club 30's with mjfangirl- a Michael Jackson Fan Podcast

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• 73. INTERVIEW- "MICHAEL was my best friend"- Darls Centola talks Friendship, Faith & First LOVE 01.06.2026 53min

  Buy Finding Truth with Michael- https://on.ltk.com/+OXmEG4ldDah8zxyGtkSgfAIn today’s episode we are talking with Darls Centola, author of the brand new book, Finding Truth with Michael. Darls, in her memoir, reveals what it was like to be one of Michael Jackson’s closest friends in the mid-70s. Beyond that, she takes us through her journey of reclaiming her voice after leaving the Jehovah’s Witness religion, adding a whole new layer of depth and meaning to her story.This is one of the most personal and humanizing perspectives on Michael Jackson I’ve ever come across and if you’re a fan who wants to understand him beyond the headlines, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.For additional resources mentioned in this episode, visit: findingtruthwithmichael.com Buy the book- https://amzn.to/3PDg9hP✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.comMichael Jackson, Michael Jackson podcast, Michael Jackson interview, Michael Jackson friend, Darls Centola, Finding Truth with Michael, Finding Truth with Michael book, Michael Jackson memoir, Michael Jackson stories, Michael Jackson behind the scenes, Michael Jackson personal life, Michael Jackson friendships, Michael Jackson human side, Michael Jackson fans, MJ podcast, MJ interview, Michael Jackson legacy, Michael Jackson discussion, Michael Jackson deep dive, Michael Jackson analysis, Michael Jackson untold stories, Michael Jackson truth, Michael Jackson history, Michael Jackson author interview, Darls Centola interview, Finding Truth with Michael review, Michael Jackson book review, MJ books, Michael Jackson community, MJ fangirl, Club 30s podcast, Michael Jackson storytelling, Michael Jackson rare stories, Michael Jackson close friends, Michael Jackson 1970s, Michael Jackson Bad era, Michael Jackson Dangerous era, Jehovahs Witness story, leaving Jehovahs Witness, religious trauma story, memoir interview, author podcast, book podcast, memoir discussion, celebrity memoirs, music history podcast, pop culture podcast
• 72. Michael BIOPIC PART 2 confirmed?! - reshoots & Jaafar Jackson edits REVEALED 14.05.2026 46min

  Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon:   / mjfangirl  Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 71. MICHAEL - the BIOPIC review episode! 28.04.2026 58min

  In this episode, we review the Michael Jackson biopic! Real fan reaction featuring mjfangirl and Randall. We discuss whether the biopic met our expectations, Jaafar Jackson's acting and whether or not he was believable as Michael Jackson in the film, likes and dislikes of the Michael biopic and some of our hopes for part 2. From the choreography to Colman Domingo’s portrayal of Joe Jackson, we’re sharing our unfiltered reactions straight from the theater to help you decide if this is the definitive MJ story. If you are a NEW Michael Jackson fan, please subscribe to this show. I do a lot of content specifically for the Michael Jackson fan community and I would love to have you as a part of the fam here! Michael Biopic Review: Timestamps00:00 - Introduction: Leaving the Theater After ‘Michael’03:45 - Comparison to ‘The Jacksons: An American Dream’ (1992)05:15 - How the Film Humanizes MJ: Vulnerability & Animals08:02 - Film Structure: Pacing, Non-Linear Storytelling & Editing09:44 - Key Career Moments: Motown 25 & The MTV Era11:28 - Jaafar Jackson Performance Review: Did He Capture the Spirit?14:00 - Handling the Controversies15:20 - Colman Domingo as Joe Jackson17:12 - The “Spider-Man Problem”: Skipping Key MJ History19:45 Why was Janet Jackson not in the Michael Jackson movie?24:20 - Easter Eggs for Fans28:30 - Discussion on the Music, Choreography, & Rich + Tone32:15 - The Estate’s Influence: How it Affected the Final Cut40:30 - Favorite Scenes & Favorite Performances45:10 - Audience reactions to Michael biopic54:30 - Will There Be a Sequel or Extended Cut?58:00- Closing Thoughts✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 70. Michael Jackson NEW FAN- what to listen to, watch, read & more in 2026 20.04.2026 58min

