Ernstfall – What if Russia Attacks NATO? Inside a German Wargame

Ernstfall – What if Russia Attacks NATO? Inside a German Wargame

WELT
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Senaste 01.07.2026

This podcast simulates a Russian attack on NATO's eastern flank, with German politicians, military officials, and experts role-playing the German government's response. The wargame, originally conducted in German, sparked international debate, leading to this English-language version. Over five episodes, listeners hear a crisis simulation that many European leaders hope never becomes reality. The podcast is produced by WELT, a German news outlet.

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  • Episode 2: Invasion 01.07.2026 31min
    In Episode 2, Germany’s crisis cabinet tries to move from reacting to taking the initiative. The Blue Team orders military exercises in Lithuania to demonstrate resolve. But the Bundeswehr is still in the process of building up its permanent brigade there. At the same time, the German government runs into another obstacle: Germany’s federal system requires constant coordination between Berlin and the sixteen federal states, slowing decision-making as the crisis accelerates. Within NATO, surveillance flights are stepped up to build a clearer picture of Russian troop movements. Then the situation changes once again. Russian forces cross into Lithuania, and what had begun as a hybrid crisis turns into a military invasion. Whether NATO can respond as one — and whether Germany can project strength abroad while maintaining stability at home — becomes the defining question. Script and Storytelling: Antonia Beckermann, Carolina Drüten Produced by: Marvin Schwarz If you enjoy the podcast, we’d be grateful if you could leave a rating or review. If you have questions or feedback, we’d love to hear from you at wargame@welt.de. The participants of the wargame: Blue Team (Germany) Chancellor: Peter Tauber Defense Minister: Roderich Kiesewetter Foreign Minister: Michael Roth Interior Minister: Irene Mihalic Finance Minister: Jörg Asmussen Government Spokesperson: Christiane Hoffmann Inspector General of the Bundeswehr: Eberhard Zorn President, Federal Office of Civil Protection: Christoph Unger Intelligence Chief: Gerhard Conrad Red Team (Russia) President: Alexander Gabuev Chief of the General Staff: Franz-Stefan Gady Foreign Minister: Arndt Freytag von Loringhoven International roles NATO Secretary General: Oana Lungescu U.S. Secretary of State: Jeff Rathke President of the European Commission: David McAllister Prime Minister of Poland: Bartłomiej Kot Note: With the exception of participants who spoke English in the original wargame, all English-language quotes are voiced by fellow journalists. The translations faithfully reflect the original statements. Imprint: https://www.welt.de/services/article7893735/Impressum.html Privacy Policy: https://www.welt.de/services/article157550705/Datenschutzerklaerung-WELT-DIGITAL.html
  • Episode 1: Deception 01.07.2026 30min
    Imagine this: It is October 2026. The day has barely begun when Germany’s federal government is confronted with its gravest security crisis in decades. In a fictional scenario, Russia is threatening NATO’s eastern flank while the United States is reluctant to become involved. To understand how Germany would respond under these conditions, WELT, together with the German Wargaming Center at Helmut Schmidt University of the German Armed Forces in Hamburg, conducted a high-level public wargame. We wanted to answer three questions: What happens if Russia attacks a NATO ally? How would Germany respond? And where are the weaknesses in its political decision-making? Germany is Europe’s largest economy, NATO’s logistical backbone on the continent and has pledged to build “the strongest conventional army in Europe”. Its response would shape the alliance’s reaction. Former senior politicians, military leaders and security experts spend a day stepping into the roles of Germany’s federal government and the Kremlin. While governments and armed forces regularly conduct wargames behind closed doors, we decided to make ours public. The project sparked a wide debate in Germany and internationally and is now available in English. In Episode 1, Germany’s crisis cabinet convenes for the first time. Faced with mounting chaos, the Blue Team must determine whether Russian troop movements near Lithuania are merely coercion — or the beginning of something far more dangerous. Script and Storytelling: Antonia Beckermann, Carolina Drüten Producer: Marvin Schwarz If you enjoy the podcast, we’d be grateful if you could leave a rating or review. If you have questions or feedback, we’d love to hear from you at wargame@welt.de. The participants of the wargame: Blue Team (Germany) Chancellor: Peter Tauber Defense Minister: Roderich Kiesewetter Foreign Minister: Michael Roth Interior Minister: Irene Mihalic Finance Minister: Jörg Asmussen Government Spokesperson: Christiane Hoffmann Inspector General of the Bundeswehr: Eberhard Zorn President, Federal Office of Civil Protection: Christoph Unger Intelligence Chief: Gerhard Conrad Red Team (Russia) President: Alexander Gabuev Chief of the General Staff: Franz-Stefan Gady Foreign Minister: Arndt Freytag von Loringhoven International roles NATO Secretary General: Oana Lungescu U.S. Secretary of State: Jeff Rathke President of the European Commission: David McAllister Prime Minister of Poland: Bartłomiej Kot Note: With the exception of participants who spoke English in the original wargame, all English-language quotes are voiced by fellow journalists. The translations faithfully reflect the original statements. Imprint: https://www.welt.de/services/article7893735/Impressum.html Privacy Policy: https://www.welt.de/services/article157550705/Datenschutzerklaerung-WELT-DIGITAL.html
  • Trailer: Ernstfall – What if Russia Attacks NATO? 29.06.2026 2min
    What if Russia attacked NATO? How would Germany respond? And where are our weaknesses? We wanted answers. In a wargame, we simulate an attack on NATO’s eastern flank. Politicians, former military officials, and experts take on the roles of the German government for a day. A second team plays the Kremlin. The wargame triggered an international debate. It's the reason we decided to publish our results in English as well. In this five-part podcast, you'll hear a simulation of a crisis that many European leaders hope will never happen. Script and Storytelling: Antonia Beckermann, Carolina Drüten Production: Marvin Schwarz If you enjoy the podcast, we’d love to see your ratings on the podcast platforms. If you have any questions, suggestions, or feedback, feel free to comment below the episode or email us at wargame@welt.de. Legal Notice: https://www.welt.de/services/article7893735/Impressum.html Privacy Policy: https://www.welt.de/services/article157550705/Datenschutzerklaerung-WELT-DIGITAL.html

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