinkedIn- Vikki Feltham: LinkedIn | Instagram -
60. It’s Not Magic, with John Amaechi 19.01.2026 1h 4minIn the Season 6 finale of Why Care?, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by John Amaechi OBE, organisational psychologist and Founder of APS Intelligence, for a wide-ranging and deeply grounded conversation on leadership, power, and personal accountability.Drawing on behavioural science, coaching practice, and lived experience, John challenges the myth that great leadership is rooted in charisma or innate talent. Instead, he argues that leadership excellence is built from ordinary, learnable skills that require sustained effort, self-regulation, and ethical clarity.Together, they explore why some leaders seek titles without accepting responsibility, how personalised power corrupts leadership intent, and why culture often gives permission to harmful behaviour. John reflects on vulnerability, feedback, presence, and the energy required to lead well, as well as the danger of outsourcing accountability to systems, algorithms, or circumstance.This episode is a candid examination of leadership without shortcuts, grounded in evidence, human dignity, and the daily choices that shape organisational culture.Cover Photo: Courtesy of APS IntelligenceKey Takeaways:Leadership skill is learnable, not magicalWanting power is necessary, but how power is used defines leadership qualityAvoiding discomfort undermines organisational performanceAccountability cannot be outsourced to systems or contextEthical leadership requires sustained personal effortIndividual choices shape collective outcomesGuest BioJohn Amaechi OBE is a world-renowned organisational psychologist, bestselling author, and Professor of Leadership at the University of Exeter Business School. As the founder of APS Intelligence Ltd., John leads a global team that transforms leaders and cultures by combining cutting-edge behavioural science with psychological insight. His bespoke programmes aren’t about quick fixes, they drive sustainable growth, ethical leadership, and organisational well-being.From his roots in Stockport, near Manchester, to becoming the first Briton to play professional basketball in the NBA, John’s personal journey exemplifies resilience and ambition. Inspired by his mother’s words, “The most unlikely of people in the most improbable of circumstances can become extraordinary”, John has spent his career challenging expectations and helping others unlock their potential.An adviser to FTSE 100 boards, a LinkedIn Top Voice, and the recipient of the Sport Industry Integrity and Impact Award, John is recognised as one of the most influential voices in leadership and organisational culture. His bestselling book, The Promises of Giants, inspires leaders worldwide to embrace authenticity, drive ethical change, and create lasting legacies.LinksJohn Amaechi: LinkedIn | Instagram | Substack | TikTokBuy his books:- “It's Not Magic: The Ordinary Skills of Exceptional Leaders” - “The Promises of Giants”APS: Website | LinkedInNadia Nagamootoo: Website | LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices -
59. Parenting Out Loud with Elliott Rae 24.11.2025 1hIn this episode of Why Care?, Nadia Nagamootoo sits down with Elliott Rae, founder of Music Football Fatherhood, creator of the Parenting Out Loud movement and one of the UK’s leading voices on fatherhood, modern masculinity and men’s mental health. Elliott reflects on his decade of work shifting workplace culture for dads, from challenging stigma around flexible working to building systems that support equal parenting.Grounded in personal experience, including the trauma and transformation of early parenthood, Elliott explains why encouraging dads to speak up about their caregiving responsibilities is essential for gender equality, societal wellbeing and children’s development. His story blends purpose, vulnerability and activism, revealing how changing the way men parent can change the foundations of work and family life everywhere. Key Takeaways:Equal parenting is a system shift that reduces the motherhood penalty.Stigma, silence and old ideas of masculinity still block dads at work.Culture change requires leaders to understand the ‘why’ behind caring.Father involvement improves wellbeing for men, women and children.Proactive organisational messaging dramatically increases leave uptake.Guest BioElliott Rae is the founder of the parenting platform MusicFootballFatherhood, called the ‘Mumsnet for Dads’ by the BBC. He is the curator of the bestselling book, DAD, presenter of BBC One documentary ‘Becoming Dad’ and co-founder of the Working Dads Employer Awards. Elliott created the Parenting Out Loud campaign which supports employers to build workplace cultures where dads can be loud and proud about their caring responsibilities at work. Elliott is the ex-Head of DEI Delivery at HM Treasury and one of the UK’s most prominent speakers on fatherhood, men’s mental health and masculinity. He co-hosts the popular podcast, To Be A Boy, which is one of the top parenting podcasts in the UK and he has written for publications such as The Independent, The Telegraph and Grazia and frequently appears across the media, including a feature on Loose Women and regular contributions to Radio 5 Live and BBC Radio London. Elliott was recently awarded an MBE and his work on gender equality has been recognised by the United Nations and he was awarded the #HeForShe award by UN Women UK.In 2025, Elliott created and hosted the world’s first Working Dad’s Summit.LinksElliott Rae: Instagram| LinkedIn | WebsiteParenting Out Loud: https://elliottrae.com/parentingoutloud/Music Football Fatherhood: https://www.musicfootballfatherhood.comNadia Nagamootoo: Website | LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices -
58. Fixing The Foundations with Kat Parsons 03.11.2025 53minIn this episode of Why Care?, host Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by Kat Parsons, Group Head of Diversity & Inclusion at Centrica and co-founder of the All Female Design & Build Project, which she launched in 2023 with her wife. Kat reflects on her career across male-dominated industries, her passion for fairness and justice, and her drive to transform workplace cultures through empathy and education. She shares how her lived experiences as a lesbian, wife, and mother have shaped her approach to leadership, and why psychological safety and authenticity are central to inclusion.Recently named Head of DEI of the Year and Inspirational Role Model of the Year at the British Diversity Awards 2025, Kat also discusses the importance of representation, being a visible LGBTQ+ role model, and the power of breaking barriers in construction and beyond. Her story is one of resilience, courage, and leadership that inspires change across industries and cultures.Key Takeaways:True inclusion requires systemic cultural change, not token gestures.Representation and visibility of role models are crucial to inspire others.Psychological safety is a cornerstone of thriving, inclusive workplaces.Human-centric leadership, built on empathy, fairness, and storytelling, creates lasting impact.Breaking barriers in male-dominated industries takes resilience and vision, but also sparks progress for future generations.Highlights:Kat’s journey from construction and oil & gas into DEI leadership at Centrica.Founding the All Female Design & Build Project with her wife to advance gender equity.The importance of psychological safety and empathy in workplace culture.Experiences navigating biases, stereotypes, and microaggressions in male-dominated environments.Her role as a visible LGBTQ+ role model, inspiring courage and authenticity.Redefining leadership as unapologetic, human-centric, and values-driven.Guest BioKat Parsons is Group Head of Diversity & Inclusion at Centrica and Co-founder of the All Female Design & Build Project, which she set up in 2023 together with her wife. A Fellow of the Leadership Society, she is a multi-award-winning leader, recently named Head of DEI of the Year and Inspirational Role Model of the Year at the British Diversity Awards 2025. Kat champions human-centric leadership, underpinned by empathy, education, and storytelling, to create inclusive cultures where people thrive. In particular, she is an LGBTQ+ role model, having been named in the Power Pride List and British LGBT Awards’ Top 10 Diversity Trailblazers. By being a visible and vocal advocate, Kat inspires others to be more courageous and confident in embracing their identities. Beyond corporate leadership, her work with the All Female Design & Build Project highlights her passion for breaking barriers and advancing gender equity in traditionally male-dominated sectors.LinksKat Parsons : LinkedIn | InstagramAll Female Design & Build Project: https://www.all-female-build.co.uk/Nadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesPurchase Beyond Discomfort using the discount code shared in the episode: https://practicalinspiration.com/book/beyond-discomfort -
57. Living with Hearing Loss & Deafness with Samantha Baines 13.10.2025 1h 2minIn this episode of Why Care?, host Nadia Nagamootoo speaks with comedian, author, and actor Samantha Baines. Samantha shares her journey of discovering she has hearing loss in her late twenties, embracing her deaf identity, and advocating for better access and representation in the arts. She discusses her books, her experiences navigating comedy and acting with deafness, and the importance of language in shaping identity. Samantha also reflects on finding out she has ADHD, barriers faced by women in comedy, and why inclusion and access coordinators are essential to transforming creative industries. A funny, honest, and thought-provoking conversation that blends advocacy, creativity, and resilience.Key TakeawaysIdentity and language matter: shifting from “sufferer” to proud deaf representation challenges stigma.Access coordinators and inclusive practices create equal opportunities in creative industries.Women and neurodiverse people face systemic barriers in comedy and the arts that must be addressed.Comedy and writing can be powerful tools for advocacy, inclusion, and representation.Embracing diagnoses like deafness and ADHD can empower self-understanding and drive change.HighlightsSamantha’s journey to discovering and embracing her deaf identity.The role of language in shaping perceptions of deafness and disability.Barriers and gender imbalance in the comedy industry.How access coordinators can transform inclusion in the arts.Samantha’s experience of being diagnosed with ADHD and its impact.Using comedy, books, and acting to challenge stereotypes and build representation.Guest BioSamantha Baines is a multi award-winning comedian, actress, broadcaster and best selling author. She presents for The One Show, BBC Morning Live, Rip Off Britain, BBC Radio London and hosts the smash hit podcast The Divorce Social (half a million downloads). You may recognise her from acting roles in Netflix’s The Crown, Romesh Ranganathan's Avoidance, Call the Midwife, Silent Witness and Magic Mike Live (directed by Channing Tatum). As a hearing aid wearer herself, she is ambassador for the Royal National Institute for Deaf People and the author of critically acclaimed children's books with deaf main characters, as well as the best-selling non-fiction book Living With Hearing Loss and Deafness. She is a BAFTA member, NSPCC Campaigner and a regular on national radio stations.LinksSamantha Baines : Instagram | FB | X | TikTok | Baines London: Instagram | Etsy ShopNadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesPurchase Beyond Discomfort using the discount code shared in the episode: https://practicalinspiration.com/book/beyond-discomfort -
