Cloud Out Loud Podcast

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  Open Source Reality Check 17.12.2025 37мин

  Send a text The dream of open source is freedom, speed, and shared progress—but the reality gets messy when it meets cloud-scale business and security. We explore how Docker kickstarted containers while Google’s Kubernetes turned them into an operational standard, and why that split shaped everything from engineering culture to company strategy. From there, we compare the cloud giants’ philosophies: Google’s foundation-first approach, Microsoft’s transformation from anti-OSS to stewarding Git...
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  Episode 36 - Open Source From Hackers to Kubernetes: How Open Source Evolved 01.10.2025 42мин

  Send a text Ever wonder how free software ended up running the world’s biggest clouds? We pull on a thread that starts with the hacker ethos—access, transparency, community—and follows it through OSCON memories, Docker’s breakout moment, and the quiet power shift that came with Kubernetes. From early research culture to the realities of running production systems, we map how open source moved from ideal to infrastructure and why today’s cloud thrives on community-built code. We look at why D...
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  Episode 35: AI Hype vs. Reality: Rethinking Build vs. Buy 14.08.2025 32мин

  Send a text In this episode, Jon and Logan explore whether generative AI fundamentally changes the build versus buy decision for businesses considering software solutions. They analyze recent claims about AI-powered cost savings and examine the underlying principles that should guide technology decisions. How Logan is using AI in his common tasks Looking at recent claims from companies like Klarna about replacing SaaS with AI-built softwareRevisiting the fundamental truth t...
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  Episode 34 - AI Still Needs Humans in the Loop 19.03.2025 25мин

  Send a text When identical prompts yield different outputs and a request for "a cat running across the screen" generates four cylinders and a bobbing balloon, the non-deterministic nature of generative AI becomes impossible to ignore. Despite the power of these sophisticated models, we discovered that creating consistent, high-quality results demanded substantial human intervention – not less. Our journey moved from refining prompts to building extensive code example libraries, requiring th...
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  Episode 33 - Creating an Animation Application using AI 05.03.2025 39мин

  Send a text In this episode we try out what we've speculated AI, particularly GenAI is good for: expanding the capabilities of engineers as they create new applications. This application uses Google's Cloud Run and Google Cloud Storage to get user's specification of an animation, create the animation, then store and play the animation. This the link to the Github repo for the application. The AI framework for the application is Google's Gemini and the program generates the animation is...
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  Episode 32 - Responsibility for Security in the Cloud 06.10.2024 24мин

  Send a text Courtesy of Corey Quinn's "Last Week in AWS" Newsletter # 389 Logan and Jon discovered a presentation from Sec-T by Chris Farris that does a great job describing the tension between the Cloud Providers and Customers when it comes to security. The presentation does a great job of highlighting the fact that, though the cloud can be made secure, for many people the defaults they use do not make them as secure as possible. In addition, the cloud providers have to make sure that...
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  Episode 31 - An AI Manifesto 23.07.2024 29мин

  Send a text This episode reviews a manifesto written by Leopold Aschenbrenner, formerly of OpenAI, now a founder of an investment firm that is focused on AGI, Advanced General Intelligence. The manifesto is titled SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, The Decade Ahead. This episode's discussion sets up who Leopold is, where he's been, and what his focus is. From there the focus is on one aspect of the document, Security. ANd here the discussion looks at what the paper cosiders vulnerabilities, versus the r...
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  Episode 30 - The Challenges of Using LLM and Generative AI 29.06.2024 35мин

  Send a text As with all the discussions of AI, and particularly LLM's and Generative AI, this is a discussion of the challenges of getting it right, making it useful, and using these tools successfully in a business. Major Points: There are a large number of commercial and open-source models available.Tens and even hundreds of millions of dollars were spent, and equal amounts of person years were expended to create these models. Your business cannot and should not duplicate this effort and e...
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  Episode 29 - The Current State of AI: LLMs Becoming Commoditized 22.04.2024 31мин

  Send a text SummaryWe start off discussing the recent developments and timeline of generative AI models, particularly ChatGPT, GPT-4, Bard, Llama2, Gemini, and Claude. We covered the release of these models by companies like OpenAI, Google, Meta, and Anthropic, their performance benchmarks, and the emerging ecosystem of models. The discussion highlighted the commoditization of these models, the need to understand their capabilities and limitations, and the potential security risks and challen...
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  Episode 28 - A Review of Where We Are 23.10.2023 17мин

  Send a text Unveiling the Future of Cloud and AI at Google Cloud Next Episode 28: Show Notes In this episode, we delve into the most recent big cloud conference, Google Cloud Next. We discuss what we saw, felt, and heard at this year's iconic Google Cloud Next and provide listeners with our biggest takeaways from the event. We discuss the cutting-edge tools in generative AI and machine learning that Google has rolled out and the potential these new Google offerings hold for developi...
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  Episode 27 - Risks of Generative AI 06.07.2023 42мин

