Creativity and Compliance

Creativity and Compliance

Tom Fox
Страна США
Жанры Бизнес
Язык EN
Эпизодов 91
Последний 31.07.2026

Creativity and Compliance explores the intersection of creative thinking and compliance, covering topics like problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection. Hosted by Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman, the show is part of the Compliance Podcast Network and examines how creativity impacts ethics, leadership, training, and the daily work of compliance professionals.

Эпизоды

  • Reinventing Compliance: Lauren Thal on Improv, Humor, and Approachable Messaging at Tolmar 31.07.2026 37мин
    Tom Fox and co-host Ronnie Feldman interview Lauren Thal, VP of Compliance at mid-size pharma company Tolmar, about building an in-house compliance program after external partners previously ran it. Lauren describes her background in healthcare compliance and earlier consulting at Ernst & Young and Navigant and explains why Tolmar’s legal/compliance team used improv training at a retreat to strengthen soft skills, bonding, and collaboration in a remote, cross-location environment. They discuss how exercises like “Red Ball” and role-playing highlight communication styles, active listening, adaptability, and managing competing priorities, helping compliance partner with the business without appearing “finger-waggy” or like the “police.” Lauren also explains her training/communications strategy using short, playful compliance videos on topics such as Speak Up and Code of Conduct to disarm fear, increase attention and recall, and encourage engagement, offering practical ideas for deployment and emphasizing that humor reinforces rather than undermines compliance messages. Key highlights: Lauren’s Compliance Journey Why Improv at Retreat Red Ball and Styles Partnering Without Fear Handling the Chaos Business Feedback and Impact Advice to Sell the Idea Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real, speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Lauren Thal On LinkedIn  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple-award-winning podcast and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Change Management, Fun, and User Experience: Driving Engagement in Compliance 24.07.2026 26мин
    Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman host Caveni Wong on Creativity and Compliance to discuss how change management principles align with ethics and compliance by focusing on influencing behavior rather than prioritizing “defensibility” alone. Wong describes her 20-year compliance career across consulting, service providers, and in-house roles, plus change management work at Ernst & Young and IBM. The group emphasizes stakeholder involvement, relationship-building, and user experience (UX) across the full risk management lifecycle, arguing that engaging, creative, and appropriately short training and communication improve attention, retention, approachability, and trust. Wong shares examples like creative visuals, World Cup goalie analogies, and “two truths and a lie” during M&A integration to humanize compliance and build credibility with leaders. They discuss measuring effectiveness via evaluations, recall questions, engagement, increased speak-ups, and more HR/compliance inquiries, concluding that compliance success depends on not forgetting people. Key highlights: Compliance Meets Change Beyond Training to Risk Human Connection at Work Creative Training Examples User Experience Focus Measuring Real Impact Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real, speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Caveni Wong On LinkedIn Principle Compliance Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple podcast award-winning show and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Compliance 6-Pack: Part 6 - Make Your Partner Look Good 19.06.2026 10мин
    Tom and Ronnie conclude their six-part series highlighting the role of improv in compliance. This series links improv lessons to corporate compliance and some of the key tools and strategies Ronnie has brought from his former world of improv to the corporate compliance communications realm. In today’s Improv & Compliance Lesson 6, Tom and Ronnie conclude their series on improv lessons for compliance with “make your partner look good, and they’ll make you look good.” Ronnie explains that improv succeeds as an ensemble art by focusing on teammates rather than competing for attention, which reduces anxiety and increases creativity; he illustrates this with a workshop exercise where legal and compliance professionals become more willing to participate once the goal is to “help your friend” in the middle. Tom connects the concept to persuasion as a key tool for chief compliance officers: adding business value and helping colleagues succeed makes compliance influence more effective. Ronnie applies this to compliance by engaging business leaders with short, simple, entertaining training and tools that make it easy to cascade ethics messages in the flow of work, increasing adoption and visibility. The episode notes that a downloadable white paper summarizing the six lessons is available. Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple-award-winning podcast and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Compliance 6-Pack: Part 5 - Truth in Comedy - Authenticity and Storytelling for More Credible Compliance 12.06.2026 10мин
