Return to Wisdom
Keshia Tognazzini
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Return to Wisdom is a podcast hosted by Keshia Tognazzini, continuing the conversations from The Road to Wisdom Podcast. The show explores interconnected topics such as health, relationships, motherhood, and cultural norms, with a focus on returning to more traditional and grounded ways of living. Keshia challenges societal narratives by engaging with thought leaders, experts, and everyday voices who carry lived wisdom. It invites listeners to approach each episode with an open mind and a soft heart.
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Oxytocin, Fear & Undisturbed Birth: The Missing Piece in How We Talk About Physiological Birth 15.09.2026 55dkIn this episode, host Keshia Tognazzini sits down with Dr Sarah Buckley — GP, researcher, and one of the world's leading voices on the hormonal physiology of birth — to unpack what actually happens in the body during physiological labour, and what gets lost when birth is interrupted, induced, or moved into an operating theatre. They cover the "private, safe and unobserved" foundation every labouring mammal needs, the oxytocin feedback loop that turns early labour into an unstoppable "snowball," the fetus ejection reflex, why pre-labour caesareans leave a measurable hormonal gap for both mother and baby, and practical ways to protect your hormones if a hospital transfer is part of your plan. About Dr Sarah Buckley Dr Sarah Buckley is trained as a family physician/GP with qualifications in GP-obstetrics. She has been writing and lecturing to childbirth professionals and parents since 1997, and is the author of the internationally best-selling book Gentle Birth, Gentle Mothering. Dr Buckley has a special interest in the hormones of physiological labour and birth and the impact of maternity-care interventions. She recently completed her PhD at the University of Queensland on Oxytocin in Childbirth, and is also the author of the 2015 report Hormonal Physiology of Childbirth. She is mother to four adult children and grandmother to one, all born at home. She lives on the semi-rural outskirts of Brisbane, Australia. Find Sarah: Website: sarahbuckley.com Facebook: @DrSarahBuckley Instagram: @DrSarahJBuckley Twitter/X: @Sarahjbuckley What We Cover What "undisturbed birth" actually means, and why every labouring mammal needs to feel private, safe, and unobserved The evolutionary roots of birth hormones — 65+ million years of placental mammal physiology Why labour can stall the moment a labouring woman moves from home to hospital The "saber-toothed tiger effect": how adrenaline and cortisol counteract oxytocin The Ferguson reflex and the "snowball of labour" — how a positive feedback loop turns early contractions into an unstoppable process Oxytocin receptor density and why the uterus becomes exponentially more sensitive to oxytocin by the end of pregnancy What the jugular-vein oxytocin studies from the 1970s–80s actually found The fetal catecholamine surge, and what babies miss out on with a pre-labour caesarean Why current research shows no safety benefit to elective pre-labour caesarean over physiological birth Skin-to-skin contact as a way to "fill hormonal gaps" after interventions Melatonin, darkness, and why humans likely evolved to labour at night The difference between an undisturbed birth and an unassisted (free) birth Practical tips for protecting your hormones if you're planning a hospital transfer Links & References Mentioned Sarah Buckley's Website All of Sarah's PhD publications Epidurals — risks and FAQ How to Have the Best Caesarean Labour Induction: Making Choices Synthetic Oxytocin (Pitocin): Myths and Side Effects Does Pitocin Cause Autism? Research Publications Referenced Buckley S, Uvnäs-Moberg K, Pajalic Z, Luegmair K, Ekström-Bergström A, Dencker A, et al. Maternal and newborn plasma oxytocin levels in response to maternal synthetic oxytocin administration during labour, birth and postpartum — a systematic review with implications for the function of the oxytocinergic system. BMC Pregnancy Childbirth. 2023;23(1):137. Read here Uvnäs-Moberg K, Ekström-Bergström A, Berg M, Buckley S, Pajalic Z, Hadjigeorgiou E, et al. Maternal plasma levels of oxytocin during physiological childbirth — a systematic review with implications for uterine contractions and central actions of oxytocin. BMC Pregnancy Childbirth. 2019;19(1):285. Read here People & Concepts Mentioned in Conversation Michel Odent — French surgeon, water-birth pioneer, and originator of the "private, safe and unobserved" framing and the fetus ejection reflex Robbie Davis-Floyd — medical anthropologist, coined "birth as a techn -
“Free Birth is a Rational Response” — with Dr Stu Fischbein 08.09.2026 1sa 45dkPart of a series examining free birth and home birth culture in light of a recent media exposé (The Guardian's investigation), this conversation features veteran obstetrician Dr. Stu Fischbein giving his unfiltered take on why free birth exists, why he believes it's here to stay, and where he thinks the modern maternity system has gone wrong. Drawing on nearly 40 years in practice — including 25 years working alongside midwives and a career spent specializing in breech, twin, and VBAC deliveries — Dr. Stu makes the case that many of the "rules" of obstetrics (age 35, 24-hour rupture of membranes, post-dates, standard of care) are arbitrary constructs rather than evidence-based thresholds. The conversation ranges widely: informed consent, financial incentives in hospital billing, breech and twin birth outcomes, ultrasound overuse, newborn resuscitation practices, and why he believes women are turning to free birth not out of recklessness but as a rational response to a system they no longer trust. This Episode Is Supported By INBLUEM Skincare Pure, plant-based skincare made in Byron Bay — no toxins, no fillers, no fuss. In Bloom is offering Return to Wisdom listeners a discount. 