Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks
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A podcast by 9Marks, featuring Garrett Kell, Hayley Satrom, and Deepak Reju, discussing topics related to biblical counseling. The show aims to equip Christians with practical wisdom for counseling others and applying Scripture to everyday struggles.
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On Dating Part 5: Interview with Marshall Segal (Ep. 53) 07.09.2026 36dkGarrett, Deepak and Hayley interview Desiring God ministries President & CEO Marshall Segal on his book “Not Yet Married: The Pursuit of Joy in Singleness and Dating.Resources:Not Yet Married: The Pursuit of Joy in Singleness and Dating -
On Dating Part 4: Assessment (13 Fs) (Ep. 52) 24.08.2026 38dkDeepak, Garrett and Hayley talk about 13 F's that help you to assess your dating relationship.Mentioned Resources:13 Fs Dating Assessment PDF Disclosing Past Sexual Sin in a Dating Relationship by Garrett Kell -
On Dating Part 3: Affection (Ep. 51) 10.08.2026 44dkDeepak, Hayley and Deepak about about what the Bible says on physical and emotional intimacy. -
On Dating Part 2: Alignment (Ep. 50) 27.07.2026 33dkGarrett, Deepak and Hayley talk about ALIGNMENT in dating. How do you move from an informal to a more formal relationship? Resources MentionedShe’s Got the Wrong Guy: Why Smart Women Settle by Deepak Reju -
On Dating Part 1: Appreciation and Attraction (Ep. 49) 13.07.2026 37dkGarrett, Hayley and Deepak start season 4 with a conversation about dating, starting with the role of appreciation and attraction. -
On How to Use Homework Part 2 (Ep. 48) 27.04.2026 40dkDeepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about using Scripture as homework. Resources Mentioned: 31-Day Devotionals for Life (Series) Workbooks and resources from Christian Counseling & Educational Foundation -
On How to Use Homework Part 1 (Ep. 47) 13.04.2026 29dkDeepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about the importance of homework and how and when to assign it in counseling. Sounds boring but it’s more important than you might realize! Resources Mentioned Good and Angry by David Powlison -
On Sexual Sin with Ellen Dykas (Ep. 46) 30.03.2026 41dkGarrett, Deepak and Hayley interview Ellen on a woman’s battle with sexual sin. Resources MentionedSexual Sanity for Women by Ellen Dykas Sex and the Single Girl by Ellen Dykas Your Dating Relationship and Your Sexual Past by Ellen Dykas What’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (single version) – Harvest USA What’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (married version) – Harvest USA Harvest USA -
On Helping Singles Fight for Purity (Ep. 45) 16.03.2026 42dkGarrett, Hayley and Deepak offer ten thoughts for singles on why and how to fight for purity. Resources Mentioned: Pure in Heart: Sexual Sin and the Promises of God by Garrett Kell Pornography: Fighting for Purity by Deepack Reju Single and Lonely: Finding the Intimacy You Desire by Jayne Clark Struggling Through Singleness: Help for the Journey by Jane Clark -
On Medications (Ep. 44) 02.03.2026 42dkDeepak, Hayley, and Garrett talk about the good and bad about medications and working with doctors. Resources MentionedDescriptions and Prescriptions by Michael Emlet Listening to Prozac…and to the Scriptures Article by Michael Emlet Can We Be Positive About Psychiatric Medications? Article by Ed Welch Why do we seem negative about psychiatric medications? Article by Ed Welch -
Ed Welch on Depression (Ep. 43) 16.02.2026 47dkDeepak, Hayley and Garrett interview counselor and author Ed Welch about the experience of depression and how to minister to those who suffer from it. -
Depression Part 3 (Ep. 42) 02.02.2026 42dkGarrett, Hayley and Deepak share how to care for a friend struggling with depression. Resources MentionedDepression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional) Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch “Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus” – article by Garrett Kell -
Depression Part 2 (Ep. 41) 19.01.2026 39dkHayley, Deepak and Garrett talk about depression and how to think about depression as complicated suffering. Resources Mentioned Depression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional) Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch “Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus” – article by Garrett Kell -
On Depression Part 1 (Ep. 40) 05.01.2026 42dkGarrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about what the Bible says about depression. Warning label: This episode also talks about a depressed person’s battle with suicide. Resources Mentioned Depression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch Spurgeon’s Sorrows by Zack Eswine -
On How to Apologize (Ep. 39) 22.12.2025 29dkGarrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about how to offer a good or bad apology and why we struggle to apologize. Resources Mentioned The Peacemaker by Ken Sande -
On Anger, with Chris Moles (Ep. 38) 08.12.2025 46dkGarrett, Deepak and Hayley interview pastor and counselor Chris Moles, who says you can’t bully a bully. You change a person’s anger with kindness, compassion and forgiveness. Resources Mentioned Uprooting Anger by Robert D. Jones https://www.chrismoles.org https://www.menofpeace.org -
On Anger Part 3 (Ep. 37) 24.11.2025 53dkGarrett, Hayley and Deepak explore redemptive strategies for dealing with anger problems and growing in faith in Christ. Books Mentioned Anger: Calming Your Heart (31-Day Devotional) by Robert D. Jones A Small Book for The Anxious Heart by Edward T. Welch The Peacemaker by Ken Sande War of Words by Paul David Tripp Other Resources "Moving Toward, Away and Against" Chart (This chart is from the CCEF Marriage Counseling course taught by Winston Smith, 2010) Bible Verses on Anger -
On Anger Part 2 (Ep. 36) 10.11.2025 37dkGarrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about how people change when they're wrestling with anger. What should we believe, say, think and do if we want to overcome our anger. Resources mentioned: The Heart of Anger by Steve Midgley and Christopher Ash Angry Children: Understanding and Helping Your Children Regain Control by Mike Emlet (Booklet) -
On Anger Part 1 (Ep. 35) 27.10.2025 47dkGarrett, Deepak and Hayley introduce the topic of anger and reflect on their own struggles and encounters with it. They explore the complexity of anger—how it can be both righteous and sinful, hot and cold. The discussion sets the foundation for upcoming episodes on addressing and counseling anger in a Christ-centered way. Resources mentioned: Good and Angry by David Powlison Controlling Anger (Mini-book) by David Powlison Uprooting Anger by Robert D. Jones The Heart of Anger by Christopher Ash & Steve Midgley Anger: Escaping The Maze (Mini-book from P&R Publishing) -
On How To Become A Better Listener (Ep. 34) 13.10.2025 40dkDeepak, Garrett, and Hayley talk about the good and bad qualities of a listener and how to grow in your skill of listening.
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