From Betrayal To Breakthrough
Dr. Debi Silber
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The betrayal of a family member, partner, friend, etc. can create physical, mental and emotional challenges. If left unhealed, it impacts us personally and professionally. The From Betrayal to Breakthrough podcast shares insights from the best therapists, coaches, healers, thought leaders and everyday people, combined with the findings of a recent Ph.D. study on betrayal to help you move forward and heal...once and for all.
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491: You Betrayed Yourself First? Dov Baron on Identity, Belonging, and the Courage to Question Everything 14.09.2026 45минIn this episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Dov Baron, five time Top 30 Global Leadership Guru, two time Inc. Magazine top leadership speaker, and the preeminent expert on creating cultures of belonging, for a wide ranging conversation on identity, survival, belonging, and the courage it takes to question everything you think you know about yourself. Dov opens up about the free climbing accident in 1990 that ended his life five times in a single afternoon, and how the real crisis didn't actually arrive until months later, on an ordinary Saturday night, holding his dead cat. Together, Dov and Dr. Debi explore his provocative claim that you've never actually been betrayed, you betrayed yourself, why 99% of the people who hurt us are simply in survival mode rather than malevolent, and the neuroscience behind why we miss the signs we later realize were there all along. This conversation goes deep into identity, belonging, and boundaries, and Dov offers a grounded, no nonsense take on all three, including the non negotiable boundary conversation he had with his wife of 29 years, and the two words, 'I suppose you're right,' that cost him years of self betrayal. In This Episode: The free climbing accident in June 1990 that ended Dov's life five times, and the ten reconstructive surgeries that followed The night, months later, that actually broke him open: coming home to find his dead cat, and realizing the grief wasn't for the cat at all The three choices Dov vacillated between on his living room floor, and why the 'victim' option was the most seductive one available Why resilience was never the goal for Dov, and what anti-fragility based on deep soulful truth actually means Dov's central, provocative reframe: 'you've never been betrayed, you betrayed yourself,' and what he means by it Why 99% of people who hurt us are in survival mode rather than malevolent, and how that distinction changes recovery The neuroscience of the romantic phase versus the power struggle phase in relationships, and why bonds built on fitting in eventually crack Getting married at 16, taking his own mother to court for permission, and the two words that started decades of self betrayal: 'I suppose you're right' The non negotiable boundary conversation Dov had with his wife of 29 years, and why you can't hold a boundary you've never clearly named Dov's equation for a meaningful life: courage plus curiosity equals love, and why real curiosity means questioning the belief you're most certain of Resources Mentioned: The Putin Report, Dov's free five page emotional source code profile, available at DovBaron.com The Dov Baron Show (podcast) The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery, ThePBTInstitute.com Connect with Dov Baron: Website: DovBaron.com Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: Dov Baron Podcast: The Dov Baron Show YouTube: Dov Baron Instagram / X: Dov Baron Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://ThePBTInstitute.com -
490: Stuck or Stopped? Lee Harris on Betrayal, Surrender, and Finding Your Way Back 07.09.2026 47минIn this episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Lee Harris, spiritual leader, author, channeler, and musician, for a wide ranging conversation on betrayal, surrender, forgiveness, and what it actually takes to find your way back to yourself. Lee opens up about his own experience of betrayal by someone he trusted deeply, and how that experience became a rubber meets the road moment for who he really was. Together, Lee and Dr. Debi explore the wounded empath pattern that so often leads to repeat betrayal, why self judgment is the fastest way to keep yourself stuck, and a simple but powerful reframe: you're not stuck, you're stopped. Lee also shares the exact process he used to move through his own darkest season, including a surprising ritual involving a massage and a very specific intention. This conversation goes deep into trust, surrender, and forgiveness, three words that carry enormous weight after betrayal, and Lee offers a grounded, human take on all three that avoids easy answers or spiritual bypassing. In This Episode: Lee's own experience of being betrayed by someone he trusted, and the complexity of still caring for that person afterward The difference between the wounded empath and the less wounded empath, and why both patterns can lead to repeat betrayal Why relationships where the betrayer faces few consequences correlate with the most physical illness, a finding from Dr. Debi's own research The reframe that changed everything for Lee's clients: 'you're not stuck, you're stopped' Why self judgment is the fastest way to stop your own healing The 'calculator moment': a client who had ruminated on a 40 year old betrayal for the equivalent of 5 wasted years How to find the areas of your life where trust is still intact, and lean into those while you rebuild the rest Lee's take on surrender, including why remembering you don't control when you'll die can actually be freeing What forgiveness really means: no longer carrying the dagger someone else placed in your heart A grief reflection inspired by musician Nick Cave's Red Hand Files, and why trauma frozen in the body needs release, not just time Resources Mentioned: Lucid Surrender by Entheo (ambient music album Lee uses for nervous system regulation) The Red Hand Files — Nick Cave (newsletter) The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery — ThePBTInstitute.com Connect with Lee Harris: Website: LeeHarrisEnergy.com Music: LeeHarrisMusic.com YouTube: Lee Harris Energy Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://ThePBTInstitute.com -
