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Circle Launched Its Own Blockchain. What Happens to Ethereum? | Markets Outlook 16.09.2026 20minNikhil Chandhok, Chief Technology and Product Officer at Circle, joins CoinDesk Contributor Kate Irwin on Markets Outlook the day Arc mainnet goes live. Chandhok explains why gas on Arc is USDC and not a native token, how opt-in privacy works, why BlackRock and Visa signed on as validators, and what changes for institutions when GENIUS rules take effect in January. Plus, Beezie Founder and CEO Andrea Miele on why tokenized luxury goods are the next frontier for provenance and liquidity. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Nikhil Chandhok Joins Markets Outlook 00:59 - CLARITY Failed. Why GENIUS Is Circle's Guiding Light 02:37 - Circle Announces Arc Mainnet 03:00 - How Opt-In Privacy Works on Arc 04:35 - Why Gas Is USDC and Not a Native Token 06:52 - Will AI Agents Take Over Onchain Activity? 10:10 - Brand New Rails: Tokenized Luxury with Beezie 13:11 - Why BlackRock and Visa Signed On as Validators 15:20 - DeFi on Arc: Aave, Morpho and Uniswap 16:43 - The Biggest Challenge Facing Institutions 18:45 - Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Why Circle Isn't Bearish -
Senate Votes on Crypto's Clarity Act as Bitcoin Slides | CoinDesk Daily 15.09.2026 1minThe CLARITY Act comes down to a procedural vote. The U.S. Senate votes today on whether to advance the Clarity Act, crypto's market structure bill. A pass moves the industry closer to its first clear U.S. rules, while a failure would likely shelve the effort until after the November midterms. Bitcoin slipped to below $77,000 as Polymarket odds on the bill faded. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
Should You Bet on AI or Crypto? Plus, the SEC’s Tokenized Stock Overhaul 14.09.2026 21minOn this episode of CoinDesk's Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, host Jennifer Sanasie is joined by Ram Ahluwalia, CEO and Founder of Lumida, who makes a non-consensus case that the Fed will hold rather than hike at its September meeting, and argues that AI has more room to run than crypto as capital rotates between the two. Then Joris Delanoue, CEO of Fairmint, breaks down the SEC's proposed overhaul of transfer-agent rules, the first in decades, which could let a blockchain serve as the official record of securities ownership. He unpacks the three models of tokenized equities, the AMC–Robinhood stock-token dispute, and why a single source of truth matters for the issuer-shareholder relationship. Plus, a look at ETF flows, with bitcoin ETFs posting their worst week since July and ether ETFs drawing net inflows. - Learn more at bullish.com. - Register now for CoinDesk's Policy and Regulation event on September 22, 2026: policy-regulation.coindesk.com. - To get market-moving news delivered daily, download CoinDesk's mobile app: linktr.ee/coindeskapp. - Chapters/Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to Public Keys 00:21 Crypto Green as AI Stocks Sell Off, Oil Tops $100 00:47 Lumida's Ram Ahluwalia on the Macro Picture 01:23 The Non-Consensus Call: No Rate Hike Coming 03:26 Anthropic's Coming S1 and the AI "Nothing Burger" 04:46 Why AI Has More Room to Run Than Crypto 06:58 Tokenization, DeFi, and the CLARITY Act 08:30 Ahluwalia's Top AI Plays and Midterm Positioning 10:27 SEC Proposes Biggest Transfer-Agent Overhaul in Decades 10:42 Fairmint's Joris Delanoue Joins 11:41 The Tokenization Paper-Crisis Parallel 12:43 Three Models of Tokenized Equities 15:17 The AMC–Robinhood Fight Over Stock Tokens 16:19 Fixing the Issuer-Shareholder Disconnect 18:38 Educating CEOs on What Tokenization Unlocks 20:31 ETF Flows: BTC Bleeds $463M, ETH Gains $197M -
Trump Agrees to Stricter Ethics Rules to Save the Clarity Act: Report | CoinDesk Daily 14.09.2026 1minTrump agrees to stricter ethics rules for CLARITY Act. President Trump agreed to about 80% of a stricter ethics package tied to the Clarity Act, clearing a path for a Senate cloture vote Tuesday. The deal lets state attorneys general enforce the law and forces elected officials, spouses, and federal judges to divest or blind-trust any significant crypto stake. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