    Tom and Ronnie continue their six-part series highlighting the role of improv in compliance. This series links improv lessons to corporate compliance and some of the key tools and strategies Ronnie has brought from his former world of improv to the corporate compliance communications realm. In today’s Improv & Compliance Lesson 5, the lesson focuses on “Truth in Comedy,” linking improv and comedy to ethics and compliance. Tom and Ronnie begin with Gilda Radner’s quote, “Humor is just truth only faster.” Feldman argues comedy works because it exposes shared truths, and compliance programs build credibility by being authentic about real issues rather than pretending everything is fine. He recommends sharing speak-up and reporting trends, anonymized investigation outcomes, culture survey results, and what happens after reports to build trust. Feldman suggests using true stories—internal case studies or news examples—told in engaging formats (newsletters, podcasts, interviews, videos, reenactments) to create teachable moments, stressing “don’t be boring.” They conclude that truthful, interesting communication and authenticity increase engagement, strengthen training, and improve psychological safety and speak-up culture. Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple-award-winning podcast and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Compliance 6-Pack: Part 4- Using “Yes, And” 15.05.2026 9мин
    Tom and Ronnie continue their six part series highlighting the role of improv in compliance.  This series links improv lessons to corporate compliance, and some of the key tools and strategies Ronnie has brought from his former world of improv to the corporate compliance communications realm. In today’s Improv & Compliance Lesson 3, they focus Using “Yes, And” to Shift Compliance from the Office of No to a Collaborative Advisor.   Tom and Ronnie discuss the improv principle “Yes, and,” described as agreeing to the reality presented, dropping one’s agenda, and adding a new piece of information to build collaboratively. They explain how this mindset helps compliance move beyond the “office of no” by affirming and acknowledging business requests, then bridging to relevant risks, laws, and policies (e.g., gifts and entertainment, conflicts of interest) to problem-solve together without immediately shutting ideas down. Ronnie emphasizes “Yes, and” as both a personal communication technique and an organizational philosophy: learn the business, speak its language, and design simple, action-oriented, accessible policies and training that provide timely, embedded guidance. The episode ends with a preview of the next lesson on truth in comedy.  Resources:  Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions - inspired by "Mean Tweets" these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful.  E&C Training Jams - a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can't bore people into learning.     Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple podcast award winner show and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Compliance 6-Pack: Part 3 - An Attitude of Gratitude 08.05.2026 9мин
    Tom and Ronnie continue their six-part series highlighting the role of improv in compliance.  This series links improv lessons to corporate compliance and some of the key tools and strategies Ronnie has brought from his former world of improv to the corporate compliance communications realm. In today’s Improv & Compliance Lesson 3, they focus on ” an attitude of gratitude,” which means being grateful for information shared, postponing judgment, and dropping personal agendas to fully commit to what others contribute. Ronnie explains how judgment on stage (of oneself or a scene partner) harms listening, support, and collaboration, while a silent “thank you” helps create openness and leads to more thoughtful responses. They connect this to corporate compliance, urging teams to resist judging employees who ask repeated questions (e.g., gifts and entertainment) and instead be welcoming, even when the ultimate answer is no. Feldman notes improv skills are practicable, references Viola Spolin’s action-driven approach to building intention, and recommends institutionalizing gratitude in reporting channels by thanking reporters, clarifying next steps, and reinforcing psychological safety. Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple-award-winning podcast and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Compliance 6-Pack: Part 2 - Listen Like a Thief 01.05.2026 12мин
    Tom and Ronnie continue their six-part series highlighting the role of improv in compliance. This series links improv lessons to corporate compliance and some of the key tools and strategies Ronnie has brought from his former world of improv to the corporate compliance communications realm. In today’s Improv & Compliance Lesson 2, they focus on “listen like a thief” as a core active-listening skill for leaders and compliance professionals. Ronnie explains that when authority figures formulate answers too quickly, they miss verbal and nonverbal cues and critical late-breaking “doorknob comments,” undermining trust when people perceive inattentiveness. He recommends listening with the whole body, avoiding interruptions, using a “last word” silent repeat to create a pause, silently saying thank you, and asking clarifying questions before responding. They extend the concept to organizational listening through ethics ambassador/compliance champion networks, a tracking hotline, consultative questions, and surveys that assess speak-up awareness, perceived safety, organizational justice, and trust. They emphasize closing the loop by communicating outcomes through anonymized stories and metrics, so employees know they were heard.  Resources:  Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real, speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning.  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple podcast award-winning show and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Compliance 6-Pack: Part 1 - The Role of Improv in Compliance 24.04.2026 10мин