489: From Disruption to Joy: Stacie Shifflett on Reinvention After Divorce 31.08.2026 31минIn this episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Stacie Shifflett, founder of Modern Consciousness, to explore what it takes to move from anger and betrayal into clarity, intention, and joy. After her 28 year marriage imploded, Stacie refused to simply drift like a leaf bumping along the current. Instead she threw herself into over a decade of personal development, working with figures like Tony Robbins and Joe Dispenza, before surrendering to an idea she'd resisted for two years: building a company around everything she'd learned about the human condition. Stacie shares the moment she realized she didn't want to become the woman she met in a grief support group, someone who hadn't left her house in five years after losing a child, and how that realization became a turning point in her own healing. She and Dr. Debi dig into the real difference between insight and rumination, why intuition sounds different from your inner critic, and why intentionality, not a single big leap, is what actually moves people forward. Whether you're navigating divorce, betrayal, grief, or simply a season of disruption, this conversation offers a grounded, practical roadmap for reclaiming your peace of mind and choosing who you want to be next. In This Episode: Why Stacie describes her post-divorce self as 'a leaf going down the stream, bumping into rocks,' and the moment she decided to stop How two years of resistance turned into the founding of Modern Consciousness The real difference between insight and staying stuck in analysis A story from a grief support group that reframed how Stacie thinks about staying stuck versus moving forward Why 'sometimes the right thing to do is the hardest' became a phrase she coined for herself The difference between the voice of intuition and the voice of the ego, and how to tell them apart Why intentionality, not a single big decision, is what actually creates change How the Four Agreements shaped her early healing, especially the practice of not making assumptions Why she believes peace of mind is our greatest personal asset The one question she keeps coming back to: do you want to stay where you are? Resources Mentioned: Treasure Map to Joy — Stacie Shifflett (book, a parable of one woman's journey from disruption to joy) The Four Agreements — Don Miguel Ruiz The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery — ThePBTInstitute.com Connect with Stacie Shifflett: Website: modernconsciousness.com Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://ThePBTInstitute.com -
488: The Other Side of Perfect: Reclaiming Your Life After Betrayal 24.08.2026 43минWhat happens when the life that looked perfect from the outside was hiding a secret that would eventually send your husband to prison for 45 years? In this episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Venus Morris Griffin, author and real estate professional, to explore what it takes to survive generational trauma, recognize abuse you were conditioned not to see, and rebuild an entirely new life for yourself and your children when everything you thought was true turns out to be a lie. Venus shares the childhood that shaped her tolerance for dysfunction long before she ever met her husband, the years of escalating abuse she didn't recognize as abuse, and the middle of the night phone call that finally broke the illusion apart. What follows isn't a story about staying a victim. It's a story about the small, daily choices that quietly rebuild a life. They also explore how faith can be both an anchor and, at times, a trap, why the frog in boiling water analogy explains so much about how abuse escalates unnoticed, and what it actually means to break a generational cycle instead of repeating it. In This Episode: How childhood conditioning shapes what we believe is 'normal' in adult relationships The frog in boiling water analogy, and why abuse so rarely announces itself all at once Why 'you can be a victim, but you can't be a victim' became a turning point in Venus's healing How faith and religious belief can be both a source of strength and, at times, a reason people stay too long The middle of the night phone call that finally revealed the truth Why Venus believes it's the small, unremarkable choices, not the big dramatic ones, that actually save you What she told her six children the day she came home from the courthouse Why 100% of the proceeds from her book go to charity, and what she hopes it does for the next woman who reads it Resources Mentioned: The Other Side of Perfect — Venus Morris Griffin (book) Connect with Venus Morris Griffin: Instagram: Venus Morris Griffin Book: The Other Side of Perfect, available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and anywhere books are sold Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://ThePBTInstitute.com -
487: The Truth About Forgiveness: What It Is, What It Isn't, and Why It Is the Most Powerful Thing You Can Do for Yourself 17.08.2026 30минForgiveness is one of the most charged words in the English language. For many people who have been through betrayal, just hearing it brings up anger, resistance, or the feeling that forgiving means letting someone off the hook. In this solo episode, Dr. Debi Silber clears the air on what forgiveness actually is and what it absolutely is not, and makes the case for why it may be the most powerful thing you can do for your own physical, mental, and emotional health. Debi shares her personal story of forgiving her husband and family after one of the most painful seasons of her life, how that journey led to founding National Forgiveness Day, and what she has witnessed in thousands of people who have moved from angry, bitter, and resentful to forgiving and free in just 21 days. What You Will Hear in This Episode: Why forgiveness has nothing to do with the other person and everything to do with you The difference between forgiveness and reconciliation and why they are not the same thing Why forgiving too early in betrayal recovery always backfires Where forgiveness fits in the Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery The real reason so many people withhold forgiveness and what it is actually costing them The physical benefits of forgiveness: lower blood pressure, better sleep, stronger immune system, reduced cortisol, longer lifespan The mental benefits: reduced anxiety and depression, clearer thinking, freedom from obsessive rumination The emotional benefits: relief, restored self-trust, moving from victim to empowered How the nervous system after betrayal is wired for protection not peace and what to do about it Why acceptance is the step before forgiveness and how to start there The story of the 21-Day National Forgiveness Day journey and what Debi witnessed participants experience Practical tools: journaling prompts, mantras, and the one degree shift toward forgiveness How you can forgive and still walk away The National Forgiveness Day Transformation Program and the September 22nd Fireside Chat Practical Takeaways from This Episode: Start with acceptance, not forgiveness. You are not fighting what happened anymore. You are simply acknowledging it cannot be changed. Focus on relief first. What would feeling 1% lighter look like? One less time ruminating today? That is enough to start. Journal prompt: What would forgiveness look like for me? How would I feel? What would I think? Who would I be? Try a mantra. Each day of the 21-day program includes a mantra to shift the energy around forgiveness. You do not have to start with your biggest betrayal. Start with a smaller wound first and build from there. Resources Mentioned: National Forgiveness Day Transformation Program (21 days): NationalForgivenessDay.com Live Fireside Chat with Dr. Debi: September 22nd The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery: ThePBTInstitute.com Post Betrayal Syndrome Assessment: ThePBTInstitute.com Trust Again by Dr. Debi Silber Connect with Dr. Debi Silber: Instagram: @debisilber Website: ThePBTInstitute.com National Forgiveness Day Program: NationalForgivenessDay.com Start your healing journey: ThePBTInstitute.com/live Bring Dr. Debi to your stage: ThePBTInstitute.com/speaking Read the largest research study on betrayal: ThePBTInstitute.com/state-of-betrayal-report -