56. Take It & Own It - Redefining Women’s Power with Geeta Sidhu-Robb 22.09.2025 51minIn this episode of Why Care?, host Nadia Nagamootoo speaks with Geeta Sidhu-Robb, award-winning entrepreneur, political candidate, and the visionary founder of W Corp. Geeta shares her extraordinary journey from law and politics to building safer, more inclusive workplaces for women across the globe. She discusses launching W Corp at the United Nations, challenging CEOs with the Return on Investment of diversity, and her mission to reshape power structures for women leaders. Geeta also reflects on her Sikh upbringing, early experiences with racism, her resilience through having no money, and how she redefined her identity and leadership. A bold, honest, and empowering conversation on power, purpose, and creating change.Key Takeaways:Women’s safety and inclusion in workplaces must be measurable and actionable, not tokenistic.Framing diversity through Return on Investment makes it harder for organizations to ignore.Resilience and self-reinvention are vital when navigating personal and professional adversity.Women must reject the pressure of likeability and embrace unapologetic leadership.Building ecosystems - from politics to entrepreneurship - is essential to lasting systemic change.Highlights:Geeta’s journey from law and politics to entrepreneurship and activism.Founding W Corp to certify and improve workplace safety and inclusion for women.Launching at the UN and challenging global leaders on accountability.Redefining power and leadership as unapologetically feminine and strong.Creating ecosystems like the Green Flag movement to fund women entrepreneurs.The personal resilience story behind her public voice and mission.Guest BioGeeta Sidhu-Robb is an award-winning entrepreneur, health coach, and activist, recognized with multiple "Entrepreneur and Businesswoman of the Year" awards, and recent accolades like "Disruptor of the Year" and "Most Inspiring Women's Workplace Equity Advocate 2025." She founded Nosh Detox in 2008 due to her son's severe food allergies and has since built a strong reputation in the health and nutrition industry, with clients including Gwyneth Paltrow and Sarah Ferguson.Originally a lawyer, she retrained as a health and wellness coach in 2014, working with high-profile women to achieve career and personal success. She recently launched The Womanist Movement, which includes WCorp, a B2B initiative to certify women-supportive workplaces, and WComm, a global B2C online community for women.Geeta is also an activist, having been involved with Open Britain against Brexit, and serves on the boards of the Microloan Foundation and Sarah's Trust. She previously chaired Montessori Global, focusing on education for refugee children. A sought-after media expert, her motto is, "Anything is possible. If you can see it, you can do it; if you can dream it, you can make it happen."LinksGeeta Sidhu-Robb: Website | Podcast | Instagram | LinkedIn | FBNadia Nagamootoo: Website | LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices -
55. Include, Rise then Glaze with Ryan Panchoo 01.09.2025 49minIn this episode of Why Care?, host Nadia Nagamootoo speaks with Ryan Panchoo, the Founder of Borough 22, a pioneering doughnut brand built on the principles of inclusion, representation and authenticity. From his early days balancing family needs with business ambitions to breaking into iconic retailers like Selfridges, Ryan shares his inspiring journey of resilience and innovation. He discusses why designing for the minority is true inclusion, how visibility matters as a Black Founder, and his mission to redefine what’s possible in the food industry. With reflections on representation, expansion, and creating treats everyone can enjoy, Ryan’s story is both uplifting and thought-provoking.Key TakeawaysBuilding with inclusion at the core creates lasting impact and opportunity.Representation matters: visibility of minority founders inspires change and belonging.Challenges in food and retail industries can become stepping stones to innovation.Mentorship, resilience, and authenticity are vital in sustaining entrepreneurial growth.Inclusion is not just social good, but a smart and future-facing business strategy.HighlightsRyan’s journey from bricklaying to becoming a celebrated food entrepreneur.Founding Borough 22 to create inclusive doughnuts that everyone can enjoy.Breaking into Selfridges and proving the demand for gluten-free and vegan products.Reflections on the lack of representation in food entrepreneurship and his decision to be visible.Expanding Borough 22 globally, from Qatar to the United States.Why true inclusion means designing products with the