  New to Michael Jackson and not sure where to start? 🤍 In this video, I’m joined by good friend Randall and we are breaking down the best things new MJ fans should watch, listen to, and read—from the performances and short films that made him legendary, to the albums that define each era, plus a few must-read picks that help you understand his artistry and impact.Whether you just discovered MJ from the upcoming biopic, a viral clip, or you’ve officially fallen into the rabbit hole… welcome to the fandom. This is your starter pack for experiencing Michael’s work in the most exciting (and not overwhelming) way. ✨Originally recorded in 2024.starter pack recommended items: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblog
• 69. Michael Jackson: What’s REAL vs AI? Tabloid noise? | DEAR FANGIRL 13.04.2026 8min

  New to Michael Jackson and feeling overwhelmed by all the “MJ content” online? You’re not alone. In this episode of **Dear Fan Girl**, we read a letter from a newer fan who’s trying to figure out what’s *real*, what’s *AI*, and what’s just tabloid noise — and we put together a **starter pack of REAL MJ essentials** to help you begin with the best of the best. We’re sharing our must-watch picks for new fans, including **The Legend Continues**, **Bad 25**, the **Off the Wall documentary**, the **Oprah interview**, and the iconic **Private Home Movies** era — plus a few underrated gems and why each one matters. If you’ve been looking for a trusted “start here” list that focuses on Michael’s artistry, humanity, and legacy… this is for you. 🤍 Instagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...⁠Patreon: ⁠  / mjfangirl  ⁠Podcast on Spotify "Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast"Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 68. How ET the Extraterrestrial helped Michael Jackson got his PUBLISHING - full breakdown 07.04.2026 25min

  Michael Jackson got his publishing and masters in an unexpected way. Randall joins me today to discuss
• 67. Michael Jackson BIOPIC news! JAAFAR JACKSON speaks, fan events, & official soundtrack 25.03.2026 1h 10min

  Hey hey! Excited to be back for a brief moment in the middle of my maternity leave to do an in studio episode all about the Michael Jackson biopic with my dad. I am talking about what songs are on the Michael Jackson movie soundtrack, recent Jaafar Jackson interviews, red carpet and fan events PLUS more. We also get into the true stories behind Motown 25, Victory Tour, Bad Tour and more. Comment below if you enjoyed this episode and let me know what city you'll be watching the biopic from! Get Early Access Michael biopic tickets- https://michael.movie/Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 66. Michael Jackson Fans Pick the Most Underrated Song (The Debate Got Heated) with Chris Lacy 23.03.2026 25min

  Michael Jackson has one of the deepest catalogs in music history, which means some incredible songs inevitably get overlooked. So the question is simple… what is Michael Jackson’s most underrated song? In this episode, I’m joined by Chris Lacy for an old-school debate. Neither of us revealed our picks ahead of time, so we’re hearing each other’s arguments for the first time as the conversation unfolds :)We talk about why some Michael Jackson songs fade from public conversation, how music videos and visuals shape the way songs are remembered, and why certain tracks that fans love still don’t get the same recognition as the big singles. We also get into the depth behind both of these songs and whether being on an album like Thriller can actually make a great track more underrated instead of more famous.Now it’s your turn to decide.Who made the stronger case? Or did we both miss the real answer? :)Let us know in the comments what you think is Michael Jackson’s most underrated song. Subscribe for more deep dives, debates, and conversations about Michael Jackson’s music, history, and legacy.0:00 The Debate Begins: Michael Jackson’s Most Underrated Song0:35 The Rules of the Debate1:40 My Pick: Why Its So Underrated3:10 The Music Video Problem11:35 Chris Reveals His Pick17:40 Is Thriller Actually Why It’s Underrated?21:15 The Counter Arguments23:40 You Decide: Which Song Wins?#MichaelJackson #DangerousAlbum #ThrillerAlbum #WhoIsIt #BabyBeMine #KingOfPopJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ New to mjfangirl TV? Start here! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZwj1BhnilMph8JD32Ywn-W&feature=sharedhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZqXOeylKYMgZ_-FwOcM3kP&feature=shared✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 65. Michael Jackson Fans vs. The Victory Tour Ticket System- a look back at what REALLY happened! 16.03.2026 31min

  In this episode, I am joined by Randall! We break down one of the most chaotic and controversial moments in Jacksons history: the Victory Tour ticket fiasco. Long before online ticketing, fans were required to send money orders by mail, only to be met with delays, confusion, missing tickets, and little to no communication. At the time, it sort of turned into a public relations nightmare, leaving thousands of fans frustrated, angry, and demanding answers. This video walks through exactly how the Victory Tour ticket system worked and we talk about current concert ticket sales and more!We also explore how the Jacksons and Michael Jackson approached resolving this issue. If you’ve ever heard whispers about the Victory Tour ticket drama but never understood the full story, this video connects the dots and explains what really happened behind the scenes during one of Michael Jackson’s most talked-about tours.Follow Randall @ therocfiles or for his Lego Work on  @rocsmocs  Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 64. We Tried to Decode Michael Jackson’s Sound… Here’s What We Found 09.03.2026 44min

  What is the classic Michael Jackson sound? It’s a question fans have debated for decades. From “Don’t Stop ’Til You Get Enough” to “Remember the Time,” from “Stranger in Moscow” to “Black or White,” Michael evolved constantly. And yet… somehow, every era still sounds unmistakably like him. In this episode of Club 30s, we’re breaking down the five core elements that make up Michael Jackson’s signature sound, from limitless imagination and relentless refinement to global connection and blockbuster pop. Music writer Chris Lacy joins me as we explore the DNA behind MJ’s music, and we also feature listener voicemail submissions sharing the songs YOU think define his sound.Is it “Billie Jean”? “Earth Song”? “Bad”? Or something unexpected? Join the conversation in the comments: What song represents Michael Jackson’s signature sound to you?Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl 0:00 – What Is Michael Jackson’s Signature Sound?2:05 – The 5 Elements of Michael Jackson’s Music6:20 – “Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’” vs. “Billie Jean” (Fan Picks)11:10 – Why “Earth Song” Defines Michael Jackson14:10 – “Remember the Time” & Monument of Sound18:30 – “Why You Wanna Trip on Me” & MJ’s Darker Themes22:05 – “Don’t Stop ’Til You Get Enough” & Quincy Jones Refinement25:15 – “Stranger in Moscow” & Emotional Isolation29:10 – “Black or White,” “Is It Scary” & MJ’s Global Impact40:30 – Final Verdict: What Makes Michael Jackson Timeless?
• 63. Michael Jackson Tour Merch: Rare Collectibles & Iconic Pieces (with MJ Market) 02.03.2026 1h 1min

  Michael Jackson tour merch wasn’t just a souvenir, it was tour-era branding, fan identity, and collectible history. In this episode, I’m joined by Jonathan, owner of MJ Market, a longtime MJ collector and one of the most trusted names in the space, to break down what makes Michael Jackson tour merch so valuable and fun to look at, decades later.We dig into the pieces collectors actually chase, from tour books/programs and rare city/crew shirts, to the unexpectedly iconic Bad Tour paper cups, and the holy grail category: tour jackets (including VIP/contest-level items). If you’ve ever wanted to start collecting or are just curious about the history of Michael Jackson tour merchandise, this is for you!What we cover:-Why Michael Jackson tour programs and merch quality stood out-Rare stories (including the Wembley “Royal Box” program)-Tour shirts, crew exclusives, and what collectors look for-Tour jackets + VIP-only pieces-How to avoid scams + safer ways to buy online👇 Follow Jonathan / MJ Market on all his platforms and tell him mjfangirl sent you! @michaeljacksonmarket@mjj_collectorsMichaelJacksonmarket.com | 10% OFF at MJ Market: Use code MJFANGIRL at checkout.00:00 – Michael Jackson Tour Merch: The Real History 02:55 – Why Tour Merch Still Feels Emotional Decades Later04:46 – Tour Programs: Jackson 5 → Jacksons → Solo Era 06:44 – Bad Tour Programs: Standard vs Special Editions 08:28 – Rarest Tour Program12:06 – Tour Shirts: City Exclusives + Crew/Staff Pieces16:18 – Bad Tour Paper Cups + Dangerous Plastic Cups19:23 – Tour Jackets: Contest Winners, VIP Dinner Jackets, Photographer Vest23:06 – “Golden Ticket” Merch: Brass Keychains + VIP-Only Items29:02 – Biopic Effect: Why More Rare MJ Merch May Surface33:06 – Biggest Collector Mistake36:42 – Authentic Tour Shirt Clues49:21 – The One Item He’ll Never Sell53:03 – Hardest Find + The One That Got Away58:46 – What’s Coming in 2026 (Trading Cards, Reissues, More)59:06 – Bonus: Bad Tour Japan Pepsi Bottle (Still Fizzy?!)01:00:02 – Follow Jonathan + Where to Shop MJ MarketJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 62. The Side of Michael Jackson’s Neverland You Didn’t See (Big Al’s Untold Stories) 23.02.2026 1h 7min