486: Why Your Health Is the Missing Piece in Betrayal Recovery (And What to Do About It) 10.08.2026 32минWhen we talk about healing from betrayal, we almost always focus on the emotional and psychological side. But what about the body? In this solo episode, Dr. Debi Silber gets personal about her own health journey, including a series of illnesses that became a wake-up call, and shares why physical health, nutrition, fitness, and lifestyle are not optional extras in betrayal recovery. They are foundational. Drawing on her 35 years as a health and lifestyle coach, her PhD research into Post Betrayal Syndrome, and her own lived experience of rebuilding from the inside out, Debi makes the case for why your body deserves the same attention as your mind and heart when you are healing from anything. What You Will Hear in This Episode: Why betrayal hits you on every level: physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually How Post Betrayal Syndrome symptoms like brain fog, fatigue, and digestive issues are made worse by ignoring physical health Why nutrition is not about dieting but about nourishing yourself with love How fitness and movement are directly linked to confidence, mental strength, and emotional wellbeing Why women over 50 cannot afford to make health an afterthought anymore How betrayal, while devastating, is actually a powerful invitation to rebuild your life with more intention The connection between physical strength and rebuilding trust in yourself Why community and connection are part of healing, not extras Debi's personal story of launching her first in-person Betrayal to Breakthrough program in San Diego A practical one-degree-of-change challenge you can start today The One Degree of Change Challenge: Dr. Debi invites you to pick one area of your lifestyle, eating, fitness, sleep, connection, or stress, and ask: on a scale of zero to ten, where am I right now? Then ask: what would it take to move it up just half a point? That one small shift moves you closer to the body, mind, and life you deserve. Resources Mentioned: The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery — ThePBTInstitute.com Post Betrayal Syndrome Assessment — ThePBTInstitute.com Betrayal to Breakthrough San Diego Live Program — ThePBTInstitute.com/betrayal-to-breakthrough-san-diego-live/ Betrayal to Breakthrough Live — ThePBTInstitute.com/live Connect with Dr. Debi Silber: Instagram: @debisilber Website: ThePBTInstitute.com Start your healing journey: ThePBTInstitute.com/live Bring Dr. Debi to your stage: ThePBTInstitute.com/speaking Read the largest research study on betrayal: ThePBTInstitute.com/state-of-betrayal-report San Diego in-person program: ThePBTInstitute.com/betrayal-to-breakthrough-san-diego-live/ -
485: The Gift of Grief: How Cumulative Loss Can Lead to Your Greatest Transformation 03.08.2026 28минWhat if grief was not something to get over, but a bridge that leads you to your greatest transformation? In this powerful episode of From Betrayal to Breakthrough, Dr. Debi Silber sits down with Rosalind Price, known as The Grief Gangstress, for an honest, deeply human conversation about cumulative loss, the 5 grief archetypes, and how navigating grief with strategic intention can lead to profound personal transformation. Rosalind Price has experienced grief from the age of four, losing her mother at 16, her father shortly after, members of her support system, and later her former husband. Rather than running from grief, she built an entire framework to move through it strategically, and now helps individuals and C-suite leaders do the same. She shares how grief is not a nemesis or an antagonist, but a bridge that reminds us we are the priority. This episode will change the way you see grief. Whether you are healing from betrayal, loss, or a life-altering shift, Rosalind's 5 grief archetypes will help you understand where you are in your journey and how to move forward with intention and power. Topics Covered: How cumulative grief can feel like life itself has betrayed you, and why that feeling is valid The critical difference between soldiering through grief and actually healing from it Why the people around us sometimes unintentionally add to our grief instead of easing it The 5 grief archetypes: Devoted Soldier, Seeker, Deep Diver, Expander, and Transformer, and how to identify which one you are How grief shows up in the corporate world and what C-suite leaders can do to create space for it Why speaking up for your needs during grief is not a burden, it is a gift to everyone around you How grief and betrayal healing share the same emotional terrain and why Debi's audience will deeply relate The relationship between love and grief: the bigger the love, the bigger the grief, and why that is actually a sign of your greatness Rosalind's personal journey from lifelong loss to becoming The Grief Gangstress Why grieving is the season and the bridge, and grief is the destination that reminds you that you are the priority Resources Mentioned: Grief Archetype Assessment Guide (FREE) — rrrichardprice.com/the-blueprint The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery — ThePBTInstitute.com Post Betrayal Syndrome Assessment — ThePBTInstitute.com Betrayal to Breakthrough Live — ThePBTInstitute.com/live Connect with Rosalind Price: Website: rrrichardprice.com Free Grief Archetype Assessment Guide: rrrichardprice.com/the-blueprint LinkedIn: Rosalind Price Facebook: Rosalind Price / The Grief Gangstress Instagram: Rosalind Price / The Grief Gangstress Substack: Rosalind Price / The Grief Gangstress Connect with Dr. Debi Silber: Instagram: @debisilber Website: ThePBTInstitute.com Betrayal to Breakthrough Live — ThePBTInstitute.com/live Bring Dr. Debi to your stage — ThePBTInstitute.com/speaking Read the largest research study on betrayal ever conducted — ThePBTInstitute.com/state-of-betrayal-report -