    Tom and Ronnie begin a six-part series highlighting the role of improv in compliance and the key tools and strategies Ronnie has brought from his former improv world into the corporate compliance communications realm. In today’s Improv & Compliance Lesson 1: “Got Your Back” and Psychological Safety. Ronnie defines psychological safety as the belief that employees won’t be punished for raising ideas, questions, mistakes, or concerns, and explains how improv teams deliberately practice support—often physically telling one another “I’ve got your back”—to enable creative freedom. They draw parallels to compliance programs by emphasizing proactive, frequent promotion of reporting channels, anti-retaliation messaging, and the use of short, interesting, creative formats (e.g., stories, songs, commercials) to avoid message fatigue. Tom adds that organizations must “walk the walk” by preventing retaliation and reinforcing the message throughout investigations. Ronnie also emphasizes humanizing the ethics and compliance team to create an “ensemble” feel.  Resources:  Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real, speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning.  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple podcast award-winning show and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Captain Compliance: Humor, Characters, and Creative Training at Premera Blue Cross 06.03.2026 25мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection all require creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on the award-winning Creativity and Compliance. Ronnie’s company, Learning and Entertainment, uses the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and applies them to important topics in compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. Tom and Ronnie are back with their first episode for 2026. They visit with Sven Peterson, VP of Compliance, Ethics, and Regulatory Services at Premera Blue Cross, to discuss using creativity and humor to make compliance more approachable and strengthen the speak-up culture in a highly regulated industry. Peterson explains why his team created “Captain Compliance,” a superhero-style character he plays, in both live and animated versions, to deliver ethical guidance through short skits, training sessions, meetings, and employee events; the program also includes an “Ethics League” and a contrasting character, Professor Pitfall. He emphasizes that ethics is a team sport supported by compliance champions across the company, and advises establishing credibility, gaining leadership buy-in, involving others as co-authors, and aligning with company culture. Reported results include strong employee awareness survey feedback and Ethisphere’s Compliance Leader Verification. Key highlights: Why Creativity Matters Meet Captain Compliance How the Skits Work Approachability and Speak Up Building Community and Champions Handling Skeptics and Buy-In Results and Measuring Impact  Resources:  Sven Peterson on LinkedIn Premera Blue Cross Captain Compliance Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams: a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real, speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning.  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance is a multiple podcast award-winning show and was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Using Creativity to Market Compliance 26.09.2025 25мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection – they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on the award-winning Creativity and Compliance. Ronnie’s company, Learning and Entertainment, leverages the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and applies them to important topics related to compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. Today, Tom and Ronnie discuss the importance of addressing the marketing and PR issues in ethics and compliance programs in this episode of 'Creativity and Compliance.' Ronnie introduces his new white paper titled 'Ethics and Compliance has a Marketing and PR Problem,' emphasizing the need to revamp compliance programs by adopting marketing strategies. Key strategies discussed include creating a positive brand identity, gaining and maintaining attention, building and nurturing relationships, leveraging influencer status, and measuring the right metrics. Examples and anecdotes illustrate these concepts and practical applications. Key highlights: Marketing and Compliance: A New Approach Creating a Voice Identity and Brand Gaining and Maintaining Attention Building and Nurturing Relationships Becoming an Influencer The Importance of Measurement Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions - inspired by "Mean Tweets," these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams - a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can't bore people into learning.  