Kalshi Wants 24/7 Perps on Tesla, Apple & Nvidia | CoinDesk Daily 11.09.2026 1minKalshi wants 24/7 Tesla, Apple, and Nvidia perps. Kalshi is seeking approval for roughly 60 perpetual futures tied to individual stocks and ETFs, including Tesla, Apple, and Nvidia — which would be the first regulated single-stock perps in the U.S. The plan is already igniting a fight over whether the CFTC or SEC should regulate them. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
CLARITY Act on “Death Watch”: Can Crypto’s Biggest Bill Survive? 11.09.2026 28minCoinDesk's The Policy Protocol hosts Rebecca Rettig and Renato Mariotti open on the AMC–Robinhood tokenization showdown playing out on X and "CLARITY Act death watch," before sitting down with Cody Carbone, CEO of the Digital Chamber. Carbone argues the bill's fate comes down to ethics and that the White House and President Trump himself will have to weigh in publicly on the Tillis–Gallego ethics proposal to get to 60 votes. He also lays out the contingency plan if CLARITY stalls and breaks down the Digital Chamber's lawsuit against Illinois' new crypto tax. Plus, Rebecca and Renato debrief on why spot-market authority survives even if CLARITY doesn't, and name LeBron James, and the wave of celebrity prediction-market deals, as their Person of the Week. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - Register now for CoinDesk's Policy and Regulation event on September 22, 2026: policy-regulation.coindesk.com. - Chapters/Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol 02:54 The AMC–Robinhood Tokenization Showdown 05:18 Can AMC Actually Sue? Renato's Litigation Read 07:41 CLARITY Act Death Watch 10:15 Why Reg Crypto Isn't Enough Without Market Structure 11:06 Cody Carbone, CEO of the Digital Chamber Joins 12:03 Ethics, Ethics, Ethics: Will the White House Weigh In? 15:25 What Happens to Crypto Policy if Clarity Fails? 17:42 Federal Preemption and the Illinois Crypto Tax Fight 20:51 The Convergence of TradFi and Digital Finance 23:32 Rebecca and Renato Debrief on Spot Authority 24:37 Person of the Week: LeBron James and Prediction Markets -
Is Bitcoin on the Verge of Its Biggest Bull Run? | Markets Outlook 10.09.2026 22minRan Neuner, Founder of Crypto Banter, joins Coindesk’s Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook with charts in hand to explain why Bitcoin's pullback from $82K is textbook post-golden-cross behavior, and why he thinks the real story is what comes next. Neuner breaks down Scott Bessent's Treasury buybacks as the engine of the rally, why ETH just broke a nine-year downtrend against Bitcoin, and why he's rotating out of layer ones and into apps with real users and revenue. Plus, Energy Substantiation Co-Founder Wil Harris joins Brand New Rails to explain why hard-to-custody assets, like oil, are tokenization's real frontier. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Ran Neuner Joins Markets Outlook 00:45 - The Golden Cross and Bitcoin's Pullback 02:31 - Bessent's Buybacks and Why $6B Disappointed the Market 03:56 - Oil, the War, and Trump's $1.4T Stimulus Promise 06:47 - Brand New Rails: Tokenized WTI Crude Oil 09:37 - "Crypto's Biggest Bull Market Ever" 11:33 - ETH Breaks a Nine-Year Downtrend Against Bitcoin 14:03 - Altcoins to 7X Bitcoin? Crypto's Product Market Fit 18:02 - Why AI Agents Are Crypto's Real Use Case 19:54 - What Makes an Altcoin Win: Users, Revenue, Buybacks -
Nasdaq Invests $100M in Kraken Parent Payward 10.09.2026 5minNasdaq's Ventures invested $100 million in Payward, the parent company of crypto exchange Kraken. Payward Chief Commercial Officer Mark Greenberg joins Jennifer Sanasie to explain what the deal unlocks: from bringing Nasdaq's traditional equities on-chain as permissioned tokens, to new collaborations on market surveillance, data, and expanding xStocks to more markets. Plus, insights into Kraken's shift from a crypto-only exchange to a multi-asset platform and the company's 2027 IPO timeline. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. -