484: How to Rewrite Your Story and Stop Suffering 27.07.2026 48минWhat if the stories you've been telling yourself about your betrayal — about who you are, what you're capable of, and whether you can heal — aren't facts at all? What if they're just beliefs? And what if beliefs can change? In this powerful episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Nir Eyal, bestselling author of Beyond Belief, Indistractable, and Hooked, for a conversation that will fundamentally shift how you see your own healing journey. Nir is one of the world's leading thinkers on behavior change and human potential, and what he shares here is directly relevant to everyone navigating betrayal recovery. Nir breaks down the critical difference between facts, faith, and beliefs — and why understanding that distinction is the single most important thing you can do to stop suffering. You'll hear about the science behind limiting beliefs, why your brain is actually designed to keep you stuck, and how something as seemingly small as a shift in perspective can produce results as dramatic as a rat swimming 60 hours instead of 15 minutes. You'll also discover why 80% of healthcare spending goes to illness (not sickness), what surgery without anesthesia reveals about the power of your mind, and why the biggest limiting belief of all — that feeling bad is bad — may be what's keeping you from your breakthrough. This episode is for everyone who's ever said, "This is just who I am," or "I can't change," or "I'll be okay once they admit what they did." Nir gently but firmly challenges all of it — and gives you the tools to challenge it yourself. Topics Covered: The critical difference between facts, faith, and beliefs — and why it matters for healing Why beliefs are "tools, not truths" and how to start using them differently What learned helplessness research got completely wrong — and what the truth reveals about your potential The Hope Floats study: how rats swam 60 hours instead of 15 minutes — and what that means for you Why your brain is wired to keep you stuck (and how to work with it, not against it) The difference between sickness and illness — and why 80% of healthcare spending misses the mark How Daniel Giss underwent a 55-minute surgical procedure with zero anesthesia using only the power of his mind The fear-pain-fear loop and how it amplifies betrayal trauma The surprising science of prayer and pain tolerance — even for people with no faith tradition How placebos work (and why open-label placebos outperform leading medications for IBS) Why your memories aren't as accurate as you think — and why that's actually good news The story of Dashrath Manjhi — the man who moved a mountain (literally) for 22 years Inquiry-based stress reduction and the one question that can unlock everything: "Could the opposite be true?" The biggest limiting belief holding people back: feeling bad is bad Dr. Debi shares research from 100,000+ betrayal survivors on the gut-betrayal connection A powerful story of a woman who healed a 70+ year digestive issue in two weeks of betrayal recovery Resources Mentioned: Nir Eyal's website & free 5-minute Belief Change Journal: NirAndFar.com Beyond Belief by Nir Eyal Indistractable by Nir Eyal Hooked by Nir Eyal The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ — ThePBTInstitute.com Post Betrayal Syndrome® Assessment — ThePBTInstitute.com Betrayal to Breakthrough: Live — ThePBTInstitute.com/live Connect with Nir Eyal: Website: http://nirandfar.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nireyal/ Instagram - http://instagram.com/nireyal Book: Beyond Belief geni.us/beyondbelief Free belief change guide is here: https://www.nirandfar.com/beyond-belief-live Bonus content and the 30-Day Belief Transformation Journal is here: https://www.nirandfar.com/beyond-belief Connect with Dr. Debi Silber: Instagram: @debisilber Website: ThePBTInstitute.com Join Betrayal to Breakthrough: Live: ThePBTInstitute.com/live -
483: How to Communicate Clearly After Betrayal 20.07.2026 34минWhen trust is shattered, so is your ability to think clearly, speak confidently, and feel safe expressing yourself. In this powerful episode, Dr. Debi Silber sits down with Stanford University lecturer, communication expert, and bestselling author Matt Abrahams to explore how to reclaim your voice — even when fear, brain fog, and self-doubt have taken over. Matt is the host of the globally renowned podcast Think Fast, Talk Smart and the author of Think Faster, Talk Smarter. He has spent decades helping people master spontaneous communication — the kind that happens in real time, under pressure, and when the stakes feel impossibly high. And if you've been through betrayal, you know exactly what that feels like. In this episode, you'll discover: Why most of our communication is spontaneous — and why that's actually good news Four powerful mindset shifts to help you stop freezing and start responding with confidence How to manage the physical and emotional symptoms of communication anxiety The difference between "connection" and "perfection" — and why ditching perfection changes everything How deep, intentional listening keeps you present and out of your own head What it means to "trust loudly" — and how it rebuilds safety in your relationships Why asking a question or paraphrasing in a meeting is a powerful act of confidence How to use conflict as a problem-solving opportunity rather than a threat The one mindset shift that transforms how you respond when communication goes wrong Whether you're navigating a difficult conversation with a coworker, slowly rebuilding trust with a partner, or learning to speak up for yourself again after betrayal dimmed your light — this episode gives you the practical tools and the permission to start right where you are. Connect with Matt Abrahams: Podcast: Think Fast, Talk Smart (available everywhere) Website: mattabrahams.com LinkedIn & Instagram: @mattabrahams Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://thepbtinstitute.com -
482: Reclaiming Your Intuition After Betrayal 13.07.2026 35минWhat if the intuition you silenced to survive your betrayal is the very thing that can guide you out of it? In this episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Dallisa Hocking — fifth-generation psychic medium and energy architect — to explore what happens to our intuitive sense when trust is shattered. Whether you intentionally shut it down to avoid confrontation or inadvertently turned it off just to get through the day, this conversation is your invitation to turn it back on. You'll learn how to distinguish true intuition from fear-based thinking, why rebuilding self-trust is the foundation for everything that comes after betrayal, and how tools like interactive guided imagery can help you access the answers already living inside of you. They also explore the nuanced world of psychic readings and predictions — what they can and cannot do for someone recovering from betrayal — and discuss free will's role in shaping what comes next in your life. In This Episode: How betrayal causes us to turn down (or off) our intuition — and why that happens The key difference between intuition and fear-based thoughts — and a simple test to tell them apart Why rebuilding self-trust starts with small, daily commitments — not grand gestures How your intuition signals differently for everyone — and how to identify your personal 'markers' What interactive guided imagery is and how it helps you access inner wisdom The truth about psychic readings: what's helpful, what gives your power away, and what to look for in a trustworthy practitioner How to hold spiritual and religious beliefs alongside a new, direct relationship with your inner guidance Dallisa's 'Breakthrough Three' — her best-thing-from-hardest-moment, what still surprises her, and the one thing she'd want you to hear on your worst day Resources Mentioned: The Guest House — Rumi (poem) Conversations with God, Book One — Neale Donald Walsch Free 10-Minute Reset Audio — available at spiritandspark.com Connect with Dallisa Hocking: Website & free audio: http://spiritandspark.com Substack, podcast, and social media via the website Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://ThePBTInstitute.com -
