The Business

John Carney on pop stars, movie stars, and Power Ballad 26.06.2026 30мин

Kim Masters talks to John Carney, who after his 2006 indie breakout film Once, has made a career of making movies about musicians making music. Generally, the ones who never got famous. His new film, Power Ballad, stars Paul Rudd as a wedding singer alongside Nick Jonas, who plays a flawed former pop star. Carney discusses his struggles to raise money for his films, and reveals what he says to - or maybe shouts at -  buskers in Dublin who have their amps cranked up to 11.   Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni discuss why Amazon dropped out of distributing Artificial, a movie critical of Open AI. Although initial reactions to a cut of it have been lukewarm, there may be other reasons why Amazon pulled out.  

David Koepp on trying to ‘not screw up’ Disclosure Day 19.06.2026 30мин

Kim Masters talks to screenwriter David Koepp about Disclosure Day, his latest collaboration with director Steven Spielberg. After Spielberg sent Koepp a 40 page treatment for the movie, which Koepp gave notes on, Spielberg emailed him back that “it’s your problem now.” Koepp also reveals the downside of his early success, which included writing the Jurassic Park screenplay when he was just 29. He also explains why he’s not that scared AI will replace him, and offers his very dark pitch for one final Tom Cruise-led Mission Impossible movie (Koepp wrote the original 1996 release).    Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni discuss Fox Corp’s acquisition of the streaming company Roku. Roku is used by over a 100 million people, giving Fox access to countless homes, and a lot of consumer data.  

Former FTC Commissioner wants to stop the Paramount-Warner merger 12.06.2026 30мин

This week, Kim Masters talks to Alvaro Bedoya, a former FTC Commissioner, about why he objects to the Paramount-Warner Brothers merger. Bedoya says it will mean fewer jobs, higher subscription fees for consumers, and more censorship when the Ellison family - who own Paramount Skydance - control both CBS News and CNN. Bedoya also addresses a surprising accusation from Paramount’s Chief Counsel against some who oppose the merger.  [Editor’s note: this episode first aired before the Department of Justice announced on Friday afternoon that they would not challenge the Paramount-Warner merger.] Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni discuss the box office prospects for Steven Spielberg’s new movie Disclosure Day. Can the director, who popularized the summer blockbuster, still bring people out to the theaters?      

Eric Kripke responds to critics of the ‘The Boys’ finale 05.06.2026 30мин

This week, Eric Deggans talks to Eric Kripke, creator of the Amazon Prime series The Boys, about criticism of the show’s final season. Elon Musk went online to trash the finale of the politically provocative superhero satire, and some of the show’s less wealthy fans also didn’t care for it either. Kripke also talks about how The Boys managed to be pretty prescient about the current state of the country, and whether the franchise–with its multiple spinoffs–is actually becoming like the superhero genre it mocks.  Plus, Kim Masters and Matt Belloni discuss the firing of CBS’ 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley. The duo also discuss the success of the movie Backrooms, and how it made its leap from YouTube to the big screen.

Jack Thorne on ‘Adolescence,’ ‘Lord of the Flies,’ and his autism 29.05.2026 30мин

This week, Kim Masters talks to Jack Thorne, who won all the prizes for writing the Netflix series Adolescence, about his new series, an adaptation of the novel Lord of the Flies. They also discuss how Adolescence revealed Netflix’s stunning global reach, and why series star Stephen Graham has a co-writing credit, even though Graham doesn’t actually write. Thorne also tells Kim about being diagnosed as autistic in his mid-40s. Plus, Kim and Matt Belloni discuss the major shakeup at CBS’ 60 Minutes. Bari Weiss, the controversial head of the network’s news division, fired two correspondents and other staff, and hired someone with no broadcast news experience to run the vaunted show.

Courtney Kemp on Netflix series ‘Nemesis’ and diversity in Hollywood 22.05.2026 30мин

This week, Eric Deggans talks to Courtney Kemp, co-creator of the Netflix crime drama Nemesis, about the changing TV landscape, and whether she sees Hollywood standing by diversity initiatives despite the pushback from the Trump administration. She also explains how some executives who give her notes don’t necessarily grasp what matters to her audience. After signing an overall deal with Netflix in 2021, Kemp developed Nemesis, a Los Angeles-set crime story built around ambition, class, and power.  [Editor’s note: this segment was taped before it was announced that Kemp had signed an overall deal with Apple TV, and did not renew her deal with Netflix.] Plus, host Kim Masters and Matt Belloni discuss the end of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, the penultimate episode of which included a jab by Bruce Springsteen directed at Larry and David Ellison. The duo also assess the latest Star Wars release - The Mandalorian and Grogu. Disney has a lot riding on whether the franchise can successfuly turn a popular TV series into a box office hit. [Editor’s note: this segment was taped before the final episode of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert aired.]