minority in mind.Guest BioRyan Panchoo is the Founder of Borough 22, a pioneering free-from doughnut brand that has transformed the UK’s perception of gluten-free and vegan indulgence. Originally developed in his home kitchen for his children with multiple allergies, Ryan has built Borough 22 into a category-defining business that’s now stocked in Selfridges, ships nationwide, and appears regularly at high-profile pop-ups and festivals.A self-taught baker turned entrepreneur, Ryan has consistently pushed boundaries in the free-from space, blending product innovation, brand storytelling, and strategic growth to carve out a loyal and ever-growing customer base. His leadership has seen Borough 22 featured in major media publications including Vogue, GQ, and The Guardian, whilst also attracting retail partnerships and expansion opportunities across the UK and beyond.As a Black founder in the food and beverage space, Ryan is a vocal advocate for representation, inclusion, and building businesses with purpose. With a sharp eye for market trends and a deep connection to his brand’s mission, he continues to redefine what it means to be a challenger brand in today’s food landscape.LinksRyan Panchoo : Website | Instagram | TikTokNadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesPurchase Beyond Discomfort using the discount code shared in the episode: https://practicalinspiration.com/book/beyond-discomfort -
54. Menopause and Movement with Lavina Mehta 14.07.2025 46minIn this inspirational episode, Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by Lavina Mehta MBE, wellness coach, TEDx speaker, and Founder of Feel Good with Lavina. Lavina passionately discusses her journey of normalising menopause conversations, especially within South Asian communities, and her commitment to promoting accessible health through her innovative ‘exercise snacking’ concept. From celebrating menopause publicly as a positive milestone to addressing workplace awareness, Lavina candidly shares her personal and professional experiences. The conversation also explores her groundbreaking work in making fitness inclusive, breaking cultural taboos, and empowering women to prioritise their health through practical lifestyle changes.Key TakeawaysMenopause should be celebrated as a positive milestone to reduce stigma.The importance of creating a supportive environment in workplaces for women experiencing menopause.Accessible exercise methods like ‘exercise snacking’ can significantly improve overall health.Cultural taboos in South Asian communities need addressing through open conversations and education.Midlife can be a period of reinvention and empowerment, both personally and professionally.HighlightsThe importance of openly celebrating menopause as demonstrated by Lavina’s public menopause party.How Lavina addresses cultural barriers and taboos within South Asian communities about women's health.Lavina’s practical approach to fitness through ‘exercise snacking’, enabling manageable daily activity.Insights into the benefits of strength training, particularly during menopause.Advice to workplaces on supporting women through menopause with awareness and practical initiatives.Guest BioLavina Mehta MBE, Founder of Feel Good With Lavina, is a 46-year-old personal trainer, bestselling author, wellness coach, TEDx speaker and mum to three. Lavina was awarded an MBE for services to health and fitness during Covid-19. Her mission is to help all ages (up to 100) feel good physically, mentally and reduce risks of common chronic diseases through her concept of ‘exercise snacking’ and free desk/chair workouts (as seen on TV & Radio with her 76 year old Mother in Law). Her slogan is to “Exercise for Sanity not Vanity®.”Lavina is a Patron of the Menopause Mandate. Lavina is a proud Ambassador for Diabetes UK, Wellbeing of Women and Alzheimer’s Society, as well as supporting many charities. She regularly runs workplace wellness workshops, menopause talks, exercise snacking workshops, keynotes and features regularly in press and podcasts.She has been sharing her own perimenopause and menopause journey on social media and press to help normalise the conversation, especially in the workplace and in the South Asian community where many women are suffering in silence. She wants to break the taboos, raise awareness, change the narrative and help women feel empowered to find solutions, aswell as educating the men around us.Lavina’s bestselling book, The Feel Good Fix: Boost Energy, Improve Sleep and Move More through Menopause and Beyond, published by Penguin Life is designed to improve your health in perimenopause, menopause and beyond, offering quick, fun, science-backed, bite-size exercise snacks. LinksLavina Mehta : Website | Instagram | FB | YoutubeLavina’s book: The Feel Good Fix https://amzn.eu/d/8bBeDWkNadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesPurchase Beyond Discomfort using the discount code shared in the episode: https://practicalinspiration.com/book/beyond-discomfort -
