Chamomile & Clove

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 135 - DefCon Exorcism 19.05.2025 1ч 23мин

Clovers, It's time to unpick the plot threads of The Black Bird Oracle -- the obvious, the not so obvious, the compelling, and the unfinished. In this episode, we're talking about narrative questions, narrative and narrator choices, and the impact of TBBO on the rest of what we know about the All Souls Universe. Thanks for joining us for TBBO -- it's been fun. If there's another book in the All Souls Universe, would you want us to (a) read it ahead of time (like we did with ADoW/SoN/BoL/TC); (b) read as we record (TBBO); or (c) one of us reads and the other doesn't? Let us know at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Take care of each other, Cait & Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 134 - Everything Is Time 04.05.2025 1ч 52мин

Well, well, well, Look at us! We made it to the end of The Black Bird Oracle! We're doing wrap episodes! Welcome to the first of two book-wrap discussion episodes for The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. In this episode, we will be discussing characters, antagonists and protagonists, character arcs, themes, devices, and symbols. Also, what's going on with birds? Yes we do have a mellow (by our standards) discussion of time. I promise that you won't need prophylactic headache management. xoxo Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 133 - An Average Bonanza 23.03.2025 1ч 21мин

Happy Sunday, Clovers. So pleased to be with you again. In this episode, we're covering Chapters 24-27 of The Black Bird Oracle. We've reached the end of the story... or have we? In this episode, we're talking about Diana's moral compass, antagonists, putting our protagonist in time out, what TBBO has to say about Higher Magic/Light and Shadow (we aren't entirely sure, guys), that damned creepy-ass doll, and whether the shape of the plot is any clearer at the end of the book. xoxo Cait and Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 132 - Didi Grabbyfingers 02.03.2025 1ч 13мин

Clovers, Happy Sunday! Welcome back to our discussion of The Black Bird Oracle. We made it to Venice (what), used Ysabeau as a distraction (smart), and conducted a teensy witch heist (wait, again?), but we still haven't quite met the antagonist for this book... or have we? In this episode, we're talking about Diana's character arc (...flatter than we expected?), her moral compass (wobbly), and the possibilities left by the last two chapters in this book. Thanks for joining us! xoxox, Cait and Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 131 - Memory Dentist 16.02.2025 1ч 31мин

Clovers, We have made it to part 3, or should we say book 3(?) of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. Things are happening fast and we have a plot to finish. Join us as we discuss family trauma, descriptions of teaching magic, use of kids in stories, favorite theories from the trilogy, and Diana's emotional intelligence (or lack thereof). xoxo Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 130 - Té Caliente y Picante 03.02.2025 1ч 22мин

Happy Sunday(?) Covers! In this episode we are discussing Ch. 19-20 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. There is tea aplenty. It is hot. It is also spicy. We are suddenly serving up some Bishop family secrets with a heavy dollop of trauma. But what else is new at the Bishop house? We are reeling, but so is Diana. How did we get here? We don't know, but we look forward to seeing what comes next and discussing it with all of you. Hypotheses abound. As an FYI, episode 131 may be a little late. Cait and I both have some life stuff going on in the next couple of weeks. As always, we will get back to you as soon as we are able. xoxo Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 129 - Null Juju in the Aphrodisiac Forest 19.01.2025 1ч 37мин

Clovers, Hi, hi. Happy 2025. January is always a bit of an odd, dark time -- we're in a slow season and everything is a little... off. You know, like perhaps the forest behind your family homestead puts off hallucinogenic fumes that take you on a sensual journey full of insects. We're getting ahead of ourselves. In this episode, we're talking about Chapters 17-18 of The Black Bird Oracle and it's a wild ride. There's symbolism, some odd garment choices, sentient hedges, biting fairies that live in your ancestor's hair, and some allusions to Alice in Wonderland that have us asking big questions like, "what drug lives in the Ravenswood?" We hope you enjoy it, Cait and Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 128 - Hot Dog? 23.12.2024 1ч 25мин

In this episode, we are discussing chapters 15&16 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. Honestly, we are feeling a bit unmoored by the middle of this book. In the first chapter up for discussion we're in a mystical battle, and in the next chapter we're getting ready for a garden party. Does anyone else have whiplash?

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 127 - It's Giving Baba Yaga 08.12.2024 1ч 32мин

In this episode, Cait and Jen discuss chapters 13 and 14 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. We've quickly gotten over the romp in the woods. We get an official tour of the grounds. We gather ghosts. Matthew and Diana still aren't on the same communication page. We might be having a potluck. Is anyone worried about Tamsy the doll?