  Send a text Episode 27: Show Notes Welcome back to Cloud Out Loud as we continue our discussion on generative AI and machine learning. Today is all about exploring the risks of modern machine learning and how we can properly navigate them as a society. Jon and Logan walk us through the benefits of AI tools for software companies, the dangers of poorly-trained generative AI models, why good code may not always be the kept standard, and how to assess the cost-effectiveness of the machine learni...
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  Episode 26 - Generative AI and Chat GPT 04.07.2023 24мин

  Send a text Generative AI and ChatGPT with Logan and Jon Episode 26: Show Notes Machine learning and AI are fast becoming integrated into our everyday lives. However, despite its rising popularity, there is still a lot of confusion and misunderstanding around the subject. In this episode, we unravel the fundamental principles of machine learning and artificial intelligence. We start by setting the context before diving into the technical and business side of AI. We explain the different t...
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  Episode 25 - The Best Cloud Environments for Machine Learning 18.03.2023 29мин

  Send a text Best Environment for Machine Learning Episode 25: Show Notes Lately, there’s been a lot of hype about AI. In today’s podcast, we too are going to chat about AI, and specifically the subset of artificial intelligence called machine learning. Instead of talking about the political, social, and moral aspects of this subject, however, we’re going to speak about some of the more mundane aspects of deploying this technology. Tuning in, you’ll hear about some of the recent technologies t...
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  Leaving the Cloud 14.02.2023 22мин

  Send a text Leaving the Cloud Episode 24: Show Notes While our preference is always to use the cloud to address IT problems, today we look at a company that is doing the opposite. 37signals, the company behind the project management software Basecamp and the email system Hey, has decided to bring their workloads off the cloud and back into a data center. DHH, the Co-owner and CTO of 37signals, recently announced that the company had spent $3.2 million on Amazon Web Services (AWS) and felt tha...
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  Episode 23 - Getting into IT and Cloud Security 22.11.2022 39мин

  Send a text Demystifying the Security Career Path with Marsha Wilson Episode 23: Show Notes Today we welcome back popular guest Marsha Wilson from ScaleSec, as we unpack some of the particulars about what a career in security requires and can look like. Marsha's wealth of experience and insight are so helpful in answering some of the fundamental questions that aspiring security professionals may have now and a little further down the road too, and in our chat, we get to cover the most imp...
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  Episode 22 - The Effects of Rampant Immaturity in High Tech 16.11.2022 22мин

  Send a text Episode 22: Show Notes ‌ ‌The past week in tech has been eventful, to say the least. FTX declared bankruptcy, Elon Musk is sowing chaos with his latest decisions at Twitter, and David Heinemeier Hansson published a post on his decision to move 37signals off of the cloud. In today’s episode, we take a closer look at the high cost of cloud services and what can be done to make these services more affordable for users. We investigate 37signals’ move away from the cloud, why it was th...
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  Episode 21 - Encouraging Women in Tech and InfoSec specifically 17.10.2022 35мин

  Send a text Women in IT, Cloud Security, and InfoSec with Marsha Wilson Episode 21: Show Notes Welcome back to another episode of Cloud Out Loud! Today we are joined, once again, by Marsha Wilson to discuss the presence of women in IT, cloud security, and InfoSec. Marsha is the CEO of ScaleSec and has had a fascinating career that spans the military and the private sector. Tuning in you’ll hear Marsha’s thoughts on how the field has evolved since she first started out, along with the changes ...
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  Episode 20 - How You Should Manage Security in the Enterprise from Marsha Wilson, CEO ScaleSec 23.09.2022 44мин

  Send a text Diminishing Risk, Increasing Profit, and Reducing Costs Through Security with Marsha Wilson of ScaleSec Episode 20: Show Notes Today we continue with Part 2 in our conversation with Marsha Wilson, CEO of ScaleSec. While the first episode covered Martha's advice to startups on how to create a foundation of security, this episode delves into how to deal with security issues a few years down the line if you didn't follow Martha's advice in the beginning. A lot of the recommendations ...
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  Episode 19 - How You should Manage Security When You're Starting Up from Marsha Wilson, CEO of ScaleSec 07.09.2022 35мин

  Send a text Startup Security Tips from ScaleSec Episode 19: Show Notes If you’re starting up a business in this day and age, cloud security should be your first priority from day one. Having basic security systems in place from the get-go can only have long-term benefits. Joining us today to talk about the importance of good security hygiene in the early stages of starting a business is Marsha Wilson, the CEO of ScaleSec. ScaleSec is a compatriot of long standing in the cloud wars and with he...
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  Episode 18 - The Cloudy Wisdom of Simon Wardley 02.09.2022 19мин

  Send a text Episode 18: Show Notes Recently we’ve seen some big dollar commitments from companies to facilitate their move towards cloud. While we are big fans of cloud and going serverless, there are some key issues with these types of public commitments (with huge sums of money behind them) that bear interrogation. In today’s episode, we consult a Twitter thread by Simon Wardley, a British researcher, and former CEO best known for the creation of Wardley mapping, to help us break down wha...