53. Permissible Beauty with Robert Taylor 23.06.2025 55minIn this compelling episode, host Nadia Nagamootoo speaks with renowned photographer, Robert Taylor. Robert discusses his impactful journey from the RAF to becoming an acclaimed artist whose work champions black queer visibility and diversity. Robert shares insights about his pioneering, powerful project, "Permissible Beauty," exhibited at Hampton Court Palace, which creatively explored Black queer representation and challenged traditional beauty standards. Delving deeply into topics such as British identity, the transformative potential of art, and his contributions to LGBTQ+ advocacy and women’s visibility in STEM and academe, Robert's story highlights the power of authenticity, courage, and creative expression in challenging societal norms and fostering inclusion.Key TakeawaysArt can challenge traditional standards of beauty and identity, making space for diverse representation.Visibility and representation of marginalised groups in heritage spaces can profoundly impact audience perceptions and foster deeper understanding.Creating dialogue and opening spaces for previously unheard voices requires courage, intentionality, and a willingness to embrace vulnerability.Personal experiences deeply inform artistic expression, leading to transformative social impact.Intersectionality and personal identity are crucial in navigating and reshaping societal narratives.Active allyship and institutional support are essential in successfully advancing diversity and inclusion projects.Highlights Robert's journey from RAF serviceman to prominent photographer, illustrating diverse pathways to creative expression.The Permissible Beauty project at Hampton Court Palace and its groundbreaking portrayal of black queer narratives.Exploring Britishness and navigating personal identity within predominantly white and traditional spaces.The significant role of chosen families in the queer community, illustrated through the "Four-Sided Triangle" project.Capturing portraits of pioneering women for major institutions like the National Portrait Gallery and Oxbridge colleges, showcasing women’s achievements in STEM and academe.Robert’s reflections on challenging conventional perceptions of beauty, success, and representation in contemporary art and culture.Guest BioRobert came to photography via the RAF, The Bar, and publishing. His work is held in collections including the NPG, the V&A, and numerous Oxbridge colleges. His work ranges from commercial portraiture to art projects. His many contributions to HIV prevention include a major safer sex education book with Peter Tatchell. Robert has dedicated time to commissioned collections of portraits of women of outstanding achievement in STEM and academe. A 2023 project at Hampton Court Palace explored notions of beauty, from eight black queer perspectives: https://permissiblebeauty.le.ac.uk/.Other interests include offender rehabilitation through the arts, clothing, and jewellery for men.LinksRobert Taylor: Website | InstagramNadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices -
52. From Olympics to Advocacy with Montell Douglas 02.06.2025 52minIn this episode of Why Care?, host Nadia Nagamootoo sits down with the extraordinary Montell Douglas, a groundbreaking athlete known for her historic achievements as the UK's first woman to compete in both Summer and Winter Olympic Games. Montell shares her inspiring story of overcoming barriers, redefining success, and advocating passionately for equitable access to physical activity. She dives deep into issues of representation, resilience, and why she continuously pushes herself out of her comfort-zone, including her recent role as ‘Fire’ in BBC's Gladiators and as a 2024 contestant on Strictly Come Dancing. Montell’s honest reflections highlight the power of sport to drive meaningful societal change.Key TakeawaysMontell’s story emphasizes the importance of representation, breaking barriers, and perseverance through adversity.Advocating for equitable access to sport can help address broader societal inequalities.Physical activity isn't just about elite performance; it's essential for community wellbeing and inclusion.Overcoming stereotypes requires continuous courage and the willingness to challenge the status quo.Personal resilience comes from embracing challenges, learning from failure, and never settling for comfort-zones.Recognising that disparities persist in sports, reflecting deeper societal biases related to race, gender, and physicality.Highlights:Montell Douglas’s Journey: From record-breaking sprinter to Winter Olympian and an advocate for physical health and inclusion.Challenging Inequities in Sport: Montell discusses her role as London's first Sport Ambassador and the systemic issues she's addressing.Early Lessons in Resilience: How Montell’s upbringing instilled in her a deep-rooted determination and fearlessness.Strictly Come Dancing: Montell opens up about the behind-the-scenes dynamics, representation issues, and the realities of competition.The Realities of Representation: Montell candidly addresses the challenges of navigating the public eye as a Black female athlete.Empowering Through Advocacy: Montell shares how her diverse roles and campaigns aim to inspire positive change and increased access to sport.Guest BioMontell Douglas is a pioneering athlete who made history as the first British woman to compete in both Summer and Winter Olympic Games. She is a Commonwealth Gold Medalist, former British 100-metre record holder, and is known for her role as ‘Fire’ in BBC One’s Gladiators and as a contestant on Strictly Come Dancing. Beyond athletics, Montell passionately advocates for diversity, inclusion, and health awareness, working closely with organizations like Bupa Health Clinic and London Sport. She is London's first-ever Sport Ambassador, dedicated to ensuring equitable access to physical activity and inspiring communities to embrace active, healthy lifestyles.LinksMontell Douglas: Instagram | LinkedIn | XNadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservicesPurchase Beyond Discomfort using the discount code shared in the episode: https://practicalinspiration.com/book/beyond-discomfort -
