I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin
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After 25 years working in homicide, former Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin is sitting down across the interview room table from cops, crims, addicts, victims, small-time cheats and big-town lawyers, asking them to share their stories.
One of the country’s most successful podcasts, I Catch Killers reveals the reality of life and death inside the justice system. Gary talks about the big things with an open mind - good and evil, hope and suffering, joy, tragedy - and redemption.
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‘They told me Celeste’s death wouldn't be in vain. So far, it has been’: Aggie Di Mauro Pt. 2 01.06.2026 56minWhat’s been done in the 5 and half years since 23 year old Celeste Manno was brutally murdered in her bedroom by a man she barely knew? According to Celeste’s mum, Aggie Di Mauro, not much. In part two of Aggie’s chat with Gary, Aggie lays out in forensic detail why the Victorian Government's response to the Victorian Law Reform Commission's 45 stalking recommendations has been nothing but "lip service." Aggie makes a compelling case for the mandatory electronic monitoring of stalkers who breach intervention orders, dismantling every official excuse offered against it, and exposes the dangerous gap in Victoria's justice system where stalking charges are routinely pleaded down to lesser offences.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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'My daughter’s murder could’ve been prevented’: Aggie Di Mauro Pt. 1 30.05.2026 59minWhen 23-year-old Celeste Manno was brutally murdered in her own bedroom in November 2020, her mother Aggie knew it could have been prevented. A former coworker had stalked and harassed Celeste for over a year, and the warning signs were everywhere. Police were told. Courts were involved. Intervention orders were issued. Somehow, none of it was enough. In this episode of I Catch Killers, Aggie Di Mauro exposes the catastrophic system failures that preceded Celeste's murder, a justice system she believes let her daughter down, and the fight for a coronial inquest that five and a half years later still hasn't happened.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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When the prison gates open: Tahlia Isaac Pt. 2 25.05.2026 1h 6minBeing locked up in prison is hard - but often the real test comes when you're released. In part 2 of this discussion, Tahlia Isaac takes Gary inside the raw reality of life in a women's maximum-security facility: 22-hour lockdowns, mothers crying for children they can't reach, Aboriginal matriarchs ripped from their communities, and women imprisoned for nothing more than driving without a licence. Then comes the moment when the doors swing open…to no money, support, or protection. Tahlia argues that the system doesn't need fixing, it needs to be completely torn down and rebuilt, which is exactly what she’s trying to do now through her charity Project:herSELF. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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‘I probably needed to go to prison’: Tahlia Isaac Pt. 1 23.05.2026 56minTahlia Isaac sat in a watch house, facing serious criminal charges, with no phone, no money, and a face beaten by her abusive partner. Her lawyer told her she was going to prison. So she set her life on fire. After using drugs recreationally as a teenager, Tahlia quickly fell into a spiral of addiction, toxic relationships, drug dealing, and serious criminal charges. But that's only half the story. In this episode of I Catch Killers, Tahlia challenges everything you think you know about who ends up in prison and why.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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How Australia created a criminal empire: Rohan Pike Pt. 2 18.05.2026 55minAustralia's war on tobacco has backfired spectacularly, and the consequences have become deadly. In this episode of I Catch Killers, former ABF and AFP detective Rohan Pike takes us deeper into the self-inflicted tobacco wars and its consequences - including the booming unregulated vape industry, with almost all vapes sold in Australia now illegal. Rohan also tells us about serving as an AFP officer in Islamabad in the aftermath of 9/11, his role in the high-profile Jihad Jack case, and leading Australia's first ever foreign bribery investigation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Inside the Aussie tobacco wars: Rohan Pike Pt. 1 16.05.2026 58minA decade ago, Australian Border Force Tobacco Strike Team leader Rohan Pike issued a stark warning: skyrocketing tobacco excises would unleash organised crime and fuel a dangerous illicit market. Today, his prediction has become reality - firebombings terrorise suburban streets, borders are breached daily, and innocent people are being murdered as a result of the multi-billion-dollar black market. In this episode of I Catch Killers, Rohan takes us inside Australia's self-inflicted tobacco wars, revealing how violent crime syndicates smuggle millions of illicit tobacco products into the country every day, why current enforcement strategies are failing, and what it will take to stop this rapidly escalating crisis before more lives are lost.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Love bombing, sextortion and financial ruin: Kylee Dennis Pt. 2 11.05.2026 56minTens and thousands of Australians are scammed out of millions every year. However, the exploitation doesn’t stop there - a shocking number of scammers are human trafficking victims, involuntarily held in prison-like compounds and violently punished if they don’t meet their targets. In part 2 of her chat on I Catch Killers, detective turned romance scam investigator Kylee Dennis reveals the red flags that indicate you're talking to a scammer, how scammers use psychological manipulation to create a perfect storm of emotional and financial devastation, and the connection between romance scams, organised crime, and transnational criminal networks. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Unmasking romance scammers: Kylee Dennis Pt.1 09.05.2026 55minOn a quiet Sunday afternoon, former NSW Police detective Kylee Dennis got a call from her elderly mum - she’d met a man online. Within hours, Kylee had unravelled a web of lies and realised her mum was caught in a romance scam. In this episode of I Catch Killers, Kylee lifts the lid on the murky, billion‑dollar world of romance scams - how they’re built, who they target, and the shame that keeps victims silent. She also shares her remarkable career in the NSW Police Force, from Marrickville general duties to undercover stings and high‑stakes hostage negotiations.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Gaining the trust of a serial killer: Dr. Jeff Smalldon Pt. 2 04.05.2026 1hHow did Charles Manson convince multiple people to murder nine innocent victims? In this episode of I Catch Killers, forensic psychologist Dr Jeff Smalldon recounts his dealings with Manson and the women devoted to him, and reveals how they tried to recruit him. Jeff also reveals what he's learnt about the mindset of murderers, the secret to gaining the trust of a serial killer, and the chilling three word message Ted Bundy sent him.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Face to face with John Wayne Gacy: Dr. Jeff Smalldon Pt.1 02.05.2026 1h 2minImagine opening your letterbox to a letter from Ted Bundy or a handmade Christmas card from John Wayne Gacy. Forensic psychologist, Dr Jeffrey Smalldon, doesn't have to imagine. He's communicated with some of the most notorious serial killers in American history. In this episode, Gary and Jeff unpack Gacy’s charm and lures, how predators pass as “normal”, the double homicide that changed Jeff’s life, and what decades evaluating murderers reveal about psychopathy, empathy, and survival on death row.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Escaping the sovereign citizen movement: Brodie Finegan Forbes Pt. 2 27.04.2026 56minWhen his community started making their own weapons and scheming to kill cops, Brodie Finegan Forbes knew it was time to leave the sovereign citizen movement. Scared, alone, and homeless, he did the worst thing a sovcit can do - he went to the police. In part two of his chat with Gary, Brodie takes us inside his journey of escaping the sovereign citizen movement, and shares what he’s learnt since. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Life as a sovereign citizen: Brodie Finegan Forbes Pt. 1 25.04.2026 56minAt 21, Brodie Finegan Forbes found himself in the centre of the sovereign citizen movement, which he calls a ‘decentralised, pseudo-legal cult’. The combination of a troubled childhood, loss of his burgeoning music career, and societal and psychological pressures led him to 24-hour Zoom ‘echo chambers’ where he learned how to challenge authority, take on judges, and terrorise people with paperwork. He was part of a ‘chosen few’ who had figured out a ‘secret’. At least that's what he thought... In this episode, Gary chats with Brodie about the lure of the sovereign citizen movement, how he ended up living in a remote Victorian compound, and the bizarre tactics used by the movement to manipulate the law and avoid accountability.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Murder in slow motion: Claude Robinson & Vince Hurley Pt.2 20.04.2026 1h 4minIn Part 2 of Gary’s discussion with former detective Dr Vince Hurley and reformed prisoner Claude Robinson on I Catch Killers, the unlikely duo pull back the curtain on a justice system that is failing victim survivors, perpetrators, and the public alike. They argue that the current approach to tackling domestic violence is little more than a "ten-billion-dollar business" that prioritises prison beds over prevention. However, they may have a solution. This episode contains descriptions of men’s violence against women. If you or anyone you know needs support or information, contact 1800 RESPECT on 1800 737 732. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Rejection, resilience and the road to prison: Claude Robinson & Vince Hurley Pt.1 18.04.2026 1h 4minIs the ‘tough on crime approach’ working to keep people safe? In this episode of I Catch Killers, Gary is joined by two men from opposite sides of the law who have arrived at the same radical conclusion - the justice system is broken for everyone. Dr Vince Hurley is a former Detective turned academic, and Claude Robinson is a former heroin addict and prisoner who now runs Rainbow Lodge, a residential center helping high-risk men transition from prison back into society. Together, they challenge everything we think we know about the justice system. This episode contains descriptions of men’s violence against women. If you or anyone you know needs support or information, contact 1800 RESPECT on 1800 737 732. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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How to spot someone planning a mass attack: Ian Cherrington Pt. 2 13.04.2026 53minWhat are the steps a lone actor takes when preparing a violent attack? Can they be stopped? In Part 2 of forensic psychologist turned detective Ian Cherrington’s chat with Gary Jubelin on I Catch Killers, Ian unpacks warning signs and ‘leakage’ that suggest planning is underway. Ian shares practical ways to support people showing early extremist views, and explains how lone actors differ from the ‘sovereign citizen’ movement.