👉 Use code RETURNTOWISDOMPODCAST at inbluem.com/returntowisdompodcast Kim Anami Holistic sex and relationship coaching for reconnecting with your body and your partner. https://kimanami.ontraport.com/t?orid=511555&opid=2 to register for courses— using it also supports the podcast. This Episode is brought to you by Superfeast Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOM https://www.superfeast.com.au/ Topics Covered Reactions to The Guardian's free birth investigation — what it got right and where it fell short Why Dr. Stu believes free birth is "here to stay" and will keep growing The financial and liability incentives baked into hospital birth (C-section pay structures, NICU admissions, billing for extra ultrasound features) Informed consent vs. "motivational interviewing" (his term for coercive counseling) Rupture of membranes: is the 24-hour rule evidence-based? Meconium: what it actually indicates vs. how it's used to justify intervention Where "age 35 = high risk" actually came from (the amniocentesis/Down syndrome coincidence) "Post-dates" vs. term — and why 42 weeks isn't inherently dangerous Vaginal breech and twin delivery: the data, the de-skilling of OBs, and why cesarean isn't a risk-free alternative Ultrasound overuse, Doppler billing incentives, and the precautionary principle Delayed cord clamping and newborn resuscitation on the mother vs. at the warmer How to "interview" an OB or hospital before choosing where to give birth Why podcasting has become a major source of birth information — and why the medical establishment doesn't like that Dr. Stu's own birth story and how it shaped his views on maternal-infant bonding Resources Mentioned Dr. Stu's papers via birthinginstincts.com: Home Birth with an Obstetrician, home breech birth paper, home twin birth paper (with Rixa Freeze, Breech Without Borders) The Guardian's free birth investigative series An Inconvenient Study (documentary referenced re: vaccinated/unvaccinated health outcomes) Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RCOG) Green-top Guideline on breech birth (2017) Breech Without Borders training seminars The Birthing Instincts podcast and Patreon community Where to Find Dr. Stu Podcast: Birthing Instincts (with Midwife Blyss Young) Website: birthinginstincts.com Instagram: @birthinginstincts -
"Helping a baby breathe at birth, is a parenting skill" - Reclaiming Common Birth Knowledge with Billie Harrigan 01.09.2026 1sa 2dk"Helping a baby breathe at birth, is a parenting skill" - Reclaiming Common Birth Knowledge with Billie Harrigan In this instalment of the Birth Series, Keshia sits down with Integrative Perinatal Health Consultant and Educator Billie Harrigan to talk about "becoming a more useful human" — the idea that ordinary, common-sense birth skills have been co-opted, medicalised, and locked behind licensing requirements that Billie argues make birth more dangerous, not less. The conversation traces the history of "calling the neighbour" — the once-ordinary practice of a knowledgeable community member attending a birth — back through the criminalisation of midwifery in Canada, and asks what was lost when that knowledge left common hands. From there, Billie and Keshia work through nutrition's role in preventing preeclampsia, cholestasis, and gestational diabetes; the three birth emergencies Billie believes everyone should know how to respond to; and what trauma-informed care actually requires from anyone in a birth space. They also revisit the fallout from the Free Birth Society exposé, and where Billie feels the reporting missed the mark. This episode doesn't land on a tidy verdict either — it's an invitation to think about who currently holds birth knowledge, who's allowed to use it, and what that's costing women. This Episode Is Supported By INBLUEM Skincare Pure, plant-based skincare made in Byron Bay — no toxins, no fillers, no fuss. In Bloom is offering Return to Wisdom listeners a discount. 👉 Use code RETURNTOWISDOMPODCAST at inbluem.com Kim Anami Holistic sex and relationship coaching for reconnecting with your body and your partner. Link https://kimanami.ontraport.com/t?orid=511555&opid=36 to register for courses— using it also supports the podcast. This Episode is brought to you by Superfeast Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOM https://www.superfeast.com.au/ Key Topics Discussed "Being a more useful human" — reclaiming everyday birth and first-aid-style skills that Billie argues have been unnecessarily medicalised and gatekept The history of "calling the neighbour" — how midwifery was made illegal in Upper Canada, why it stayed criminalised for most of Canada's history, and what the mortality data from that era suggests about community-based care Common birth knowledge and skills — prenatal nutrition, tracking baby's position, recognising the difference between a baby needing time versus a baby needing help, and basic kitchen herbalism (shepherd's purse, yarrow, bay berry, ladies mantle, witch hazel) Nutrition as prevention — Billie's perspective on diet's role in preeclampsia, cholestasis, and gestational diabetes, including a discussion of folic acid fortification and insulin signalling The three birth emergencies — Billie's framework for what she believes everyone in a birth space should be equipped to respond to: a baby getting stuck, a baby not reviving, and postpartum haemorrhage Trauma-informed care as a learnable skill — maternal mortality from suicide, the brain-injury model of birth trauma, and what Billie's course for the "childbearing client" is designed to teach Restricted birthing legislation in Australia — the push for other states to adopt South Australia-style laws restricting unregistered birth workers, even within hospital settings Revisiting the Free Birth Society exposé — where Billie felt the reporting was fair, where she felt it missed the broader context of birth trauma in the medical system, and how online discourse shaped the narrative "Refugees from the medical industry" — Billie's description of the women she supports who've had coercive experiences with maternity care, and how nervous-system safety factors into their outcomes Mentioned in This Episode Billie Harrigan's Traditional Birth Companion Course - https://billieharrigan.com/becoming-a-traditional-birth-companion Billie Harrigan's trauma-informed care course for childbearing clients - https://billieh -