51. Pursuing Positive Impact with Christopher Kenna 13.05.2025 51minIn this new episode of Why Care?, starting Season 6, Nadia Nagamootoo talks with Christopher Kenna, CEO and founder of Diversity Media Inc. and Media Stream AI. Christopher shares his inspiring journey from a challenging childhood and life in the British Army to becoming a pioneering entrepreneur focused on diversity and inclusion. Learn how Chris uses AI to create personalised and inclusive media, why authentic representation matters deeply to him, and his vision for a more equitable media landscape. He also shares his challenging upbringing, navigating personal threats, and the relentless pursuit of positive impact through innovation.Key TakeawaysDiversity and inclusion must be foundational values, not superficial initiatives.True leadership involves actively dismantling systemic barriers.Entrepreneurial success requires balancing passion, resilience, and the courage to face adversity.Real activism goes beyond performative gestures—it's everyday actions that create change.Leveraging privilege to uplift underrepresented voices is essential for lasting societal impact.Highlights:Christopher's Journey – From Adversity to Activism: Christopher shares his remarkable story, overcoming a difficult childhood and then entering military life to become a powerful advocate for diversity and inclusion in the media and tech industry.Leveraging AI for Real Inclusion: Discover how Christopher uses innovative AI technology to create personalised media that authentically represents diverse communities, revolutionising viewer engagement.True Leadership in DEI: Christopher highlights the importance of genuine leadership commitment to dismantling systemic barriers and why superficial approaches to diversity are insufficient.Representation Beyond the Surface: Explore Christopher’s perspective on why true diversity involves more than token gestures, emphasising authentic storytelling and representation at every level.Balancing Entrepreneurship and Advocacy: Gain insights into how Christopher navigates the challenges of entrepreneurship, including facing personal threats, to pursue meaningful change through his ventures.Practical Activism through Daily Actions: Christopher explains how real activism isn't just about grand gestures but is demonstrated through consistent, everyday actions that leverage privilege for positive societal impact.Guest BioChristopher Kenna is the award-winning CEO and founder of Diversity Media Inc. and Media Stream AI, leading innovative platforms that amplify diverse voices and deliver personalized media experiences. He is an award-winning entrepreneur, having received the Innovator of the Year Award at the second annual Ex-Forces in Business Awards, been in the British LGBT Awards top 10 3x times, named on EMPower’s 100 Ethnic Minority Executives 2020 and OUTstanding top 100 LGBT Executives and in the top 20 of the Top 100 Marketing Influencers in the Technology for Marketing Index 2023.LinksChris Kenna Socials: Instagram | LinkedIn Generation Black TV: Website | InstagramNadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices -
Special Episode: Smarter in Seconds with Blair Imani 13.02.2025 48minIn this special episode of Why Care?, host Nadia Nagamootoo sits down with Blair Imani, historian, educator, and author of Read This to Get Smarter. Known for her viral Smarter in Seconds series, Blair breaks down complex topics in an accessible and engaging way. In this conversation, Blair shares her journey as an advocate, the role of education in driving change, and the importance of challenging misinformation. She also discusses her experiences in activism, the impact of storytelling on social justice, and how we can all contribute to making the world more inclusive.Key TakeawaysEducation is a powerful tool for dismantling bias and promoting social justice.Smarter in Seconds demonstrates how breaking down complex topics can make learning accessible to all.Understanding history and systemic injustices is essential to creating meaningful change.Allyship requires more than just words—it demands action and accountability.True allyship involves continuous learning, amplifying marginalized voices, and taking action to support communities.Challenging misinformation and recognizing privilege are crucial steps toward fostering an inclusive society.Highlights:Blair’s Journey to Activism –From being arrested during a protest to becoming a globally recognized educator, Blair shares the pivotal moments that shaped her career.Making Complex Topics Accessible – Blair explains the philosophy behindSmarter in Seconds and why bite-sized education is essential in today’s digital world.Challenging Myths and Misinformation –Blair discusses how she debunks historical and cultural misconceptions, such as the real origins of Thanksgiving.The Power of Identity and Intersectionality –Blair reflects on how race, gender, and faith have shaped her advocacy and storytelling.What It Means to be an Ally –Blair shares practical ways to support marginalized communities beyond performative allyship.Education as a Tool for Change –Blair highlights how knowledge can be a powerful driver for equity and justice in both social