481: The 4 Voices in Your Head — and Why 3 of Them Are Keeping You Stuck After Betrayal 06.07.2026 34минWhat does NASA, the military, and healing from betrayal have in common? More than you might think. In this powerful episode, Dr. Debi Silber sits down with mindset strategist and engineer John Mollura — whose career took him from high-stakes aerospace missions to coaching high performers — to talk about the one thing that determines whether we move forward or stay stuck: how we use our minds. John introduces his "Four Navigators" framework — the Drifter, the Blamer, the Critic, and the Seeker — and explains how three of them quietly sabotage our progress while we're convinced we're taking action. You'll recognize yourself in every one of them. In this episode, you'll discover: Why trust is so critical in high-stakes environments — and what happens when it breaks down (and how it mirrors the betrayal experience) The three internal navigators keeping you stuck: the Drifter, the Blamer, and the Critic How to activate the Seeker — the one navigator that leads with awareness and curiosity John's confidence formula: Awareness + Bravery = Confidence Why "all movement is not progress" — and how to tell the difference The "Let It Fly" mindset that cures analysis paralysis John's HITS framework: a four-step tool to halt the spiral and take intentional action Why small, consistent steps beat grand plans every time — especially when you're rebuilding Key Takeaways: The inner critic's voice often originated with someone else — a parent, a bully, an early experience. Once you trace it, you can reclaim it. Your body is always signaling when one of the three unhelpful navigators is taking over. Learning to read those signals is the first step to shifting out of them. Bravery is not the absence of fear — it's taking action despite it. Confidence follows action, not the other way around. John's "What's your 1%?" question is a game-changer for anyone who has been through betrayal and is ready to reclaim their agency — without taking on blame they don't deserve. Connect with John Mollura: Website: https://johnmollura.com Free Masterclass (The Navigators): https://john-mollura.systeme.io/the-navigators Book: Let It Fly (coming this fall) Connect with Dr. Debi: The PBT Institute: https://thepbtinstitute.com Work with Dr. Debi: https://thepbtinstitute.com/live/ -
480: What Remarkable People Know About Trust, Privacy, and Living with Integrity 29.06.2026 50минGuest: Guy Kawasaki — Chief Evangelist, Canva · Author · Host of Remarkable People What happens when one of Silicon Valley's most trusted voices—the man who helped launch the Macintosh and now serves as Chief Evangelist for Canva—sits down to talk about betrayal, broken trust, and what it takes to live with integrity? You get a conversation that's honest, provocative, and deeply human. In this episode, Dr. Debi Silber is joined by Guy Kawasaki—bestselling author, legendary tech evangelist, and host of the Remarkable People podcast—to explore the life lessons behind his books Everybody Has Something to Hide and Think Remarkable. From why every person needs to think about digital privacy to how billionaires lost their way, this conversation covers it all. What you'll hear in this episode: Why "I have nothing to hide" is the wrong test for digital privacy — and what the billboard test reveals about your real exposure The erosion of institutional trust and why even Apple isn't above scrutiny when fiduciary pressure meets user privacy Guy's three-part framework for a life well lived: learn, earn, return — and why so many billionaires are stuck in "burn" The growth mindset, Carol Dweck, and why remarkable people never stop learning (including a story about a 78-year-old PhD student) Planting seeds: the acorn experiment that became a masterclass in perseverance and probability Trusting the dots — how Guy went from counting diamonds at a jewelry manufacturer to becoming Chief Evangelist of one of the world's fastest-growing tech companies, without a plan The valuable + unique matrix: the one framework that explains why the iPod succeeded and why most people stay invisible What Guy would say to a tech billionaire he ran into at a coffee shop today Navigating hearing loss as a podcast host — and what it taught him about perseverance How to make your decision right, not just make the right decision Books mentioned: Everybody Has Something to Hide by Guy Kawasaki (available free — see below) Think Remarkable by Guy Kawasaki Mindset by Carol Dweck Grit by Angela Duckworth Guy's free book offer: Email [email protected] for the English Kindle edition, or [email protected] for the Spanish edition (U.S. only). Outside the U.S.? Download both versions free at guykawasaki.com. Connect with Guy Kawasaki: Website: guykawasaki.com Podcast: Remarkable People (available wherever you listen) Connect with Dr. Debi Silber and The PBT Institute: Find your resources at thePBTinstitute.com -
479: What 73,500 People Revealed About Betrayal, Recovery, and Why Most Approaches Don't Work 22.06.2026 26минToday is the day. The State of Betrayal Report — the most comprehensive research publication on betrayal recovery ever produced — is live. And I wanted the people who have been on this journey with me to hear about it here first, not through a social post or an email. In this solo episode, Dr. Debi Silber walks you through everything the research found: the behavioral impact data, the physical and cognitive symptom findings, the emotional burden numbers, and the one finding that stopped her more than any other. She also shares the three research discoveries that changed how we understand betrayal — and what they mean for anyone who has been through it, anyone who works with people healing from it, and any organization dealing with the cost of broken trust. If you've been trying to heal and still feel stuck — this episode is for you. Key Stats from This Episode: 94.7% of respondents are still being triggered by their betrayal 93.6% want to move forward but don't know how 91.67% are hesitant to trust again 96.9% experience at least one physical symptom since their betrayal 82% feel overwhelmed as a consistent baseline state 73% cannot focus · 68% cannot concentrate 99.43% experience at least one emotional symptom The median commitment to healing among 73,500+ respondents is 10 out of 10 The Three Research Discoveries: Betrayal is a different type of trauma — and requires a different path to heal Post Betrayal Syndrome® (PBS®) — a consistent, measurable cluster of symptoms that appears across cultures and betrayal types The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ — a universal, data-driven pathway from betrayal to transformation Links Mentioned: 📄 The State of Betrayal Report (free) → thepbtinstitute.com/state-of-betrayal-report 📝 Free PBS® Assessment → thepbtinstitute.com 🎯 Betrayal to Breakthrough: Live → thepbtinstitute.com/live 🎓 PBT® Certification Program → thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified -
478: Feeling Better About Feeling Bad: A Philosopher's Case for Dark Moods 15.06.2026 45минGuest: Mariana Alessandri, PhD — existentialist philosopher, author, and self-described "defender of dark moods" If you've ever been told to "choose happy," "stay positive," or "look on the bright side" while your world was falling apart — this episode is for you. Dr. Debi Silber sits down with philosopher Mariana Alessandri to explore why our society's obsession with toxic positivity is actually hurting the people who are suffering most. Mariana, author of a groundbreaking book on dark emotions (covering anger, sadness, grief, depression, and anxiety), brings a refreshing and deeply compassionate philosophical lens to the emotions we're taught to hide, suppress, or apologize for. In this episode you'll discover: Why the pressure to "be positive" has an insidious underbelly — and how it turns us against ourselves The difference between saying "I'm broken" and "I'm in deep pain" — and why it matters How souls connect more deeply in suffering than in joy (and the philosophy behind it) The two wolves parable — and why starving the dark wolf may be keeping you stuck Why anger deserves a hearing, not a judgment — and how it can be a form of self-care The concept of "sympathetic resonance" and what heartstrings have to do with empathy Why sharing your pain is a gift — not a burden — and how to find the people you can trust with it How to talk about your pre-betrayal self with dignity, not shame Mariana's two takeaways for everyone: It's not your job to cheer people up — and sharing pain is a gift, not a burden. Connect with Mariana Alessandri: Website: marianalessandri.com Instagram: @mariana.alessandri Resources mentioned: Night Side of Nature (Mariana's book — chapters on anger, sadness, grief, depression, and anxiety) Philosophers referenced: Miguel de Unamuno, Audre Lorde, Maria Lugones, Aristotle, the Stoics, Epicureans The two wolves parable Susan Caine's concept of "bittersweet" -
477: Betrayal, Karma & the 5D Shift: How to Stop Repeating Painful Patterns and Finally Heal 08.06.2026 35минGuest: Liane Marie Lambert — intuitive guide, energy alchemist, and transformation coach helping people move from karmic cycles into conscious, high-vibration living. What if everything you've been through wasn't happening to you — but for you? In this episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Liane Marie Lambert to explore some of the most profound (and often misunderstood) truths about betrayal, karma, and human evolution. If you've ever wondered why you keep recreating the same painful experiences, or what it actually means to raise your vibration, this conversation is going to stop you in your tracks. Liane brings a perspective that's as grounding as it is expansive — weaving together the science of energy, the law of karmic entanglement, and the very real possibility that we are all, right now, in the middle of the greatest evolution humanity has ever witnessed. In this episode, you'll discover: What karma actually is — and why the "tit for tat" version you learned is keeping you stuck The karmic loophole: how you can energetically attract what you don't consciously agree to Why your body always knows the truth — even when your words don't How to tell the difference between your ego and your Higher Self The 3D to 5D shift: what it is, what it feels like, and how to step into it Why you are already a manifester — just possibly from a low vibration How to become an alchemist of your own energy and experience The one thing that will accelerate your evolution faster than anything else Liane's final message: Trust your intuition. That's where the magic is. Connect with Liane Marie Lambert: Website & coaching: https://www.lianemarielambert.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lianemarielambert_official TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lianemarielambert Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://thepbtinstitute.com -
476: From the Olympic Track to Betrayal Recovery 01.06.2026 30минWhat do the Olympic Games and betrayal recovery have in common? More than you'd think. In this powerful episode, Dr. Debi sits down with former Olympian and transformational speaker Cherita O'Dell — who represented Barbados in the long jump at the 1996 Atlanta Centennial Games — for a conversation that is equal parts raw, inspiring, and deeply practical. Cherita's Olympic story isn't the one you'd expect. She qualified with a national record jump made in anger after a frustrating moment with her coach. Then, days before her event, she tore her hamstring in three places on a rain-soaked runway — and watched her own event from the Olympic dorm on TV. It was, as she describes it, "the highest and lowest point of my life at the exact same time." But what followed — the bounce back, the resilience, the refusal to stay crumpled in the sand — is exactly what makes Cherita's message so timely for anyone healing from betrayal. In this episode, you'll discover: The mindset of an elite Olympic athlete and what it teaches us about healing from betrayal How visualization before action rewires the body's response (and why it works the same way in recovery) What "Stop asking God to bless your plans — make decisions God can bless" really means, and how to apply it The danger of letting the "love bug" override your discernment — and what to do instead Why "You complete me" is the most dangerous thing you can say in a relationship What true wholeness looks like before entering a relationship How to use betrayal as a pivot point into your best self Cherita's framework for post-betrayal growth — mourn it, enhance yourself, stay optimistic, and build filters for future discernment — maps beautifully onto The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™. This is one you won't want to miss. Connect with Cherita O'Dell: Website: https://cheritaodellspeaks.com/ Book: Good God, Help Me Out — goodgodhelpmeout.com Connect with Dr. Debi The PBT Institute: https://thepbtinstitute.com Watch the episode on Dr. Debi's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DebiSilber -
