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  #32: Daniel Humm - Total Work of Heart 16.09.2026 1h 14min

  At the summit of fine dining, success can feel like a treadmill. Your signature dish becomes an obligation. You work to maintain accolades, not be surprised by them. You are coordinating more than creating.Daniel Humm knows the feeling. After taking Eleven Madison Park to three Michelin stars and the title of best restaurant in the world, he reopened after the pandemic with a radical proposition: an entirely plant-based menu. In a business defined by animal entrées, vegetables would have to carry the room. This was interpreted by many as a political statement, though in this interview I realized it was to twist the knob on his own creative energy through self-imposed constraints. This is the restless mind of a former professional cyclist who takes an athletic approach to artistry. No vegan restaurant had earned three Michelin stars. Humm wanted to be first, which they did handily.This is the tao of Daniel: Set a goal, achieve it, then change the rules on yourself for the thrill of climbing new peaks. Twice through our conversation, Humm quotes Willem de Kooning: “I have to change to stay the same.”He seems to draw more inspiration from artists outside food than from within it: Philip Guston abandoning abstraction, Miles Davis going electric, Monet’s water lilies. He invokes Gesamtkunstwerk (German for "Total Work of Art"), to describe a restaurant where food, room, people, and feeling form one composition. Every dimension has been pushed with love and craft.What surprised me when we first met was his calm. Humm’s standards are exacting, but his presence is almost breezy (that's a good thing, I assure him). We discuss the harder origins of his ambition, how he builds a kitchen where “it’s cool to care,” and how he leads with the standards he sets.We also follow that ambition beyond the dining room: Rethink Food’s work feeding underserved communities, and Riff, a dinner-in-a-box business he’s building with my longtime friend and Sir Kensington’s co-founder, Mark Ramadan. The proposition: $6.99 meals for two that are easy to whip together or an extended creative endeavor, should you so choose. For a chef used to composing an entire evening, the challenge is clear: make an ordinary Tuesday worth gathering around, and nudge home cooks to keep twisting the knob on their own artistry. Full disclosure, I'm a small investor.Along the way, we discuss meditation, the emotional utility of ice cream, and a Japanese rice dish cooked in clay.This is Daniel Humm, At Large.-03:09 Creative constraints: making a hard job harder13:11 Changing course at Eleven Madison Park16:58 The athlete behind the chef25:22 It's cool to care: culture and leadership37:12 Looking beyond the kitchen: art and reinvention41:38 A little more Miles: jazz as a North Star44:59 Monet and the art of being moved46:58 Gesamtkunstwerk: the total work of art49:39 Rethink Food: a bigger table52:36 Riff: fine-dining thinking for weeknight dinner1:01:28 Searching for the light: meditation and balance1:06:24 Off the Cuff: good taste and bad-day ice cream1:11:30 One Good Recipe: Japanese clay-pot riceSpecial Thanks to Wiz from Spacecadet and Mark Ramadan for making this episode what it was
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  #31: W. David Marx - Blank Space Invader 15.01.2026 1h 15min

  W. David Marx lives in Tokyo, which is perhaps the only place left on earth where one can still observe culture operating according to pre-internet logic—where scarcity creates value, where obscurity breeds desire, where you still have to know a guy to know about the thing. From this vantage point, thirteen time zones away from the algorithmic churn of American pop culture, Marx has written what may be the first comprehensive autopsy of our current century.Blank Space: A Cultural History of the 21st Century arrives with a thesis that feels both obvious and devastating: we are living through a period of unprecedented cultural stagnation. Not the absence of content (God knows we're drowning in content) but the absence of the kind of radical creative invention that used to mark historical time. The innovations that made us say "everything is different now." The art that divided generations. The subcultures that became countercultures that became cultures.Marx's argument is structural, not conspiratorial. No one woke up and decided to lobotomize culture. Rather, a series of incentive structures like smartphone ubiquity, advertising precision, algorithmic optimization, quantified validation, and now generative AI, aligned to reward the immediately popular over the lastingly meaningful. The result is what Marx calls the "omnivore monoculture": a glossy, cross-pollinated, infinitely remixable soup where everything can fuse with everything else because nothing means much anymore.The book traces a brutal arc: from the nerd internet of the early 2000s (when 2 million monthly views made you the biggest blog on earth) to the attention economy of the 2020s (where MrBeast's craft isn't storytelling but thumbnail optimization). From Paris Hilton as cautionary tale to Paris Hilton as misunderstood girlboss. From "selling out" as the ultimate sin to Jimmy Iovine getting a hagiographic HBO documentary for his entrepreneurial genius at making artists more commercial.Marx is often accused of elitism, a charge he neither fully accepts nor entirely denies. His defense is pragmatic: the formulaic pop culture we consume today is always parasitic on innovation from the past. Hip-hop invented on the margins now powers billions of people's daily entertainment. If you don't maintain the conditions for radical invention, the entire system becomes—and here's where he'll lose the optimists—cooked.The stakes, it turns out, aren't just aesthetic. They're about whether we can maintain the capacity for the kind of creative disruption that refreshes culture, that makes us see the world differently, that gives us new ways to understand what it means to be human. Without it, we're left with an ever-more-polished version of what we already have—which is to say, we're living in the blank space.Ladies and gentlemen, I present W. David Marx, at large.Topics:00:35 Introducing W. David Marx and His Book 'Blank Space'02:28 Writing the Cultural History of the 21st Century06:38 The Influence of Financial and Technology Platforms on Culture12:48 "Poptimism" and the Shift in Cultural Values17:56 The Rise of "Omnivore Monoculture"28:05 The Impact of the Internet on Cultural Production39:00 The Evolution of Food Culture in the Internet Era42:02 The Rise of Restaurant Reservations as Status Symbols44:21 MMA and UFC as a Cultural Artifact48:37 "The Zynternet" and the Counter-Counterculture01:00:38 The Artistic Mindset in the 21st Century01:07:08 At Large and Off the Cuff + Collard Greens RecipeReferences:Blank Space - A Cultural History of the 21st CenturyDavid's InstagramDavid Halberstine - The 50sAmetoraStatus and CultureThe Defiant OnesGeeseLil Nas X - Old Town RoadDJ Danger Mouse - The Grey AlbumThe Weeknd - House of BalloonsHow to Succeed in Mr Beast ProductionBed Intruder VideoThe RehearsalThe Chair CompanyAdam Smith's Invisible HandHonor Levy - My First Book--@swhnortonhttp://atlargeshow.com
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  #30: Raed Khawaja - Breath & Work 23.12.2025 58min