and political spaces.Guest BioBlair Imani is a historian, educator, and social justice advocate known for making education accessible through her viral Smarter in Seconds series. She is the author of Read This to Get Smarter, Modern HER story, and Making Our Way Home, books that explore history, identity, and activism. A sought-after speaker, Blair has collaborated with institutions like Sephora, Meta, and Adobe and has interviewed icons like Jane Fonda and Gloria Steinem. Through her work, Blair continues to inspire critical thinking, inclusion, and positive change.LinksBlair’s Website: https://www.blairimani.com/Blair’s Book: Read This to Get SmarterBlair’s Socials:LinkedIn | Instagram |You Tube |TikTokNadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | InstagramAvenir Consulting:https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices -
50. Murder Most Unladylike: Breaking Barriers in Children’s Literature with Robin Stevens 22.01.2025 53minIn this season finale of Why Care?, host Nadia Nagamootoo is joined by bestselling children’s author Robin Stevens, best known for the internationally renowned Murder Most Unladylike series, to explore how literature can shape young minds and create lasting change. Robin shares her journey as an author, the personal experiences that influence her writing, and how her neurodivergence, identity, and lived experiences have shaped the stories she tells. They discuss the importance of representation in children’s books, the impact of subtle acts of exclusion, and how stories can help young readers navigate diversity, identity, and belonging. This episode is an inspiring look at how books can spark meaningful conversations and challenge the status quo. Key Takeaways Children’s books have the power to shape young minds, foster empathy, and challenge stereotypes. Diverse representation in literature helps young readers see themselves and others in a more inclusive way. The power of storytelling can influence how children perceive identity, belonging, and fairness in the world around them. Neurodivergence and lived experiences shape creative expression in profound ways. Robin’s writing reflects her unique perspective as a neurodivergent person, using storytelling as a way to process emotions and understand human interactions. By embracing her identity, Robin creates stories that not only entertain but also educate and inspire conversations around inclusion. Highlights: Robin’s Path to Becoming a Writer – From storytelling as a child to becoming an internationally acclaimed author, Robin shares how her early experiences shaped her passion for writing. Neurodivergence and Storytelling – Robin reflects on how her autism diagnosis has influenced her approach to writing, processing emotions, and understanding the world. Diversity and Representation in Books – Robin discusses the importance of creating characters that reflect a wide range of backgrounds, identities, and lived experiences. Challenging the British Boarding School Narrative – Robin’s books disrupt the overwhelmingly white, privileged image of boarding schools by introducing characters who mirror real-life diversity and challenge to fit in. Raising Awareness of Subtle Acts of Exclusion – Robin highlights the importance of showcasing microaggressions in her stories to help young readers recognise and address them. Bringing Queer Representation to Children’s Books – Robin shares her experience of writing LGBTQ+ characters, the challenges she faced, and the positive impact of queer representation in children’s literature. Guest Bio Robin Stevens is an award-winning author best known for her Murder Most Unladylike series, which blends classic murder mystery with a modern approach to diversity and representation. As someone who identifies with multiple underrepresented communities, Robin skilfully weaves themes of identity, belonging, and social justice into her books. With a deep passion for making literature more inclusive, Robin’s work has had a lasting impact on young readers and the publishing industry. Links Robin Stevens’ Website & Books: https://robin-stevens.co.uk/all-books/ Robin Stevens Socials: Instagram | Youtube | TikTok Nadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | Instagram Avenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices -
49. Food, Family, and Leadership Lessons with Shelina Permalloo & Pamela Permalloo Bass 09.01.2025 50minIn this episode of Why Care?, host, Nadia Nagamootoo, has an inspiring conversation with the Permalloo Sisters - Shelina Permalloo, MasterChef winner and celebrated chef, and Pamela Permalloo Bass, a diversity, equity, and inclusion expert with extensive experience in the NHS. Together, they share stories of their Mauritian heritage, navigating identity as British Mauritian women, and breaking barriers in their respective industries. From exploring the richness of Mauritian cuisine to advocating for inclusion in the workplace, this episode is a heartfelt exploration of family, culture, and leadership.Key TakeawaysCultural heritage can be a source of strength and connection in navigating personal and professional challenges. Shelina and Pamela’s stories showcase how embracing heritage can drive creativity, resilience and a sense of purpose. Food and hospitality serve as powerful tools for preserving culture and fostering community.Breaking barriers requires persistence, leadership and a commitment to inclusion. Pamela emphasises the need for inclusive leadership