AMC Slams Robinhood's Approach To Tokenized Stocks: Why Kraken and Bullish Are Betting Big Anyway 09.09.2026 30minOn this episode of CoinDesk's Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, host Jennifer Sanasie is joined by special guest co-host Ophelia Snyder, Co-Founder of 21Shares. Payward Chief Commercial Officer Mark Greenberg breaks down Kraken parent Payward's new partnerships with SoFi and the London Stock Exchange, and how xStocks is bringing tokenized equities and 24/7 markets to investors around the world. Bullish Exchange President Chris Tyrer unpacks Bullish's $4.2 billion acquisition of transfer agent Equiniti, its first tokenized-share trades on a GFSC-regulated venue, and the competing models shaping the future of tokenized stocks. Plus, Sanasie and Snyder break down another billion-dollar week for Bitcoin and Ethereum ETFs and what shifting macro conditions could mean for crypto. - Learn more at bullish.com. - Register now for CoinDesk's Policy and Regulation event on September 22, 2026: policy-regulation.coindesk.com. - To get market-moving news delivered daily, download CoinDesk's mobile app: linktr.ee/coindeskapp. - Chapters/Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to Public Keys 00:40 Has the Mood Shifted on the Clarity Act? 03:32 The ColdCard Hack and the Case for Intermediaries 05:26 Payward's Mark Greenberg Joins 05:47 Inside the London Stock Exchange xStocks Deal 07:11 Will xStocks Come to the US? 08:41 The AMC-Robinhood Tokenized Stock Spat 09:57 Why Issuers Should Embrace Tokenized Equities 11:13 Nasdaq Equity Tokens and Yield on xStocks 13:20 Bullish's Chris Tyrer on the $4.2B Equiniti Deal 14:23 The Three Models of Tokenized Equity 15:10 Who Owns Your Stock? Cede & Co. and Issuer Visibility 17:51 Tokenization as the Next Mega Trend 19:31 Turning Shareholders Into Members 21:31 Tokenization, NFTs, and the Governance Problem 24:28 Another $1.2B Week for BTC and ETH ETFs 25:04 Reading the Flows: Macro and a Bitcoin Regime 27:47 Alt Flows and the First US Staked TRON ETF -
Anthropic Researcher Warns AI Could Kill Us All After Quitting | CoinDesk Daily 09.09.2026 1minAn Anthropic researcher warns AI could kill us all. A researcher who spent three years on pretraining at OpenAI and Anthropic resigned with a warning that the labs are racing toward self-improving superintelligence that could kill everyone by the end of the decade. Anthropic's own alignment lead put the odds above 10%. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
Hunter Biden Is Launching a Memecoin | CoinDesk Daily 08.09.2026 1minHunter Biden is launching a LAPTOP memecoin. Hunter Biden is launching a memecoin called LAPTOP on Base, named after the laptop he left at a Delaware repair shop in 2019. Founders get 30% of the 1 billion supply, and part of the airdrop targets wallets underwater on the TRUMP token. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
Zcash Hits $1,000 as Short Sellers Lose $34 Million | CoinDesk Daily 04.09.2026 1minZcash jumps above $1,000. Zcash surged around 20% to $1,000, nearly doubling in a month and liquidating $34.5 million in short positions. A new Grayscale spot ETF is helping fuel the privacy coin's run. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
$1.3 Million Bitcoin Will Be “Relatively Easy,” Says Bitwise’s Matt Hougan | Markets Outlook 03.09.2026 15minMatt Hougan, Chief Investment Officer of Bitwise Asset Management, joins Jennifer Sanasie for a special edition of Markets Outlook from the New York Stock Exchange to unpack the market's overnight flip from despair to euphoria. Hougan explains why a traditional 60/40 portfolio is "100% fiat currency," why holding 0% Bitcoin has become a misallocation, and where he's allocating now. Plus, why he gives Bitcoin a good chance of reclaiming $100K this year and sees $1.3 million by 2035. Stellar Development Foundation CEO Denelle Dixon also joins to unpack Stellar crossing $4 billion in tokenized real-world assets, a 400% jump since January. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Matt Hougan Joins Markets Outlook 00:45 - Despair to Euphoria: What Flipped the Market 03:20 - AI Stocks vs. Bitcoin 05:49 - Brand New Rails: Stellar Crosses $4B in Tokenized RWAs 08:05 - Bitcoin, Zcash, and the Tokenization Trade 14:15 - Matt's Bitcoin Price Prediction This Year and By 2035 - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. -