William Shatner & Neil deGrasse Tyson think ‘The Universe is Absurd’ (Part Two) 15.05.2026 30мин

Kim Masters wraps up her two-part conversation with legendary actor William Shatner and famed astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson. Shatner reflects on his deeply emotional journey to space at age 90 and Tyson shares why he isn’t picky about the show biz gigs he takes. The pair also reflect on technological disruption, including how the rise of AI inspired Shatner to record a heavy metal album about the Industrial Revolution. Their two-night live event, The Universe is Absurd, will be at The Saban Theatre May 19-20.  Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni break down the strength of the new AI protections outlined in the recently finalized four-year agreement between SAG-AFTRA and the studios. They also discuss Disney’s awkward upfronts pitch, and Netflix’s continued expansion into live sports and events.

William Shatner & Neil deGrasse Tyson think ‘The Universe is Absurd’ 08.05.2026 30мин

This week, Kim Masters speaks with legendary actor William Shatner and famed astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson about their upcoming two-night live event, The Universe is Absurd. In the first installment of a sprawling two-part conversation, the pair reflect on how syndication helped solidify Star Trek as a cultural phenomenon, why studio executives don’t know what they’re doing, and they wrestle over the universe’s biggest questions. Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni break down the seismic shift at Netflix following the company’s decision to give Greta Gerwig’s Narnia film a 49-day theatrical window ahead of its streaming debut. They also discuss the ups and downs from Disney’s latest quarterly earnings report and the newly finalized four-year agreement between SAG-AFTRA and the studios.

Kirk Jones and Robert Aramayo on the making of ‘I Swear’ 01.05.2026 30мин

This week, Kim Masters speaks with director Kirk Jones and actor Robert Aramayo about I Swear, the BAFTA winning film about Tourette’s advocate John Davidson. Jones talks about using his own life savings to self-finance the project after potential backers pushed him to tone down the film’s language, and how that decision allowed him to cast Aramayo in the lead without studio oversight. Aramayo discusses the physical and emotional demands of portraying Davidson, a role that required extensive preparation and ultimately earned him a BAFTA. They also reflect on the widely publicized moment at the BAFTA ceremony that brought renewed attention to Tourette’s syndrome. Plus, in the aftermath of the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, Kim Masters and Matt Belloni unpack the FCC scrutiny facing The Walt Disney Company over a recent late-night jab from Jimmy Kimmel. The duo also explore the unexpected box office strength of a controversial Michael Jackson biopic and the delicate balancing act at Lionsgate as it weighs a potential sequel amid ongoing public backlash.  

Ben McKenzie’s Crypto Warning: ‘Everyone Is Lying to You for Money’ 24.04.2026 30мин

This week, Kim Masters speaks with Ben McKenzie about his documentary Everyone Is Lying to You for Money, which examines fraud in the cryptocurrency world. The actor discusses leaning into his popularity as Ryan on The OC as a narrative device in the film—one that helped get him in the room for a cringe-inducing interview with now-convicted crypto figure Sam Bankman-Fried. McKenzie also explains how he bet against crypto to help finance the project and shares some thoughts on the celebrities who profited from crypto endorsements. Plus, as the White House Correspondents’ Dinner approaches—with Donald Trump expected to attend and a mentalist booked instead of a comedian—Masters and Matt Belloni examine concerns about the event’s legitimacy, media boycotts, and the broader political entanglements facing outlets like CBS News under David Ellison’s leadership.

Riz Ahmed on bringing 'Hamlet' into the modern world 17.04.2026 30мин

This week, Kim Masters speaks with Riz Ahmed about his modern retelling of Hamlet. The actor and producer discusses the decade-long journey of adapting the Shakespeare classic and how the project evolved from a planned Netflix streaming release to securing theatrical distribution with Focus Features. He also jokes about family members misinterpreting the significance of his Oscar-nominated performance in Sound of Metal and traces the origins of the “Riz Test,” a Bechdel-adjacent measure of Muslim representation in storytelling. Plus, as theater owners and studio executives share their views on the Paramount–Warner Bros. deal at CinemaCon, thousands of industry professionals—including Ben Stiller, Kristen Stewart, and J.J. Abrams—have signed a petition to block the merger. Kim Masters and Matt Belloni examine Hollywood’s opposition and consider whether the growing outcry will have any real influence as the company seeks approval from regulators and shareholders.