A Reunion Chat on Free Birth, Influence & Informed Choice with Chloe Pacey 25.08.2026 1sa 52dkIn this instalment of the Birth Series, Keshia sits down with her longtime podcasting partner and friend Chloe Pacey for a wide-ranging, unfiltered reunion conversation. Sparked by the recent Guardian investigation into Free Birth Society and figures like Emily Saldaya and Yolanda Norris-Clark, the pair dig into the messy middle ground between free birth advocacy and mainstream maternity care — where both women land after years of birthing, researching, and living rurally with young families. Topics range from the psychology of influencer culture and echo chambers, to stillbirth statistics and how to interpret them responsibly, to the training (or lack thereof) behind "radical birthkeeper" courses, to proposed legislation restricting who can attend a birth. Along the way: reflections on friendship in different seasons of motherhood, and a fair amount of unfiltered, expletive-laden honesty. This episode doesn't land on a verdict. It's an invitation to sit with the nuance — and to think critically about who you're trusting with information during one of the most vulnerable windows of your life. This Episode Is Supported By INBLUEM Skincare Pure, plant-based skincare made in Byron Bay — no toxins, no fillers, no fuss. In Bloom is offering Return to Wisdom listeners a discount. 👉 Use code RETURNTOWISDOMPODCAST at inbluem.com Kim Anami Holistic sex and relationship coaching for reconnecting with your body and your partner. Link https://kimanami.ontraport.com/t?orid=511555&opid=36 to register for courses— using it also supports the podcast. This Episode is brought to you by Superfeast Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOM https://www.superfeast.com.au/ Key Topics Discussed Digesting the Guardian's Free Birth Society investigation — how the story reads differently pregnant vs. postpartum, and what felt fair vs. sensationalised in the reporting Radical responsibility — what it really means to opt out of the medical system, and where the accountability sits when outcomes go wrong Reading the stillbirth statistics — trying to contextualise the numbers cited in the investigation against broader hospital-birth stillbirth rates, and why the data gaps make real comparison difficult The "claiming life" moment — unpacking one of the most controversial passages from the reporting, and how instinct (human and animal) shows up differently when someone is alone versus supported Influencer culture and epistemic humility — how to tell the difference between someone sharing lived experience and someone qualified to teach a skill, using a personal-trainer analogy to make the point Radical birthkeeper and doula training programs — what these courses do and don't prepare people for, and the gap between "holding space" and clinical emergency response Language and framing — how phrases like "I've never seen a hemorrhage in 17 years" shape a listener's sense of safety, whether or not that's the intent Free birth as "trend" — distinguishing women who arrive at free birth through deep research and genuine risk tolerance from those swept up by algorithmic pressure and social proof Scans, shame, and the pressure to prove trust in your body — the social dynamics around choosing (or skipping) ultrasounds in certain birth-culture circles Proposed regulatory changes — the RANZCOG/Australian College of Midwives statement calling for legislation modelled on South Australia's Restricted Birthing Practices laws, and reports of child-protection involvement in some free birth cases there What a better middle ground could look like — informed, individualised risk assessment with a trusted care provider, regardless of setting A Note on This Episode This series doesn't offer a definitive verdict on free birth — it's designed to be sat with, questioned, and weighed against your own circumstances. As always, nothing in this episode constitutes medical advice. If you're navigating a birth decision, please seek guidance from a quali -
Coming Back to Center: Ayana on Birth Choices 18.08.2026 1sa 13dkTwo very different birth experiences — one that unfolded within the medical system, and one that took place at home with a private midwife quietly holding space in the background. Recorded in the wake of recent media scrutiny of free birth and home birth communities, this conversation moves past the headlines and into the lived, textured reality of making birth choices under pressure and hope. Ayana walks through her first birth: a 90-hour labour with a posterior baby, a burnt-out midwife, a transfer to hospital, an epidural, forceps, and a rough recovery — and how she came through it without carrying the trauma many might expect. She then shares the story of her second birth: two miscarriages, a pregnancy she chose not to confirm with a test, and a four-hour home birth in a birth pool that she describes as one of the best experiences of her life — interrupted only by an apple crumble in the oven. Together, Keshia and Ayana talk candidly about the pressure many women feel to free birth, the risk of outsourcing intuition to online forums during labour, the uneven reputation of midwives, and why neither extreme — "the medical system is broken" nor "free birth is the only real birth" — tells the whole story. A Note on This Series This episode is part of an ongoing series examining free birth and birth culture at a moment when public conversation has largely settled on a single narrative. The series doesn't promise definitive conclusions — listeners are invited to weigh the evidence with nuance and a critical eye. Connect with Ayana Instagram: @ayana_ryan_ Sponsors & Discount Codes INBLUEM — plant-based skincare made in Byron Bay. Use code RETURNTOWISDOMPODCAST at inbluem.com Great Spirit — organic, whole-food-based iron supplements made in Australia. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off at greatspirit.com.au SuperFeast — medicinal mushrooms and tonic herbs. Use code RETURNTOWISDOM for 10% off at superfeast.com Kim Anami — Fire up your life with Kim Anami courses: Use https://kimanami.ontraport.com/t?orid=511555&opid=36 to register for courses Follow the Show If this episode resonated with you, please like, share, and leave a review — it helps get these conversations in front of more listeners. New episodes of the Birth Series drop weekly. Music Licence: MB01FCNMYPSU3WD -