  On a sun-bleached afternoon in Venice, California, where the ghost of the counterculture still haunts every exposed-brick studio and cosmic juice bar, Raed Khawaja sits beneath an iconic skylight that once illuminated the work of James Turrell and Robert Irwin. The light here is different. Anyone who's spent time in Los Angeles knows this instinctively: it's the reason artists have migrated west for generations, chasing something ineffable in the quality of atmospheric illumination itself.Khawaja, the CEO and co-founder of Open, has built something curious in this space. Not quite a studio, not quite a sanctuary, not quite a brand, though it is emphatically all three. Open offers breathwork, meditation, and movement practices in a market so thoroughly saturated with wellness grifters, Instagram yogis, and overpriced adaptogens that even using the word "wellness" has become an act of self-incrimination. Khawaja knows this. "I hate that word," he admits without hesitation.Yet here we are, in perhaps the most self-consciously well square mile in America, where green juice costs $16 and everyone you meet is either microdosing, macrodosing, or preparing a 30-day reset that will definitely, finally, be the one that sticks. The contradictions are almost too obvious to catalogue: the abundance masquerading as asceticism, the consumption marketed as consciousness, the $200 leggings required for the privilege of learning to simply breathe. We can do better, and thankfully, Raed knows this.Khawaja's background—PepsiCo, Bank of America, the machinery of billion-dollar brands—suggests someone who understands exactly what he's doing. He describes himself as "the anti-guru," more interested in curation than revelation, in stripping away the mystical theater to reveal what actually works. Open's synthesis of breathwork, sound, and movement into something immediate and accessible represents, if not an invention, then a thoughtful construction of building blocks.The timing feels urgent. Gen Z is 50% religiously unaffiliated, up from 8% in the early nineties. Mental health diagnoses have reached crisis levels. And now, artificial intelligence threatens to render our last claim to uniqueness (our cognitive superiority) utterly obsolete. "We're entering a purpose and meaning crisis," Khawaja observes, and he's not wrong. When machines can think, what's left for us?This is the existential backdrop against which Open operates: a secular space for seeking in an increasingly untethered age, located in a neighborhood that has always attracted seekers, housed in a building that once belonged to artists obsessed with perception itself. The symbolism borders on too perfect, which is perhaps the point.What follows is a conversation we recorded in his space with a live audience, about altered states and applied philosophy, about what it means to build something genuine in a landscape of post-consumerist materialism, and about whether we're all just one good breath away from figuring this whole thing out—or at least getting through the day without doom-scrolling ourselves into oblivion.Topics:01:31 Taste of a Guided Breath Work Session03:40 The Philosophy Behind Open07:31 Raed's Journey and Creation of Open14:42 The Role of Religion and Spirituality Today19:47 Community and Connectivity in Modern Wellness29:05 AI and the Future of Humanity33:48 The Purpose of Education in the Age of AI34:27 Techno-Optimism and the Future36:42 The Human Experience and Altered States39:17 The Role of Drugs in Society41:22 Balancing and Integration47:31 At Large and Off The Cuff: Quickfire57:35 Conclusion and FarewellLinks:OpenRaed's InstagramHolotropic BreathworkHamilton MorrisAreteKikagaku Moyo---📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️http://atlargeshow.com
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  #29: Nick Guillen - Happy Savage 05.11.2025 54min