The Malware That Hijacked Crypto Payments for 8 Years | CoinDesk Daily 03.09.2026 1minThe copy-paste hack that stole $150K. CrowdStrike and federal authorities dismantled Sality, a botnet that spent eight years swapping copied wallet addresses for the attacker's, so victims unknowingly sent crypto to a stranger. The fix is simple: check the first and last characters of any address after you paste it. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
Tether Sued for Allegedly Freezing $42M Before a Warrant 02.09.2026 2minTether faces lawsuit for allegedly freezing $42M USDT before a warrant. Two Thai businessmen are suing Tether, alleging it froze 42.4 million USDT months before U.S. authorities obtained a seizure warrant. Tether calls the lawsuit baseless, but it raises the question of whether the issuer can freeze tokens in private wallets before any legal process. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
Coinbase Tokenized Stocks Hit $100M in Volume; First Zcash ETF and Strategy Yield Goes DeFi 02.09.2026 27minOn this episode of CoinDesk's Public Keys from the New York Stock Exchange, host Jennifer Sanasie is joined by Ben Spiegelman, Head of Institutional at Base, to break down Coinbase's newly launched tokenized stocks. Zach Pandl, Head of Research at Grayscale, unpacks the debut of the first-ever Zcash ETF. Plus, Solstice CEO Ben Nadareski explains strcUSX, a Solana-based product that splits the economics of Strategy's STRC preferred into senior and junior tranches. - Learn more at bullish.com. - Register now for CoinDesk's Policy and Regulation event on September 22, 2026: policy-regulation.coindesk.com. - To get market-moving news delivered daily, download CoinDesk's mobile app: linktr.ee/coindeskapp. - Chapters/Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to Public Keys 00:24 Coinbase Brings Tokenized Stocks to Base 00:44 Base's Ben Spiegelman Joins Public Keys 01:02 What Makes Coinbase's Tokenized Stocks Different 03:26 The Killer DeFi Use Case: Borrowing Against Your Stocks 04:11 The CLARITY Act and a Future US Launch 05:24 Trading, Financing, and Payments on Base 07:04 What Still Gives Institutions Pause On-Chain 09:15 ETF Flows: Bitcoin and Ether Cool After a Record August 10:04 Grayscale's Zach Pandl on a Healing Crypto Market 11:13 What Happens If the CLARITY Act Doesn't Pass 12:18 'Recktember' and the Q4 Bitcoin Outlook 13:42 The First-Ever Zcash ETF and the Privacy Thesis 15:47 Scarcity vs. Privacy: What's Driving Zcash 17:10 Institutional vs. Retail Demand for the Zcash ETF 19:04 Solstice's Ben Nadareski and Strategy's STRC on Solana 20:38 Inside strcUSX: Senior and Junior Tranches 21:40 Building on Strategy's Platform 23:19 Why Solstice Built on Solana 25:30 The Institutional DeFi Adoption Curve -
North Korea Is Cashing Out Bitcoin on Hyperliquid | CoinDesk Daily 01.09.2026 1minNorth Korean hackers cashed out Bitcoin from Hyperliquid. North Korea's Lazarus Group has sold more than $30 million in bitcoin on Hyperliquid over the past three weeks, according to blockchain data reviewed by Arkham. The activity comes just as the Trump administration explores bringing the platform onshore. CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode is brought to you by Grayscale, the world's largest digital asset-focused investment platform. Grayscale's mission is to make digital asset investing simple and open to every investor. Learn more at grayscale.com. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