Unassisted Childbirth in Today's Climate — with Laura Shanley 11.08.2026 1sa 18dkIn this episode, Keshia sits down with Laura Shanley — author of the foundational book Unassisted Childbirth, first published decades before "free birth" became a widely used term. Laura free birthed all of her children between 1978 and 1987 and has spent over 30 years researching and writing about the connection between fear, thought, and the physiology of labor. The conversation comes at a pivotal moment for the free birth community, following a wave of media scrutiny — including a major investigative podcast series examining poor outcomes linked to Free Birth Society — and growing calls in Australia to legislate who is permitted to attend a birth. Keshia and Laura unpack what's actually being reported, what's being lost in translation, and where personal responsibility, intuition, and informed choice fit into the picture. What We Cover The current media climate around free birth and unassisted birth, and how it compares to decades past Reflections on the Guardian's investigative series into Free Birth Society — what resonated, what felt sensationalized, and where the reporting blurred normal physiological variation with genuine red flags The difference between true unassisted birth and hiring a "birthkeeper" — and why that distinction matters Laura's three primary causes of poor birth outcomes: extreme poverty, unnecessary medical intervention, and a woman's own fear and beliefs The physiology of fear: how the fight-or-flight response redirects blood and oxygen away from the uterus, and why this matters for labor Laura's own birth stories, including catching her breech baby after a guiding dream, and unwinding a nuchal cord solo in her bathroom Why "free birth vs. hospital birth vs. midwife-assisted birth" isn't the real debate — it's about tuning into what actually makes each woman feel safe The bind midwives are placed in between their own clinical judgement and fear of legal consequences Rising cesarean rates in the US and Australia, and what they signal about the "normal" range of birth being narrowed How to tell the difference between intuition and fear, and practical ways to reconnect with your body's own signals Laura's advice for anyone whose intuition has been dismissed or overridden in the past About Laura Shanley Laura Shanley is the author of Unassisted Childbirth, with a foreword by French obstetrician Michel Odent. She has written and spoken on natural birth and the mind-body connection since the early 1990s, running one of the internet's earliest hubs for the unassisted birth community. She is the mother of five and grandmother of seven. Website: unassistedchildbirth.com (also accessible via freebirth.com) Resources Mentioned Unassisted Childbirth by Laura Shanley Childbirth Without Fear by Grantly Dick-Read Spiritual Midwifery by Ina May Gaskin Childbirth Wisdom from the World's Oldest Societies by Judith Goldsmith Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers by Robert Sapolsky The Seth Material; Abraham Hicks material "Laughter in Labor" — article on unassistedchildbirth.com This Episode is Brought to you by INBLUEM Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOMPODCAST at www.inbluem.com Fire up your life with Kim Anami courses: Use https://kimanami.ontraport.com/t?orid=511555&opid=36 to register for courses This Episode is brought to you by Superfeast Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOM https://www.superfeast.com.au/ Music Licence: MB01FCNMYPSU3WD -
Free Birth, Responsibility, and the Truth About Risk — with Melanie the Midwife 04.08.2026 1sa 19dkKeshia sits down with Melanie Jackson to work through the confusion left in the wake of The Guardian's exposé on Free Birth Society — what it got right, what it missed, and why neither of them was surprised by it. Drawing on her PhD research and nearly two decades attending home births, Melanie makes a clear distinction between free birth as a personal choice and the newer, more troubling trend of unregulated birth workers stepping into a clinical role they were never trained for. The conversation moves from there into what genuinely informed decision-making looks like, what responsibility actually means once you step outside the maternity care system, and where the middle ground sits between hospital birth and free birth for women chasing a physiological delivery. In This Episode Why neither Keshia nor Melanie was surprised by what came out in The Guardian's reporting, and the "cultish" dynamics both had noticed in the free birth community for years How free birth has shifted from something women arrived at through their own research to something now marketed to them through social media and courses The difference between free birth (a personal choice) and unregulated birth workers overstepping their scope — and why Melanie sees the latter as the real issue Why there's no actual research on free birth outcomes, and why that matters for anyone claiming it's either safe or dangerous What taking on the "red flag waiver" role really requires — full clinical knowledge, an emergency plan, and honest capacity to make decisions mid-labour The unspoken burden placed on partners who may not be prepared to become the emergency responder if something goes wrong Doulas vs. unregulated birth workers vs. midwives — where the boundaries should sit, and why crossing them creates the grey area fuelling most bad outcomes Melanie's own PhD research and why she pushes back on "you can't talk about free birth if you haven't done it" A spectrum of options for a physiological birth short of free birth: private home birth midwives, publicly funded home birth programs, midwifery group practice, birth centres, and doula support Rapid-fire listener questions: are C-sections really "safer" than vaginal birth, is VBAC possible after multiple caesareans, and is going past 41–42 weeks gestation an actual risk Melanie's longest supported pregnancy — 43 weeks and 1 day — and what that birth taught her client Where to Find Melanie melaniethemidwife.com The Great Birth Rebellion podcast Annual "Convergence of Rebellious Midwives" conference (Melbourne this year) Upcoming book: Guide to a Great Pregnancy (with a follow-up on birth to come) This Episode is Brought to you by INBLUEM Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOMPODCAST at www.inbluem.com Fire up your life with Kim Anami courses: Use https://kimanami.ontraport.com/t?orid=511555&opid=36 to register for courses This Episode is brought to you by Superfeast Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOM https://www.superfeast.com.au Music Licence: MB01FCNMYPSU3WD -