  My guest today is Nick Guillen, co-founder of Truff, the brand that dared to ask: what if hot sauce had swag? What started as an Instagram handle became a culinary empire, it's sold at nearly every major grocery store, served at Starbucks, and backed by Kim Kardashian’s investment firm. But behind the viral moments and celebrity co-signs is something deeper: a commitment to craft that borders on obsession.In this episode, we'll hear how Nick and his co-founder didn't just build a brand, they've architected a vibe, pulling inspiration from the worlds of streetwear, luxury fashion, and internet culture to bottle something that felt improbably both exclusive and accessible. And of course, you'll get a premier on truffles.Please enjoy my conversation with the meticulous, magnetic, and mildly spicy Nick Guillen.Show Notes:Truff's Instagram, @SauceNick's InstagramSearch Engine - A Dubai Chocolate Theory of the InternetJon BuscemiThe War of Art Radha Arora on Gstaad Guy podcastChapters:01:24 Understanding Truffles and Umami04:21 The Origin of Truff: From Instagram to Culinary Empire05:47 Building a Brand: The @Sauce Handle07:28 Creating a Singular Hot Sauce18:48 The Influence of Fashion and Streetwear23:56 Social Media Evolution and Retail Expansion31:31 Building a Cool Team32:24 Partnerships with Restaurants34:50 The Rise of Hot Sauce in America36:25 Fundraising and Celebrity Endorsements38:53 Leadership Culture and Bias for Action 42:03 At Large and Off The Cuff52:21 Omlette Recipe📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️⁠www.atlargeshow.com⁠…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #28: Wiz (Spacecadet) - Moonshot Mythmaker 10.09.2025 1h 15min

  Following in the tradition of artists before him like Madonna and Prince, our guest today refers to himself by a single name: Wiz. Wiz is co-founder and general partner of Spacecadet ventures, which invests in breakthrough technologies at the edge of impossible. But why did I choose Wiz to be the first investor interviewed on At Large? As Wiz says, technology may be the fuel, but storytelling is the oxygen. A creative marketer by background, Wiz partners with early stage companies on story sprints and vision quests to help shape what might be a wonky technology into an infectious narrative arc. He tells us about some of the moonshot ideas he's backed, how he evaluates founders (which he calls space cadets), and we'll get into our shared love of cooking over open flame. This is Wiz from Spacecadet, At Large.Topics Mentioned:Spacecadet VenturesSpacecadet's Fund I DeckWiz on TwitterRijksmuseumThe Dutch East India CompanyRainmakerGlitterbombsParallax WorldsFrancis Mallmann - Chef’s Table EpisodeNomaBeurre Monté01:26 – The American Dream is a Psyop08:00 – Startup Storytelling10:00 – The Theater of Fundraising14:10 – Make It Rain: The Moonshot Called Rainmaker27:00 Betting on the Dreamer not the Deck37:00 – Reframing Narritives: Parallax Worlds Digital Twins  47:20 – The AI Bubble & Sources of Edge in AI 56:00 – Talking Food: Cooking with Fire, Francis Mallmann, Noma01:06:00 – At Large and Off The Cuff
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  #27: Jerry Greenberg - Obsession Served Raw 09.07.2025 50min

  Working from a home office outfitted with a built-in test kitchen, Jerry Greenberg has launched six distinct restaurant concepts—from elevated sushi to handmade pasta to Philly cheesesteaks. The most iconic of these is Sugarfish, a cult-favorite sushi chain revered for its meticulous yet effortless approach to the dining experience. Tall, trim, and totally composed, Jerry is not what you picture when you hear “restaurateur.” Yes, he once took a tech company public in the ’90s, but don’t mistake him for the money guy. For Jerry, it’s all about the food. In this conversation, Jerry shares how he and his partners treat each concept like a Rubik’s cube, twisting every detail until it clicks. From menu to lighting to timing, every element serves a singular mission: to deliver that one transcendent bite when a guest says, “Damn, that’s good.” On this show, I seek out “business artists.” These are artists who build a business to get their creations into the world, and businesspeople who approach company building with the intentionality of an artist. Jerry fits both of these definitions. Please enjoy my conversation with a restaurateur, business artist, and obsessive entrepreneur. This is Jerry Greenberg, At Large. Show Links: Sugarfish Nozawa Bar Kazu Nori Hi Ho Cheeseburger Uovo  Matu Sugarfish’s Rice Cookers First Light Farms Grass Fed Beef Unagi Peter Bjorn and John - Young Folks 📸@swhnorton  🐦@swhnorton 🖥️www.atlargeshow.com ……. This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services.  Did you enjoy this episode? Leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #26: Missy Robbins - The Pasta Whisperer 28.05.2025 58min

  Today’s guest is culinary powerhouse Missy Robbins. Chef and co-owner of the acclaimed Lilia and Misi in Brooklyn, she’s written standout cookbooks and carved her reputation one hand-rolled pasta shape at a time.  But this conversation isn't just about accolades. It’s about brinksmanship. Missy opens up about nearly walking away from cooking altogether, and the unlikely business partner who nudged her to greatness, changing her course, and maybe her fate. She tells the story of transforming a derelict auto body shop into one of New York’s most coveted tables. And we host a game show segment where I quiz Missy on increasingly obscure pasta shapes, and she tests my knowledge of condiments to see if I’m a sauce boss, or a sauce fraud. Here’s Missy Robbins, at large. Show Links: Milan: Butter and Olive Oil Missy’s Instagram NYTimes: Missy Robbins to Leave A Voce NYTimes: Missy Robbins Embraces Simplicity at Misi Worcestershires meme  Pasta: The Spirit and Craft of Italy’s Greatest Food (Amazon) 📸@swhnorton  🐦@swhnorton 🖥️www.atlargeshow.com ……. This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services.  Did you enjoy this episode? Leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #25: Humberto Leon - Master of Ceremony 30.04.2025 52min