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 126 - Dances With Ravens 10.11.2024 1ч 13мин

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 125 - Oracle Grubber 28.10.2024 1ч 27мин

Happy er, Monday, Clovers. In this episode, we're tackling Chapters 9 and 10 of The Black Bird Oracle, which combines the witch version of a courtroom procedural with ancient mythology. We're talking about allegory, long-term relationships, continuity, structure, and more -- including whether we're setting up for another trilogy -- and we're delighted to have you with us. See you next time! xoxo Cait and Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 124 - Pro Hac Witchae 13.10.2024 1ч 33мин

In this episode we are discussing chapters 7 and 8 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. An episode so nice that we had to do it twice. Yes, the pod calamities do persist, but we're still here. This week we're chatting about magical power point, wands?, more Stephen, our Matthew arrival countdown, oracles, cards, and more. I left in all the giggles this time, because it feels like we all might need them. xoxo Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 123 - Oh Calamity 23.09.2024 1ч 35мин

Oh, Clovers. Have you ever had a month (ish) where nothing went your way? Where everything went a bit to a hell and sideways and pear-shaped and you just couldn't get your feet under you? That was, in effect, the last five (ish) weeks at C&C. Between work emergencies, sickness, power outages, internet crises, and the like, it took us eons to record this episode properly and get it to you. But, finally, here it is. In this episode, we're unpacking generational trauma and Diana behaving like a wrecking ball with the side of the family that she heretofore did not know existed. There are specters and a frankly awesome barn and more revelations about all the things Stephen apparently didn't want Diana to know. We'll be back on our regular cadence from here on out -- thanks for your grace and patience, as always. xoxo Cait and Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 122 - Ipswitches 12.08.2024 1ч 31мин

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 121 - This Bird Could Have Been An E-mail 31.07.2024 1ч 42мин

You guys. It's been two years, but with the publication of The Black Bird Oracle, we could not resist coming back. In this episode, we're catching up and finding our stride again as we cover Chapters 1-2 of Deborah Harkness's TBBO. We missed this, and we missed you. Looking forward to this next step into the universe of All Souls!

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 120 - Endings, Beginnings, Change 11.07.2022 54мин

Dearest Clovers, Today is a bittersweet day. In this episode, we're announcing our hiatus from podcasting. Both of us are about to embark upon major life changes and, 120 episodes and five years later, we think it's appropriate to give C&C an intermission. We hope to answer your questions in the episode, but here's a summary: we're planning a possible return if and when there's new material, but, for now, this seems like the best choice. Our episodes will remain on our website and on iTunes and Spotify and wherever you listen. We plan to use whatever support we continue to receive through Patreon to pay those costs, but we completely understand if now is not the time for you to remain a patron. We've been so lucky to have you. It's nearly impossible to put into words what a joy this project has been and how proud we are of all we have accomplished. It's not perfect, but it has always been a delight. Thank you for your kindness, your support, your warmth, your good humor, your deep thinking, and your immense love of the All Souls Trilogy. Should you want to get in touch, you can find us at chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Honor and long life to all, xox Cait and Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 119 - ADOWTV Series Wrap II - Gestalt Feelings 12.06.2022 1ч 11мин

Happy Sunday Clovers! Well, well, well, here we are with our penultimate discussion of A Discovery of Witches and the All Souls Universe. It's been quite the journey. We have so loved discussing this TV show with you all, and we know that it will continue to provide joy and delight for many years of re-watches to come. In this episode we're back on the trail of the great plot caper! That's right, team spreadsheet has reunited to bring you the ultimate plot discussion for A Discovery of Witches TV. Cait has tied in this plot discussion to the spreadsheets created for Episode 72 of the podcast (that's the one for the book trilogy plot discussion). In addition to diving into plots one more time, we are also discussing our ultimate favorites for the TV series: music, costumes, episodes, characters, scenes, and more. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners' group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you'd like to support the show, we'd love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon.

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 118 - ADOWTV Series Wrap I - Themelettes 29.05.2022 1ч 18мин

We are so pleased to be here to begin our discussion of the entirety of the TV series A Discovery of Witches. The moment when we saw the series premiere of the series at All Souls Con in 2018 seems both past and present as we end this television journey. Surely some of you can relate to this feeling. For this episode we are discussing characters and their relationships throughout he series, series-wide themes, and the adaptation and production as a whole. Deepest apologies for the background noise, particularly in Jen's audio. There was a heat wave and it was sweltering in her office so the window had to be open in order to avoid syncope. It has been edited out as much as possible. Download the episode here. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners' group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you'd like to support the show, we'd love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon.

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 117 - ADOWTV Wrap II - Plot Or Not 09.05.2022 1ч 6мин

This week, we're bringing you our seventh (!?) plot discussion episode covering Season 3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. We're doing a deep dive on the plot highlights of S3 and whether (or not) they follow a structure we've ever seen before. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners' group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you'd like to support the show, we'd love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. See you next time, xoxo Cait and Jen

Chamomile & Clove - An All Souls Podcast - Episode 116 - ADOWTV Wrap I - Arc Envy 24.04.2022 1ч 22мин

Happy Sunday, Clovers! Sorry for the brief delay in getting you this episode -- sometimes the external world plays tricks with our recording and editing schedule. Nonetheless -- we're bringing you our first wrap episode for S3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. In today's episode, we're talking about character arcs -- what makes a good arc, what makes a regressive character arc, and which characters in ADOWTV S3 have the best and most complete character arcs. We're also discussing some themes (redemption! justice? revenge? eternity! connectedness!) and some of our favorite moments of the final season. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for updates or to tell us how you felt about this episode. For between episodes fun and news, please follow our Facebook page or consider joining our listeners' group, the Chamomile & Clove Clovers. If you'd like to support the show, we'd love a review on iTunes or your pod-fetcher of choice or you can visit our Patreon. Until next time, xoxo Cait and Jen