"If You're Looking for Permission, You Shouldn't Do This" — Mary Lou Singleton on Free Birth 28.07.2026 1sa 37dkKeshia sits down with midwife Mary Lou Singleton to untangle the current confusion around free birth — where it comes from, how it's being shaped by social media and influencer culture, and what's been lost as the "Free Birth Society" brand has drifted from storytelling into ideology. Mary Lou draws on 15+ years as a home birth midwife, her own free birth, and a family history shaped by a traumatic hospital birth to offer a grounded, non-dogmatic take on risk, autonomy, and what actually makes a birth safe(r) — whether it happens at home, unassisted, or in hospital. In This Episode Mary Lou's path into midwifery, inspired by Ina May Gaskin and 15+ years practicing in New Mexico How her son's childhood cancer diagnosis reshaped her understanding of the "midwifery model" of care The story of her mother's traumatic 1969 hospital birth, and how it set Mary Lou on a path toward home birth Mary Lou's own two births — a midwife-assisted home birth and a free birth — and wha each taught her about trusting her own instincts How free birth went from lived experience and storytelling to a commodified, sometimes dogmatic online movement The Guardian podcast investigation into Free Birth Society and the difficulty of getting real statistics on outcomes Mary Lou's "guardrails" for a lower-risk free birth: term, head-down, single baby, labor under 48 hours, clear fluid Higher-risk scenarios — breech and twin births — and the real mortality data behind them Good storytelling vs. fear-mongering: the difference between an empowering birth story and manufactured certainty The "Maggie" story — why needing someone else's permission to free birth is itself a sign you're not ready to What to actually look for in a doula or birthkeeper (Mary Lou's rule of thumb: 50+ births minimum) Why "never" is a dangerous word to bring into a birth Holding risk-awareness and bodily trust at the same time, instead of picking a side The trade-offs baked into every birth choice — hospital, home, midwife-attended, or free Reflections on isolation, influencer culture, and why so many women are drawn to birth communities online Where to Find Mary Lou: Website: enchantedfamilymedicine.com Red earth herbal women’s gathering Instagram: @marylousingleton X: ML_Singleton This Episode is Brought to you by INBLUEM Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOMPODCAST at www.inbluem.com This Episode is brought to you by Superfeast Enjoy 10% off your order with the code RETURNTOWISDOM https://www.superfeast.com.au/ Music Licence: MB01FCNMYPSU3WD -
Rebuilding the Village: Wisdom, Maturity & the Return to Intergenerational Living 23.12.2025 1sa 6dkIn this deeply reflective conversation, Keshia is joined by Michelle Chatham and Molly to explore what the “village” truly means in modern life, and why so many women feel unsupported despite being surrounded by community. Together, they unpack the degradation of intergenerational wisdom, the limitations of peer-only communities, and the dangers of outsourcing our knowing to professionals, systems, and now AI. This episode invites listeners to return to embodiment, lived experience, and relational wisdom — and to understand growth, challenge, and maturation as essential parts of becoming a grounded woman, mother, and leader. This is a conversation about becoming, not performing and about creating the village from the inside out. Music Licence:MB01MVKGTUZTF8Z Michale Bio From our first breath to our last, we are creating, utilizing, and maintaining space. This principle has guided michale during her 30 years of experience in integrative health. As a nurse who practices from a holistic and global perspective, she helped create one of the country’s first integrative tongue tie clinics over 10 years ago. Her passion for education led her to lecture and teach nationally and internationally on craniofacial growth and development and anticipatory growth guidance. As an educator, she has created training programs for health care practitioners as well as parents and teaches the energetics of healing. Michale mentors those who desire to do their own work, and are interested in healing the healer. She believes the future of healing is up to those practitioners who are re-creating wisdom systems that are essential to our survival and thriving as humans. www.michalechatham.com www.thevessel.life www.korimeloy.com/rootedfamilies youtube — https://youtube.com/@michalechatham990?si=2SL-QJAXnA7qwg6n @michalechatham @theclinicalmystic @truenorthcouples Molly Bio Dr. Molly Peralta is a mediator in unleashing the healing power of the body, philanthropic and community building enthusiast and encourager of living a radically heart centered life. a chiropractor by trade, birth keeper and mother amongst many other titles. living in her dream in hawaii raising wild babies with her husband. You can find her sharing family memories on instagram @molstie, educational information regarding pregnancy, birth & mothering @livingadjusted or follow along with the birth of her clothing line @hapalabel. She is the cofounder of the vessel, @thevesselvillage on instagram, and cohost of @villagesessionspodcast. The Vessel Find our course offerings and information about the Vessel Village at www.thevessel.life Additionally, if you would like to add our freebie PDF to the bio beneath our podcast for your community -- "The Well Resourced Vessel Guide" Here is the link https://thevessel.myflodesk.com/wellresourcedguide Return Show Notes Script This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