  Humberto Leon has spent his life setting the cultural thermostat — somehow always staying a few degrees ahead. He has an uncanny ability to sniff out the world around him, stay true to his personal taste, and craft something that people are attracted to from across the room – or across the city – or across the ocean. A vibesmith of the highest order. Quick background on Humberto: Alongside Carol Lim, he co-founded Opening Ceremony, the first-of-its-kind concept store that redefined retail by curating global designers and pioneering the high-low collaborations that now crowd every brand’s playbook. Four store locations later, the leadership pair was tapped by LVMH to revive Kenzo — a turnaround that didn’t just restore the label but multiplied its size tenfold and returned it to profitability. After selling Opening Ceremony, Humberto came home to Los Angeles, where he opened Chifa — a vibrantly electric Peruvian-Chinese restaurant that’s as much a mood as it is a meal (and where we filmed this episode). And because one life is apparently not enough, he’s also the creative director behind Katseye, a K-pop-inspired girl group pushing the boundaries of style and sound. There’s more — there’s always more with Humberto — but it’s time to let him tell it. Show Links: Humberto’s Instagram Opening Ceremony Kenzo Chifa Restaurant Katseye Hybe Wong Kar Wai Food Mahjong Club  📸@swhnorton  🐦@swhnorton 🖥️www.atlargeshow.com ……. This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services.  Did you enjoy this episode? Leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below. TIMECODES: 00:00 - Introduction to Humberto Leon 03:27 - Humberto Quits to Start Opening Ceremony  08:05 - How Havaianas Flip Flops Blew Up OC 14:29 - Humberto’s View on Collaborations 18:41 - Humberto’s Take on the Current Fashion Industry 23:14 - The Pitch to Kenzo 28:51 - The Infamous Kenzo Tiger Sweatshirt 31:00 - Private Equity comes to Opening Ceremony  33:20 - KATSEYE and Empowering Female Voices  38:35 - CHIFA: a Restaurant Ode to his Mother 44:05 - At Large & Off The Cuff
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  #24: Eric Wareheim- Acquired Tastes 09.04.2025 1h 4min

  Hunter S. Thompson said: “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.” Perhaps there is no truer living practitioner of professional weirdness than Eric Wareheim, a polymath of life’s pleasures.If you've heard of Eric Wareheim, you already know that he's one of the greatest living minds in comedy. You practically couldn't press play fast enough when you saw his name pop up in your feed.And if you haven't heard of Eric Wareheim, don't be ashamed - you're in for a treat. His breakout show, Tim & Eric Awesome Show Great Job! is a genre-defining masterstroke of absurdist television. I’ve linked a bunch of clips from this show and his other work below for you to watch and laugh uncontrollably.But even if you have heard of Eric, did you know he wrote a cookbook, called Foodheim and has another one on the way called Steak House? Do you know he makes really good natural wine under the brand Las Jaras? Did you know his production company abso-lutely produced other groundbreaking shows like Nathan for You and the Eric Andre show?Well, today, at Eric's loft, which he calls Loftheim, we sit down to talk about all of those projects and more. I loved hearing his story about how he and Tim Heidecker first got Bob Odenkirk's attention to break into Hollywood. I was thrilled to hear the unexpected creative inspiration behind their shows, and how Eric is paying it forward by creating space for other renegade humorists to give their gifts.On this show, Eric treats me to a tasting of Las Jaras, educating me about natural wine, and I reciprocate with a pairing of Sir Kensington's mustard and pretzels. Enjoy my conversation with the prolific, hilarious, and professionally weird Eric Wareheim.Show Links: Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! Tim Heidecker Las Jaras Wines Eric’s Instagram (Top Food Blog®)  Zone Theory The Sopranos A Clockwork Orange MyEggs Bob Odenkirk Hot Air Balloon Prank Call (Timanderic.com via Internet Archive 2002) Tim and Eric Bedtime Stories: Sauce Boy The Universe (Parts I, II, III) Foodheim book Steak House book Absolut On Ice Raj Parr Tiny Hats 📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #23: Sophia Amoruso - Sauce Boss meets Girlboss 05.03.2025 53min