475: Why You're Not Falling Behind — The Truth About Betrayal Recovery 25.05.2026 31минIf you've been feeling like you're losing hope, hitting setbacks, or struggling to set boundaries — this episode is for you. Dr. Debi Silber is pulling straight from her recent coaching sessions to shine a spotlight on three of the most common themes she's seeing right now. And here's the thing: none of them mean you're failing. In fact, they're all part of the healing process. In this episode, Dr. Debi breaks down: 1. Losing Hope It's one of the most common experiences after betrayal — and one of the most dangerous if left unchecked. Dr. Debi explains why losing hope happens (especially when you're doing the work and your partner isn't), why "what you feed grows," and how her personal "transformation tunnel" technique can help you find evidence of forward movement, even when you can't feel it yet. 2. Setbacks Setbacks aren't signs that you're going backward. Like muscle fibers that must tear to rebuild stronger, the forward-and-back nature of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ is by design. Dr. Debi unpacks why triggers losing their charge, waves of unexpected grief, and difficult days are actually signs of growth — and how to acknowledge and celebrate them as such. 3. Boundaries Creating a new version of yourself after betrayal requires new boundaries — and new boundaries are never comfortable. Dr. Debi shares why boundaries are non-negotiable as you move toward Stage 4 and Stage 5, how to introduce them in both big and small ways, and why her favorite mantra — hard now, easy later — applies here more than anywhere. Whether you're rebuilding with someone, healing on your own, or somewhere in between, this episode will help you see your experience with fresh eyes and give yourself the credit you deserve. Resources Mentioned: Learn about The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™: https://thepbtinstitute.com Work with Dr. Debi (Private Sessions): https://thepbtinstitute.com/one-session-with-dr-debi/ PBT Certification for Coaches & Practitioners: https://thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified/ Speaking Inquiries: https://thepbtinstitute.com/speaking/ Connect with Dr. Debi Silber: 🌐 Website: https://thepbtinstitute.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/debisilber/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debisilber/ ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DebiSilber -
474: It's Never Too Late to Reinvent Yourself 18.05.2026 34минGuest: Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum, Founder & CEO of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA) From Betrayal to Breakthrough with Dr. Debi Silber Episode Overview What does it take to reinvent yourself — not once, but multiple times? In this warm and inspiring conversation, Dr. Debi Silber welcomes her dear friend Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum, a clinical psychologist, functional medicine expert, and founder of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA). Sandy launched FMCA at 65 and is now thriving in her late 70s — lifting weights, dancing ballet and tap, and training other health coaches to change lives. This episode is a masterclass in courage, identity, self-efficacy, and what becomes possible when you stop letting age (or other people's opinions) define you. Meet Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum Dr. Sandy Scheinbaum has worn many professional hats across five decades: Elementary education teacher — pivoted after struggling with classroom management Learning disabilities specialist — thrived in one-on-one settings Independent floor trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange — a short-lived but clarifying experiment Clinical and health psychologist — a long, fulfilling career specializing in chronic illness, biofeedback, and mind-body medicine Functional medicine practitioner — added certification to deepen her clinical work Founder & CEO of FMCA — launched at 65 to train health coaches in functional medicine and positive psychology principles What You'll Hear in This Episode Why failure and "career dead ends" are often the best redirects How Sandy tuned out the naysayers — including her own husband — and launched FMCA anyway The role courage, creativity, and community play in reinvention at any age Why identity is not fixed — and how midlife is a profound opportunity for identity development Sandy's daily movement routine: strength training, ballet, tap dance, yoga, and "exercise snacks" How self-efficacy — the belief that your actions matter — is the foundation of health transformation What happens to self-efficacy after betrayal, and how the right support can restore it How health coaches trained in positive psychology help clients reconnect with their strengths, purpose, and possibility The importance of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ in moving from stuck to transformed Key Takeaways Reinvention isn't a detour — it's the path. Every career "failure" in Sandy's life led her somewhere better. What looked like a dead end was actually a redirection toward greater meaning and purpose. Your identity is not fixed. Just as adolescence is a critical period for identity formation, so is midlife. You can try on new identities — athlete, entrepreneur, artist — at any stage of life. Movement is non-negotiable — but it's personal. Sandy didn't become athletic until her 70s. She now has more muscle than she did in her 40s. The key isn't a one-size-fits-all plan — it's finding what you enjoy and making it a habit. Self-efficacy is everything. The belief that your choices matter — in your health, your career, your healing — is the foundation of transformation. Betrayal often shatters that belief. A skilled coach helps rebuild it. You can't imagine where you'll end up — and that's okay. Just as no one could have imagined cell phones or AI, you cannot predict the fullness of what's ahead. The invitation is to start anyway. The "okay" is the most dangerous place. When things are fine but not fulfilling, many people stay stuck. The "okay" is what keeps people from reaching for more. Quotable Moments "Change is possible. You're never too old. It's never too late. And reinventing yourself is good." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum "When you are changing, you are mobilizing those underutilized parts of you that are tied into having greater meaning and purpose." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum "I train for my future self — so I can lift groceries, put things on the shelf, get down on the floor and get back up again." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum "Nothing good comes from embarrassment or shame." — Dr. Albert Ellis (cited by Dr. Scheinbaum) "The okay is the most soul-sucking thing." — Dr. Debi Silber About Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum is a clinical psychologist, functional medicine practitioner, and the founder and CEO of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA). She launched FMCA at age 65 to train health coaches in the principles of functional medicine and positive psychology. FMCA is now a nationally recognized program receiving top accolades and attracting talented practitioners from around the world. Sandy is also a dancer, weightlifter, yogi, and living proof that reinvention has no expiration date. Connect with Dr. Scheinbaum Website: functionalmedicinecoaching.org Instagram: @DrSandi Connect with Dr. Debi Silber & The PBT Institute Website: thepbtinstitute.com Podcast: From Betrayal to Breakthrough Book: UNSTUCK: The Practitioner's Guide to Moving Betrayal Clients from Survival to Transformation Learn about Post Betrayal Syndrome® and The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ at thepbtinstitute.com If this episode resonated with you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs a reminder that it's never too late to become who they're meant to be. -