When Modern Health Gets It Wrong: Vaccines, Vitalism & the Body’s Intelligence with Cyndi O'Meara 16.12.2025 1sa 33dkIn this episode, Keshia sits down with Cyndi O’Meara — leading nutritionist, filmmaker, best-selling author, TEDx speaker, and founder of Changing Habits, The Nutrition Academy, The Changing Habits Farm, and co-founder of The Packing Company. With more than 45 years of experience in nutrition and health education, Cyndi has dedicated her life to helping people make informed, empowered choices about their wellbeing. A passionate educator at heart, Cyndi is known for her direct, down-to-earth approach and her commitment to confronting misinformation in the health and food industries. Her work challenges people to question long-held habits, rethink conventional narratives, and make deeply intentional decisions about what they put into their bodies. As she enters 2025, Cyndi’s renewed focus on global education continues through internationally accredited nutrition courses and public events like The Health and Nutrition Summit. In this long-form conversation, Keshia and Cyndi explore some of the most important and often misunderstood topics in modern health: The philosophy of vitalism and the body’s innate intelligence Vaccine safety, immune system development, and chronic illness in children Cyndi’s personal journey raising unvaccinated children How modern health has become increasingly mechanistic, and why that matters What it means for parents to make informed, compassionate decisions in today’s climate This episode is not about telling anyone what to think or do. It is an invitation to ask better questions, understand the historical and scientific context, and look more critically at the information we’re given. Above all, it’s a conversation about trusting the body, reclaiming sovereignty, and empowering parents with tools, knowledge, and confidence as they navigate complex health decisions. Music Licence: MB01SA6UABCOTZY Important Disclaimer This conversation is not medical advice. Resources & Mentions Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) 📄 Reports & Research Papers McCullough Foundation Report on Autism https://zenodo.org/records/17451259 Impact of Childhood Vaccination on Short- and Long-Term Chronic Health Outcomes (Senate Hearing Record) https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/Entered-into-hearing-record-Impact-of-Childhood-Vaccination-on-Short-and-Long-Term-Chronic-Health-Outcomes-in-Children-A-Birth-Cohort-Study.pdf Henry Ford Study on Vaccinated vs Unvaccinated Health Outcomeshttps://www.henryford.com/news/2025/09/vaccine-study-henry-ford-health 🎥 Documentaries VAXXED — by Del Bigtree & Dr Andrew Wakefield An Inconvenient Study (Free to Watch) https://www.aninconvenientstudy.com/ 📺 TV & Weekly Health Shows The HighWire with Del Bigtree — Over 400+ Episodes & Interviews 📚 Books & Publications Vaccines: Amen — Aaron Siri The Vaccine Friendly Plan — Dr Paul Thomas, Paediatrician Dissolving Illusions — Dr Suzanne Humphries VAX – UNVAX: What Does The Science Say? — Brian Hooker & Robert F. Kennedy Vaccines: Mythology, Ideology & Reality — John Leake & Dr Peter McCullough Immunity: Why Not Keep It? — Dr Lisa Lovett This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
From “Premature Ovarian Failure” to Four Babies: Birth Stories with Angela Jessup 09.12.2025 1sa 31dkIn this episode of Return to Wisdom, Keshia sits down with her friend Angela to talk through her journey into motherhood — from being told she was unlikely to conceive, through four very different births, miscarriage, and the process of finding trust in her own body and choices. If you’re pregnant, exploring birth options, processing a past birth, or simply interested in real, unfiltered women’s stories, this conversation offers a lot to reflect on. Note: Angela’s baby Mimi is in the studio with us, so you may hear a few soft baby sounds throughout the episode. Key Themes in This Episode How the medical system shapes birth through fear and policyThe tension between hospital protocols and physiological birth, and how that shows up for mothers. Autonomy and informed decision-makingFrom induction conversations to postpartum checks, Angela speaks about learning to say no, ask questions and understand her options. Energetic boundaries in pregnancy and birthWhy the attitudes and nervous systems of people in the room matter — and how this can affect the birth space. Different kinds of birth supportRegistered midwives, doulas, lay midwives and birthkeepers — and why having the right to choose who is present is so important. Grieving and healing miscarriageThe difference between a hospital-managed D&C and a more spacious, supported miscarriage at home. Free birth as a considered choiceFor Angela and Nick, free birth was not about rejecting care, but about being prepared, educated, and responsible for their own decisions. About Angela Angela is a kinesiologist who works primarily with women — especially in pregnancy, birth preparation and birth trauma integration. Coming soon: Energetic Boundaries for Pregnancy & Birth — an online workshop A Self-Clearing Course for women and children 1:1 kinesiology sessions resuming from February 2026 You can find Ange at https://www.angelajessup.com and IG @angelajessup_kinesiology Music Licence:MB01AADDYHXW0FR This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
Beyond Gentle Parenting: What Actually Works Part 2 with Lael Stone 25.11.2025 55dkIn this soulful and deeply insightful episode (part 2), Keshia sits down once again with parenting educator, speaker, author, and emotional awareness advocate Lael Stone. With her signature calm wisdom, Lael explores how we, as parents, can navigate our children's emotional worlds without falling into perfectionism or panic about “getting it all right.” Together, they unravel complex layers around trauma, resilience, sibling rivalry, boundaries, attachment styles, and emotional literacy, equipping parents with genuinely usable insight for family life. About Lael Lael is a renowned parenting educator, emotional-awareness expert, childbirth doula, and author of two books, including her latest Own Your Story. She is also the co-creator of Woodland Primary, a play-based and emotionally intelligent school on a Victorian farm. As a mother of three adult children, Lael’s work spans education, parenting, trauma-informed connection, and adult self-healing. You can find Lael at https://laelstone.com.au/, on IG @laelstone Laels Offerings The Journey - 8 month Mentorship with Lael Stone. This is all about going deeper