  Our guest today is Sophia Amoruso, founder of the first internet native fashion brand, Nasty Gal. Since growing Nasty Gal to global prominence and then taking it through a sudden bankruptcy sale, she’s subsequently founded three other businesses including Trust Fund, her VC firm. Sophia coined the term #Girlboss, which is the name of her second business, a Netflix show based on her life, and the title of her memoir which spent 18 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list.I admire Sophia for her courage and action in the face of fear. Fear of failure and fear of not looking good can be overwhelming to the point of paralysis (certainly I am governed by these fears) but today we'll get into how Sophia has achieved a buoyancy to rise above them.Good brands transcend the reality of the businesses they represent, and in this show, she talks about what it's like for her personal brand to decouple from her lived experience - to the extent of taking a company through bankruptcy just as a Netflix series debuted about her company's success. Talk about cognitive dissonance.Sophia and I talk about the scrutiny put on female leaders, her recent rumspringa, what she thinks is cool right now in fashion and music, and I ask her to roast my outfit.Enjoy my conversation with Sophia Amoruso, a refreshingly real storyteller and entrepreneur who's dedicated to living on her own terms. Show Links: Sophia’s Instagram Nasty Gal #Girlboss the book Girlboss the TV show Girlboss the company Trust Fund Business Class Piero Umiliani Jackson C Frank - Cover Me in Roses Harley Pasternak’s Oatmeal Pancakes 📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #22: Daniel Goldhaber - Movies By Any Means Necessary 19.02.2025 54min

  Today's guest is director Daniel Goldhaber, who blends high-tension genre films with piercing social commentary. His 2018 debut feature, Cam, a provocative, psychological thriller about a camgirl's stolen identity marked him as a director unafraid to dig deep into the darker recesses of contemporary culture. Cam captivated audiences with an unexpectedly feminist perspective using a technique Goldhaber calls "sensory ethnography," while putting forth a vision of how horror can reflect the anxieties of our digital age.But if Cam was Goldhaber's statement of intent, his 2022 feature How to Blow Up A Pipeline solidified his place as a filmmaker with something to say. Boldly political yet tightly constructed, Pipeline is further proof that Goldhaber is mastering the art of genre with a conscience, a rarity in the landscape of popular cinema often content with spectacle over substance.Daniel's films and Daniel's life explore the tension between capitalism and activism, between creativity and the imperative of commerce. In this conversation, you'll hear the best parts about his film education at Harvard, how he crashed a party at Cannes to get his movie financed, and how a weekend raving in Berlin changed the course of his life forever. He gives us hot takes on how the film industry is unexpectedly changing, and on the ethical rationale of controversial climate activism.Call him a raconteur, a provocateur, but just don't call him an auteur - either way I have a feeling that Daniel's career as a filmmaker is just getting started. So whether you're listening to this conversation in 2024 or doing retrospective research in 2034, please enjoy my conversation with Daniel Goldhaber.Show Links:Cam (Film)How to Blow up a PipelineDaniel Goldhaber’s InstagramIssa MazzeiAnoraAuteur TheorySean BakerTangerine film Alex Hughes - Spacemaker ProductionsGolden Gate Nightclub - BerlinLongmont Potion CastleOmniprongHam on Rye - Tyler Taormina 📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #21: Dinara Kasko - Have Your Cake and Tweet It Too 05.02.2025 47min

  Dinara Kasko is a study in contrasts.The precision of an architect, with the soul of an artist. A playful crafter of haute patisserie, with the grit to escape a Russian invasion. The poise and perfection of a pastry chef, with the daring to dance for days in the dusty desert of Burning Man.There are pastry chefs, and then there’s Dinara Kasko—a woman who doesn’t just bake cakes but sculpts them, bending mousse and ganache into hypnotic geometric forms that feel more at home in an art gallery than a bakery display. She's been named one of the top entrepreneurial creatives on the 50 Best Restaurants list, with her creations served in patisseries from Qatar to California.But Kasko’s journey has been anything but conventional. Originally trained as an architect, she seamlessly translated her understanding of form and structure into the ephemeral beauty of pastry, creating silicone molds that turn cakes into intricate, almost otherworldly designs. They are mesmerizing in their complexity, precision, and – as she discovered 10 years ago – are perfectly instagrammable. Social media became her stage, and like any artist navigating the pleasures and sorrows of algorithm-induced fame, she has embraced both the opportunities and the challenges of a livelihood and a life lived largely online.Like many other guests of At Large, Dinara has made a living out of her exceptional creative abilities. However, unlike anyone else we've talked to, Dinara hails from Kharkiv, a region in Eastern Ukraine invaded by Russia in 2022, which remains under attack to this day. That year, she was forced to flee her beloved home city, leaving her pastry studio behind. She sought the refuge of a better life in Southern California with her young family of four. Here in America, she continues to build her business, refine her craft, and explore new outlets for expression and emotion at dance music festivals.On At Large, Kasko shares her remarkable journey of resilience, reinvention, and creativity in exile—along with a recipe for kefir pancakes that, like the chef herself, is equal parts tradition and transformation.Show Links: Dinara’s Instagram Dinara’s Pastry Molds Ottolenghi and the Cakes of Versailles  Dream State Burning Man Chris Luni (DJ)  Kefir Pancakes 📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #20: Nicolas Jammet - Greens to Greatness 22.01.2025 58min