to address systemic inequities and create meaningful change in organisations. The Permalloo sisters highlight the importance of pushing boundaries and creating opportunities for others, paving the way for future generations.Highlights: Growing Up as a Mauritian in the UK: Shelina and Pamela discuss their upbringing, family dynamics, and the influence of their Mauritian heritage on their identities. Breaking Cultural Stereotypes: Pamela reflects on challenging traditional gender roles and cultural expectations, while Shelina shares her journey to embracing her heritage through food. Advocating for Inclusion: Pamela highlights the importance of addressing systemic inequities in the NHS and fostering cultural awareness in leadership. The Power of Food and Hospitality: Shelina describes how Mauritian cuisine connects people and celebrates diversity, becoming her way of preserving and sharing her roots. Resilience and Leadership: The Permalloo sisters explore the importance of resilience, challenging the status quo, and leading with purpose in their fields. The Reality of Success: Shelina shares the duality of her success, from celebrating Mauritian culture through food to facing criticism and navigating her unique position as a visible figure.Guest BioShelina Permalloo is an award-winning chef, author, and winner of MasterChef 2012. Known for her passion for Mauritian cuisine, Shelina uses food as a way to celebrate her heritage and connect people. She has published two cookbooks and runs culinary workshops whilst championing diversity in the food industry.Pamela Permalloo Bass is a diversity, equity, and inclusion expert with over 30 years of experience in the public sector, including extensive work in the NHS. A dedicated advocate for cultural awareness and equity in leadership, Pamela works to create lasting, systemic change in organisations.Links Shelina’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shelinacooks/?hl=en Shelina’s First Book - “Sunshine on a Plate” Shelina’s Second Book - “The Sunshine Diet” NHS Workforce Race Equality Standard 2023: https://www.england.nhs.uk/publication/nhs-workforce-race-equality-standard-2023-data-analysis-report-for-nhs-trusts/ Roger Kline (August 2015): Beyond the Snowy White Peaks of the NHS Report Roger Kline & Joy Warmington (January 2024): Too Hot to Handle Report Pamela’s Website: https://www.pamelapermalloobass.com/ Pamela’s LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/pamela-permalloo-bass-50749534 Nadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | Instagram Avenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices -
48. Beneath the Surface with Michael Gunning 25.11.2024 36minIn this episode of Why Care?, host Nadia Nagamootoo speaks with Michael Gunning, an elite swimmer and trailblazer for diversity and inclusion in sport. Michael shares his incredible journey from becoming one of the few Black swimmers to compete internationally, to using his platform to advocate for LGBTQ+ representation and equality. He opens up about navigating labels, breaking barriers, and the importance of representation in sports and beyond. Michael also discusses his recent projects, including the Swim United campaign, his work with Pride House, and his new, groundbreaking TV series, Beneath the Surface. This conversation clearly demonstrates his resilience, purpose, and the power of sport to drive societal change. Key Takeaways Michael’s story highlights the importance of representation, resilience, and breaking barriers in sports. From being one of the few Black swimmers in elite competitions to coming out as gay, Michael has faced and overcome numerous societal and personal challenges. His work inspires others to embrace their identity and break stereotypes, showcasing that sport is for everyone. Advocating for inclusion requires persistence, education, and collective action. Michael’s initiatives, such as Swim United and Pride House, demonstrate how accessibility and safe spaces can transform lives. His journey emphasises the importance of creating platforms where diverse voices can be heard and celebrated. Highlights: Michael’s Journey: From learning to swim at the age of four to becoming an elite international swimmer, Michael shares the challenges and triumphs of his unique path in sport. Navigating Labels: Michael opens up about the frustrations of being labelled as a "Black gay swimmer" and how he has worked to redefine these narratives, focusing on his achievements rather than societal stereotypes. Representation Matters: Michael discusses the importance of diversity in sport and how seeing someone who looks like you in elite competitions can inspire the next generation. Advocating for Inclusion: Learn about Michael’s work with Swim United and Pride House, initiatives designed to make swimming accessible and create safe spaces for LGBTQ+ athletes and fans. Breaking Stereotypes: Michael shares how he uses his platform to challenge the misconceptions around swimming and identity, proving that sport is for everyone. Life Beyond the Pool: From hosting his TV series Beneath the Surface to championing equity in sports, Michael highlights how he continues to make an impact beyond competitive swimming. Links Michael Gunning: LinkedIn | Website Beneath the Surface on Sky Sports: Michael Gunning meets Jake Daniels Nadia Nagamootoo: LinkedIn | Instagram Avenir Consulting: https://linktr.ee/avenirconsultingservices
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