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Inside the mind of a serial killer: Ian Cherrington Pt. 1 11.04.2026 57minAs a teenager, Ian Cherrington became fascinated by the psychology of serial killers - a fascination that would shape his entire career. He began as a forensic psychologist studying the minds of serial killers before making an unconventional leap into frontline policing as a detective in the UK. After years investigating homicides and linking crimes across the country, Ian transitioned into counter-terrorism and lone actor threat assessment, positioning himself at the cutting edge of one of modern policing's most pressing challenges. In Part 1 of his conversation with Gary Jubelin on I Catch Killers, Ian recounts the harrowing case of Robert Black, a paedophile and child killer whose crimes became the catalyst for Ian's decision to join the police. Ian also unpacks the critical psychological differences between serial killers and lone actors. Questions for Gary: icatchkillers@news.com.au Get in touch with the show by joining our Facebook group, and visiting us on Instagram or Tiktok.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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When a detective takes on the system: Graeme Simpfendorfer Pt. 2 06.04.2026 49minAfter 40 years of silence, former sex crimes detective Graeme Simpfendorfer confronted the man he says abused him in a recorded phone call. In part two of his powerful conversation with Gary Jubelin on I Catch Killers, Graeme opens up about the anxiety of giving a police statement, a process he’d navigated countless times professionally, but never as a victim survivor, and takes us inside the harrowing years-long fight for justice. If you or someone you know needs help, there is support available. You don’t have to go through it alone. Please reach out to support services like 1800RESPECT. This interview was recorded before Graeme's case went to trial. In the time since this recording, Graeme's specific case went to court and resulted in an acquittal. However, the same individual also faced trials over a number of other historical sexual offences against children. The defendant pleaded not guilty to all charges and has maintained his innocence throughout. While he was found guilty of sexual offences relating to four victims, the defendant continues to maintain his innocence and has filed a motion to appeal those convictions. Listen to Graeme's previous interview on I Catch Killers here: Part 1 & Part 2 Questions for Gary: icatchkillers@news.com.au Get in touch with the show by joining our Facebook group, and visiting us on Instagram or Tiktok.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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‘The hardest investigation was the one where I was the victim’: Graeme Simpfendorfer Pt.1 04.04.2026 56minGraeme Simpfendorfer spent 27 years in the Victoria Police, leading elite squads in Homicide and Sexual Offences. He was a veteran detective catching predators until a training lecture on grooming behaviours unlocked a trauma he had suppressed for decades. Graeme realised that as a teenager, he had been the victim of the very crimes he spent his professional life investigating. In this episode, Gary and Graeme discuss the "war of attrition" that followed when a top detective had to report his own abuser. Graeme reveals the clinical reality of recording a sting call and the struggle of wearing a "Batman mask" to survive his trauma. If you or someone you know needs help, there is support available. You don’t have to go through it alone. Please reach out to support services like 1800RESPECT. This interview was recorded before Graeme's case went to trial. In the time since this recording, Graeme's specific case went to court and resulted in an acquittal. However, the same individual also faced trials over a number of other historical sexual offences against children. The defendant pleaded not guilty to all charges and has maintained his innocence throughout. While he was found guilty of sexual offences relating to four victims, the defendant continues to maintain his innocence and has filed a motion to appeal those convictions. Listen to Graeme's previous interview on I Catch Killers here: Part 1 & Part 2 Questions for Gary: icatchkillers@news.com.au Get in touch with the show by joining our Facebook group, and visiting us on Instagram or Tiktok.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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BONUS: 12 months on, Kathleen Kirby is still waiting for justice for Audrey 31.03.2026 1hTwelve months after the brutal murder of her daughter Audrey Griffin, Kathleen Kirby returns to discuss the "numb" reality of her life. Unable to grieve while fighting for justice, Kathleen has stepped in where the system failed - organising community walks and personally tracking down overlooked CCTV footage. Gary and Kathleen explore the devastating "ripple effect" of homicide and the lack of support for families left behind, from administrative coldness regarding Audrey’s belongings to the confusing pain of waiting for a coroner’s report. Listen to Kathleen's previous interview on I Catch Killers here: Part 1 & Part 2. Questions for Gary: icatchkillers@news.com.au Get in touch with the show by joining our Facebook group, and visiting us on Instagram or Tiktok.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The unsolved murders of Lynette White and Maria Smith: Candice Fox Pt.2 30.03.2026 55minIn 1974, a 17-year-old girl in Sydney answered the door to a man claiming to be an encyclopaedia salesman who carried nothing with him and left her with a chilling "full body rush" of fear. Decades later, that woman's daughter - award-winning author Candice Fox - realised this family story aligned with the timeline of two unsolved homicides from the same neighbourhood. Candice details how this personal connection led her to report the encounter to police and attempt her own investigation into the deaths of Lynette White and Maria Smith and how these tragedies formed the inspiration for her new novel. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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