  Henry Ford famously said, "If I had asked my customers what they wanted, they would have said a faster horse." When sweetgreen was founded in 2007, nobody was asking for a chain of fast casual salad restaurants. But sweetgreen reframes the question - how do you make healthy food convenient and cool?My guest today is Nicolas Jammet, one of the three co-founders of sweetgreen, and the one most responsible for its food. Sweetgreen is one of the great brands built by our generation that's found itself woven into the fabric of cosmopolitan culture. Seventeen years after opening its first location, sweetgreen now operates over 250 restaurants and, as of this recording, is valued at nearly $5 billion as a public company.I have known Nic for over 10 years, and sweetgreen has been a fantastic partner to Sir Kensington's, having used a number of our condiments over the years including our mayonnaise in the dressing of their famous Kale Caesar.In this conversation, we'll talk about what it takes to stick together as a trio of co-founders through thick and thin, the value of leadership coaching, how he approaches culinary innovation without alienating their audience, and how automation surprisingly helps hospitality rather than hinders it.Special thanks to Andrea Hernandez of Snaxshot whose readers submitted questions for Nic to answer in this interview.Please enjoy my conversation with the sultan of salad, Nicolas Jammet. —Special Announcement - LA Wildfires:We recorded this conversation in December of last year. However, as of this writing, disastrous wildfires in Los Angeles have displaced over 10,000 people and taken 25 lives over the past two weeks. Los Angeles is where I live along with many of our guests, and where we record the show. While the fires are now largely contained, it's been a traumatic moment. If you've suffered as a result of these fires, I have all the faith in your resilience a - even in the face of uncertainty. If you've in any way been part of the relief effort, on behalf of everyone whose lives have been derailed - I give you my genuine thanks, including to Nic, our guest on today’s show. As an LA-based company, Sweetgreen has been focusing the past two weeks on supporting its community and providing meals for firefighters, first responders and displaced families. To support Los Angeles wildfire relief efforts as a volunteer or donor visit:: https://lacity.gov/LAstrong                              —Website Show Notes: La Caravelle  Keith Miller Row 7 Seeds Dan Barber The Third Plate Snaxshot by Andrea Hernandez  The Anxious Generation Jen Stark  Austyn Weiner Leong Leong Architecture Support Los Angeles wildfire relief efforts: https://lacity.gov/LAstrong                              📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #19: Thomas Kemeny - Writing Your Way Ahead 08.01.2025 54min

  Mike Tyson said, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” That's how I feel every time I try to write something. You don't really realize how hard writing is until you actually sit down and do it. If it’s any consolation, just remember the copywriting law of physics from this episode’s guest: If a problem exists, so does the solution.Thomas Kemeny has made a career writing for advertising, one of the most challenging written mediums. You need the copy to sell, but it can't be salesy. It's gotta make people smile, but you can't come off as trying to be funny. The shorter the better, but make sure to pack in all the features and benefits. Got it?For people who have practiced this all their life, like Thomas, writing for advertising is an art, a science, and a business. And for the rest of us to learn, Thomas wrote one of the very few books on how to write advertising copy. The book is called Junior, and today we'll talk about many of the lessons he shares in this book.In this episode, Thomas will take us through copywriting exercises to generate headlines using the shortcuts and “dirty tricks” the industry has used for decades. He talks about how his creative process involves tricking your brain into never thinking it’s done, so that you can push from the logical and into the nonsensical before arriving at an unexpected solution. Best of all, Thomas reveals what he calls “the secret rule for great work” which no company will ever actually abide by.Enjoy the show, enjoy his book, and enjoy making Hungarian chicken paprikash. —Website Show Notes: Junior: Writing Your Way Ahead in Advertising Hey Whipple, Squeeze This Oscar Health campaign Sir Kensington’s Fries of New York Hungarian chicken paprikash 📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your podcast app and comment below.
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  #18: Clare Vivier - Liberté, Intégrité, Simplicité 18.12.2024 53min

  My guest today is Clare Vivier: celebrated fashion designer and entrepreneur known for her eponymous brand, Clare V. Over 16 years in business, she has quietly, yet undeniably, reshaped the landscape of accessories.The French-inflected simplicity of her designs—leather handbags adorned with bold stripes, understated totes that whisper rather than shout—echo her essence: practical and deliberate, with an artist’s cool. Vivier has managed to bottle up California ease and Parisian sophistication, infusing it into a brand that feels both timeless and strikingly now.Born and raised in the Midwest, Vivier's path to the fashion world was anything but linear. A former journalist, she honed her style sensibilities while living in France, where she noticed a glaring gap in the accessories market: bags that married utility with understated luxury. Armed with curiosity, entrepreneurial spirit, and a sewing machine purchased with found money, she taught herself the art of leather working to make a laptop bag that she herself would want to carry.What began as a modest operation soon blossomed into Clare V., a brand that has come to define West Coast chic. From its early cult following in indie boutiques to its current status as a staple among tastemakers, Clare V. has grown into a quietly powerful force in the fashion industry, without compromising integrity or its signature style. Her pieces, whether carried by Hollywood A-listers or creative professionals on the go, feel both egalitarian and aspirational, a reflection of the woman behind the brand.Yet for Vivier, success is as much about community as it is about commerce. With stores across the country—each one a carefully curated love letter to its neighborhood—and a commitment to ethical production practices, she has proven that achieving scale doesn't require sacrificing the values that guide you in the early days.Without further adieu, please enjoy my conversation with Clare.                           —Website Show Notes: Clare V Instagram La Vie de Clare V. Wabi-sabi The Cult of Clare V Sample Sales The Hidden Staircases of Los Angeles Vélib' Métropole All Fours: A Novel Alice Neel Jules et Jim Crispy Smashed Potatoes and Chimichurri  📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your audio platform and comment below your favorite part of the episode. See you next week!
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  #17: Alex Bogusky - Peace, Love, and Advertising 04.12.2024 1h 6min