473: 3 Things Betrayal Destroys That Show Up Everywhere 11.05.2026 36минAfter recovering from pneumonia, Dr. Debi returned to her microphone with a packed day — five podcast interviews across five completely different audiences. What she discovered was striking: no matter the industry, background, or life stage, three core wounds from betrayal kept surfacing in every single conversation. In this episode, Dr. Debi covers: Why she did five back-to-back podcast interviews in one day — and what the experience revealed The five audiences she spoke with: survivors of narcissistic relationships, women entrepreneurs, health coaches, sales teams, and leaders The three things betrayal shatters that quietly derail health, business, relationships, and performance — no matter how long ago the betrayal happened The Three Common Threads: 1. Trust Trust breaks differently depending on the arena — but it always breaks. Dr. Debi explores how shattered trust shows up in future romantic relationships after narcissistic betrayal, in the inability to form collaborative business partnerships, in clients who can't commit to a health plan, in salespeople who can't close, and in leaders who micromanage instead of delegate. And beneath all of it: the moment you stop trusting the person you trusted most, you stop trusting yourself — and your internal compass for discerning trustworthiness feels broken. 2. Confidence A shattered sense of confidence quietly sabotages everything. It keeps narcissistic abuse survivors from attracting healthy relationships. It stops women entrepreneurs from speaking boldly about their businesses. It shows up in health clients through emotional eating, exhaustion, and accelerated aging. It tanks sales numbers. And it undermines leaders who need their teams to feel steadiness and certainty — even in uncertainty. Dr. Debi notes that 47% of everyone who has been betrayed experiences weight changes, often rooted in this same confidence wound. 3. Beliefs Beliefs are the deepest layer — and the most overlooked. Dr. Debi shares her definition: a belief is the repetition of an idea from someone you trust. It doesn't have to be true to become yours. After betrayal — especially narcissistic betrayal with gaslighting — people absorb deeply disempowering beliefs: I'm not enough. I can't. I'll never. These beliefs drive every action, every result, and every ceiling. She walks through how limiting beliefs silently cap the success of entrepreneurs, block clients from following through on health plans, sink sales performance, and create a "stuckness" in leaders who can't break through to the next level. Key Insight: Rebuilding your life after betrayal is possible — and many people do it. But rebuilding your self — your trust, your confidence, your beliefs — is what moves you from Stage 3 to Stage 5 of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™. That's the difference between functioning and truly transforming. Dr. Debi Invites You To Reflect: Where is a lack of trust showing up in your relationships, your work, or your health? Where has shattered confidence gone unaddressed — and how is it limiting you today? What "I can't" or "I'll never" beliefs are quietly driving your decisions? Resources Mentioned: UNSTUCK: The Practitioner's Guide to Moving Betrayal Clients from Survival to Transformation — Dr. Debi's latest book, with guidance on identifying betrayal clients and the language that actually reachesthem The Post Betrayal Syndrome® Assessment — taken by over 100,000 people in 50+ countries; 84% of those betrayed report an inability to trust The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ The PBT Institute.com: https://thepbtinstitute.com Enjoyed this episode? Share it with someone who needs to hear it. And reach out to Dr. Debi — she'd love to know what resonated with you. -
472: Behind the Scenes with Dr. Debi — A Surprise Interview with My Daughter Camryn 04.05.2026 21минWhat happens when you hand the microphone to your daughter and tell her to ask whatever she wants — no prep, no filters? That's exactly what this episode is. My daughter Camryn sat down with me for a conversation I didn't see coming, asking questions designed to draw out the side of Dr. Debi that doesn't always show up in research discussions or keynote stages — the personal, the raw, the real. From what betrayal physically felt like in my body before I had any language for it, to what Stage Three actually looked like in our home, to what full transformation feels like at 60 with a grandchild on the way — this one goes places I rarely go publicly. If you've ever wondered what the behind-the-scenes life of someone who built the world's leading organization for betrayal recovery research, education and transformation looks like, this episode is for you. In This Episode: Why Dr. Debi prioritizes being the same person everywhere — and what that has to do with a world of shattered trust What betrayal felt like physically (hint: heartbreak is very real, and yoga almost broke her) What "functioning but not healed" — Stage Three — actually looked like in daily life The beliefs about betrayal she had to let go of that she never expected to question Her biggest fear about what her children would take from watching her go through it Why rebuilding with someone is harder than walking away — and what she learned from doing it What "wise trust" looks like now, and how it's different from before What Stage Five feels like in real life — 40 people in formal wear jumping in the pool, coffee time at 6am, and not caring what anyone thinks What she would say to herself on D-Day, the day everything came out Camryn's reflection on watching her mother not just rebuild, but transform — and what that gave the whole family A Note from Dr. Debi: I didn't know the questions. I didn't prepare. And that was the whole point. Camryn wanted to pull out the heart — not the researcher, not the speaker — just me. I think she did. I hope something in this conversation reaches you wherever you are in your journey. And if you're in the depths of it right now: hard now, easy later. You're so much stronger than you think. Resources Mentioned: Trust Again by Dr. Debi Silber The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ From Betrayal to Breakthrough Podcast Connect with Dr. Debi: Website: thepbtinstitute.com Instagram: @debisilber If this episode moved you, share it with someone who needs it.
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