Drew Goddard shoots for the stars with ‘Project Hail Mary’ 10.04.2026 30мин

This week, Kim Masters sits down with Drew Goddard to discuss adapting Andy Weir’s novel Project Hail Mary for the big screen. He reflects on how his early days writing on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Alias, and Lost trained him to move fast, as he did when he was tasked with turning around the script for Cloverfield after Paramount greenlit the project from an outline. He also talks about being brought in to rescue World War Z, and shares the advice he gave Andy Weir about a potential Project Hail Mary sequel. Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni dig into the fallout from Jeff Shell’s exit as Paramount president, tied to allegations of leaking company information. The banter partners also spotlight a bit of good news in the industry following last week’s box office report: the Writers Guild’s unexpected four-year contract extension with studios, which could help build momentum ahead of SAG-AFTRA negotiations set to resume later this month.

Oscar winners victory lap: Autumn Durald Arkapaw & Joachim Trier 03.04.2026 30мин

The Academy Awards are behind us, but we’re sharing unheard stories from Kim Masters’ interviews with some of the recently minted Oscar winners. That includes director Joachim Trier, who shares how he landed on casting Elle Fanning in his Best International Feature winner, Sentimental Value. Trier also talks about getting to a place where he can cast well-known actors who sign on to his films without reading a script, just because it’s him. And we hear more from Autumn Durald Arkapaw, the first woman to win an Academy Award for Best Cinematography. She breaks down the challenges of shooting Sinners for IMAX, and recalls Christopher Nolan’s advice to Ryan Coogler about the best way to shoot the movie. Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni dig into the theatrical bounce-back, with the box office up 23% from last year. They point to big wins like Project Hail Mary and The Super Mario Galaxy Movie, which is on track to pull in $200 million domestically and $350 million worldwide. The banter partners also unpack a stacked summer slate from Universal and Disney, and weigh in on superhero fatigue, with the latest Avengers movie set to drop this December.

A demanding first week for Disney CEO Josh D’Amaro 27.03.2026 30мин

And just like that, Josh D'Amaro’s first week as CEO of The Walt Disney Company proved challenging, to say the least. From a brewing Bachelorette scandal to the abrupt cancellation of Sora by OpenAI, and fresh turmoil at Epic Games amid layoffs, Matt Belloni and Lucas Shaw unpack the challenges facing Disney’s new chief. Plus, we revisit our conversation with Daryl Hannah, who joined Masters last year to discuss her Neil Young concert film Coastal, which had a limited theatrical run in 2025. Hannah reflects on her years of acting and activism, pursued alongside figures like Willie Nelson, Joan Baez, and… Robert F. Kennedy Jr. She also recounts a painful experience with Harvey Weinstein during the Kill Bill press tour, and reveals what prompted her to proclaim “Slava Ukraini” at last year’s Academy Awards.

A human conversation with the producers of ‘The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist’ 20.03.2026 30мин

This week, Kim talks to Diane Becker and Ted Tremper about The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist. The producers discuss how they managed to land big names in machine learning, including the CEOs of OpenAI and Anthropic. Becker and Tremper also explain how they nearly got Elon Musk—until, surprisingly, he ghosted. They also share how they kept their brains from melting while tackling a subject as overwhelming as AI. Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni break down the first week of Disney’s new CEO, Josh D’Amaro, who outlined his goals for the company in a memo to employees, emphasizing creative storytelling and the embrace of new technology. Meanwhile, the banter partners examine Wall Street’s negative reaction to the Paramount–Warner Bros. merger and why California Attorney General Rob Bonta has vowed to scrutinize David Ellison’s acquisition of the legacy studio.  

Tilly Norwood creator defends her controversial synthetic character 13.03.2026 30мин

This week, Kim talks with Tilly Norwood creator Eline Van der Velden, who defends her controversial synthetic character. Van der Velden argues that Tilly Norwood is simply another character, an extension of herself, not so different from others she’s created during her years as an actress. The Particle6 Productions co-founder explains why she believes entertainment built with generative AI will find a place in the industry and predicts that more agents will follow CAA’s lead in signing synthetic characters. Plus, Kim Masters and Matt Belloni discuss Ben Affleck’s investment in AI through his company Interpositive, which he sold to Netflix in a deal that could reach $600 million. The banter partners also address Live Nation’s ticketing practices, including a lawsuit with evidence of employees joking about price gouging fans — comments that later prompted the company to distance itself from those involved.

A check-in with SAG-AFTRA president Sean Astin 06.03.2026 30мин

This week, Kim talks with SAG-AFTRA president Sean Astin about stepping into the job during a tumultuous year for Hollywood. His early tenure has already included an FCC clash involving Jimmy Kimmel, the arrival of synthetic “performers,” and some wonky legal maneuvering from OpenAI. Astin discusses the most pressing issues facing the union as bargaining is underway, including wages and working conditions as well as the challenges posed by AI companies scraping copyrighted material. Plus, David Ellison has unveiled plans to merge Paramount+ and HBO Max into a single streaming platform. Kim Masters and Matt Belloni dig into the proposal – which comes with about $80 billion in debt and the strong likelihood of layoffs –  and the familiar promise that “synergies” in tech, ad sales and platforms will do the heavy lifting. They also examine how the shake-up may affect HBO leadership, the uncertain future of CNN, and how Donald Trump’s influence could complicate an already fraught moment for media companies.

Kleber Mendonça Filho on ‘The Secret Agent’ and taking a stand 27.02.2026 30мин

This week, Kim sits down with Brazilian writer-director Kleber Mendonça Filho to discuss his Oscar-nominated political thriller The Secret Agent. A former film critic, Mendonça explains why he still reads every review of his work. He also reflects on the backlash that followed his 2016 Cannes red carpet protest against Brazil’s leadership and the fallout that complicated the Oscar hopes for Aquarius. Plus, a special guest drops in for a brief chat. Meanwhile, in an unexpected turn of events, Netflix has dropped out of the Warner Bros. bidding war, leaving Paramount as the winner. Masters and Matt Belloni dive into the streamer’s decision to bow out, what could lie ahead for Warner Bros. and its news networks, and the legal hoops Paramount may expect with the Department of Justice. Do you love listening to The Business? We want to hear from you! Please take a moment to share your feedback in this survey so we can make your listening experience better. Thank you!

Oscar-nominated cinematographer Autumn Durald Arkapaw on ‘Sinners’ 20.02.2026 30мин

This week, Kim sits down with Academy Award–nominated cinematographer Autumn Durald Arkapaw, who made history with Sinners as the first woman of color nominated for the Oscar for Best Cinematography. She discusses her work on the film and how it evolved from a scrappy 16mm concept into a full-scale IMAX spectacle at the studio’s urging. She also addresses the mounting strain on crews as production continues to leave Los Angeles, and why meaningful opportunities for women in film remain notably scarce. Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni unpack a less than ideal week for Paramount as the company continues its effort to win over shareholders at Warner Bros, beginning with CBS pulling the plug on Stephen Colbert’s planned interview with Texas state rep James Talarico. Network lawyers cited new FCC guidance on political candidates appearing on talk shows, a move that drove Colbert to post the segment on YouTube, outside the regulator’s reach. The banter partners also examine the departure of Anderson Cooper after nearly two decades at 60 Minutes, another high-profile shift inside the David Ellison led news division. 

Palme d’Or winner Jafar Panahi on ‘It Was Just an Accident’ and returning to Iran under legal threat 13.02.2026 30мин

This week, Kim Masters sits down with Academy Award nominated Iranian filmmaker Jafar Panahi to discuss his Palme d’Or winning film It Was Just an Accident. Panahi explains why he self finances his films, bringing in partners only after he decides the work is worthy of his signature, and how he has continued to shoot in secret despite years of arrests, censorship, and government bans. He also reflects on his decision to return to Iran after the awards season, even as he faces the possibility of another prison sentence. Plus, Masters and Matt Belloni dig into the latest twists in the Warner Bros. sale, including Paramount’s new concessions aimed at winning over regulators and shareholders. They weigh the limits of President Trump’s influence over the deal, and how a major investor group’s shifting position could reshape the bidding landscape and spark further legal battles.  