  Alex Bogusky didn’t just change advertising — he rewrote the rules. Many people have been called the father of modern advertising, but today you're going to hear from the man I call the father of postmodern advertising.Alex was named creative director of the decade by Ad Age for the work he led as a partner at his agency, Crispin Porter and Bogusky. His work has received countless awards and he's in the hall of fame of both the Art Directors Club and the American Advertising Federation.Alex is best known for launching Mini Cooper in America, anti-smoking ads for the Truth campaign that enraged big tobacco, ads for Domino’s Pizza that ignited an 80-fold increase in their stock price, and arguably his most groundbreaking work: Burger King’s Subservient chicken - one of the first digitally native campaigns to go viral online, and one that changed marketing forever.This is an episode with two chapters. In chapter one, we'll talk to Alex about the creative process that went into his best known campaigns. In chapter two, we'll talk about his spiritual journey of finding peace, and healing after the death of someone very close to him. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you from Boulder Colorado, Alex Bogusky.—Show Notes: Alex Bogusky Website  Ikea - Lamp  Volkswagen - Driver’s Wanted  Truth Anti Smoking - Body Bag  Pizza Turnaround  Mini Cooper Ads Subservient Chicken Ad  📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your audio platform and comment below your favorite part of the episode. See you next week!
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  #16: Alexis Gay - The Professional Unprofessional 20.11.2024 1h 6min

  My guest today is Alexis Gay. While on the rise in her career in tech, Alexis took to the internet to lampoon her own industry as her social alter ego, @yayalexisgay. With razor sharp comedic instincts and magnetic screen presence, she pokes fun at the absurdity of a new professional class that’s trying to put a dent in the universe while navigating petty personal problems. After 25 million video views, countless industry conference keynotes, and over a hundred episodes of her podcast Non-Technical, Alexis has left her desk job and incessant slack notifications behind. She’s now started a new chapter as an entertainer, trading annual performance reviews for nightly standing ovations.After debuting her one woman show Unprofessional at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in Scotland, she’s taking it on an eight city tour across the United States. We sat down a day before her performance in Los Angeles to talk about her travels in the creator economy and her craft of self-parody.Please enjoy my conversation with the consummate unprofessional professional, Alexis Gay. Show Notes:Alexis Gay Website Alexis Gay Instagram “Unprofessional” tour dates and tickets The War of Art Book The Body Keeps the Score book Box Breathing Cat CohenAlex Edelman The Artist’s Way📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your audio platform and comment below your favorite part of the episode. See you next week!
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  #15: Seth Godin - Idea Virus Patient Zero 13.11.2024 49min

  Years ago, I made a pilgrimage up the Hudson river to visit a guru. Conscientious, soft spoken, and sporting a shiny bald head, he had the profile of a wiseman in eastern philosophy. But in fact, he was a guru in the secular (yet mystical) philosophy of marketing.Towards the end of our meeting, as I asked for advice on growing our startup Sir Kensington’s, he wrote a note on a piece of torn paper and slipped it across the table. I picked it up and read it: “People Like Us Do Things Like This.” Huh? My guest today is Seth Godin, whose work I've followed for nearly 20 years, and has informed both the businesses I've built and how I evaluate companies for investment.Seth is the poet laureate of modern marketing. His genius lies in his ability to distill complex ideas into clear, actionable insights that resonate in today's attention-scarce world. And in a world addicted to shortcuts and quick wins, Godin’s message is refreshingly real and profoundly human: great work takes guts, vision, and the courage to stand out. As Seth says, "safe is risky."Today we'll talk about his greatest hits -- though we took this occasion to talk about his brand new book, "This is Strategy" which he simplifies strategy into what he calls "a philosophy of becoming."In Seth's world, marketing isn't just about selling - it's about making a difference. So if you want to build something consequential, queue up Seth's books on your kindle and please enjoy my conversation with Mr. Seth Godin.Website Show Notes: First, ten blog post https://seths.blog/2009/04/first-ten/ The Purple Cow https://www.amazon.com/Purple-Cow-Transform-Business-Remarkable/dp/014101640X Tribes https://www.amazon.com/Tribes-We-Need-You-Lead/dp/1491514736 This is Marketing https://www.amazon.com/This-Marketing-Cant-Until-Learn/dp/0525540830/ This is Strategy https://www.amazon.com/This-Strategy-Better-Elevate-Community-ebook/dp/B0CXWV8G29/ The Carbon Almanac https://thecarbonalmanac.org/ Askinosie Chocolate https://askinosie.com/ Dürer's Rhinoceros https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BCrer%27s_Rhinoceros Your business card is crap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YBxeDN4tbk Seth’s dosa recipe https://seths.blog/modern-dosa-cookbook/ 📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your audio platform and comment below your favorite part of the episode. See you next week!
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  #14: Nicholas Coleman - Chasing Liquid Gold 23.10.2024 1h 8min