  In Part 2 of my conversation with Big Al, we continue exploring life inside Neverland Valley Ranch, this time focusing on family events, holidays, touring, and the private moments fans rarely hear about. Big Al shares what Joe Jackson Day was really like behind the scenes, how large family gatherings were managed, and what Christmas at Neverland and charity events looked like when the cameras weren’t around. These stories add another layer to how Neverland functioned, not just as an amusement park, but as a home.Through his memories, we see a more personal side of Michael Jackson - be sure to share and like this video if you enjoyed it!✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon:   / mjfangirl  Podcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 61. I saw Michael Jackson perform LIVE!! my 30th anniversary concert storytime 17.02.2026 29min

  Enjoy this storytime that I recorded a few years back! It's all about me seeing mj live. a lot of people ask, mjfangirl have you ever seen michael jackson live in concert? i did! :)Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ New to mjfangirl TV? Start here! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZwj1BhnilMph8JD32Ywn-W&feature=sharedhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHSYTrP-eQsZqXOeylKYMgZ_-FwOcM3kP&feature=shared✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 60. What Michael Jackson’s Neverland Was REALLY Like — Big Al’s Untold Stories (Part 1) 09.02.2026 47min

  In this episode I am so excited to welcome back Big Al to the show! Big Al was Michael Jackson’s longtime amusement park manager, who worked with him for 15+ years. Today he takes us inside Neverland Valley Ranch and walks through what daily life was really like running Michael’s private amusement park. From opening the gates early in the morning to maintaining rides, trains, and safety systems. You guys also submitted lots of questions, some of which we discussed today (and more coming in part 2) He shares detailed stories about the layout of the ranch, the steam train, Michael’s favorite rides, and how events were carefully planned so everyone experienced every part of Neverland. The conversation also moves into personal moments that reveal Michael Jackson away from the stage. Big Al recounts being gifted one of Michael’s fedoras, driving him and his children to Thanksgiving dinner, being invited to share the holiday meal, and later receiving a custom Santa Claus suit made just for him. Stay tuned for PART 2, dropping next week!TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Welcome to Michael Jackson’s Neverland01:05 – Big Al- Manager of Michael Jackson’s Amusement Park01:30 – “Michael Jackson Gave Me His Hat”03:30 – Why Michael Jackson’s Neverland Was Different05:30 – A “Normal” Day at Michael Jackson’s Neverland07:10 – How Michael Jackson Planned Days for Sick Kids08:50 – Why Michael Jackson Didn’t Play His Own Music 09:30 – Big Al’s Thanksgiving Call From Michael Jackson16:10 – How Neverland Ran Without Michael Jackson20:00 – Michael Jackson’s Favorite Neverland Rides28:00 – “This Will Be Michael Jackson’s Biggest Christmas”36:45 – Michael Jackson Has a Santa Suit Made for Big Al45:30 – Big Al on the Michael Jackson Moments That LastedJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 59. Michael Jackson BIOPIC Movie Trailer 2026 — Emotional First Reaction!!!!! 06.02.2026 32min

  The Michael Jackson movie trailer is finally here, and in this video, Randall and I are reacting to it live for the very first time! Rather than just an emotional watch-through, we slow it down and take a closer, more intentional look from our longtime fan perspective, breaking down scene choices, visual cues, tone, symbolism, and what the filmmakers seem to be signaling about Michael’s story. Watch along with us, and let’s break it down together!!!Check out Randalls video mix - Michael Jackson, Clipse, Tyler, the Creator - P.O.V. (Video Mix)youtube.com/watch?si=WGOkCuXTI7WRvtC2&v=CMP6yeW9wL0&feature=youtu.be Join our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl ✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 58. Michael Jackson’s Choreographer Travis Payne: Dangerous, HIStory, Ghosts & This Is It 25.01.2026 1h 27min