Bitcoin Slides After Kevin Warsh's First Jackson Hole Speech | CoinDesk Daily 28.08.2026 1minHow did Bitcoin react to Fed Chair Kevin Warsh's first Jackson Hole speech? Federal Reserve Chair Kevin Warsh delivers his first Jackson Hole keynote today, and crypto traders are watching for whether the Fed will back the Treasury's plan to cap long-term borrowing costs. Bitcoin has climbed from $64,000 to $80,000 in a week on those expectations — a dovish signal could extend the rally, while a push for Fed independence could send it lower. CoinDesk's Uyen Truong hosts "CoinDesk Daily." - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - This episode was hosted by Uyen Truong. “CoinDesk Daily” is produced by Jennifer Sanasie and edited by Victor Chen. -
Can You Regulate a Machine? Walt Lukken on the CFTC's Innovation Committee 28.08.2026 18minCoinDesk's The Policy Protocol host Renato Mariotti takes a deep dive into the CFTC's inaugural Innovation Advisory Committee. Renato breaks down the viral, spicy exchange between CME Group CEO Terry Duffy and CFTC Chairman Michael Selig over event contracts and market manipulation, and introduces his own comment-letter concept "accountability arbitrage" that focuses on the enforcement gap that opens up when an AI agent authors a trading strategy. He then sits down with the committee's chair, Walt Lukken, President and CEO of the Futures Industry Association and a former acting CFTC chairman, who explains why Chairman Selig stood up the committee, how FIA is welcoming retail-first and formerly-offshore entrants while holding the line on customer protections, and why the hardest open question in the room was how to hold a machine accountable. - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. Find out more at realfi.co. - Register now for CoinDesk's Policy and Regulation event on September 22, 2026: policy-regulation.coindesk.com. - Chapters: 00:00 Welcome to The Policy Protocol 01:15 The Story of the Week: The CFTC's Innovation Advisory Committee 01:50 The Viral Clip: Duffy vs. Selig on Event Contracts 02:45 A Fight Playing Out in the CME–CFTC Lawsuit 03:19 A Titanic Shift: TradFi Meets Blockchain 03:59 The Real Frontier: Agentic Finance 04:34 Accountability Arbitrage and Agentic Trading 06:33 Walt Lukken Joins the Show 07:00 Why Chairman Selig Built the Committee 08:21 FIA's Big Tent: Offshore to Onshore 09:49 Futures, Crypto and Prediction Markets Converge 11:43 Letting the Disagreements Be Aired 13:14 The AI Session: Holding a Machine Accountable 15:23 A Good First Year and the Tokenization Push 17:14 Renato's Debrief: A Working Committee -
Are AI Chips the New Crypto Trade? | Markets Outlook 27.08.2026 18minPierre Rochard, CEO of The Bitcoin Bond Company, joins Jennifer Sanasie on Markets Outlook to unpack the narratives driving crypto markets heading into Q4. From his 80K year-end price target to his rebuttal of Mark Cuban's "chips are the new crypto" take, Pierre breaks down why Bitcoin's scarcity story remains intact and why miners pivoting to AI could actually be a tailwind for Bitcoin price. Plus, Bullish's new Head of Tokenization joins to unpack what it means to be the first regulated exchange to trade tokenized equity. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Pierre Rochard Joins Markets Outlook 00:56 - Watching the Fed and Treasury 02:14 - Pierre’s Bitcoin Price Target 02:24 - Responding to Mark Cuban: Chips vs. Bitcoin 06:01 - Why Cuban May Have Latched Onto the Wrong Narrative 07:25 - Will Retail Come Back to Bitcoin? 09:24 - Brand New Rails: Bullish Launches Tokenized Equity Trading 12:02 - Self-Custody vs. Exchanges Post-ColdCard 13:42 - The Best Ways to Get Bitcoin Exposure 15:32 - Bitcoin Miners Pivoting to AI 17:21 - Why Miners Leaving Is Actually Bullish for Bitcoin - This episode is brought to you by RealFi, a smarter stablecoin, backed by real-world assets. RealFi is launching August 2026. Join the Testnet now at realfi.co. - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.
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