  Sometimes you’ll meet someone, and halfway through the conversation it dawns on you: This person is different. This is a person doing their life’s work. Nicholas Coleman is undeniably one of those people. And with eloquence to match his passion, the more he shares the more interesting he becomes.Nick is one of the world’s foremost experts on olive oil. He is an educator, speaker, and co-founder of Grove and Vine, a full service bespoke olive oil merchant and producer. Nick chases the harvest annually through the northern and southern hemispheres to deliver a curated selection of the freshest extra virgin olive oils to both home cooks and Michelin starred restaurants.Nick was the chief oleologist at Eataly for seven years, a position they created for him and has judged countless olive oil competitions around the globe. He is a lifelong musician and bassist alongside Action Bronson in their band, Dr. Bachlava and Human Growth Hormone.In this interview, Nick will teach us how to properly select and taste olive oil, how to squeeze two days into every one, what it’s like to collaborate with Action both with oil and music, and the secret to landing your dream job.Prepare to learn everything you’ve ever wanted to know about olive oil and the business surrounding it, and enjoy my conversation with oleologist Nicholas Coleman.Want to try Nick’s oil? Listeners can use the code "atlarge" at https://groveandvine.com/ for $20 off a Grove and Vine membership.Recorded at studio and community space 57 NYC.Show Notes: Grove & Vine https://groveandvine.com/ Grove & Vine Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1vsz8letvc Eataly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eataly Action Bronson https://www.instagram.com/bambambaklava/?hl=en Dr. Bachlava and Human Growth Hormone - Tiny Desk Concert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUN8pdgA0m8 Ribollita Recipe https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1016052-ribollita Nick’s Instagram @oleologist https://www.instagram.com/oleologist/?hl=en 📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your audio platform and comment below your favorite part of the episode. See you next week!
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  #13: Gabe Whaley - Making MSCHF 09.10.2024 1h 6min

  A decade ago, Gabe Whaley figured out how to light the internet ablaze and has been leading a relentless scorched earth campaign ever since.Gabe is CEO and co-founder of MSCHF, a Brooklyn-based high-output for-profit art collective behind hundreds of radical and delightful projects. These range from shoes filled with holy water, to anime tax software, to forged picassos, to the mega-viral Big Red Boots. He’s been dragged into court for ticking off big companies, sold a laptop full of viruses for over one million dollars, and gotten MSCHF represented by Perrotin, a leading global contemporary art gallery. Softspoken and understated, Gabe has an unlikely history for a provocateur. He grew up in rural North Carolina, insulated from popular culture, and attended West Point where he learned military discipline before dropping out. After working dead-end jobs back home, he flew up to New York City wearing an ill-fitting suit for a long shot interview with Buzzfeed, where he landed a job working on viral content. Then once his extracurricular MSCHF projects took off, it launched as an undefinable N-of-one company with both adoring fans and corporate nemeses around the world.In this interview, we’ll hear the backstory of some of the collective’s most radical works, how he leads a team with world class ideas and execution, and how creativity and commerce coexist amidst explosive growth for MSCHF.If you do not know MSCHF today, prepare to have your mind cracked open – and prepare to start seeing them everywhere.—"Creativity is a shared international language"Website Show Notes: MSCHF https://www.instagram.com/mschf/?hl=en Sink of Theseus https://www.perrotin.com/artists/mschf/1181/mets-sink-of-theseus/73733 Tax Heaven 3000 https://taxheaven3000.com/ Marcel Duchamp - "Fountain" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp) MSCHF Perrotin Art 2 - https://leaflet.perrotin.com/view/751/art-2 Art Basel Miami Beach https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/251364524/art-basel-miami-beach/ Leaderboard ATM https://www.instagram.com/mschf/p/ClrA9dRulbA/?img_index=1 Colette https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colette_(boutique) Deal Sleds https://transacted.io/best-deal-sleds/ Big Red Boots https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/mschf-big-red-boots-explained-1234656780/ NOTHING IS SACRED - MSCHF retrospective at Daelim Museum https://hypebeast.com/2023/10/mschf-nothing-is-sacred-daelim-museum-retrospective Magazine B https://en.magazine-b.com/ US Military Academy West Point https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Military_Academy Maurizio Cattelan - Comedian (Banana) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/08/arts/design/a-critics-defense-of-cattelan-banana-.html Paola Pivi https://www.paolapivi.com/  📸@swhnorton 🐦@swhnorton🖥️www.atlargeshow.com…….This podcast is made available solely for entertainment and educational purposes. The information presented here does not constitute investment, legal, or other professional advice, and should not be construed as an offering of advisory services, or as a solicitation to buy, an offer to sell, or a recommendation of any securities or other financial instruments. The thoughts and opinions expressed by or through this podcast are those of the individual guests and speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of any investment advisor. The discussion on this podcast of any entity, product or service does not imply an endorsement thereof, and the guests may have a financial interest, whether through investment or otherwise, in one or more of any such entities, products or services. Did you enjoy this episode? Please leave a 5 star rating on your audio platform and comment below your favorite part of the episode. See you next week!