  For nearly 20 years, choreographer and creative partner Travis Payne worked alongside Michael Jackson-- from the Dangerous era and HIStory Tour, to Ghosts, Scream, and This Is It.In this episode of Club 30s with mjfangirl, I’m joined by Randall (therocfiles / rocsmocs.com ) for a deep-dive conversation with Travis about the creativity, collaboration, and precision behind some of Michael’s most ambitious work. Travis shares what it was really like collaborating with Michael on set and on tour, how Ghosts evolved through multiple versions, and what fans never saw behind the scenes while building massive productions around the world. We also discuss Michael’s rehearsals, global and street-dance influences (including the Bankhead Bounce), and the reality of bringing MJ’s vision to life.Follow Travis Payne:Website: travispayne.comInstagram: @travispayne1Listen to Club 30s with MJFANGIRL:Spotify / Apple Podcasts / Amazon MusicJoin the community (Club 30’s / Patreon):patreon.com/mjfangirlConnect with mjfangirl:Business inquiries: hello@mjfangirl.comSocial: @mjfangirlblogCHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS00:00:00 - Intro: MJfangirl + Randall welcome Travis Payne (Michael Jackson creative partner)00:01:01 - Travis Payne credits: Michael Jackson (Dangerous, HIStory, Ghosts, Scream, This Is It)00:02:57 - Travis Payne origin story: Atlanta dance training00:04:03 - Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation Tour00:09:48 - Travis Payne on mentoring young dancers00:14:37 - Travis Payne’s inspirations (Bob Fosse, Alvin Ailey, Debbie Allen + more)00:15:34 - Michael Jackson influence on showmanship00:18:31 - First time working with Michael Jackson00:20:44 - Joining Michael Jackson’s Dangerous Tour00:26:50 - “Dangerous” performance: film references + building MJ’s live cinematic world00:28:37 - Michael Jackson “Dangerous” at Soul Train Awards: why it was full-circle00:32:33 - Michael Jackson rehearsal standard00:33:15 - Bankhead Bounce in “Dangerous”: hip-hop dance + Atlanta culture in MJ choreography00:38:01 - Divine Nine stepping + “Global Dance”00:40:26 - Michael Jackson “Ghosts” era: creative process + early concepts00:41:45 - “Ghosts” filmmaking detail: the “dust” took days to perfect00:44:01 - Why “Ghosts” was ahead of its time (Thriller legacy + Stan Winston + tech)00:54:43 - HIStory Tour logistics: Kingdom Air planes + more01:02:21 - Michael Jackson “Scream” behind the scenes: MJ + Janet collaboration01:13:00 - MJ Immortal / ONE / Michael Jackson: The Experience
• 57. Michael Jackson and Hip Hop: Culture, Credibility, and Collision 12.01.2026 1h 18min

