Other People's Business

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  Stanford Professor Jeffrey Pfeffer on the Business of Power 05.10.2026 1h 24min

  Hard work won't get you promoted. Stanford professor Jeffrey Pfeffer on the rules of power nobody teaches you. In this conversation, Jeffrey lays out the real sequence: political skill gets you power, power gets you money, and hard work is optional. He explains how to build a power map, why you have to figure out who to impress before you impress anyone, why nobody has ever been promoted by someone who doesn't know them, and the three ways people turn power into wealth: free stuff, early access and selling your celebrity. He and David also get into why authenticity is "complete bullshit," the right and wrong kinds of vulnerability at work, whether there's a limit to flattery, why you should negotiate for budget instead of salary, how to beat imposter syndrome, and where Trump, Putin, AOC and Martha Stewart rank on the Pfeffer scale of power. Plus David workshops the pitch he used to sign MasterClass's first instructors, and asks for notes. This is the business of power with Jeffrey Pfeffer.  
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  Lifestyle Mogul Martha Stewart on the Business of Influence 05.10.2026 58min

  Martha Stewart built the creator economy before it had a name and made $65M a year in royalties on nearly $2B in merchandise. In this conversation, Martha breaks down the business model behind the empire: the Kmart licensing deal that changed everything, why she spread her content across books, magazines, TV and products, and how she thinks about brand deals, authenticity and staying relevant more than 40 years in. She and MasterClass Founder & CEO David Rogier also get into the billion dollars she says she lost during her legal troubles, why Snoop Dogg quadrupled her audience, what today's influencers get wrong, Kim Kardashian and Skims, social media, her new AI startup HINT, and Martha's rule for building anything: make something people need and want. This is the business of influence with Martha Stewart.
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  Trailer: Other People's Business 05.10.2026 1min

  Every industry has a version of itself that never makes the headlines. Every success has a cost that never makes the story. Everything you interact with has a system underneath it, shaping how it works, who profits, and what it actually takes. Other People's Business gets into all of it. The real money. The actual decisions. The machine behind everything you see and don't fully understand. Hosted by David Rogier, Founder and CEO of MasterClass. For more than a decade, he's been inside conversations most people never hear. Other People's Business is built on the questions nobody thinks to ask. And the ones you wish someone would.