within to explore your imprints, stories, and blocks, so you can step towards living your best life. It is for professional and personal development. Starts Feb 2026 https://laelstone.com.au/mentorship/ Thriving as Parents and Partners Webinar. This live webinar is happening on 26th November but will be available to purchase after. In it we will guide you from overwhelm to understanding, from conflict to connection, and from going it alone to building your family team. Perfect for couples who are in the thick of parenting and are needing some guidance and support and tools to explore. https://laelstone.com.au/event/thriving-as-parents-and-partners-online-november-2025/ Own Your Story - my new book. Understanding your past to create your future. Looks at our Imprints and beliefs and patterns to help us live a more authentic life. Available all major book stores and on Audible. Music License: MB01CAF4HLQCLBZ This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
Beyond Gentle Parenting: What Actually Works with Lael Stone 18.11.2025 58dkIn this soulful and deeply insightful episode, Keshia sits down once again with parenting educator, speaker, author, and emotional awareness advocate Lael Stone. With her signature calm wisdom, Lael explores how we, as parents, can navigate our children's emotional worlds without falling into perfectionism or panic about “getting it all right.” Together, they unravel complex layers around trauma, resilience, sibling rivalry, boundaries, attachment styles, and emotional literacy, equipping parents with genuinely usable insight for family life. About Lael Lael is a renowned parenting educator, emotional-awareness expert, childbirth doula, and author of two books, including her latest Own Your Story. She is also the co-creator of Woodland Primary, a play-based and emotionally intelligent school on a Victorian farm. As a mother of three adult children, Lael’s work spans education, parenting, trauma-informed connection, and adult self-healing. You can find Lael at https://laelstone.com.au/, on IG @laelstone Laels Offerings The Journey - 8 month Mentorship with Lael Stone. This is all about going deeper within to explore your imprints, stories, and blocks, so you can step towards living your best life. It is for professional and personal development. Starts Feb 2026 https://laelstone.com.au/mentorship/ Thriving as Parents and Partners Webinar. This live webinar is happening on 26th November but will be available to purchase after. In it we will guide you from overwhelm to understanding, from conflict to connection, and from going it alone to building your family team. Perfect for couples who are in the thick of parenting and are needing some guidance and support and tools to explore. https://laelstone.com.au/event/thriving-as-parents-and-partners-online-november-2025/ Own Your Story - my new book. Understanding your past to create your future. Looks at our Imprints and beliefs and patterns to help us live a more authentic life. Available all major book stores and on Audible. Music License: MB01CAF4HLQCLBZ This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
What If Menopause Is Our Second Spring? with Jane Harwicke Collings 11.11.2025 1sa 28dkIn this deeply nourishing episode of Return to Wisdom, Keshia sits down with Jane Hardwicke Collings: midwife, teacher, author, and founder of the School of Shamanic Womancraft, to explore the sacred transitions that define womanhood. Jane shares insights from her decades of experience guiding women through rites of passage, from menarche to menopause, and how reclaiming these cycles reconnects us to nature, our bodies, and each other. Together, they reframe menopause not as a decline, but as a “Sage Essence” a powerful transformation into wisdom and leadership. Jane and Keshia discuss how our birth experiences prepare us for menopause, why the medicalization of the feminine has stripped away power, and how to heal the wounded sisterhood by dismantling the patriarchy within ourselves. The conversation also touches on: The Four Seasons Journey, Jane’s year-long program and her final offering in this form. The parallels between puberty, motherhood, and menopause as transformative rites of passage. The Grandmother Hypothesis: why women live beyond fertility and the vital role of post-menopausal leadership. The spiritual and physiological gifts of menopause, from clarity of mind to stronger immunity and renewed sexual vitality. How aging is a privilege and why it’s time to reject the obsession with youth. This episode is a masterclass in feminine wisdom: grounding ancient truths in a modern world that has forgotten them. Jane Hardwicke Collings🌐 janehardwickecollings.com📚 SchoolofShamanicWomancraft.com Programs & Courses The Four Seasons Journey – Jane’s year-long women’s mystery immersion (final in-person round begins February 2026, applications close November 20). Earth Woman – An online version of The Four Seasons Journey (self-paced or guided). One-Day Workshops (Mullumbimby) Moonsong – Remembering the wisdom of the cycles Shamanic Dimensions of Pregnancy – Exploring birth as a rite of passage Autumn Woman, Harvest Queen – Understanding menopause in context Winter Woman, Bone Wisdom – Embracing the Crone years Snake Medicine: Shedding Menstrual Shame – An online course. Additional online courses on pregnancy, menopause, and the women’s mysteries are available on her website. Books Her Story Sage Essence – Jane’s forthcoming book on menopause. Ten Moons App📱 Spinning Wheels App – A holistic menstrual and menopause cycle tracking app (available via app stores). Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