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Crowdsourcing Compliance: Creative Strategies for Engaging Employees 12.09.2025 16мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection – they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on the award-winning Creativity and Compliance. Ronnie’s company, Learning and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices that people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives, and applies it to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. In this episode, Tom and Ronnie discuss innovative ways to tap into the collective intelligence of employees through crowdsourcing. They explore how creative methods can be used to promote an ethical workplace, including employee contests, mascots, and fun engagement activities. They highlight examples such as compliance trading cards, privacy promotions with pets, cocktail-themed compliance policies, and internal lip-syncing videos. They also discuss using internal podcasts to enhance corporate culture and the importance of creating a culture of trust where employees feel heard and engaged. Key highlights: Crowdsourcing Compliance: An Innovative Approach Creative Examples of Employee Engagement Building a Culture of Trust Fun and Cost-Effective Compliance Strategies The Power of Internal Podcasts Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. E&C Has a PR Problem Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Reinventing Compliance with Creativity: The Acteon I-Care Code 08.08.2025 33мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection—they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on the award-winning Creativity and Compliance. Ronnie’s company, Learning and Entertainment, leverages the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their daily lives and applies this approach to important topics such as compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It involves adjusting the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. Today, Ronnie takes a solo turn as host to Diana Whitney and Jason Blue, both from Acteon, to discuss their innovative approach to revamping their compliance program. With a new ownership structure emphasizing compliance, they created the I-Care Code. Through a creative rebranding effort featuring mascots Connie Compliance and Easy Breezy, the I-Care Code encompasses key values of integrity, compliance, accountability, respect, and ethics. By leveraging videos, interactive sessions, and a global roadshow, they successfully boosted employee engagement and speak-up cases, demonstrating the power of creativity in compliance. Key highlights: The Need for a New Compliance Approach Introducing the I-Care Code Creating Engaging Compliance Characters Launching the I-Care Code: Roadshow and Global Engagement Success Stories and Metrics Advice for Implementing Creative Compliance Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programming – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning.  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Nourish Your Audience: A New Approach to Compliance Training 30.05.2025 16мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection – they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on the award-winning Creativity and Compliance. Ronnie’s company, Learnings and Entertainment, leverages the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and applies them to important topics related to compliance and ethics. It’s not just about being funny. It’s about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible and engaging. In this episode, Tom and Ronnie discuss the balance between evidencing compliance training and ensuring its effectiveness through employee engagement. Ronnie expresses concerns about the focus on measurement to the detriment of engagement. He emphasizes the need for training that is engaging, short, and relevant to influence behavior and mitigate risk truly. They suggest approaches to create a compliance program that combines engagement with measurement, including regular and interesting communications, as well as more targeted training. The podcast also explores how to make a compliance calendar and the importance of adjusting content to reflect current events and practical considerations. Key highlights: The Debate: Evidence vs. Engagement in Training The Importance of Nourishing Your Audience Strategies for Effective Compliance Training Addressing Compliance Fatigue Mapping Out a Compliance Program Resources:  Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote a speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Overcoming Conservatism in Compliance Education with Creativity 23.05.2025 16мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection – they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network. Ronnie’s company, Learnings and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and applies it to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. In this episode of Creativity and Compliance, Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman tackle the challenge of integrating creative, engaging methods into compliance training within conservative institutions. Drawing examples from financial giants, they discuss how these organizations have successfully implemented entertaining and effective training strategies. Addressing common concerns such as risk aversion, cost, and effectiveness, the hosts advocate for shorter, more frequent, and varied training formats. They highlight that creativity in compliance training not only captures attention but also enhances engagement and memory retention. The episode concludes with a call to action for compliance professionals to consider what they have to lose by trying new approaches. Key highlights: Overcoming Conservatism in Creative Compliance Addressing Risk-Averse Concerns Short, Fun, and Frequent Training Variety in Compliance Training User Experience and Engagement Resources:  Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters about ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! E&C meets SNL Weekend Update to explain corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • From Compliance Enforcers to Trusted Advisors: The Path Forward 09.05.2025 15мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? It can be found in more places than you might expect. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection – they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network. Ronnie’s company, Learnings and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and applies it to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. In this episode, Tom and Ronnie discuss the evolution of compliance roles from merely cleaning up messes to becoming integral business advisors and coaches. They emphasize the necessity of showcasing value through proactive, positive communication and using creative, engaging methods. They highlight insights from the Global Ethics Summit and delve into the importance of humor, human connection, and innovative compliance training and interaction approaches. The episode points out the importance of transitioning compliance perceptions within organizations and offers practical, cost-effective ways for compliance officers to engage, educate, and support their colleagues. Key highlights: From Cleaning Up Messes to Becoming Advisors The Role of AI in Compliance Advertising Your Role as Advisors Using Humor and Creativity in Compliance Engaging Communication Strategies Low-Cost, High-Impact Compliance Ideas Resources:  Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning.  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Bringing Joy to Compliance: A Conversation with Virginia MacSuibhne 04.04.2025 32мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection – they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network. Ronnie’s company, Learnings, and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and apply it to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. In this episode of Creativity and Compliance, Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman are joined by Virginia MacSuibhne, former Chief Compliance Officer for Roche and Agilent Technologies. Virginia shares her unique approach to making compliance accessible, engaging, and fun. Emphasizing the importance of a personal brand, she discusses her philosophy of authenticity and how it translates into creating clear, actionable, and enjoyable guidance. Her unconventional methods, including using infographics, breaking down complex policies, and injecting humor and personal interests, have significantly impacted employee engagement and compliance culture. Virginia highlights the critical role of user experience (UX) in compliance, urging practitioners to rethink their policies and communication strategies. She shares anecdotes of her creative initiatives, such as wearing a unicorn costume to training sessions, integrating compliance messages into existing training programs, and making hotline experiences as user-friendly as possible. Her mantra, ‘What makes you weird makes you wonderful,’ encourages compliance professionals to bring their unique selves to their work to foster a more approachable and effective compliance environment. Key highlights: Virginia’s Philosophy on Compliance Creating an Engaging Compliance Program Simplifying Policies and Procedures Innovative Training and Communication Techniques Overcoming Pushback and Building a Business Case Resources: Virginia MacSuibhne on LinkedIn Ronnie: Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Innovating Ethics: Creativity in Corporate Compliance with Katie Lawler 21.03.2025 33мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection—they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network. Ronnie’s company, Learnings, and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and applies it to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. In this episode of Creativity and Compliance, Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman are joined by Katie Lawler, EVP and Global Chief Ethics Officer at U.S. Bank. They deeply dive into the importance of creativity in corporate ethics programs, particularly how innovative approaches help engage employees and drive behavior change. Katie shares insights on embedding ethics into daily operations, discussing successful initiatives like the ‘Ethics RideShare’ video series and ‘Ethics Mythbusters.’ They highlight balancing creativity with budget constraints, leveraging internal communication channels, and humanizing the ethics office to foster a more approachable environment. Tune in to discover actionable tips for making your compliance programs more engaging and effective. Key highlights: The Value of Creativity in Ethics Programs Ethics Rideshare: A Creative Initiative Humanizing Leadership During the Pandemic Ethics Mythbusters: Debunking Common Misconceptions Resources: Katie Lawler on LinkedIn  Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning.  Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Adding Spice to Compliance Programs 07.03.2025 13мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection—they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network. Ronnie’s company, Learnings and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and apply it to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. In this episode of Creativity and Compliance, Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman take up the challenge of adding spice to your compliance program and discuss the importance of adding creativity and ‘spice’ to corporate compliance programs. They explore how standard compliance elements like policies, training, and communications often fail to engage employees effectively. By integrating playful, positive, and humorous elements, companies can make their compliance programs more digestible and engaging, leading to better adherence and fewer issues. Examples include short videos, infographics, and interactive games to convey important messages. They emphasize the need for regular, engaging content that employees will look forward to, transforming the compliance department into a trusted, supportive resource. Key highlights: The Epiphany: Ingredients for Compliance Adding Spice to Compliance Programs Different Ways to Spice Up Compliance Creative Approaches to Compliance Training Engaging and Fun Compliance Strategies Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Creativity and Compliance was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Upping Your Compliance Game 21.02.2025 18мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection—they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network. Ronnie’s company, Learnings and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and apply it to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. In this episode of Creativity and Compliance, Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman take up the challenge handed down by Hui Chen in light of the administration’s suspension of FCPA enforcement to up their compliance game. Ronnie begins by advocating for a transformation in compliance training, suggesting a shift from traditional e-learning methods to engaging communication campaigns emphasizing a Speak Up Culture and seamlessly integrating compliance into daily business operations. He believes that by using short, entertaining formats and training leaders to present content playfully, compliance can become more interesting and effective, positioning compliance professionals as valuable assets through proactive engagement and collaboration. Tom underscores the importance of compliance professionals being approachable and communicative, serving as problem solvers who collaborate with business units to achieve unexpected, beneficial outcomes. Both experts agree that by humanizing the compliance function and focusing on values and behaviors, compliance professionals can enhance their programs and contribute significantly to organizational success. Key highlights: Engaging Communication Campaigns for Compliance Training Strategic Communication for Compliance Professionals Cultivating Proactive Compliance Culture through Training Programs Strategic Engagement for Compliance Professionals Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote speak up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance explaining policies, sharing examples and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn For more information on the Ethico ROI Calculator and a free White Paper on the ROI of Compliance, click here. Creativity and Compliance was recently honored as one of the Top 35 Podcasts on Creativity by Feedspot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
  • Creative Approaches to Corporate Compliance with Tyson Avery 24.01.2025 22мин
    Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection – they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network. Ronnie’s company, Learnings, and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and apply it to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. In this episode of Creativity and Compliance, host Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman are joined by Tyson Avery, the former Chief Ethics Compliance Officer at Starbucks and current Deputy General Counsel and Compliance Officer for Lucid Motors. They discuss innovative strategies to make ethics and compliance engaging within organizations. Tyson shares insights into how he has leveraged creative methods to make serious compliance topics more relatable and accessible, emphasizing the importance of aligning corporate values with effective compliance programs. One of the standout moments in the episode is Tyson’s recounting of the ‘Wally Awards,’ a unique initiative aimed at normalizing misconduct reporting and fostering a culture of transparency and trust. Through creative anonymization and employee engagement, the Wally Awards highlighted significant misconduct cases without compromising confidentiality, thereby encouraging ethical behavior across the company. The episode underscores the need for continuous, relatable, and engaging communications to embed compliance into the organizational culture. Key highlights: The Importance of Creativity in Compliance Making Ethics Relatable The Wally Awards: A Creative Compliance Initiative Building Engagement and Trust Advice for Implementing Creative Compliance Resources: Ronnie Ronnie Feldman (LinkedIn) Learnings & Entertainments (LinkedIn)  Ronnie Feldman (Twitter) Learnings & Entertainments (Website) Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful. E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses.  Tales from the Hotline – Real speak-up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong. Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care. 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches. Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning. Tom Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn For more information on the Ethico ROI Calculator and a free White Paper on the ROI of Compliance, click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices