The Poetry Magazine Podcast

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  Wake, Butterfly: What Else Is True? with Marie Howe 26.05.2026 15dk

  In the final episode of season 2, Marie Howe invites listeners to find what’s praisable.
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  Wake, Butterfly: Exorcise the Grief with Dawn Lundy Martin 19.05.2026 9dk

  Dawn Lundy Martin invites listeners to notice where the grief resides, then let it go.
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  Wake, Butterfly: Find the Water with Manny Loley 12.05.2026 13dk

  Manny Loley invites listeners to make an offering.
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  Wake, Butterfly: Here Is What I Did with My Body with Maggie Nelson 05.05.2026 11dk

  Maggie Nelson invites listeners to productively disassociate.
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  Wake, Butterfly: Black Swallowtail with Nick Makoha 28.04.2026 8dk

  Nick Makoha invites listeners to build a cocoon, then break free.
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  Wake, Butterfly: You Are Living in a Poem with Naomi Shihab Nye 21.04.2026 16dk

  In the first episode of season 2, Naomi Shihab Nye invites readers to develop a ritual.
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  Wake, Butterfly: Meditation (Arrival) with Saretta Morgan & Bo Hwang 21.07.2025 12dk

  In the sixth and final episode of this season, Saretta Morgan and Bo Hwang invite listeners to create a guided meditation that allows for arrival.
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  Wake, Butterfly: Game with Amelia Bande 14.07.2025 13dk

  Amelia Bande invites listeners to play a game
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  Wake, Butterfly: Protest (& Antidote) with Pamela Sneed 07.07.2025 13dk

  In the fourth episode, Pamela Sneed invites listeners to create a protest poem and an antidote._____Matsuo Bashō wrote:Wake, butterfly—it’s late, we’ve milesto go together.Poetry magazine presents Wake, Butterfly, a series of intimate portraits that invite listeners to keep creating. The series is produced by Rachel James with sound design by Axel Kacoutié._____Here’s an edited version of Sneed’s prompt:Create a protest poem. It can be based on something that you’ve heard in the news or something that’s really been bothering you in the past few weeks, and you can tie it into a current event. For an added twist, add in an action at the end or something that you think people should or can do to remedy the situation.
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  Wake, Butterfly: Plant with Mei-mei Berssenbrugge 30.06.2025 14dk

  In the third episode, Mei-mei Berssenbrugge invites listeners to observe a plant and receive its messages.
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  Wake, Butterfly: Beyond (So What) with Edward Salem 23.06.2025 13dk

  In the second episode, Edward Salem invites listeners to find what’s beyond “so what.”
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  Wake, Butterfly: Orb Weaver with Gabrielle Calvocoressi 16.06.2025 12dk

  In the first episode, Gabrielle Calvocoressi invites listeners to make a web.
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  Kiki Petrosino and Cindy Juyoung Ok on Crestfallenness, Cookbooks, and More 24.10.2023 38dk

  This week, Cindy Juyoung Ok speaks with Kiki Petrosino, who has published five elegant and remarkable books, all with Sarabande, including the memoir Bright (2022) and the poetry collection White Blood: A Lyric of Virginia (2020). Petrosino speaks about crestfallenness and her new essay in the October issue of Poetry, “On Crestfallenness: A Pilgrim, Not a Tractor,” which appeared as part of the Hard Feelings series. She also talks about having her mother join her for her research, teaching across languages, and her love of cookbooks and the stories they tell. With thanks to Danelle Cadena Deulen for the clip of her reading Brigit Pegeen Kelly’s poem “Closing Time; Iskandariya” on the podcast Lit from the Basement. And to Sarabande Books, Inc. for permission to include Kiki Petrosino’s poem “Pergatorio” from Witch Wife (2020).
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  Kimiko Hahn and Cindy Juyoung Ok on Mentoring Your Younger Poet-Self and More 10.10.2023 56dk

  This week, Cindy Juyoung Ok speaks with Kimiko Hahn, who won the 2023 Ruth Lilly Poetry Prize from the Poetry Foundation, and who is featured in the October 2023 issue of Poetry. Hahn talks about how her work has changed over the years, including her current love of form, and how she’s been mentoring her younger self while putting together her forthcoming new and selected, The Ghost Forest (W.W. Norton). She also discusses being wrong about Elizabeth Bishop, not getting an MFA, and what it was like studying at the University of Iowa as an undergraduate while the graduate program was filled with now-canonical poets like Rita Dove, Jorie Graham, Tess Gallagher, and others. Hahn shares two of her incredible poems from the October issue with listeners.
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  Cathy Park Hong and Cindy Juyoung Ok on Shit Moms and More 26.09.2023 41dk

  This week, Cindy Juyong Ok talks with Cathy Park Hong, who has published three volumes of poetry and the collection of essays Minor Feelings: An Asian American Reckoning, which was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. Hong introduces us to a new selection from “Spring and All,” featured in the September 2023 issue of Poetry. She discusses how feeling like a “shit mom” during the early days of the pandemic has influenced her new writing, as did the work of other artists and writers who address “failing” at motherhood, like that of visual artist Tala Madani and her “Shit Moms” series.
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  Lena Khalaf Tuffaha and Cindy Juyoung Ok on the Renowned and Rebellious Palestinian Poet Zakaria Mohammed 12.09.2023 46dk

  On this week’s episode, Cindy Juyoung Ok speaks with poet, essayist, and translator Lena Khalaf Tuffaha about the life and work of the renowned Palestinian poet and writer Zakaria Mohammed. Born in Nablus, Palestine, Mohammed was a freelance journalist, editor, and poet who authored nine volumes of poetry. In 1994, after twenty-five years in exile, he returned to his homeland to live in Ramallah where he recently died at the age of seventy-three. Ok and Khalaf Tuffaha discuss Mohammed’s rebelliousness, his democratizing practice of posting early drafts of his poems to Facebook, and how he approached writing in the shadow of Mahmoud Darwish. They also talk about grief, the politics of translation, and the always tricky task of composing an email. Finally, Khalaf Tuffaha treats us to some of Mohammed’s poems in Arabic and English translation that appear in the September 2023 issue of Poetry.
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  Kevin Young and Cindy Juyoung Ok on All the Things Poetry Does 29.08.2023 1sa

  This week, Cindy Juyoung Ok speaks with Kevin Young, who has authored or edited over twenty books including the poetry collection Stones (Knopf, 2021) and the nonfiction investigation Bunk: The Rise of Hoaxes, Humbug, Plagiarists, Phonies, Post-Facts, and Fake News (Graywolf Press, 2017). In addition to directing the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture, Young is also the poetry editor at the New Yorker, so perhaps it’s not surprising that the conversation today focuses on all that poetry does. As Young says: “It does the most important things … It’s waiting for you.” We’ll also hear two new gorgeous poems by Young from the July/August 2023 issue of Poetry: “The Stair” (4:20) and “Diptych” (38:06).
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  Richie Hofmann and Cindy Juyoung Ok on Erotic Turmoil and More 15.08.2023 52dk

  This week, Cindy Juyoung Ok talks with Richie Hofmann, whose latest book is A Hundred Lovers (Knopf, 2022), about the ancient tale of Hermias of Iasos which informs Hofmann’s poem “Dolphin.” The poem appears in the July/August issue of Poetry alongside “Breed Me,” and we’ll hear both on today’s episode. Hofmann and Ok reveal they are both “Cavafy heads,” and Hofmann discusses the influence of Robert Mapplethorpe on his poems, as well as why lineation is one of the “erotic touchstones” of poetry.
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  torrin a. greathouse and Cindy Juyoung Ok on Form as Open-Source Software and Being Loud on the Page 01.08.2023 55dk

  This week, Cindy Juyoung Ok talks with torrin a. greathouse, a transgender cripple-punk poet and essayist who is the author of the forthcoming DEED (Wesleyan University Press), as well as Wound from the Mouth of a Wound (Milkweed Editions, 2020). Ok and greathouse get into poetic forms—which they liken to open-source software—particularly the beloved “burning haibun” form that greathouse created and that she wrote about for Poetry’s “Not Too Hard to Master” series. The essay appears in the July/August issue of Poetry alongside their Springsteen-inspired burning haibun, “Dancing in the Dark,” which greathouse reads on the podcast. They also interrogate the anti-trans rhetoric and language of radical white feminist poets, and greathouse reads “There’s No Trace of the Word ‘Transgender’ in Adrienne Rich’s Biography,” which previously appeared in Poetry. 
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  Douglas Kearney and Cindy Juyoung Ok on Scrabble, Spite, and “Dintelligibility” 18.07.2023 59dk

  This week, Cindy Juyoung Ok speaks with Douglas Kearney, who joins from Saint Paul, Minnesota. Kearney is the author of eight books of poetry, prose, and libretti, and his poems are often highly distinctive both on and off the page. Today’s conversation begins with spite and Scrabble, which Kearney writes about in his new essay in the July/August issue of Poetry, a continuation of the “Hard Feelings” series. They also talk about the changing topographies in Kearney’s work, the “dintelligibility” of his new poems, and the vital importance of discomfort. Thanks to Douglas Kearney and Wave Books for permission to include Kearney’s reading of “Sand Fire (or The Pool, 2016)” from his book Sho, and to Fonograf Editions for permission to include clips from Douglas Kearney and Val Jeanty’s Fodder.