The Invisible Ingredient: Uncovering the Truth About Glyphosate with Blair Beattie 04.11.2025 1sa 13dkIn this powerful and eye-opening conversation, Keshia sits down with Blair Beattie, Director of Farmers Footprint Australia, to uncover the hidden reality of glyphosate: the world’s most widely used chemical, and its impact on our food, health, and environment. From the origins of Roundup to the ripple effects it has on our soil, water, and bodies, this episode explores how chemical farming has disconnected us from nature and how regenerative agriculture and conscious food choices can bring us back into harmony with the planet. A bit about The Invisible Ingredient: The Invisible Ingredient is a richly human conversation that examines the world’s most widely used pesticide and traces how glyphosate became woven through modern food and land care. From science to storytelling, from activism to alternatives, this is where truth meets transformation. Guided by host Blair Beattie of Farmer’s Footprint, the series brings together widely respected voices including farmers, scientists, lawyers, journalists, doctors, and youth, whose work is trusted by communities and grounded in evidence. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube, with sources and further learning at theinvisibleingredient.org. This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
Sex Work, ‘Gender Identity,’ and Free Speech: A Conversation with Meghan Murphy 28.10.2025 1sa 20dkIn episode 14 of Return to Wisdom Podcast, Meghan Murphy discusses her experiences with cancel culture, the evolution of feminism, and the complexities surrounding gender identity and women's rights. The dialogue explores the impact of the Me Too movement, the realities of sex work, and the importance of free speech in modern society. Meghan emphasizes the need for critical thinking and respectful discourse in addressing contentious issues, while reflecting on her journey as a controversial figure in feminist discussions. You can find Meghan at: https://www.meghanmurphy.ca/ https://open.spotify.com/show/10eu7VIEAHcSAslhmtdsmQ https://www.youtube.com/@meghanemilymurphy https://x.com/MeghanEMurphy https://www.instagram.com/meghanemilymurphy/ This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
Can We Hold Nuance in the Feminine Conversation? With A Woman Refined: Lauren Renee 21.10.2025 1sa 30dkjourney of questioning vaccine safety, and the impact of social media on public health discourse. Lauren shares her personal health experiences that led her to question vaccines and delve into natural health practices. The conversation also touches on the complexities of indigenous wisdom and the role of propaganda in shaping public perceptions. Ultimately, they emphasise the need for informed decision-making and personal responsibility in health choices. You can find Lauren at: @a_woman_refined on IG @awomanrefined on substack and all podcast streaming platforms: A Woman Refined This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
Is Modern Light Exposure Making Us Infertile? with Kiera Lea 14.10.2025 1sa 15dkIn episode 12 of Return to Wisdom, Keshia welcomes Kiera Lea back to unpack how light, environment, stress and mindset influence women’s health and fertility. Together they explore circadian/quantum biology, melatonin’s role in pregnancy and labor, red vs blue light in IVF settings, the social drivers behind falling birth rates, and how chronic stress and insulin resistance feed conditions like PCOS. They finish with practical, low-cost habits to restore rhythms and a note on Kiera Lea’s Quantum Health Academy. Where to find Kiera Lea: https://kieraleawellness.com.au/kiera-lea/ Substack: The Health Issue Instagram/X: @kieraleawellness Podcast: The Health Standard Program: Quantum Health Academy (for clinicians/health pros) This episode is sponsored by Great Spirit Great Spirit creates powerful organic health products rooted in nature, with a greater vision to help curb the mental health epidemic through nature-based programs and retreats. Use code KESHIA20 for 20% off your first order. 👉 www.greatspirit.com.au This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
From Surrogacy to Sperm Banks: Children’s Rights in Third-Party Reproduction with Kallie Fell 23.09.2025 1sa 11dkIn episode 11 of Return to Wisdom, Keshia and Kallie Fell dive into the ethical complexities of modern reproductive technologies. They unpack the realities of donor conception, examining the ethical questions around egg and sperm donation, as well as the potential risks tied to these practices. The conversation also explores how AI is shaping reproductive medicine, the societal consequences of commercializing reproduction, and why intimacy in conception still matters. Together, they highlight the psychological impact on donor-conceived individuals and raise powerful questions about the future of reproductive health and bioethics. You can find Kallie on X @kal_fell and YouTube https://youtube.com/@cbc-networkorg?si=J9iKjoG935cDVIu4 CBC can be found on IG @thecbcnetwork This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day! -
The Cost of Chasing Youth: A Case for Growing Up with Kimberly Ann Johnson 16.09.2025 1sa 28dkIn Episode 10 of Return to Wisdom, Keshia sits down with Kimberly Ann Johnson; author, somatic guide, and women’s health advocate, to unpack aging, perimenopause, motherhood, and the cultural scripts that shape how women see their bodies. Kimberly challenges the youth-obsessed narrative and the pathologizing of every hormonal fluctuation, arguing for a season-based, community-rooted approach to women’s health. They explore the “mother rage” discourse, why village support (not quick pharmaceutical fixes) is the real antidote, and how menopause can usher in steadier hormones, clearer boundaries, and elder responsibility. The conversation ranges from repairing family ties and rebuilding intergenerational care, to limits in parenting, and the social costs of Botox/fillers on expression and connection. Expect a forthright, compassionate reframing of aging, from something to resist into something to live into. You can find Kimberly: https://kimberlyannjohnson.com and @Kimberly.ann.johnson on IGKimberly’s books: The Fourth Trimester and Call of the Wild Trainings/workshops: “Mothering the Bones,” Jaguar work. This Episode is Sponsored by Pod Byron Pod Byron, Byron Bay’s premium video podcast studio, crafted for creators, coaches, and personal brands ready to elevate their presence. 👉 www.podbyron.com Thank you for joining me in this little corner of the podcasting world. If you would like to support the show, please head to the show page and subscribe, rate and leave a review. This is a little way you can give back to the show and help me to secure bigger and better guests for the conversations you crave. Have a wonderful day!
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