  In this episode of mjfangirl, we dive into a conversation I have been wanting to have for a long time about Michael Jackson and hip hop culture. As hip hop rose from the streets to become the dominant voice of Black youth culture, Michael Jackson had to navigate a world that suddenly valued authenticity, edge, and credibility in ways pop music never had before. This episode explores what happened when the King of Pop met a culture that did not automatically bow to pop royalty.Joined by voices from the Black Jackson Estate Podcast- Ashleigh, and Nikki, along with Randall, and Chris Lacy, we break down how that cultural shift reshaped Michael’s career. We talk through the transition from Thriller to Bad, the New Jack Swing era of Dangerous, and the more experimental and often misunderstood HIStory and Invincible years. The conversation asks whether Michael was embracing hip hop, adapting under pressure, or being actively tested by a culture that had changed the rules.We explore Michael’s real relationships with hip hop artists like Biggie Smalls, Heavy D, Wreckx-N-Effect, Eve, and others, as well as collaborations that almost happened, including Lil’ Kim and Pharrell. We unpack behind the scenes stories from Rodney Jerkins, Michael’s admiration for Biggie and 50 Cent, and why songs like Unbreakable and This Time Around still spark debate decades later. We also examine James Brown’s influence, beatboxing, dance, and the street culture that shaped Michael’s creative evolution. If you have ever wondered where Michael Jackson truly fits in hip hop history, this episode is for you.ROUNDTABLE MEMBERS: Black Jackson Estate  @theblackjacksonestatepodcast  https://www.patreon.com/c/theblackjacksonestate/Chris Lacy : https://chrislacy1990.medium.com @ chrislacy1990Randall - @ therocfiles /  @rocsmocs  #HipHop #NotoriousBIG #michaeljackson TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Michael Jackson & Hip Hop: Why This Conversation Matters02:26 – Personal Hip Hop Origins (NYC, Atlanta, The South)05:32 – From Thriller to Bad: Cultural Pressure on Michael Jackson06:59 – Quincy Jones, Rap Skepticism & the “Hip Hop Is a Fad” Debate09:23 – James Brown, Beatboxing & MJ’s Hip Hop DNA10:27 – New Jack Swing & Dangerous Falling Between Eras11:47 – Run-DMC, LL Cool J & Hip Hop Challenging MJ’s Image14:59 – Dangerous Era Collaborations (Heavy D, Wreckx-N-Effect)18:31 – HIStory Era: “We’re Still on the Same Track”22:22 – Michael, Janet & Biggie at the VMAs23:20 – Michael Jackson on Hip Hop (VIBE 2001 Interview)27:25 – Listener Voicemails: Favorite MJ Hip Hop Collaborations31:35 – Notorious BIG on Invincible & Unbreakable34:15 – Was Biggie’s Verse “Never Heard Before”?38:22 – Biggie’s Bars on MJ Songs (Lyric Breakdown)42:00 – The Lil’ Kim Collaboration That Never Happened46:10 – Pharrell, The Neptunes & “Super Thug”49:41 – Could Michael Have Pulled Off Neptunes Beats?54:55 – Michael & Hip Hop Dance56:20 – The Moonwalk Debate1:08:30 – Final TakeawaysJoin our community of Michael Jackson fans at Club 30's https://www.patreon.com/mjfangirl
• 56. How REAL Michael Jackson Collections Are Built (Autographs & Rarities) featuring Michael Jackson Market 24.12.2025 57min

  this is an older episode but worth listening to, as it was a previous Youtube only episode! Today we have an exclusive interview with one of the most trusted names in Michael Jackson collecting.In this video, I sit down with Jonathan, owner of MJ Market, to go inside the world of Michael Jackson memorabilia, from rare collectibles to the hard truth about autograph authenticity.We break down how serious collectors authenticate Michael Jackson autographs, what separates real memorabilia from fakes, and why certain items hold long-term value while others don’t. Jonathan shares real-world experience from the collector market, including common mistakes fans make and what to look for before spending serious money.Whether you’re just starting your collection or already deep in the hobby, this conversation will help you collect smarter, avoid costly errors, and understand what truly makes Michael Jackson memorabilia valuable.Visit michaeljacksonmarket.com and get money off your first order using code MJFANGIRL . Instagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirl...Patreon:   / mjfangirl  Podcast on Spotify "Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast"Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 55. Michael Jackson: Fact, Fiction, and the Myths That Won’t Die, with Elizabeth Amisu 16.12.2025 55min

