Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks
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Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
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On Hymn Writing with Matt Boswell (Ep. 341) 15.09.2026 34минIn this special live episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman sits down with hymn writer, worship professor, and pastor Matt Boswell to talk about the craft and calling of writing hymns for the church. They also explore what a hymn writer and a theologian each see, how Matt writes with specific suffering church members in mind, why singing is meant to be horizontal as well as vertical, and what to do if you don't like your church's music (spoiler: sing anyway).Note: this episode was recorded live and has some audio issues throughout. -
On Ministry in Kurdistan (Ep. 340) 08.09.2026 35минIn this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever are joined by David Lawrence, pastor of Erbil Baptist Church, and Jeremy Barker of the Mustard Seed Foundation, to discuss gospel work in Kurdistan — the semi-autonomous Kurdish region of northern Iraq. -
On Let the Word Dwell Richly (Ep. 339) 01.09.2026 32минIn this episode of Pastors Talk, Caleb Morell and Mark Dever sit down with Australian author Tony Payne (co-author of The Trellis and the Vine) to discuss his new book, Let the Word Dwell Richly. Payne makes the case that alongside the public preaching of the Word, the New Testament everywhere assumes a "one another word" — believers speaking Scripture and its implications to one another for mutual spiritual benefit. -
On the Pleasures of God with John Piper (Ep. 338) 25.08.2026 45минIn this special episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever welcome John Piper to reflect on his book The Pleasures of God, newly reissued by Crossway. Together they explore why God's self-exaltation is not vanity but love, how grace overflows from a God who is full and free, the connection between God's glory and His happiness, and why a gloomy view of God distorts everything downstream. -
Special Episode: On Preaching About the American Revolution (Ep. 337) 21.07.2026 36минIn this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever discuss the unusual sermon Mark preached on July 5th, 2026 — the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence; tackling the question, "Are we celebrating the 250th anniversary of a sin?" Along the way they reflect on when to depart from expositional preaching for a topical occasion, rightly ordered love of country versus idolatry. -
Special Episode: On Lessons from Mark's Medical Event (Ep. 336) 14.07.2026 34минIn this special episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman sits down with Mark and Connie Dever to talk through Mark's sudden medical event. Mark and Connie recount the story, from the emergency room to Mark's slow recovery, and reflect on what the experience revealed: how a healthy church cares for a pastor and his family in crisis, and the importance of building those habits of mutual care long before you need them. -
On Raising Up Leaders Part 4 (Ep. 335) 02.06.2026 51минIn the season finale of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman is joined by Ligon Duncan and Michael Lawrence to discuss the state of the pastoral pipeline — examining why fewer men are entering ministry, the role of demographics and seminary debt, and what healthy churches and seminaries can do about it. -
On Raising Up Leaders Part 3 (Ep. 334) 26.05.2026 31минIn part three of their series on raising up leaders, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever work through nine practical principles Mark uses to identify and develop future pastors — from spotting qualified men and extending trust early, to delegating well, cultivating feedback loops, embracing a healthy view of authority, and modeling clarity and humility. Along the way they discuss why spending time with a few people often matters more than chasing a platform, and why a senior pastor who always wins the vote is quietly undermining his own eldership. -
On Raising Up Leaders Part 2 (Ep. 333) 19.05.2026 24минJonathan Leeman and Mark Dever continue their conversation on raising up leaders, exploring the connection between discipleship, evangelism, and church planting, how to measure ministry fruitfulness beyond numbers, and what it means to steward your church for the next pastor. -
On Raising Up Leaders Part 1 (Ep. 332) 12.05.2026 29минIn this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark dive into the essential, yet often challenging, practice of raising up leaders and passing out authority. They discuss what it takes to build a ministry around giving authority away rather than consolidating it. -
On Drifting from the Gospel (Ep. 331) 05.05.2026 37минHebrews 2:1 warns believers to pay close attention to the gospel message to avoid drifting away from their faith. Mark and Jonathan talk to Jared Wilson about his book on this topic and how believers should be thinking carefully about the centrality of the gospel in their lives. -
On "Can I Reimburse that as a Pastor?" (Ep. 330) 28.04.2026 37минHow should pastors think about their work hours? What are some principles that churches and pastors can consider for pastors to get reimbursed? Mark and Jonathan talk with Garrett and Mike on lessons learned. -
On Discerning Repentance in Church Discipline (Ep. 329) 21.04.2026 40минShould Christians talk about discerning the repentance of other Christians? What are the instructions from the New Testament to churches? Mark and Jonathan invite Caleb Morell to discuss this. -
On The Homebound and Those Near Death (Ep. 328) 14.04.2026 36минHow to pastor and walk with those in the unique season of life when they can't leave home and approaching death. Mark and Jonathan discuss practical ideas on how to be mindful as pastors. -
On Eastern Orthodoxy Part 2 (Ep. 327) 07.04.2026 35минJonathan and Mark Feather talk to Joshua Schooping, a former Eastern Orthodox priest, on how to pastor church members who may be considering joining the Eastern Orthodox church. -
On Eastern Orthodoxy Part 1 (Ep. 326) 31.03.2026 41минJonathan, Mark and Mark Feather talk to Joshua Schooping, a former Eastern Orthodox priest, on the reasons he had to leave that church. -
On The Ministry of Small Things and Fighting Pastoral Cynicism (Ep. 325) 24.03.2026 27минJonathan talks to Reuben Bredenhof, author of The Ministry of Small Things. They consider the ordinary ministry of pastors, focusing on all the small things they must be faithful to, and reflect on the temptation of pastoral cynicism. -
On Why Should Pastors Teach the Job Description of Deacons (Ep. 324) 17.03.2026 28минIf Jesus is the great deacon, what does that say about the office of deacon in our churches?Jonathan sits down with Larry Lazarus to discuss why it is important for churches to know the job descriptions of deacons. -
On Why Should Pastors Teach Their Job Descriptions (Ep. 323) 10.03.2026 30минHave you ever wondered why it's important for congregations to know their pastor's job description according to the Bible? Jonathan sits down with his senior pastor, Larry Lazarus, to consider this question. -
On Expositional Preaching with H.B. Charles Jr. (Ep. 322) 03.03.2026 25минMark talks to H.B. Charles Jr. on ministerial calling and how he prepares for preaching.
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