  Michael Jackson is one of the most misunderstood artists in history. In this episode, MJ scholar Elizabeth Amisu joins mjfangirl to help separate fact from decades of myths about his songwriting, dancing, business decisions, and creative genius.Michael Jackson ACADEMIC STUDIES COURSES with Elizabeth Amisu: https://onlineartseducation.co.uk/course/dangerous-philosophies-of-michael-jackson-online-course/https://elizabethamisu.com/From claims that Michael didn’t write his own music, to the idea that others created his sound, to persistent misunderstandings about the moonwalk, Thriller, and his role as a businessman, this conversation takes a closer look at what’s actually true (and why so many myths continue to circulate today)!Elizabeth Amisu, author of The Dangerous Philosophies of Michael Jackson, brings an academic lens to Michael’s creative process, musicianship, choreography, and legacy. Together, we examine how tabloid narratives, oversimplification, and cultural bias have shaped public perception, often overshadowing Michael’s innovation, discipline, and artistic intelligence.This episode also explores why Thriller was not an overnight success, how Michael approached songwriting and arrangement, the difference between inventing and popularizing dance moves, and why his business decisions including music publishing, changed the industry forever.With the upcoming Michael Jackson biopic bringing renewed attention to his life and work, this is the perfect moment to revisit the facts, challenge long-held assumptions, and understand Michael Jackson beyond the myths.TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Why Michael Jackson is so misunderstood01:18 – Separating fact from decades of MJ myths04:32 – “Michael Jackson didn’t write his own songs” - DEBUNKED08:42 – Solomon’s firsthand story recording “Can You Feel It” with Michael11:15 – Did Quincy Jones create Michael Jackson's sound?22:15 – Musicianship without reading music26:40 – The moonwalk: invention vs. popularization28:55 – Why that Motown 25 moment changed everything30:00 – Michael Jackson Academic Courses35:05 – How Michael strategically built Thriller’s legacy45:00 – The Beatles catalog myth51:30 – The biopic and Michael’s lasting legacy✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com
• 54. Michael Jackson Dancer & BODY DOUBLE Ricko Baird REVEALS the TRUTH on You Rock My World & More 29.11.2025 59min

  In this episode of Club 30s with mjfangirl, we’re going behind the scenes with Ricko Baird, one of the select dancers who worked closest with Michael Jackson — including serving as MJ’s body double in You Rock My World and performing with him in the Michael Jackson & Friends shows. Ricko opens up about the shocking truth behind moments fans have never heard about before: being chosen out of more than 3,000 dancers to perform with Michael, what really happened during the Earth Song bridge collapse, how the choreography for You Rock My World changed on set, and which moments weren’t actually Michael on camera. He also talks about the intensity Michael brought to rehearsals, the experience of becoming “Adult MJ” in Thriller Live, and how all of these experiences shaped his transition into creating his own music today. If you love Michael Jackson, behind-the-scenes stories, early-2000s short films, or rare insights from the dancers who helped bring MJ’s visions to life, this interview is packed with details you won’t want to miss.Make sure to check out Ricko’s music at rickobaird.com and support his independent artistry. Follow him on Facebook at Ricko Baird and Instagram @ricko_baird TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Introduction: Who is Ricko Baird?02:24 — Early Life, Training & Becoming a Professional Dancer04:09 — Landing His First Big Jobs & Moving to L.A.05:00 — The Nerve-wracking Day Michael Jackson Walked Into Rehearsal07:14 — Dancing Right Beside Michael Jackson08:12 — Auditioning for Michael Jackson & Friends 09:58 — Traveling with MJ: Seoul, Munich & Experiencing MJ Mania11:26 — Dangerous Live Clip Reaction & The Iconic “Flip” Moment13:30 — What Michael Was Like in Rehearsal vs. Onstage15:00 — Backstage at MJ Shows: Focus, Intensity & Perfection17:20 — Earth Song, The Bridge Collapse & What Really Happened19:10 — The Aftermath: Was Michael Hurt? What Did the Crew Do?25:44 — You Rock My World: How Ricko Got the Call27:30 — On Set with MJ, Chris Tucker & Marlon Brando29:36 — The Dance Sequence: What Got Cut & What Fans Never Saw32:31 — Ricko Reveals When He Was MJ’s Body Double36:00 — The Movement Study: Matching Michael’s Style Perfectly39:02 — Becoming “Adult Michael” in Thriller Live41:50 — Touring the World as Michael in London & International Shows46:00 — Ricko’s Transition Into a Solo Recording Artist48:00 — Inside His Album Frequency & the Vision Behind the Music50:00 — Music Video “Believe” Clip + Creative Process54:00 — Ricko Baird's Music53:15 — One Michael Jackson Moment Fans Would Be Shocked to Know56:25 — Final Thoughts + Where to Follow Ricko Baird✩ SHOP MY FAVORITE Michael Jackson PRODUCTS & MUST- HAVES! https://www.youtube.com/@MJFANGIRLTV/store✩ Contact & SocialsInstagram, facebook, twitter @mjfangirlblogMy amazon storefont: https://www.amazon.com/shop/mjfangirlblogPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/MjfangirlPodcast on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music: “Club 30s with MJFANGIRL- a Michael Jackson podcast”Business Inquiries - hello@mjfangirl.com